Tokyo

[Rick Rock]

Couple years back local Tokyo guys took me on the Red Bus Tour for Kabukicho by night. Bright red bus picked up at a rotary a couple blocks from the Tokyo Hilton.

It took us through a couple shows, traditional with girls in Kimonos, contemporary with music and dances, also a strip show where girls would dance and expose their boobs for tips. At the end they took us to a restaurant for AYCE AYCD Japanese food, all for $100 then. It was a fun tour, good value for Tokyo. We had so much fun.

Wingmen and I will be going at the end of the year. Would be very nice to find similar tours again.

Any bro know of any such tours, or where to search?

I have no idea.

You could just go directly to the strip show yourself. There's a very famous one in Shibuya and they are friendly to foreigners:

https://dotonbori.co.jp/en/

[Rick Rock]

Milftokyo. There menu seems extensive. Is bb an option not on the menu or discouraged? I know ymmv.

Never tried "MILF Tokyo. " I did have good experiences at Tokyo Sexy MILF and it seems like girls are pretty "open" there. Especially for tips. https://milftokyo.com/.

[Rick Rock]

I was invited to go with some friends to Japan soon. Have been looking into the adult entertainment in Tokyo and Osaka. What does TAE and YMMV.

TAE = Tokyo Amateur Escort. Read through this forum, you'll find many reviews of the place. Here's their website: https://amateurtokyo.com/.

YMMV = Your mileage may vary. It's a common expression that means your experience might be different from what another person experienced. This explains it: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/...y/english/ymmv.

[BrainnSteww]

1 - It would be good to know, many guys love MILFs. It's not for me, so I have no info for you. I had no trouble with other shops delivering their "theme".

2 - Soapland. it's possible to try, but I would assume the success rate is low or else mentioned somewhere as friendly.

3 - Oppai pubs. It's not for most guys, maybe just a novelty. The only reason I list so much info is that's where I spend most of my time. I've gone Japan 20 times and been to oppai pubs hundreds of times. However, I only did DH my last trip. The reason simply being I can get FS very easily in the US including with occasional jgirls. If you don't mind waiting months and months, a good jgirl eventually shows up. If you go to Japan, there are too many choices. But in the US, they do not have oppai pubs and that's what I actually want. It's my main target.

4 - I used TAE the most. You will not see bb advertised because you won't see FS advertised. Some do, some don't it is truly YMMV. If you must have bb or else be disappointed, I wouldn't even go. Or, research something that isn't often listed even in reviews.

If you strongly prefer jgirls, go Japan. Otherwise, go Thailand. I have had Thai girls before and they are good. I don't want them though, I want only jgirls. I'll happily pay more for it. Every other girl is a substitute. I'll copy two advices I've given:

Going to Japan is for people who love Japan for other things too. I like the women, I like the food, I like sightseeing, I like shopping and walking around. But just for the women only, it's not worth it. Combining multiple goals makes for a very pleasant vacation.

A friend from Japan taught me everything and I realized something about Fear Of Missing Out (FOMO). He told me if I stayed in a station like Shinjuku and ate every single restaurant there 3 meals a day, by the end there would be more new restaurants I didn't eat at than the ones I already ate at (more than 3 new restaurants open every day). Let me say, the same thing is true of jgirls in Japan. Unlimited supply. We will never see every hot girl. Don't care about that.

I was invited to go with some friends to Japan soon. Have been looking into the adult entertainment in Tokyo and Osaka. What does TAE and YMMV.

[Traveler X]

Trying to go through the library of info before I make final plans to Tokyo.

1. Milftokyo. There menu seems extensive. Is bb an option not on the menu or discouraged? I know ymmv.

2. Soaplands. I see most foreign friendly places are in yoshiwara but is it a try and enter in others acceptable for foreigners. Is bb okay to ask or discouraged?

3. Oppa clubs. Definitely interested but not sure if I'm into teasing myself that badly.

4. Gingira- same as above for the health services on the bb requests.

I'm from the states where the options are more marked clearly. I'm debating whether to monger in Tokyo or to Thailand which has been my go to. Appreciate the feedback where I want to be respectful but also understand that Tokyo may not be the best option for me.

1 - It would be good to know, many guys love MILFs. It's not for me, so I have no info for you. I had no trouble with other shops delivering their "theme".

2 - Soapland. it's possible to try, but I would assume the success rate is low or else mentioned somewhere as friendly.

3 - Oppai pubs. It's not for most guys, maybe just a novelty. The only reason I list so much info is that's where I spend most of my time. I've gone Japan 20 times and been to oppai pubs hundreds of times. However, I only did DH my last trip. The reason simply being I can get FS very easily in the US including with occasional jgirls. If you don't mind waiting months and months, a good jgirl eventually shows up. If you go to Japan, there are too many choices. But in the US, they do not have oppai pubs and that's what I actually want. It's my main target.

4 - I used TAE the most. You will not see bb advertised because you won't see FS advertised. Some do, some don't it is truly YMMV. If you must have bb or else be disappointed, I wouldn't even go. Or, research something that isn't often listed even in reviews.

If you strongly prefer jgirls, go Japan. Otherwise, go Thailand. I have had Thai girls before and they are good. I don't want them though, I want only jgirls. I'll happily pay more for it. Every other girl is a substitute. I'll copy two advices I've given:

Going to Japan is for people who love Japan for other things too. I like the women, I like the food, I like sightseeing, I like shopping and walking around. But just for the women only, it's not worth it. Combining multiple goals makes for a very pleasant vacation.

A friend from Japan taught me everything and I realized something about Fear Of Missing Out (FOMO). He told me if I stayed in a station like Shinjuku and ate every single restaurant there 3 meals a day, by the end there would be more new restaurants I didn't eat at than the ones I already ate at (more than 3 new restaurants open every day). Let me say, the same thing is true of jgirls in Japan. Unlimited supply. We will never see every hot girl. Don't care about that.

[Rick Rock]

The new girl "Hikari" at Tokyo Style Massage comes highly recommended.

https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/p...php?cid=Hikari

All natural beauty, silky black hair, wonderfully soft tits.

Maybe because she's new and innocent, but she offers a true GFE in bed once the service starts.

Her bareback blowjob is top rate.

[Captain Solo]

Couple years back local Tokyo guys took me on the Red Bus Tour for Kabukicho by night. Bright red bus picked up at a rotary a couple blocks from the Tokyo Hilton.

It took us through a couple shows, traditional with girls in Kimonos, contemporary with music and dances, also a strip show where girls would dance and expose their boobs for tips. At the end they took us to a restaurant for AYCE AYCD Japanese food, all for $100 then. It was a fun tour, good value for Tokyo. We had so much fun.

Wingmen and I will be going at the end of the year. Would be very nice to find similar tours again.

Any bro know of any such tours, or where to search?

[Seeksc56]

I will be in Tokyo this fall. I plan on enjoying the Japanese women, particularly MILFs. But I would also like to experience a Chinese in Japan. Any suggestion?

[NovaThings]

Trying to go through the library of info before I make final plans to Tokyo.

1. Milftokyo. There menu seems extensive. Is bb an option not on the menu or discouraged? I know ymmv.

2. Soaplands. I see most foreign friendly places are in yoshiwara but is it a try and enter in others acceptable for foreigners. Is bb okay to ask or discouraged?

3. Oppa clubs. Definitely interested but not sure if I'm into teasing myself that badly.

4. Gingira- same as above for the health services on the bb requests.

I'm from the states where the options are more marked clearly. I'm debating whether to monger in Tokyo or to Thailand which has been my go to. Appreciate the feedback where I want to be respectful but also understand that Tokyo may not be the best option for me.

[FingerLicking]

Hi Guys. Visiting Tokyo and Osaka for 9 days. Need help with some good and genuine escorts or indipendant. I'm from India and will be happy to help here if needed. Thanks in advance.

[Traveler X]

I've dated working girls in both Japan and Thailand, but I also live in Japan for almost 20 years and speak fluent Japanese. It is really rare to date working girls in Japan, unlike Thailand, where it is common. Most J-girls will give you their LINE ID, but they still expect you to just contact them to make appointments. The few girls who I have actually dated in the many years that I lived here were just staring out, or were looking for a way out and were hoping it would be me. (It wasn't me. I would never take a working girls seriously.) if you don't speak Japanese and sleep with normal Japanese girls regularly, then it will be very difficulty to pull off dating a working girl on a trip.

I would stick with Thailand for that. I go there twice a year and I'm always able to find 18-20 yo girls who are just starting out and want a regular BF experience.

This is very good advice, in Thailand it's normalized so it is straightforward. In Japan, you can't get the same level of expectations even if you explained it. Definitely the newer girls are more open, it's almost the same thing with kgirls in the US. Once a girl is established and has multiple regulars she is not going to want to pick you because it means abandoning her other regulars / source of income. The work changes girls too.

At hostess clubs, girls pick who they date or sleep with (if any). They're allowed to, but they say no to many guys. This interview covers one girls' approach:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1xwLUjk1uI Hostess interview

I know this should be obvious to all mongers but can you expound on this?

Not going to lie, once you find a favorite and book her many times you starting thinking along the lines of this. Especially if its you have great chemistry and its your main access to regular intimacy. Would appreciate a reality check on why this is a bad idea (not specific to Japan per se, but in general for the hobby).

Nearly every one of us has imagined this at some point before being faced with the reality that it is a bad idea. It's why I give the warning on expectations.

The veteran girls always have some angle if they see something in you, and usually it is profit. The best we can do is confirm it's mutually beneficial. In Japan, sometimes "just dinner" right before the club works out because if you are going to repeat a girl anyways it is one way for the girl to maintain the relationship.

One girl told me dohan before shop was 3000 yen ($21) which is basically nothing. She did not ask me for anything, I bought her dinner and a present. We had wholesome normal fun as a date. I would not have had this fun with 90% of girls I met - don't pick a girl just on looks or that is all you'll get. This dohan service is common at certain types of shops but it is completely up to the girl who she'll do it with.

Of working girls, I wouldn't trust most of them. Japanese girls are smarter than they look, meaning they will play dumb and make you happy at first. They only show you their good side. This is especially more true of Japanese women than other women. If they consider you a worthy target then it is all smiles until they seal the deal. Yes there are exceptions but if you don't speak Japanese and haven't dated some Japanese women already you wouldn't know.

Why not just have fun many times and then say goodbye the moment you aren't feeling it anymore. Especially with DH, the girls don't care that you play with other girls. By default they are happy just if you repeat them again. At any day or any moment you can switch to another girl for fun. You don't have to explain or justify yourself to anyone.

You can even train yourself up a little and go for civilian women. I used to go strip clubs all the time and chat with the girls before getting dances. Sometimes 10 to 30 minutes. I got much better talking with women as a result, and it helped my dating life after that even with Japanese women. But strip clubs are pretty cheap as long as you learn to say no. Learn to say no to women. Or they'll walk all over you.

Thinking about a real relationship or real romance is taking it too far. It often leads to you thinking it's real while she knows it isn't. Or when it is true, it is still a dead end. Be a butterfly floating from flower to flower.

[BlackEngine44]

Many many friends who went to Japan will joke that they want to marry a specific working jgirl. No! See her 100 times for less.

I know this should be obvious to all mongers but can you expound on this?

Not going to lie, once you find a favorite and book her many times you starting thinking along the lines of this. Especially if its you have great chemistry and its your main access to regular intimacy. Would appreciate a reality check on why this is a bad idea (not specific to Japan per se, but in general for the hobby).

[Xslikx]

Hi all. Just started this adventure in Thailand and looking to come to Tokyo. My big thing is finding the right girl and then normally I am able to get their info by line and I've seen girls outside of their work. I know it's not genuine but to me I like the company and a personal tour guide. Just curious if that's the same opportunity here because Japanese girls are more my "type", in Bangkok. Too much plastic surgery. Deciding if I'm coming to Japan or Thailand next vacation. Thank you for your feedback in advance.

I've dated working girls in both Japan and Thailand, but I also live in Japan for almost 20 years and speak fluent Japanese. It is really rare to date working girls in Japan, unlike Thailand, where it is common. Most J-girls will give you their LINE ID, but they still expect you to just contact them to make appointments. The few girls who I have actually dated in the many years that I lived here were just staring out, or were looking for a way out and were hoping it would be me. (It wasn't me. I would never take a working girls seriously.) if you don't speak Japanese and sleep with normal Japanese girls regularly, then it will be very difficulty to pull off dating a working girl on a trip.

I would stick with Thailand for that. I go there twice a year and I'm always able to find 18-20 yo girls who are just starting out and want a regular BF experience.

[Traveler X]

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3011458 Updated Shibuya Galaxy Guide

Next visit, I will try Nukunuku and other similar shops to compare. In a follow-up to the updated Shibuya Galaxy guide and new oppai pub tips, here are some additional stories and commentary:

I go Japan often for fun and it is wild when I go to an oppai pub full of young girls, then this 25 year old girl HYA hops on my lap and apologizes for being so old. I forgave her.

Two girls did this, one was 24 and the other 25. They told me their age and apologized for being too old for the club. Both were Leicester girls, where they have stricter standards. You would not get that level of humility at the 4th or 5th ranked pubs.

Some more Shibuya Galaxy girls reviews:

Kanon (A+ Tier)
So next I pick the very tall skinny girl Kanon. She has quite a nice face. Its a bit round and oval, a mix of cute and beautiful. During her show she would play with her saliva in her mouth, that was hot and new to me. She looked at me while doing it. For her I asked for bunny headband and microbikini. I thought she would go the naughty bitc h route, but when she got in front of me she was quite innocent and inexperienced. The opposite personality of Shiori who only looked innocent but was naughtier than a kgirl MILF.

Kanon was willing to do everything for me, it made me blush. I ordered her with the tback outfit but she had trouble wearing it, apparently it's her first time with it. With Kanon, I forgot to ask for socks off (500 yen). Make sure to do that, unless you're weird and don't like feet.

There is tissue available in case you cum. This is Japan, jerking off in front of a HYA is perfectly normal and common sense. Be polite and show your support.

Nono (A+ Tier)
Nono is the only tanned girl and she is so cute, reminds me a bit of a sexier Takashi Ai. As I say, some of these girls are simply better looking than many idols. Nono was 2nd most popular, so I never got her show 'officially' due to how often she was booked. She actually did a show for the guy right next to me but her curtain was loose, so if I put my face up to the glass like a pervert I can peek and see it! Of course I did.

She was on her back on the ground, legs fully spread, rubbing her pussy for him. I can't see the pussy itself due to her legs blocking but it's really clear and obvious. She also stroking her beautiful body just the way I liked, I can see all of that at least. I can't wait to be next! So I used the ipad to select her and added on a bikini and hit send. But the staff came over and told me Nono is off, then manually cancelled my order. Nono finished her shift exactly as I sent my order, I even saw her get up and leave after her show.

But I did get to see her show indirectly at least. It's a different kind of naughty as a free bonus. You can window peep at a cute naked girl maturbating without her knowing - like a pervert. Do not try this anywhere else in Japan.

This sums up my experience at Shibuya Galaxy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=993nvsfwvnY&t=267s Window love

Takoyaki (B Tier)
The other A+ girl had just ended her shift, so I chose Takoyaki. She is a cuter version of a girl I knew, so I take the win. Of course with her show I could see everything naked, anus and pussy and all in full bright lighting. She also had a tampon in her pussy! Not my thing normally, but I appreciate the authenticity. She is cute so I'll allow it. Her show was good, but she had no expression on her face unlike the other two girls. This was her only minus. She is cute so I forgive her. The world is cruel to less attractive women.

Shiori was cute and naughty appeal, Kanon was blushing and shy. Takoyaki was blase. With all three girls, the doggy pose facing away from me never gets old. They will get super up close and you forget there's glass.

Other comments, Oppai pubs and dohan option
I know some guys don't like strip clubs or oppai pubs because they don't like blue balls. I must be lucky because I might go 3pm Shibuya Galaxy, 5pm Hosekinobako, light dinner, 7pm Leicester, 9pm Club Sexy, then DH.

BTW I would avoid most restaurants in Kabukicho since so many are 'tourist level' standard or 'drunk and I don't care' standard. You pay for the vibe more than the food. So instead I take a quick light dinner at the 'least bad' option such as the convenience store or even fast food. That way I can control the time and make it to Leicester exactly 6:59pm.

Most of Tokyo has cheap and awesome food. I had a lot of luck in Shibuya randomly trying places, probably because they cater to locals more.

I have not repeated Club Sexy enough, and while it was always really good I think it was just luck. I say that because I looked around the club and I had the hottest girl, S-Tier. My second visit the shop wasn't busy, so the staff actually asked me if I had a type preference for my girl. He asked me reverently on one knee. I said three words "Young, skinny, cute". They summoned her and she was. I've often thought that I live in the wrong country, but truth be told most locals in Japan don't make enough money to lick their own womens' tits.

By the way, I'm not making up the on one knee thing. At a few places, female staff will take your order on both knees. Not every place, more often higher end formal places. You get used to it and stop noticing:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mC8qLDUR1YQ Omotenashi

At most oppai pubs, the seating is open enough you can see multiple other girls to judge how hot the girls are. So I can scan up to 15 Hosekinobako girls, even when I got only 3 girls delivered. I've lost count but I've probably gone Hosekinobako over 20 times across repeat trips. One girl accused me of coming every day but I protested that I did not come yesterday.

I had several oppai pub girls ask me out. But it was clearly tit for tat, such as I had to extend them several hours. That's a no go for me. I didn't realize until days later that you can sometimes negotiate better terms by playing hardball. None of the girls that asked me was hot enough, but I did ask one S-Tier girl. She agreed if I kept her two more hours until closing. In honesty I explained that I had important plans the next day so needed the sleep. I didn't elaborate, but I was going to meet a top JAV star for lunch. Otherwise, I probably would have.

As it turns out, later in the week she messaged me that I could also meet her right before the club opened. Same discounted reveal as the Bribs maneuver. Unfortunately when she offered that, I had already booked Nanase that night. So she had been blocked by two other S-Tier girls in succession. I told her no, but she later messaged me again to make sure I still wasn't interested - right as I was getting butt naked with an S-Tier girl in my hotel room ready to shower me. By the way, there is definitely something nicer about showering with a girl in your own hotel room, than at an incall. It never gets old.

Many have mentioned this, but APA hotels are a solid value for solo travel.

The Three Nos
About avoiding GPS, I will now close with what I call "The three Nos" of Japan:

Many many friends who went to Japan will joke that they want to marry a specific working jgirl. No! See her 100 times for less.

Some friends say they will ask for 'custom booking' of a top JAV girl, but they get quoted some ridiculous inflated sum. No! See a better girl for less.

Some friends say an ATF oppai pub girl will ask them for champagne on their 2nd or 3rd visit with sudden GPS. No! Lick her rival's tits.

[SubCmdr]

Are you inferring that you want to take an agency girl out off the clock, unpaid?

Bro said he was in Thailand!

You really think he is convincing girls that are getting paid enormous amounts of money relative to the regular working population to be prostitutes to leave their work and hang out with him for free? In Thailand it is called a vacation girlfriend. The only way to know if a girl in Thailand actually likes you?

They give you stuff!