Angeles City

[A Traveler]

First trip back in six months. Hellish 14 hour flight from Chicago was delayed, so Cathay Pacific put us all up in HK. But the Genesis Bus from NAIA Terminal 3 is easy peasy.

Got into town around five on Saturday night and cleaned up and unpacked. Staying in a One Euphoria Airbnb, which is always a nice place and only a two minute walk to the bars. Went out at 7 pm. Walking Street was packed on Saturday night. Kokomo's was full, so I had a mediocre dinner at Gossip.

Q Bar was great last year, packed with cuties, so it was my first stop. Not as many girls last night, but some were young and cute. Three young cuties sat right next to me, they must have only been 18. They promptly got out their phones and played games. There was nothing stopping me from chatting with the girl sitting next to me, but I wasn't feeling charismatic due to the jet lag. But I asked her her name and what she was playing. It was Call of Duty. There's a few barfinable girls here, but I headed out.

Next stop was Champaign, which is usually a fun bar. It's an old-school place where the girls "dance" and if you sit at the stage they might look at you and smile. I saw one I liked and called her down. She was 31, which seems ancient for a bargirl, but very attractive. She said she had taken years off of working here during covid. She was friendly and chatty in the bar. After one drink I paid the exorbitant 5,000 barfine.

Outside the bar she got more professional, but that's fine. I have to remember not to pussy foot around with these girls as if I'm on a date. Offer to feed them, then take her straight home for the action. No need to waste time and money taking a bargirl "barhopping."

The service was good and she had a hot body, despite having a nine year old and being 31. She wanted a condom but it was pretty easy to get her to agree to going without (I'm taking tenofir and doxy daily to try to reduce the odds of catching something).

After the deed was done she was straight out the door. I'm not sure how I feel about that. My jetlag was so bad I had to sleep, so I was happy to see her go. But 5,000 for short time sucks. I think forcing a girl who doesn't want to to stay would be counterproductive, because she would be in a bad mood and give poor service in the morning, so when they want to go I just let them go.

Based on the few hours I've been here, AC is expensive, but still fun.

[Goferring]

The question still there: How does some guys expect their girl to be faithful when she's still working in a bar where her primary function is suck and fuck? That's what I can't comprehend.

I'll take it one step further. Why do guys try to change the world or pretend that "my girl's different"? Just go in with eyes open and enjoy a hooker as a girlfriend. No pretending. No hiding. No tricky questions. Philipino guys do it all the time. Why do whities always try to convert a $50 hoe into Snow White?

Don't knock it until you try it. It was decades ago now but I had the best six months of my life dating a hoe. No judgement. Don't ask don't tell when we were apart. Just great times when I was back in town. It only ended bcs some idiot decided to be Dr SaveAhoe and marry her. I'm still pissed to this day. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

[Old And Ugly]

The question still there: How does some guys expect their girl to be faithful when she's still working in a bar where her primary function is suck and fuck? That's what I can't comprehend.

To BigCrusader: It's rare but not impossible to find an honest one in AC, ultimately most of them got there by necessity as a last resort, or were tricked into it, they didn't grow up dreaming of selling pussy to strangers.

Many years ago that was the only place where they could meet a foreigner, and maybe get married, because no westerner ever sat foot outside Manila or AC, and it happened to many of them. But the world was less trickier 20-30 years ago, the arrival of the internet brought more harm than good.

[PhilJoy]

Only you will know if the allowance you are sending her is worth the photos and calls that you are receiving while you are away. Having said that, I'll add some points to HappyKats list.

3/. Lots of guys find that being generous while in town but silent while away is very effective. Girls are happy to meet a generous guy in the flesh and say thanks while staying silent while away avoids all the hard luck stories and associated cash requests.

You do you but my policy has always been to tell girls that I'm happy to be generous while in town but I don't even reply to messages while I'm back home. It's never been an issue. I have peace at home and many girls available at short notice and reasonable cost when I return.

Good luck. G.

Absolutely agree G.

It's all here and now, and cash they generally blow on a new hair-do or manicure when you're in town, as opposed to looking after the sick buffalo in the province or the always sick kids.

I do keep in touch with a few keepers while I'm away, but they know I only reward cash in the flesh.

I only keep in touch with a few from afar, so I have one or two lined up from the moment I arrive and don't have to go on the hunt straight away.

I've lined up one previous Manila PL hottie for an impending trip to Cebu at the end of the month, but I'm having second thoughts.

I think I'll just play the game again when I arrive and see what happens.

Either way, I've got options and action basically guaranteed at approx. 3 k per day plus feeding her.

Life's fun. Play the game.

_Phil.

[PhilJoy]

While the explanations of the situation and possible outcomes are right, there still be a small chance that she's for real, nobody knows for sure. Just do whatever makes you happy, that's the important thing. In the end its all an illusion anyway, we're all playing roles in the big game called life. Just be careful.

Now looking at it from a different perspective:
Simply put: everybody fucks everybody.

Wonderful analysis and observation Ugly.

_Phil.

[BigCrusader]

Really appreciated all the feedback from all you experienced mongers here!

I guess I'll be more careful and take your warnings seriously, nevertheless I know how the game is played in Angeles. Everybody just fucks everybody and no true love out there.

In fact that was not my goal, just having a crazy time and I didn't fall in love. I don't sent her allowance or anything. I just think it's cool to extend the vibe by still watching her perform to all my instructions, money buys you everything in Angeles and I'll always pay after the service has been delivered.

While the explanations of the situation and possible outcomes are right, there still be a small chance that she's for real, nobody knows for sure. Just do whatever makes you happy, that's the important thing. In the end its all an illusion anyway, we're all playing roles in the big game called life. Just be careful.

Now looking at it from a different perspective:

I always been curious about the guys falling for a bar girl, and being serious about it. What do they expect her to do if she still work in a bar? Her job description is fucking and sucking strangers for money, so that's expected to happen on daily bases. If you take her out of there, forget her past and never, ever bring it up and provide a new life for her and her family (do not forget about them), only then you have the right to feel betrayed if she's having affairs and she's not loyal to you..

[Jarango]

Simply put: everybody fucks everybody.

Further to this, folk should check out the youtube channel of SoftWhiteUnderbelly, who interviews all the low life, mostly of California. Some, many, of the interviews are heart wrenching. They should also check out Joe Rogan interviewing him where SWB explains they cannot really be helped as there are layers of fundamental problems with them.

SWB travelled to Thailand but his interview technique did not work with the hookers there as it was a different vibe and a different set of cultural undertones. No gang bangers but issues he had not the least insight into.

Even check out the movie Casino, where the doll is married to "the life" and all the diamond necklaces won't change that. Sure there are diamonds in the rough but $5 massage parlours do not make great settings for Romeo and Juliet.

[Jarango]

Simply put: everybody fucks everybody.

This guy's post, sadly, generally hits the mark. These hookers have no education, are from poor backgrounds and hope to hit it big with Mr K Pop. That is their Pretty Woman dream. Remember that movie? Hookers loved it. They ain't going to meet no movie star in some third world clip joint and, if they show ther pussies to all and sundry, good luck with keeping her on the straight and narrow. Within the ex pat community in Angeles, the type who drink their pension money in the happy hour joints, their ladies check in on them to make sure they are not high talking with some other semi retired hooker.

These women are not bad but they are in a situation where bad is the norm.

Take the honest working women of Angeles who work for chump change. They want to meet Prince Charming too but all they get is perverts sending them dick pics and wanting to see their pussies in return. What is it about sending women dick pics? Check out pinalove and lots of them say: stop sending dick pics. Then of course there are the fraudsters who want you to jerk off online so they can blackmail you.

Marriage and all like it is social stratification. The rich marry the rich and their kids have the expectations of the rich, which does not include hooking up "til death do us part" ladies who rent their pussies by the hour.

[Old And Ugly]

Hi, I am new here and spent the entire month November in Angeles. Stayed in ABC Hotel and on my way to Red Street picked up a very hot gal in Soya Bar. LT and GFE and gave me such a naughty performance like never before with any other bargirl. Tipped her 5000 peso because it was so outstanding. Taking videos or photos, like you talked about here, is not allowed though in phillies so they are reluctant to do that so I did something risky and asked her to be my SB and she accepted. This is working out really fine as she is sending me the most naughty pics, toys, full face and all.

While the explanations of the situation and possible outcomes are right, there still be a small chance that she's for real, nobody knows for sure. Just do whatever makes you happy, that's the important thing. In the end its all an illusion anyway, we're all playing roles in the big game called life. Just be careful.

Now looking at it from a different perspective:

I always been curious about the guys falling for a bar girl, and being serious about it. What do they expect her to do if she still work in a bar? Her job description is fucking and sucking strangers for money, so that's expected to happen on daily bases. If you take her out of there, forget her past and never, ever bring it up and provide a new life for her and her family (do not forget about them), only then you have the right to feel betrayed if she's having affairs and she's not loyal to you.

From the girls perspective (if she has any reasoning capabilities), works the same way: How come that he's saying that he loves me, and all that, but knowing what I'm doing he's kind of abandoning me in the same situation and expects that I'll pull money out of thin air for me and my family, when he's rich beyond imagination, and only feeds me crumbs. But usually they don't think that far, and just do whatever they have to do in order to survive, secretly hoping that one day a Korean boyfriend K-Pop star looking like, will take them to the imaginary Disneyland called Korea where all people are young rich executives, and family dramas evolve around inheritances and not yet unveiled secret identities of millionaires disguised as beggars.

One things is for sure, nowhere in the world so much side fucking is taking place like in PH. Because of my GF and the way we look at things, she spills all kind of otherwise forbidden knowledge to me: all the girls she knows with a few exceptions have multiple boyfriends, it's mindboggling how easy they take it, and how men think they are the only ones, and also they fuck around too unknowingly to the girlfriends, cannot be even represented graphicly its a extremely complicated web, with nodes that are in continuously changing, and moving around. And I'm talking about filipinos only, the foreigners are rare here.
Simply put: everybody fucks everybody.

[Mr Enternational]

Here is the biggest one: turn up in town again with cash in one hand and dick in the other and 99.999% of girls will happily see you again.

That is only because the other point 001 per cent is dead.

[Dg8787]

Hi, I am new here and spent the entire month November in Angeles. Stayed in ABC Hotel and on my way to Red Street picked up a very hot gal in Soya Bar. LT and GFE and gave me such a naughty performance like never before with any other bargirl. Tipped her 5000 peso because it was so outstanding. Taking videos or photos, like you talked about here, is not allowed though in phillies so they are reluctant to do that so I did something risky and asked her to be my SB and she accepted. This is working out really fine as she is sending me the most naughty pics, toys, full face and all.

I am happy for your find. I am sure you are old enough to decide on value for your money. Hence no words of caution. No Debbie Downer cold water on your experience enjoy it man.

Congratulations!

[Goferring]

Hi, I am new here and spent the entire month November in Angeles. Stayed in ABC Hotel and on my way to Red Street picked up a very hot gal in Soya Bar. LT and GFE and gave me such a naughty performance like never before with any other bargirl. Tipped her 5000 peso because it was so outstanding. Taking videos or photos, like you talked about here, is not allowed though in phillies so they are reluctant to do that so I did something risky and asked her to be my SB and she accepted. This is working out really fine as she is sending me the most naughty pics, toys, full face and all.

Only you will know if the allowance you are sending her is worth the photos and calls that you are receiving while you are away. Having said that, I'll add some points to HappyKats list.

1/. Not only do the girls specialise in having numerous sponsors sending support at the same time, there are guys who actively seek out side dick positions. They might be her trike driver boyfriend but resident expats aren't excluded. Many guys here have been interrupted mid session while the girl has to stop to take a call from Germany.

2/. Any allowance you are sending needs to have an immediate payback. Forget about it keeping her honest, securing her respect, retiring her from the bar or keeping a reservation when you return. It ain't going to happen. Allowances from afar make zero difference.

3/. Lots of guys find that being generous while in town but silent while away is very effective. Girls are happy to meet a generous guy in the flesh and say thanks while staying silent while away avoids all the hard luck stories and associated cash requests.

4/. Crunch the numbers. Say you can visit once a year for a month's holiday so you send her 10 k a month as a Sugar allowance while away. That's 110 k /$1800 for some tiitty photos and maybe jacking off to a few video calls. Oh and once she sees that she has hooked an easy mark, then that 10 k will grow over time.

5/. Here is the biggest one: turn up in town again with cash in one hand and dick in the other and 99.999% of girls will happily see you again. They won't care that you didn't send money while you were away. They only care about the here and now.

You do you but my policy has always been to tell girls that I'm happy to be generous while in town but I don't even reply to messages while I'm back home. It's never been an issue. I have peace at home and many girls available at short notice and reasonable cost when I return.

Good luck. G.

[Mr Enternational]

This is working out really fine as she is sending me the most naughty pics, toys, full face and all.

Am I the odd man out? I get 800 pics and videos sent to me everyday by chicks I have fucked and I never even look at them. The last thing I want is to be inundated by pics and videos of someone I have already done all that stuff with live. Giving someone money for that shit? Never!

[Mr Enternational]

I did something risky and asked her to be my SB and she accepted. This is working out really fine as she is sending me the most naughty pics, toys, full face and all.

She is sending them to me too. Thanks for sending the money for us.

[MrHappyKat]

Hi, I am new here and spent the entire month November in Angeles. Stayed in ABC Hotel and on my way to Red Street picked up a very hot gal in Soya Bar. LT and GFE and gave me such a naughty performance like never before with any other bargirl. Tipped her 5000 peso because it was so outstanding. Taking videos or photos, like you talked about here, is not allowed though in phillies so they are reluctant to do that so I did something risky and asked her to be my SB and she accepted. This is working out really fine as she is sending me the most naughty pics, toys, full face and all.

This will probably not end well for you. But it's going great for her, at your expense.

This is the most prolific playbook in Angeles, and the Philippines, Thailand and every other SE Asia adult entertainment area.

She delivers great service, you fall in love (or just lust) and she tells you she wants to get out of the bar business, if only she could find the "right guy" to help her. She promises you a continuous string of naughty pics and vids, facetime calls every week, and she promises to use your money to find a better life by going to college, getting a legit job, or helping to support her sick mother / sisters / father / farm animal / etc.

Here's what she will not tell you. You are just one in 5, 10,20 or more guys she's fucked from the club or the PinaLove app that send her money on the regular. Those pics and vids she sent you went to all of the others as well. Those facetime calls are scheduled carefully so that she can get you off by video at 1:00 pm then get the next guy off at 2:00 pm, etc. She may (will) even call you WHILE she is getting banged by her local trike driver boyfriend.

Before you return to AC she will want to know your schedule and hotel so she can make sure she's available to meet you, without overlapping Foreign Dick #8 who also happens to be in town that week.

Eventually you will start to see the inconsistencies in her story and attention. Meanwhile she will start to push you to increase the cashflow as her world seemingly starts to fall apart with a (planned) unplanned series of disasters: Phone broke, brother in hospital, pregnant (and it can ONLY be yours), etc. As you start to sense the scam you will start to push back and ask for proof or more explanation. Then she will flip to the "you don't trust me" script and accuse you of being a heartless asshole. Guilt is almost as powerful as wet pussy. Finally, you will call her out and quit her. That will result in her Hail Mary attempt. "Oh Daddy, no! I love you! Can't you see my love? Please don't abandon me! I'll be lost without you!" This will be texted AS she sucks some other guys dick.

You are not her Sugar Daddy, and she is not your Sugar Baby. You are Chump Client Number 67 on her long list of Sponsors.

Welcome to the Monger Game.

The silver lining here: You got to bang a sweet, wet, energetic LBFM and had a great time in Angeles staying at the most expensive (overpriced) hotel in the area. At least the food at ABC is pretty good.