Jakarta

[XXL]

So I plan on visiting classic next week and this place has been mentioned more than any other plan on this thread. It'll be my first time going and I've got this sloppy seconds fetish but I like to remain covered. How do I participate in such an activity? Preferably I'the like to have a session with a girl that's literally just been filled up. No judgement it's just what I like. What is the absolute best way to go about doing this? If I mentioned it to mama I don't know if she'the understand what the heck I was talking about LOL and of course there's no way to know if a girl has been recently creamed so any advice on how to just about guarantee I can live out my fetish?

LOL, I always go right after opening time so as to avoid sloppy seconds, even if it means having far fewer girls to choose from. So the first thing you can do is to go late. This still does not guarantee your fetish will be fullfilled. I fear telling mama or the girl will only elicit bafflement and rejection. This is Asia, not Brazil or Europe. Girls in Asia are not sophisticated enough to go into such minority fetishes. I have one myself which would be dead easy for a girl to put into practice but I've given up pursuing it in Asia.

[HornDog215]

So I plan on visiting classic next week and this place has been mentioned more than any other plan on this thread. It'll be my first time going and I've got this sloppy seconds fetish but I like to remain covered. How do I participate in such an activity? Preferably I'the like to have a session with a girl that's literally just been filled up. No judgement it's just what I like. What is the absolute best way to go about doing this? If I mentioned it to mama I don't know if she'the understand what the heck I was talking about LOL and of course there's no way to know if a girl has been recently creamed so any advice on how to just about guarantee I can live out my fetish?

[Vendelo]

Hi Vendelo. At what point did these girls usually mention money? Still in the restaurant, at your place or in the morning? How much did they expect?

I had a couple of tinder dinners which led to nothing, mainly because I didn't find the girls attractive enough to make a move. But I would like to know what would have happened if I had make a move.

I actually don't mind at all having paid these dinners for the girls. I enjoyed their company and I was improving my Bahasa.

I never bring up compensation especially on Tinder because I don't want Tinder to delete my account. I always move the conversation to WA. If the girl wants to meet, which they all do, 99% will ask me what hotel am I staying at. When they ask about my hotel, I now know it will be transactional.

Just about every girl will ask me how much I will pay. And that's when we start discussing compensation. Will she stay for ST, LT or overnight. And I never discuss what services she will provide. It is always everything. I'm old. Look 15+ years younger. But in excellent shape and handsome so I never have a problem.

[Safado70]

Where / how did you meet these three girls?

If you met them on Tinder, you should expect to have paid sex on the first date.

If by chance, she sleeps over and there is no sex, she will expect to get paid for her time. This has been my experience with young 20-year olds I met on Tinder. And I've been to Jakarta numerous times and have met innumerable Tinder girls.

Hi Vendelo. At what point did these girls usually mention money? Still in the restaurant, at your place or in the morning? How much did they expect?

I had a couple of tinder dinners which led to nothing, mainly because I didn't find the girls attractive enough to make a move. But I would like to know what would have happened if I had make a move.

I actually don't mind at all having paid these dinners for the girls. I enjoyed their company and I was improving my Bahasa.

[Vendelo]

Hello all,

I want to get this straight: for Indonesian ladies, is it a standard on that on the first or second date with a foreigner (tourist or otherwise), there is the expectation of sex?

Meaning, does the Indonesia lady expect that the foreigner will be having sex with her on the first or second date? Is that a common expectation?

It happened to me whereby on 3 dates, the following happened:

1) Date 1: Invited her in Jakarta for a decent fine dining dinner, we had a good time, then drinks and dance, but then SHE talked to me telling me that she wasn't ready for sex tonight, and that if I was planning to have sex, she apologizes. (I did not bring up the subject. She did. Out of the blue. And I wasn't planning to have sex with her).

Where / how did you meet these three girls?

If you met them on Tinder, you should expect to have paid sex on the first date.

If by chance, she sleeps over and there is no sex, she will expect to get paid for her time. This has been my experience with young 20-year olds I met on Tinder. And I've been to Jakarta numerous times and have met innumerable Tinder girls.

[DoctorZ]

I walked my fat ass down to Classic from Movenpick after settling in after my arrival from Ho Chi Minh City. My initial impression of the building is that the place was probably the shit in the 80's. Its a little dated now. The aesthetics of the hotel are not why I am there so not an issue. I walked into T2 after my bracelet door prize was applied to my wrist. Goddamn, why don't they turn that shitty band down to a 4, they are playing at 11. Those poor unhappy girls must have hearing loss which is not the biggest job hazard for them, I suppose. I turned down mamasan's first attempt because I wanted a beer first. I went with the second attempt. A thick smiley redhead with a lot of makeup. She clearly hated being there and said she had a headache via google translate. Seriously. I did not enjoy myself. Classic is not my scene. The price is right but what a shitty, uncomfortable place to be. I would rather regret something that I have done than something that I have not done. Classic ain't my jam, now I know.

[Kctt1]

I did have sex on all other dates but these 3 dates above, I just didn't feel the chemistry with the lady, so I didn't go for it. But all 3 of them seemed to be "waiting for something" from my side.

Did you have sex on first day or second day or third day?

My experience is I feel the girls I met from Tinder just want a free meal at a luxury dining restaurant. They have excuse to go home after meeting at restaurant.

[ArnoldNe]

The traffic in Jakarta is no joke, best to plan your stay in the areas that you want to visit. Next time I will try to stay a couple of days in Kelapa Gading, couple in Blok M, couple in Central to spend less time in traffic and more time in some sweet indo pussy.

Yes, that makes perfect sense, I also choose hotel based on proximity to Classic and other places of action being in a short moto / scooter ride's distance.

I read in sevaral posts over here that Kelapa Gading is a rough / deserted / industrial neighborhood and transportation becomes scarce after dark, so I would also factor for shops, Indomarets, places of other interests nearby along with transportation availability at late hours.

[MrMiyaG]

I figured as much, going approx. 15 kms one side is no joke in Jakarta, I prefer Gojek for local travel have found them much more reasonable in terms of pricing and services are at par with others. Bluebird cab that I took from Airport to hotel, just kept 30-40 k difference under no change pretenses, didn't face any issues like this with Gojek drivers.

Some of my contacts in Jakarta are telling me that it is raining pretty hard over there right now, I know Jan experiences some rain, but saw some news on flooding etc also, hope you didn't face any issues and there are no major issues in Jakarta.

I don't have experience with the other taxi services I only use grab (short distance grab moto). One time I did try a bluebird taxi from Holiday Inn but he charged me 2 x the amount what I usually pay so that's why I only stick to grab so I can see beforehand how much my ride will be.

I'm not in Jakarta anymore, but I did have some rain in the first week of Jan but nothing major no flooding etc. I don't mind a little bit of rain because most of my activities are indoors.

When it rains it's a little more difficult to find a taxi / grab and the prices go up.

The traffic in Jakarta is no joke, best to plan your stay in the areas that you want to visit. Next time I will try to stay a couple of days in Kelapa Gading, couple in Blok M, couple in Central to spend less time in traffic and more time in some sweet indo pussy.

[ArnoldNe]

Pablo has good facilities and is worthy, Lariz yeah not my favorite but it's close by in central and have a couple of cute girls.

Yes Kelepa Gading has a couple of parlours that are worth the visit. The only thing is the traffic to get from central to there.

Usually takes 45 min one way 70 k+ with grab!

I figured as much, going approx. 15 kms one side is no joke in Jakarta, I prefer Gojek for local travel have found them much more reasonable in terms of pricing and services are at par with others. Bluebird cab that I took from Airport to hotel, just kept 30-40 k difference under no change pretenses, didn't face any issues like this with Gojek drivers.

Some of my contacts in Jakarta are telling me that it is raining pretty hard over there right now, I know Jan experiences some rain, but saw some news on flooding etc also, hope you didn't face any issues and there are no major issues in Jakarta.

[VonderJohn]

Hello all,

I want to get this straight: for Indonesian ladies, is it a standard on that on the first or second date with a foreigner (tourist or otherwise), there is the expectation of sex?

Meaning, does the Indonesia lady expect that the foreigner will be having sex with her on the first or second date? Is that a common expectation?

It happened to me whereby on 3 dates, the following happened:

1) Date 1: Invited her in Jakarta for a decent fine dining dinner, we had a good time, then drinks and dance, but then SHE talked to me telling me that she wasn't ready for sex tonight, and that if I was planning to have sex, she apologizes. (I did not bring up the subject. She did. Out of the blue. And I wasn't planning to have sex with her).

2) Date 2: She asks me about my schedule the next day, and when I told her my schedule without mentioning any plans to meet her, she goes like "ok so where do I fit in?" . Eventually I did fit her in my schedule, and we met on the beach, but I didn't feel like having sex with her (she wasn't my type). We never talked again. But during the second date, I felt she was 'waiting for something to happen'.

3) Date 3: We watched a basketball game, then walked back to my hotel. I invited her to my hotel room to "refresh', which she gladly accepted. In the hotel room, we had a rest, refreshed, talked a bit and then left. Then after that day, she didn't talk to me again. I tried pursuing her a bit but she wasn't available. Was it because I didn't advance into sex?

I did have sex on all other dates but these 3 dates above, I just didn't feel the chemistry with the lady, so I didn't go for it. But all 3 of them seemed to be "waiting for something" from my side.

Is this a cultural standard in Indonesian dating or what?

[MrMiyaG]

Great Report MrMiyaG.

Pablo and Lariz you mentioned already. Lariz seems skippable and same does Blowart (read some mixed reviews on that one incl. The poor infra), don't want to end up in a cabin type setup (don't like it).

Most of the less talked about spas seem concentrated in Kelapa Gading, it seems far from Central Jakarta, but I may visit it couple of times for exploration, hopefully with minimal road traffic.

Pablo has good facilities and is worthy, Lariz yeah not my favorite but it's close by in central and have a couple of cute girls.

Yes Kelepa Gading has a couple of parlours that are worth the visit. The only thing is the traffic to get from central to there.

Usually takes 45 min one way 70 k+ with grab!

[MrMiyaG]

MrMiyaG.

Thanks for your report. How did you find out that Pablos Cave and Resto offers more than food?

I have them on Telegram and I saw what services they provide before hand. Did not know / care about the food I was only interested in the massages.

Most of these places have a similar setup: bar, restaurant, massage / spa with ladies that provide extra services.

On Google Maps you could search for massage or (men) spas and from the pictures you could usually tell what kind of business it is.

In their contact info you can see their social media or WhatsApp and send them a message to be sure.

[Safado70]

MrMiyaG.

Thanks for your report. How did you find out that Pablos Cave and Resto offers more than food?

[ArnoldNe]

Jakarta is more than just Classic or Travel, although it's a good start but there is so much more to do.

I have visited both during my stay but I won't bore you with the details, ISG has multiple threads about these 2 places. Spa / Massage parlours are new favourite activity to do before night.

-the'Heaven Hotel And Spa.

Great Report MrMiyaG.

I have also joined bunch of groups on TG and these names have appeared more than once, I have joined a few spa specific groups also. Just to add couple of names to the list you shared are WhiteSand which promises Soapy experience (hope that is not just a name), I had loved it in Thailand few years back, Groovy, the El Group Club and SPAs.

Pablo and Lariz you mentioned already. Lariz seems skippable and same does Blowart (read some mixed reviews on that one incl. The poor infra), don't want to end up in a cabin type setup (don't like it).

Most of the less talked about spas seem concentrated in Kelapa Gading, it seems far from Central Jakarta, but I may visit it couple of times for exploration, hopefully with minimal road traffic.