Jakarta

[Asian Rain]

So I plan on visiting classic next week and this place has been mentioned more than any other plan on this thread. It'll be my first time going and I've got this sloppy seconds fetish but I like to remain covered. How do I participate in such an activity?

Having checked posting history, this sicko stuff smells like a troll post to me. Still "super excited" waiting for visit reports from his month-long Jakarta stay in 2022. What's next, a request for detailed breakdown on pricing? LOL. Can't believe this is being taken seriously. AR.

Hey all! Long time lurker new time poster! I am super excited to provide my reports! I was just approved and got my visa to enter Indonesia I'm leaving from JFK in NYC (my home) on February 21st.

My question is is the Grand Mercure Harmoni still a good hotel that has spas and restaurants open with working girls? As I'll have to quarantine in the hotel for. 7 days now I don't want nor can I actually leave the hotel. I was considering this hotel or going cheaper by staying at the classic.

Any advice or recommendations for "in house" entertainment for my month long stay in Indonesia starting February 21st (2022!)?

[Vendelo]

My experience is not at all like Vendelo's.

If a girl mentions money during online dating chat, I almost always next her, as I'm not using normal dating apps to meet hookers, so my experience are with girls who do not mention money beforehand.

All girls I've actually met in Jakarta via online dating have been purely non-transactional, most of them have asked what hotel I'm staying at, and most of them I've met at a coffee shop nearby, though some did come directly to the hotel (including the girl I liked the most and one of few I wanted to meet again). Most of them I fucked in my room afterwards, and no one ever asked for money, neither on first nor second date.

I suspect some guys here are turning normal, horny, "girls-just-want-to-have-fun"-girls into semi-hookers for no good reason. Few of us are so charming that we need to "pay the girl to leave", so there isn't even that silly excuse, and I've never had any problem worth mentioning in that regards (and you better believe I am one charming motherfucker.

I like your business model!

I visit Jakarta for about 2-3 weeks at a time so I don't have time to get to know a girl. But, I like your business model! I only use Tinder. Which app do you use to meet civvies?

[SuperLove]

I don't know why mongers are confusing dating with fucking. IMHO Jakarta is a great place to find girls for fucking and moving on. Dating and romance is a long term arrangement and you don't look for sex on the first date itself, you need time to build chemistry and physics both, LOL. When girls message me they want to see me in a public place for drinks dinner on the first date I call them to cork and screw at plaza Indonesia mall, a great place for this purpose. After the first drink I float the idea of eating her pussy and sex. If she says yes we order more drinks and go to my hotel nearby. If the answer is negative I will ask her to leave immediately so that she sees the reality and I can move on to my next appointment. Cut your losses and move on, usually 2-3 girls are always waiting for me in the mall in case the first or second chick screws up. Always good to know what you want, if you want companionship then there are other ways for the same. This city is a Paradise, let it be.

So don't meet at fancy dining places. First date is always at some cheap place (coffee shop, swimming pool, walk in the park). This quickly filters out that type of girls.

Wining and dining is for later dates if it actually turns out we both like each others company and want to meet again.

[Offshore Swell]

So I plan on visiting classic next week and this place has been mentioned more than any other plan on this thread. It'll be my first time going and I've got this sloppy seconds fetish but I like to remain covered. How do I participate in such an activity? Preferably I'the like to have a session with a girl that's literally just been filled up. No judgement it's just what I like. What is the absolute best way to go about doing this? If I mentioned it to mama I don't know if she'the understand what the heck I was talking about LOL and of course there's no way to know if a girl has been recently creamed so any advice on how to just about guarantee I can live out my fetish?

Jizzing in the girls at classic is officially a big no no and the mama will shut you down the moment you raise the subject. Especially if you are new and trying to conduct your business by google translate. You will be better to attend a downmarket lokalisasi where the girls expect every customer to jizz in them and washing facilities are rudimentary. Then you can choose between sloppy seconds and sloppy tenths.

Should you wish to proceed at classic you could invite your friendly local bajai driver for a bit of free rumpy pumpy and get him to tip the girl well not to wash her pussy out. This will however, go against all her instincts, especially when she starts worrying about having a baby to a bajai driver.

I can recommend seeking the counsel of my esteemed colleague, Mr Asian Rain who may well have some more constructive suggestions on how to achieve your life goals.

You could also just bring a big tube of room temperature Kewpie, squirt it all around and pretend it's jizz. That will really leave the room boys guessing.

Hope that helps.

[HornDog215]

Hey so I also had a question regarding pricing as I don't actually know the general cost can someone break it down so I'm not over paying and potentially messing up the economy.

Here for everyone else?

Some of the prices I was getting just seemed way over whack! Girls quoting me 1.5-2 juta for the hour or two. And I'm pretty familiar with what locals earn here, and 2 million for an hour seems outrageous! I've done 99% of my mongering in Colombia and prices ranged from $6-$11 USD for absolute hotties I can't imagine in a country where the currency is weaker than the dollar the prepaid ladies market is more expensive.

For what it's worth the numbers I was quoted were from online ads from girls on massagerepublic.

I'm the type of person I don't need hour service or over night. I like quick visits, once I nut I want to get out and I want to move on to the next. 15-30 minutes absolute MAX is what I'm looking for.

What are street girls going for?

What are parlor girls going for?

What are prepaid (online) girls going for?

[HornDog215]

Hey so I also had a question regarding pricing as I don't actually know the general cost can someone break it down so I'm not over paying and potentially messing up the economy.

Here for everyone else?

Some of the prices I was getting just seemed way over whack! Girls quoting me 1. 5-2 juta for the hour or two. And I'm pretty familiar with what locals earn here, and 2 million for an hour seems outrageous! I've done 99% of my mongering in Colombia and prices ranged from $6-$11 USD for absolute hotties I can't imagine in a country where the currency is weaker than the dollar the prepaid ladies market is more expensive.

For what it's worth the numbers I was quoted were from online ads from girls on massagerepublic.

I'm the type of person I don't need hour service or over night. I like quick visits, once I nut I want to get out and I want to move on to the next. 15-30 minutes absolute MAX is what I'm looking for.

[Werqweq]

Did you have sex on first day or second day or third day?

My experience is I feel the girls I met from Tinder just want a free meal at a luxury dining restaurant. They have excuse to go home after meeting at restaurant.

So don't meet at fancy dining places. First date is always at some cheap place (coffee shop, swimming pool, walk in the park). This quickly filters out that type of girls.

Wining and dining is for later dates if it actually turns out we both like each others company and want to meet again.

[Werqweq]

Hi Vendelo. At what point did these girls usually mention money? Still in the restaurant, at your place or in the morning? How much did they expect?

I had a couple of tinder dinners which led to nothing, mainly because I didn't find the girls attractive enough to make a move. But I would like to know what would have happened if I had make a move.

I actually don't mind at all having paid these dinners for the girls. I enjoyed their company and I was improving my Bahasa.

My experience is not at all like Vendelo's.

If a girl mentions money during online dating chat, I almost always next her, as I'm not using normal dating apps to meet hookers, so my experience are with girls who do not mention money beforehand.

All girls I've actually met in Jakarta via online dating have been purely non-transactional, most of them have asked what hotel I'm staying at, and most of them I've met at a coffee shop nearby, though some did come directly to the hotel (including the girl I liked the most and one of few I wanted to meet again). Most of them I fucked in my room afterwards, and no one ever asked for money, neither on first nor second date.

I suspect some guys here are turning normal, horny, "girls-just-want-to-have-fun"-girls into semi-hookers for no good reason. Few of us are so charming that we need to "pay the girl to leave", so there isn't even that silly excuse, and I've never had any problem worth mentioning in that regards (and you better believe I am one charming motherfucker ;-)).

My bet is if you had made the move, they'd joined you in your room, and depending on logistics with regards to their work next morning, either left in the night or very early in the morning without any further ado, just like any normal girl in the west. I always let them use my phone to book taxi for themselves when they leave, which they all seem to appreciate.

[Offshore Swell]

Yes, that makes perfect sense, I also choose hotel based on proximity to Classic and other places of action being in a short moto / scooter ride's distance.

I read in sevaral posts over here that Kelapa Gading is a rough / deserted / industrial neighborhood and transportation becomes scarce after dark, so I would also factor for shops, Indomarets, places of other interests nearby along with transportation availability at late hours.

Gawd! OS loves how you lot all become instant experts on Indonesia based on what you pick up here.

Kelapa Gading is the culinary heart of Jakarta, it has three modern shopping centres open until 10 PM and is one of the more prestigious localities to live in Jakarta. It also has massage places, lots of and Sumo, Kings Cross and MTR II, then 3 km away you can slum it in the Koja bars.

[HornDog215]

Come with a group of friends or try to make friends with other clients. And ask them. Hey, if you pay for my session, I might even tip the girl so that she doesn't take a shower after our session. LOL.

That's the thing I'm here solo if I had a group of friends I'the definitely do it LOL heck if anyone is in Jakarta and looking to help me out! Your session is on me! LOL but I read a recent post that mentioned waiting for guys to come back downstairs I guess from.

Where they go up to the rooms? And just picking that girl before she has the chance to wash up? Never been to classic so didn't know there was an upstairs from where the main floor is? But that sounds like a 50/50 shot?

[Vendelo]

So I plan on visiting classic next week and this place has been mentioned more than any other plan on this thread. It'll be my first time going and I've got this sloppy seconds fetish but I like to remain covered. How do I participate in such an activity? Preferably I'the like to have a session with a girl that's literally just been filled up. No judgement it's just what I like. What is the absolute best way to go about doing this? If I mentioned it to mama I don't know if she'the understand what the heck I was talking about LOL and of course there's no way to know if a girl has been recently creamed so any advice on how to just about guarantee I can live out my fetish?

Watch for girls that return from a session and book them ASAP.

Your fetish is absolutely disgusting but I have my own horrible fetishes.

[Safado70]

So I plan on visiting classic next week and this place has been mentioned more than any other plan on this thread. It'll be my first time going and I've got this sloppy seconds fetish but I like to remain covered. How do I participate in such an activity? Preferably I'the like to have a session with a girl that's literally just been filled up. No judgement it's just what I like. What is the absolute best way to go about doing this? If I mentioned it to mama I don't know if she'the understand what the heck I was talking about LOL and of course there's no way to know if a girl has been recently creamed so any advice on how to just about guarantee I can live out my fetish?

Come with a group of friends or try to make friends with other clients. And ask them. Hey, if you pay for my session, I might even tip the girl so that she doesn't take a shower after our session. LOL.

[Expat American]

Hello all,

I want to get this straight: for Indonesian ladies, is it a standard on that on the first or second date with a foreigner (tourist or otherwise), there is the expectation of sex?

Meaning, does the Indonesia lady expect that the foreigner will be having sex with her on the first or second date? Is that a common expectation?

It happened to me whereby on 3 dates, the following happened:

1) Date 1: Invited her in Jakarta for a decent fine dining dinner, we had a good time, then drinks and dance, but then SHE talked to me telling me that she wasn't ready for sex tonight, and that if I was planning to have sex, she apologizes. (I did not bring up the subject. She did. Out of the blue. And I wasn't planning to have sex with her).

Indonesia is conservative Muslim country with some incredibly horny women. These women cannot express their sexuality with local men to protect their reputation. So, when a handsome foreigner comes through, treats them well and allows them to express their repressed sexuality they are truly wonderful in bed. I have had experiences with everything from married women in their 30's to 21 year old college students. The sex has been off the charts and many of these girls are kinky as shit too. This is by no means 100% of all the women out there but enough of these kinds exist.

[Expat American]

So I plan on visiting classic next week and this place has been mentioned more than any other plan on this thread. It'll be my first time going and I've got this sloppy seconds fetish but I like to remain covered. How do I participate in such an activity? Preferably I'the like to have a session with a girl that's literally just been filled up. No judgement it's just what I like. What is the absolute best way to go about doing this? If I mentioned it to mama I don't know if she'the understand what the heck I was talking about LOL and of course there's no way to know if a girl has been recently creamed so any advice on how to just about guarantee I can live out my fetish?

Easy. Lets go together. You pay for my girl. I fill her up for you and then you take her next. We arrange with the Mama to take her 2 sessions back to back.

[VonderJohn]

Where / how did you meet these three girls?

If you met them on Tinder, you should expect to have paid sex on the first date.

If by chance, she sleeps over and there is no sex, she will expect to get paid for her time. This has been my experience with young 20-year olds I met on Tinder. And I've been to Jakarta numerous times and have met innumerable Tinder girls.

My quick answers:

1) I met these girls through Bumble, not Tinder. Through Tinder, almost all girls are sex workers or dating for benefits. They quickly ask "where do you stay" and they offer their services accordingly with the price. That's Tinder in Indonesia and I'm not confused about it. The girls I met where Bumble girls (I. E more decent, better looking and less transactional than Tinder).

2) I had a good, fun time with all of these girls, but didn't find them attractive enough to make a move. Also, I found them too 'decent' to be banged on the same day of meeting them. They were the type that you'd enjoy a few dates with (because they're good to talk to and not shallow) before having sex.

My question is that: is it customary for Bumble girls in Jakarta (and similarly decent and well educated girls) to expect sex + pampering (payment, gift. Etc) on the first date with a foreigner? Or is this only the case for Tinder sex workers / escorts?