Angeles City

[Goferring]

On more than one occasion, I have brought home women totally down who slept the sleep of the dead (I don; t spot that in advance, so shame on me). There are lots of freelancers barely surviving and the bar world is like one of those birds' nests where the weak get tossed to the wolves Darwin style. I've seen it.

Nothing wrong with a Walk on the Wild Side. I don't actively court girls from skid row but I do have a weakness for the opposite end of the spectrum. Pole dancers are my kriptonite but, the same as junkies, emotional stability and sanity don't rank high on their skill set. I have had the odd apparently normal girl duck out to powder her nose, return, and then go absolutely nuts due to the after effects. Some have resulted in trashed rooms and security being called but others were so comical to be enjoyable.

Yes, Darwin is alive and well on the Strip and amongst the girls. Unfortunately Julia Roberts isn't.

Enjoy. G.

[A Traveler]

Streetwalkers are not my thing, but they are available here. Every evening there is a lady sitting on the sidewalk on the walk from One Euphoria to Red Street. There are ladies on the sidewalk outside of Phillies. Some of them seem to have sexy slim bodies, but when you see them up close they have 40 or 50+ faces. Different strokes for different folks. I prefer girls in their twenties, and the bars are an opportunity to quickly scope out a lot of girls, and note the ones I'm interested in. Many of the girls are "average" but I always see one or two I am interested in. While I am here, I don't have the patience to spend hours chatting with freelancers online, waiting around for them to show up (they are often very late), and being disappointed that they don't look like their pictures. I will do that in a place like Cebu or Manila, but I feel like the reason to come to this place is the bars.

There were some lookers in Q Bar, and one was a stunner. Q Bar is Western managed and fun. According to another forum, Crystal Palace has reopened and has some pretties, so I plan to visit tonight. They also say Hi Quality is "Western friendly. " I have always avoided that place because I thought it was a Korean-style take out brothel. I'll check it out too.

[Jarango]

I'm at home, a little bored, so I have fallen into the trap of watching a few of the Angeles' vloggers. I won't embarass anyone by naming names but a few are pretty much destitute and flat out affording a couple of beers. However, they are still dragging freelancers home. This has reinforced with me that hookers price and service based upon what ever the market, ie the John, will bare.

Some of the girls are literally living under a bridge with track marks up their arm yet still getting booked at 500 a go. But others are off work from 5000 STs at the gogos yet happy to accept 1000 for the afternoon and throw in cleaning up a shit hole apartment or cooking him lunch for free..

Very interesting post. Of course, elasticity has to be taken into account as not all of us will bonk Skid Row's finest (yhough I have bonked hookers who jacked up in front of me). There are fantasists here. On more than one occasion, I have brought home women totally down who slept the sleep of the dead (I don; t spot that in advance, so shame on me). There are lots of freelancers barely surviving and the bar world is like one of those birds' nests where the weak get tossed to the wolves Darwin style. I've seen it.

The locals are not paying Walking Street prices which are, by definition, tourist prices for scrubbed up farm hands.

There are rough and ready hookers around Roman Hotel behind Johnnys but I try to avoid them even in the day. Ditto those outside Phillies in the late morning who are still there from the night before.

Though I am sociologically interested in the track mark lot abnd those who film them, at this stage, I can do without. Online bonks is the way to go.

[Mr Enternational]

But others are off work from 5000 STs at the gogos yet happy to accept 1000 for the afternoon and throw in cleaning up a shit hole apartment or cooking him lunch for free.

Meanwhile, there are guys who can not understand that this is a thing. In the business world it is called price discrimination. Just because McDonald's is able to sell a Big Mac in one place for $5, does not mean it will not sell a Big Mac in another place for $2. The girl understands the value of 1000 pesos, whereas most foreigners don't.

Why would a girl who can make 5000 in less than an hour give it for 700 to Thai men? Do Thai men feed her some magic potion? These girls do not even do Thai men, except for some "boyfriend" to whom they put out for free (not for puny 700 baht).

[Goferring]

You're right.
Upon analyzing the situation I came upon the conclusion that the inflation is due to the influx of pussies, not the real ones, but feminized newbies that treat the ho's like princesses.

I'm at home, a little bored, so I have fallen into the trap of watching a few of the Angeles' vloggers. I won't embarass anyone by naming names but a few are pretty much destitute and flat out affording a couple of beers. However, they are still dragging freelancers home. This has reinforced with me that hookers price and service based upon what ever the market, ie the John, will bare.

Some of the girls are literally living under a bridge with track marks up their arm yet still getting booked at 500 a go. But others are off work from 5000 STs at the gogos yet happy to accept 1000 for the afternoon and throw in cleaning up a shit hole apartment or cooking him lunch for free.

I've always been a supporter of guys spending their money however on whomever they want. Whatever makes them happy is perfectly fine with me. But assuming that outrageous rates for substandard sessions is the only option in AC, or anywhere else, is wildly wrong.

Rant off. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

[Old And Ugly]

I shall be in Angeles very shortly and, as part of that process, I have been busy on sites like pinalove exploring the market. I am shocked at the prices hookers are asking for what is essentially a pump and dump service. When their profiles say they want to talk, I talk but it is like talking to a baby, who only knows the conversation pieces one finds amongst the women of Walking Street (where you from, where you stay, I wait for u).

The average daily salary for unskilled labour is 600 PHP, if they are lucky but they want almost a week's salary, 3000 PHP minimum for long time, IE to sleep in my bed and make me sleep with one eye open. Others have offered me orgies with more alarm bells than an alarm bell factory would have.

I find all those chats interesting homework so one better knows what to avoid.

Of course, I know I will get cheaper than this by scouring around and hitting the provinces. The bigger issue is prostitutes do not know their role. The short time rate in Europe varies from 100 (7,000 PHP) down south to a totally ridiculous 300+ further north for some Brazilian fat ass. Last time I got short time for 1500 PHP (20) and I think that is being more than generous when you add in short time room etc.

As regards the outlandish prices quoted here for some scrubbed up field hand in a go go bar and a g string, forget about that. When I put it to Americans as to why they drop serious money in las Vegas (I abhor all gambling) and why they just don't go to the local spit and sawdust joint, they say they prefer las Vegas to live the life, to savour the vibes etc. Fuck that.

The way I see it I will be in Luzon for a period of time with two basic carnal needs: 1. Pump and dump, which entails paying 1500 PHP max. 2, anything special that might come along (not in a go go bar), whch must be handled on a case by case cost benefit analysis. Not puppy love but Theodora Street rub and tug massage parlours are not the best place to spend Valentine's day.

You're right.
Upon analyzing the situation I came upon the conclusion that the inflation is due to the influx of pussies, not the real ones, but feminized newbies that treat the ho's like princesses. I'm not advocating to treat them bad, I respect them, but from reading most of the reports here I realized that this is what encourages the simple minded, easy influenceable ho's to have an attitude like supermodels. All this talk about she wants this, she wouldn't do that, blah blah blah, at first was comical, but for god's sake people, wake up, they are ho's, paid to fulfill your fantasies as long as they're the common type like fucking, sucking, kissing, if it's more than that then yes is up for discussion, but stop treating them like innocent untouched royalty. It's enough that the K imbeciles brought that upon us, don't exacerbate it.

[A Traveler]

I was on a mission so went straight to Gecko's to try to negotiate no condom with the bubbly girl. Note that this is normally not necessary. I had just gotten into a weird situation last year when I was her first BF, her sister accompanied me to my room and just sat there, she wouldn't undress so I asked to boom boom her sister no condom. I'll never get myself into that situation again LOL. Anyways Not surprisingly, she would not agree to what I wanted and I left empty handed. I'm glad I tried and I can forget about her.

I went straight to Atlantis and the sexy tall dancer was on stage doing a choreographed dance. I had the waitress call her down, and it was another weird but very satisfying experience. She must not speak English because it was impossible to talk to her. And she sat leaning forward. But I didn't pussy foot around and asked to BF her again, which she agreed to for the going price of 5,000 for ST. Yeah, I know, the prices suck. But this is a smoking hot twenty year old with the body of a dancer.

We walked back mostly in silence. In the room we quickly got to the action. There's something wrong with many of the girls here physically. Usually some kind of baby damage. Otherwise many have big bellies. But this girl is flawless female perfection. Another quick session. Once again she took a nap. After 30 minutes I looked at the perfect naked girl in my bed and stuck in in again. She must like it because even though we only did mish, she was very active and moved as much as I did. I think that's how she was able to get me off two time in one hour. If she was just laying there I wouldn't be able to finish the second time. She's like human viagra.

She laid in bed for a bit, then was dressed and out the door before I was able to give her the 500 I felt she earned for a two pop ST. Will I repeat? Not sure. It's pure sex, there's talking or "connection" or GFE. But it was great sex, so I'll probably do one more session in a few days. She's one of the top five hottest girls I've banged.

Once again it was kind of great to be in bed by ten. I'm getting great sleep here.

Since last night was so successful it would be kind of nice to take a night off. I still have more than a week here so there's time. But I want to see the Instagram teen again. Note that I don't necessary think she "likes" me. But she did talk, show me her pictures, look at my pictures and do those things that made if feel more like an oldschool GFE.

Regarding getting freelancers for 1,500, that sounds low. I think 3,000 is more in line with the going rate. Honestly I can't be bothered taking the time chatting with dozens of ladies online trying to arrange flings here in AC. AC has venues where I can carefully select the girls I'm interested in, and take them directly. Some people like that experience, some don't. The guys here having fun are not posting on this forum, so it skews towards folks who don't like the bars. If you don't like the bar experience, It's probably better to stay in Manila or pick another major city like Cebu to focus on the online game. I was having some luck in Cebu last year, but it's hours and hours of tedious chatting every day. The young cuties are invariably far away in the provinces. The girls I ended up getting to come over were fine, but not smoking hot twenty year old dancers. If you want the latter, it's easier to get that here. But you have to pay for it. Tradeoffs.

[Dg8787]

Posters have come and gone trying to make a correlation to daily minimum wages to short time fee. I have never seen the market correlations. Some might use it to rationalize to cost. It all boils down to supply and demand no whether where. Sometimes in a far away province ST is more. Why? Supply and demand.

Has anyone ever made a correlation been a loaf of bread to daily minimum wages? A beer? Trike ride? No! Why ST?

Supply and demand people. A few months ago I was referred to a beautiful 19 yo fresh of the boat. She was happy with 3 k. Innocent bubbly babe. She was going to start work in the bar. I predicted she would not last long before a foreigner picked her up as his girlfriend. Sure enough she got a BF with a 30 k monthly allowance. If I didn't like fuxkin around so much I might have made her my GF. Supply and demand. She was one of a kind.

[Jarango]

I shall be in Angeles very shortly and, as part of that process, I have been busy on sites like pinalove exploring the market. I am shocked at the prices hookers are asking for what is essentially a pump and dump service. When their profiles say they want to talk, I talk but it is like talking to a baby, who only knows the conversation pieces one finds amongst the women of Walking Street (where you from, where you stay, I wait for u).

The average daily salary for unskilled labour is 600 PHP, if they are lucky but they want almost a week's salary, 3000 PHP minimum for long time, IE to sleep in my bed and make me sleep with one eye open. Others have offered me orgies with more alarm bells than an alarm bell factory would have.

I find all those chats interesting homework so one better knows what to avoid.

Of course, I know I will get cheaper than this by scouring around and hitting the provinces. The bigger issue is prostitutes do not know their role. The short time rate in Europe varies from 100€ (7,000 PHP) down south to a totally ridiculous 300€+ further north for some Brazilian fat ass. Last time I got short time for 1500 PHP (€20) and I think that is being more than generous when you add in short time room etc.

As regards the outlandish prices quoted here for some scrubbed up field hand in a go go bar and a g string, forget about that. When I put it to Americans as to why they drop serious money in las Vegas (I abhor all gambling) and why they just don't go to the local spit and sawdust joint, they say they prefer las Vegas to live the life, to savour the vibes etc. Fuck that.

The way I see it I will be in Luzon for a period of time with two basic carnal needs: 1. Pump and dump, which entails paying 1500 PHP max. 2, anything special that might come along (not in a go go bar), whch must be handled on a case by case cost benefit analysis. Not puppy love but Theodora Street rub and tug massage parlours are not the best place to spend Valentine's day.

[Goferring]

Did it work? Was it necessary? I don't know, but the session could not have gone better (except for her leaving after, of course).

She gave me her Instagram.....

This girl's Instagram looks like she's one of those cute girls teasing guys on Facebook, but she's not making money off it, thankfully. Otherwise she would not still be working here.

Well done on having a great time. I've always placed attitude well above raw good looks and it sounds as if you enjoyed both.

Having her contacts is a good sign for future fun. She may not miss a full shift to see you (fines are expensive) but catching up before or after work is definitely on the cards.

Just be careful. Thinking that "my girl is different" can be very dangerous indeed.

Enjoy. G.

[A Traveler]

Unbelievable success last night. My plan was to throw more money away trying to get cute bubbly Gecco's girl to BF, with a fallback plan of taking the sexy Atlantis dancer again. But I needed some beers in my first to get up my "courage" so figured I'd check out some more venues. The K-bars don't have happy hours and are not fun places to sit and have a beer, so that does not leave a lot of options. I visited Brown Sugar, which is under new management. Quite a few girls on stage, and they were animated and dancing around, but nobody I was interested. Until a young girl with glasses showed up. Damnit, Every time I go in a new place I find anther girl I want. But I'm on a mission, I had to stay focused. On the way out I smiled and waved at glasses girl, and she waved back, so that is an option in the future.

I visited another place, which I'm not going to name, and it was an immediate emergency call a girl down right away situation. An impossibly beautiful girl was up on stage. Turns out she was 18, and planned to quit in April to study to become a flight attendant. I wanted to support her studies, so I chatted with her over one drink, she was friendly enough, and she was willing to go with me for the 5,000 BF, which I assumed (correctly) would be ST only. I broke my rule and pussy footed around by taking her to XS to "build rapport."

Did it work? Was it necessary? I don't know, but the session could not have gone better (except for her leaving after, of course). She gave me her Instagram. My Facebook has become inundated with young Filipino and Thai girls doing dances in belly shirts. Guys back in the West flirt with these girls and send them money, which is nuts. This girl's Instagram looks like she's one of those cute girls teasing guys on Facebook, but she's not making money off it, thankfully. Otherwise she would not still be working here. I'm not going to post her Instagram, but I feel like it's safe to upload an image from it, since it doesn't show her face.

Anyways, she had an impossible 18 year old body, kissed passionately, let me eat her out, and grabbed my dick and put it in without mentioning the see word. She hung around for a little after, watching some of my travel videos, then out the door. She says she's off tonight, but I want a repeat ASAP.

So tonight will be a free night, and I'm not sure what to do. The more time you spend here, the more the options open up. Continue with the Geckos girl folly? A hope in the back of my mind is that if I could do a session with her, maybe I could pull off a three way with her impossibly cute coworker. Repeat with Atlantis dance? And Q Bar girl is going back to work tonight. But she's "old" at 28 with a baby. But she did say she would do a threeway. But I feel like I should focus on these younger baby-free girls.

Decisions Decisions.

[A Traveler]

Funny story. On one of my earlier reports, I described visiting Lollipop, and seeing the "sweet innocent" girl I barfined six months ago, who had become a raunchy ho. Yesterday I finally realized there is more to the story. Last year in Lollipop I bought a drink for a tall, slim sexy girl, let's call her "Mary Jane". Up close she was closer to 30 than 20, maybe 30+, but had a hot body and dyed hair. And she was pretty raunchy, grinding on me and grabbing me. She also asked probing questions about why I wasn't married, so I eventually left without her.

A few days later I returned and saw a sexy tall girl with the classic long black hair. She was also "Mary Jane," but was new to the bar and would not BF because she was on "mens. " I came back a few days later and she was willing to go. I paid her BF and she went to change.

Eventually a tall sexy girl in a dress walked past me, and smiled and made for the exit. I didn't get a clear look at her face, but figured it was the girl I just barfined, so walked out with her. When we got to the exit, who should show up, but MJ2, who I had BF'd. LOL, I walked out with MJ1.

So I was trying to figure out how the sweet innocent (seeming) MJ2 I barfined the other day had transformed so radically into a ho. She was one of the few girls to give me her Facebook (they give their WhatsApp these days), and yesterday she had an update from some resort, and she looked the same as last year, with natural black hair. If her hair was dyed brown yesterday, how is it black today. I compared the FB picture to the picture I took of the "Mary Jane" I barfined the other night, and LOL, I had BF'd MJ1, not MJ2.

[Big77]

Been to Thailand a few times and want to try a new place. Always heard good things about the Philippines and thought I'd give it a shot later this year, but I just watched a video of Fields Ave with almost no one on it. Just empty during high season. Is it still worth 16 hours of flying, or is it played out?

[Old And Ugly]

Thanks for the encouragement Sir L.

This place can be fun if you have reasonable expectations. If you're expecting every bar to be packed with 20 year old beauties smiling and waving at you, you will be disappointed. Most of the ladies are pretty average. But if you take the time to visit a few venues, I guarantee you will find what you're looking for.

The ladies on stage also seem to be aloof, staring straight ahead like robots (with some exceptions, like Viking). That kind of sucks, but it lets you stare at them for as long as you need to decide on the one you want. Then you have to take an action, either tell the waitress who to cold call down. Or sometimes I'll get up and walk past the stage on the way to the bathroom and wave to see if she waves back. Then on the way back I'll go up to her and ask if I can buy her a drink. Or just walk up to the stage and ask her directly, but she might not be interested.

The walk past the stage technique worked last night at Avalon on a bikini girl who was a little animated. That's because she had been working two years. Only 22, with a four year old. She had that classic Filipina look with long straight black hair. Weirdly, after a couple weeks here I start getting sick of that and start going after girls with styled or colored hair. Anyways I didn't pussy foot around and after one lady drink asked her to barfine, which she agreed to. Once again, 5,000, which I assumed (correctly) would be ST.

Straight back home. She had her own condom, and she put it on me and rode me for a while. I put her mish and asked to take it off, which she eventually agreed to if I finished on her tummy. It ended up being another competent but satisfying transactional ST. She said she would stay LT next time. If you pull a new girl, she's probably not going to stay the night. But if you manage to find one you have chemistry with, LT might be possible. I'm not sure if she's the one.

Possible plans for tonight. Maybe I should repeat with the Atlantis dancer. No real chemistry, and it will be ST only, but she's a sexy twenty year old with no baby. Or go back to Geckos and possibly flush more money down the toilet. I had the weirdest experience ever last year when I barfined an 18 year old. I was her first BF. Long story short, when she got back to my place (with her sister too, like I said, long story), she had no idea what was expected of her and they both ended up leaving. That's why I don't mess around with bargirls anymore like I'm on a date and just take them straight home. Well, six months later she's still there and remembered me somehow. I didn't remember her face and it took me a long time to figure out what she was talking about when she said I had barfined her.

Not one to mess around anymore, I asked her to BF again, but she said she lad to "clean her apartment. " LOL. That's a new one. But she's a cutie so I asked if I could come see her tomorrow. Unfortunately she remembered me asking her sister if I could bang her without a condom and asked if I would use one. So if I go back tonight I'll have to explicitly negotiate no condom boom boom in the bar over a 300 peso lady drink, and be willing to lose that money and walk away. Part of me want to cut my losses, but she's a cutie. Ahhh, the "problems" you have in AC!

Also, glasses girl has disappeared from Acadia, but I saw a cutie with short, brown curly hair. There's always another girl here.

That's what I keep recommending to everybody: Take your time, look, wait, search and you'll find what you want.

[A Traveler]

I've enjoyed your reports but unfortunately they have highlighted three reasons why I may no longer fit in in Angeles.

1/. I don't like debating a list of inclusions and exclusions with a girl to ensure I get what I want. Maybe I'm spoilt but most of the provincial girls are pretty much up for everything.

2/. Covered becoming a default no will be the end of the Philippines. Not even having to ask has been a major drawcard for decades.

3/. I'm a big fan of waking up to breakfast fun so ST only is a major turn off for me.

Thanks again for your reports. Keep them coming. My comments above weren't a reflection on them. More my attitude towards AC in general..

Thanks. Don't consider point 1, this girl is a "special case" that I'm screwed up the first time, and am trying to recover. I have not had to negotiate with the other new girls. Unfortunately, the other two points are valid. The remedy is to find a girl you "vibe" with, who knows you want uncovered and is willing the spend the night. It's possible, but take time.