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  1. #537

    Looking for love in all the wrong places

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    The issue is not that you provide inaccurate information.

    The issue is that you have a very flawed definition of what you consider "good service".

    Like I said before, if every monger here adopted your view that good service is whether they nutted or not, that would be a problem.

    That's a signal. It means that your viewpoint is wrong.

    What is the viewpoint of "good service" that every monger here should adopt?

    That would be my viewpoint. Which is: good service = paying for a block of time with a working girl with an understanding of what services are acceptable during the session, and being able to largely control the pacing of that time that you've purchased, and ideally nutting.

    When mongers adopt my viewpoint, the quality of service that working girls have to provide to be considered "good" goes up. The competition between working girls remains fiercer. And the priorities must shift towards paying attention to the monger, if a woman plans to stay in this business for any length of time.

    When mongers adopt your viewpoint, that only nutting is good service, the quality of service from working girls goes down. And all mongers end up suffering because of this.
    I think the issue is dudes are looking for a connection (with many women) in a very short period of time. At the end of the day all a prostitute can do is help you to come.

    If you don't know the hoe don't go. It's as simple as that If you can't describe what you're looking for in a single sentence I'm not sure how you expect a girl to give you what you want.

    I will say that most mongers share more similarities than differences.

    One other thing It's wild to hear the Sosua advocate to Sue hater so fast. All I can say is if you had a bad time then don't go. You can chime in on why the place didn't work for you but understand just like Sub Commander was critical of Sosua and the Dominican Republic as a whole you still came. I think I tried to manage your expectations on your first travel announcement myself and you still came and returned. Understand that no matter what you type someone else will replace you.

    As for Sosua itself the writing has been on the wall Urban renewal is here. Anyone who watched the HBO show ¨The Duece¨ Or old enough to remember the old Times Square has seen this play before.

    Sosua is a small beach town like Bani with more booty. Soon it will look more like Bani that doesn't mean there will be no booty around but it won't be enough to justify a true four a day sportsfucker to make the trip over a long weekend.

    If you established connections, and managed expectations you could make Sosua or Seattle work for you but looking for a place that will be a budget Las Vegas forever aint happening.

    Sosua had it's run now it's time to move on.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  2. #536
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    If you disagree with me just say so. Point out my mistakes. I'll own them. The problem is that I don't make many. Especially when it comes to providing actionable intelligence on ISG. What props do I need to give to anyone? Especially you!

    I don't know if English is your first language, but you need to review the definition of a fact vs opinion.

    I hope you don't think that you are representing manhood. Individuals that make statements about others that are false are called liars. Why they do it is beyond me?

    One thing for sure, no one has ever been able to point out that I have provided inaccurate information on ISG after over 15 years of posting
    The issue is not that you provide inaccurate information.

    The issue is that you have a very flawed definition of what you consider "good service".

    Like I said before, if every monger here adopted your view that good service is whether they nutted or not, that would be a problem.

    That's a signal. It means that your viewpoint is wrong.

    What is the viewpoint of "good service" that every monger here should adopt?

    That would be my viewpoint. Which is: good service = paying for a block of time with a working girl with an understanding of what services are acceptable during the session, and being able to largely control the pacing of that time that you've purchased, and ideally nutting.

    When mongers adopt my viewpoint, the quality of service that working girls have to provide to be considered "good" goes up. The competition between working girls remains fiercer. And the priorities must shift towards paying attention to the monger, if a woman plans to stay in this business for any length of time.

    When mongers adopt your viewpoint, that only nutting is good service, the quality of service from working girls goes down. And all mongers end up suffering because of this.

  3. #535

    Quality vs Quantity

    My posts are mostly of quality content that is used to aide mongers in real world applications. Your posts ain't nothing more than mere rubbish that most folks tend to stay away from. Me personally I'm not afraid to set your ass straight. And yes your wallet did get stolen the fact is this was it lady Thai or lady boy? Now you tell us now!

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Since when was posting to ISG considered a negative in your mind only MwenByen?

    I am trying to play catch up. Nah, bro! What you are trying to do is play catch up. I have over ten times more posts than you do. So, that is never going to happen. I see that still hasn't stopped you from trying. I see you are trying your best. 12 of your last 15 posts are responses to mine.

    ROTFLMAO!

    Is your statement a fact, opinion or speculation (look that word up also)?

    ROTFLMAO!

  4. #534

    6000 posts vs 600

    Since when was posting to ISG considered a negative in your mind only MwenByen?

    Quote Originally Posted by MwenByen  [View Original Post]
    You wasn't posting for a long time. Now you're trying to play catch up.
    I am trying to play catch up. Nah, bro! What you are trying to do is play catch up. I have over ten times more posts than you do. So, that is never going to happen. I see that still hasn't stopped you from trying. I see you are trying your best. 12 of your last 15 posts are responses to mine.

    ROTFLMAO!

    Quote Originally Posted by MwenByen  [View Original Post]
    I'm pretty sure the reason behind your absence was that a prostitute stole your electronics and wallet and that's it.
    Is your statement a fact, opinion or speculation (look that word up also)?

    ROTFLMAO!

  5. #533

    Self confidence is not having a ego! No need to admit to what didn't happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by MwenByen  [View Original Post]
    I point out 2 things you're not 100% big enough to man up to your own mistakes nor will you even give people their props.
    If you disagree with me just say so. Point out my mistakes. I'll own them. The problem is that I don't make many. Especially when it comes to providing actionable intelligence on ISG. What props do I need to give to anyone? Especially you!

    I don't know if English is your first language, but you need to review the definition of a fact vs opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by MwenByen  [View Original Post]
    You wasn't posting for a long time. Now you're trying to play catch up. I'm pretty sure the reason behind your absence was that a prostitute stole your electronics and wallet and that's it.
    I hope you don't think that you are representing manhood. Individuals that make statements about others that are false are called liars. Why they do it is beyond me?

    One thing for sure, no one has ever been able to point out that I have provided inaccurate information on ISG after over 15 years of posting

  6. #532

    Very Egocentric

    I point out 2 things you're not 100% big enough to man up to your own mistakes nor will you even give people their props.

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Not looking for you to agree with me. Don't need to be right. I only want to put my perspective out there. 15 years of posting on ISG and only you don't know what my objective is?

    My objective is to nut!

    I consistently meet my objective. Each individual International Trick gets to decide what his definition of good service is.

    You do not get to define good service for anyone other than yourself!

    Brother, however you wish to define good service that is on you. I stipulate that your definition is best for you. If you like it I love it!

    My definition of good service is wrong for you but All right for me.

    You know why?

    My time; My money; My dick; My call!

  7. #531

    You moved the goal posts. So the discussion is over.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    If we're operating under your definition of just getting a nut, you're right, and I concede the argument to you.
    Not looking for you to agree with me. Don't need to be right. I only want to put my perspective out there. 15 years of posting on ISG and only you don't know what my objective is?

    My objective is to nut!

    I consistently meet my objective. Each individual International Trick gets to decide what his definition of good service is.

    You do not get to define good service for anyone other than yourself!

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    But I'm only interested in operating under my definition, which would mean you are largely wrong.
    Brother, however you wish to define good service that is on you. I stipulate that your definition is best for you. If you like it I love it!

    My definition of good service is wrong for you but All right for me.

    You know why?

    My time; My money; My dick; My call!

    If you having girl problems I feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but a ***** ain't one

  8. #530
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    This is your core argument!

    In order for us to have a discussion you must keep your core argument in mind and not vacillate.

    In order for us to have a discussion you shouldn't start out the conversation by accusing me of lying on my dick.

    When I say I have had very few bad experiences with a prostitutes in the Dominican Republic, Colombia or Thailand I am speaking truth. My truth. Just because you don't like me saying it does not mean it is not the truth. My truth!

    My truth is the only thing that matters when I am sharing my experiences. Your core argument supports this.

    When I say, that I have not had the problems that other International Tricks write about in the Sosua and Santo Domingo forums during the 10+ years I lived in the Dominican Republic, I am speaking about MY TRUTH!

    By your definition MY TRUTH is the only truth that matters.

    As long as you are NOT accusing me of embellishing or misrepresenting we are good.

    I have a 15 year history of posting here on ISG. The idea that I am embellishing or misrepresenting anything is a laughable idea that is DOA.

    We have individuals that claim they travel the world and get free pussy everywhere they go. That they only hire prostitutes for variety. A argument that makes absolutely no sense to me. Why in the world would pay for something that you can get for free? Unless you are not really getting it for free because you are spending resources in some form that is not money. Time is my most valuable resource. I don't want to spend anymore of it than I absolutely have to meet my objectives.

    I happen to think I am right. We are both International Tricks. We have a basis for a discussion right there based on mutual respect and understanding.

    Is being rushed considered to be bad service?

    That is your opinion It is not a fact. You have not presented a single shred of evidence to support your statement.

    In fact it even contradicts what you previously have written and that that is that individual International Trick defines the quality of the service.

    In my opinion, if a particular International Trick travels all around the world and says they receive nothing but bad service then it is my opinion that it is a problem with the individual. Why? Because they are defining the definition of bad service according to them. It has nothing to do with the prostitutes they encounter because they ALL provide bad service in their mind.

    If I travel to the same locations and have nothing but good service then, my opinion and experiences of those locations will differ. There is no absolute truth in either statement. Because they are based on our each of our own personal experiences and opinions.

    Please review the definition of Fact and Opinion for a clearer understanding of how I use those words.

    Why haven't you addressed this individual? He is posting about the experiences of others all the time. He also posts a lot about bad service.

    In my opinion, it is due to his personality and outlook on life. Very negative. Just because you choose to ignore the point that I am making does not make it any less valid. Although it does point out a hole in your Logic that you can drive a truck through.

    Name the countries Let's see if you have visited the same countries I have and if we individually evaluated the level of service we received differently.

    I would argue that that it depends upon the location. In the Dominican Republic I did not receive bad service. But others reported that they did. Their receipt of bad service does not invalidate my receipt and reporting of good service.

    In fact to me this seems completely abnormal. I don't know you. So I don't have a opinion of you based on your writings. So my honest response is I don't know if the problem resides with you are the locations. What I do know is that your poor experiences do not invalidate my good experiences.

    I've received nothing but good service in Pattaya, Thailand. I think it is a much better place to engage in International Trickin activities. There is more choice, better pricing and less hassle than is found in the puta pueblo known as Sosua.

    Let's return to what you said:

    This is the basis of your argument in a nutshell.

    My definition of good service

    My objective is to nut

    Did I nut? YES! Then the service was good!

    Damn straight!

    I am not saying that I will give you an example from Pattaya, Thailand because it has been years since I left the Dominican Republic and I have no plans to return.

    There are a range of venues that carry different prices in Pattaya. The appearance of the girls in those venues differ. If I happen to like the appearance of girls in Top Tier Agogos (BTW, I don't) then I am going to pay a lot more money than if I am will willing to deal with a girl that works in a Beer Bar in Tree Town. We don't even need to get into appearance preferences or definitions. According to you each individual International Trick determines his likes and dislikes. Those likes and dislikes are going to require different levels of expenditures. If you don't have the money it takes to indulge in the International Trickin activities you prefer it is very unlikely that you are going to get the service you like because in the mind of that individual they are already having to settle for something that they don't want. I proffer that will affect their judgement of whatever service they get.

    My time; My money; My dick; My call!

    Full Stop!

    Your interpretation of what I said is indeed false. What I meant has been given by my example is illustrated above.

    Asked and answered!

    This is your opinion It is not a factual statement. The amount of money needed for to engage in International Trickin activities of your choice depends COMPLETELY on the International Trick in question and what he likes to do.

    Besides you are running the same old argument that has been had here and and many country forums. It is well known that money alone does not get you good service. If that was true the Dis-United States of America would be the best location for International Tricks in the world. We both know that is not true.

    So if it isn't money, what gets you consistently good service like I get around the world? In my opinion, it is my personality and treating the prostitutes I hire with mutual respect as service providers much as I do my mechanic for example. I also know how to interview and vet girls that I might hire as my prospective prostitutes. I only need a girl to give me reasonable access to their holes and I can make my one fun.

    I have given you an example (about price) from Pattaya, Thailand because I don't have any information about current conditions of International Trickin activities in the Dominican Republic.

    I have enough money to pay for the International Trickin activities I enjoy. I ask a girl how much she wants. I tell her how much I am willing to pay and the social / sexual services I want. She either accepts it or not..
    You made a lot of statements that are not accurate and actually misunderstood what I was trying to say in my previous post.

    I want to remind you though that my interest in discussing with you is not to have a pissing contest or to "flex". I don't care about trying to "best" you in a debate. That's not the reason why I'm responding.

    The reason I'm responding to your points is because I need to set the facts straight and not allow you to post false information on a public board when it comes to mongering.

    With that being said, let's address what you've written.

    1) You seem to harp on the statement that I made earlier which is that if a monger visits another country, and he believes that he's received good service on his trip, then he can come to that conclusion on his own and he doesn't need a forum board to tell him that. I agree with that statement. The issue is that you're trying to use this statement in a vacuum and it doesn't work that way.

    The main problem is that you're struggling to understand what "good service" is. Until that's properly defined, you can't actually use the statement I made to hinge any of your points on. You're just copy and pasting words and pointing to them saying "see! This is what you said! It proves my point!" It doesn't though.

    Now, let's move onto what "good service" is, since it looks like you tried to define it in your post.

    2) You've made a fatal flaw in your last post because of how you chose to define what "good service" is. This is important. To you, good service is whether you nut or not. To me, good service is something totally different.

    If mongers adopted your definition of "good service", this would create a bad mongering environment for everyone.

    If every monger's expectation of good service was to just nut, then the women in the area would understand that. What would they do? They would provide service in any which way they want, and it doesn't matter. Because so as long as you nut, the service is a 4-5 out of 5 star service, and the woman can happily move onto the next customer.

    What if during the service the woman came into your room, messy'd up your belongings, ushered you into the shower because she wanted you cleaned up, then brought you back into the room for a quick 15 minute session that resulted in you nutting? And on top of that you paid her 1 x a monthly salary in her area for that service you just received?

    Now, let's take a poll from mongers and ask them if they would consider this "good service".

    This is why your model of, "good service is whether I nut or not", breaks down.

    So really, it's not a matter of "good service" being simply a monger's opinion. It's an acceptable level of service that is dictated by the market participants as a whole.

    My belief is that good service means no rushing and a session of time in which you get to largely control how the pacing of that time goes. That is good service to me. Whether this is what the overall market of mongers believes is "good service", I don't know.

    I do know though, that your model of "good service" has flaws, and that my model is logically sound.

    Furthermore, the reality is that at most mongering locations you go to, you will not receive my definition of "good service" that I am talking about. 80% of the service at most mongering locations will have variables of bullshit that take away from the experience. Yes, you will nut during this service (which explains why you claim you get "good service" consistently), but this is not the type of service I'm talking about. And as we've already gone over before, your model of "good service" has significant flaws.

    3) You say that your truth is the only truth that matters.

    Okay. You should know though that if your only requirement for good service is whether you nut or nut, this will cause the service from the women in wherever you're mongering, to go down (it's easier to make a man nut, than it is to deliver an all around quality experience). If you're okay with doing that to the environment, then sure, go for it. I personally prefer to have a more longer term outlook on how a mongering location is affected down the line. So we'll have to just disagree on this point.

    4) And yes, rushed service is bad service, without a doubt no questions asked.

    Also, I didn't mention that I received nothing but bad service in the countries I've mongered in. This is where reading comprehension comes into play.

    I've been in this game of meeting and fucking women for 10-12 years now. And half way into that I started going international, and since then I've been on perhaps 5-10 international trips, with each trip spanning about 3-7 days.

    So I will admit my international experience isn't as seasoned. But during the trips I've went on, I've met, talked with, and fucked, dozens of women. And since you asked, the countries I've been to are: Canada, Mexico, and the DR. And of course, I've fucked plenty of women in the states, at least 100 women at this point.

    My point is, in each of those countries I've received bad service. It doesn't mean all my service was bad. A MAJORITY of my service was bad (I'm speaking strictly about working girls here, I've fucked mainly sugar babies in the states to which most of them have actually been decent service). I'd say 80% of the girls in international countries have been bad service for me.

    Remember though, me and you have different definitions of "good service". For you, good service is whether you nut or not. That's it. By your definition, 80-90% of the girls I've seen internationally provided me good service.

    By my definition, which is getting a block of time of unrushed service that I largely control, the amount of times I've gotten bad service remains at 80%.

    Two different definitions of good service.

    5) You've touched on a critical point when it comes to pricing.

    You say that if a man wants a girl from a gogo bar in Thailand, he should expect to pay more for her services compared to if he wants a girl from a beer bar. Basically saying that hotter girls will be more expensive, and a monger should take that into account.

    I agree, hotter girls will be more expensive compared to average looking girls.

    What I don't agree with though, is mongers paying well above market rates just because a girl is hot.

    Paying 1 month of salary to a girl you just met for a session of service, just because she's hot, is not a smart idea. The solution isn't to meet the higher pricing demands, which is what you're suggesting.

    The solution is to understand what the market rates are in the area, and know when you're getting price gouged and walk.

    Sure, hotter girls cost more. But then the decision becomes finding a girl whose attractive, but still takes a rate that is more in line with the economics of the environment.

    6) Lastly, you talk about treating women with respect as a way to consistently get "good service". I agree with you. Understanding how to vet women, and being customary is a good way to increase the chances of good service.

    However, you cannot scale your way up to getting consistently good service (under my definition) by just being nice or customary.

    At some point, you must acknowledge the physics of female behavior when it comes to money and sex. And realize that there is a certain "rate limit" on these things.

    Most women in this industry do not have the bandwidth to provide what I define as "good service". That's why the notion of getting this level of service consistently is false.

    7) Ultimately, I think the biggest misunderstanding here is what we define as "good service".

    If we're operating under your definition of just getting a nut, you're right, and I concede the argument to you.

    But I'm only interested in operating under my definition, which would mean you are largely wrong.

  9. #529

    How The Cmdr sees it!

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    If his experiences in various locations are good, then a monger will be able to determine that on his own.
    This is your core argument!

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    In order for us to have a discussion, we must engage back and forth with each other based on truth.
    In order for us to have a discussion you must keep your core argument in mind and not vacillate.

    In order for us to have a discussion you shouldn't start out the conversation by accusing me of lying on my dick.

    When I say I have had very few bad experiences with a prostitutes in the Dominican Republic, Colombia or Thailand I am speaking truth. My truth. Just because you don't like me saying it does not mean it is not the truth. My truth!

    My truth is the only thing that matters when I am sharing my experiences. Your core argument supports this.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    If his experiences in various locations are good, then a monger will be able to determine that on his own. He doesn't need society or a forum to tell him whether his experience in a mongering location was good or bad. Society "shaming" him into thinking what is considered good or bad does not work here. He knows what is good or bad for himself.
    When I say, that I have not had the problems that other International Tricks write about in the Sosua and Santo Domingo forums during the 10+ years I lived in the Dominican Republic, I am speaking about MY TRUTH!

    By your definition MY TRUTH is the only truth that matters.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    Embellishing or misrepresenting how mongering situations go doesn't help anyone. It doesn't help you, it doesn't help me, it just confuses the public.
    As long as you are NOT accusing me of embellishing or misrepresenting we are good.

    I have a 15 year history of posting here on ISG. The idea that I am embellishing or misrepresenting anything is a laughable idea that is DOA.

    We have individuals that claim they travel the world and get free pussy everywhere they go. That they only hire prostitutes for variety. A argument that makes absolutely no sense to me. Why in the world would pay for something that you can get for free? Unless you are not really getting it for free because you are spending resources in some form that is not money. Time is my most valuable resource. I don't want to spend anymore of it than I absolutely have to meet my objectives.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    You may be right, me and you may largely agree on a lot of things, more than we disagree.
    I happen to think I am right. We are both International Tricks. We have a basis for a discussion right there based on mutual respect and understanding.

    Quote Originally Posted by MwenByen  [View Original Post]
    If you never been rushed before in Thailand that means you don't have a big dick then.
    Is being rushed considered to be bad service?

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    However, your notion that if a monger gets bad service everywhere they go then they are the problem, is false.
    That is your opinion It is not a fact. You have not presented a single shred of evidence to support your statement.

    In fact it even contradicts what you previously have written and that that is that individual International Trick defines the quality of the service.

    In my opinion, if a particular International Trick travels all around the world and says they receive nothing but bad service then it is my opinion that it is a problem with the individual. Why? Because they are defining the definition of bad service according to them. It has nothing to do with the prostitutes they encounter because they ALL provide bad service in their mind.

    If I travel to the same locations and have nothing but good service then, my opinion and experiences of those locations will differ. There is no absolute truth in either statement. Because they are based on our each of our own personal experiences and opinions.

    Please review the definition of Fact and Opinion for a clearer understanding of how I use those words.

    Quote Originally Posted by MwenByen  [View Original Post]
    You don't post about poor services because of your Trump deranged ego syndrome. However, I'm pretty sure you receive shitty services all the time.
    Why haven't you addressed this individual? He is posting about the experiences of others all the time. He also posts a lot about bad service.

    In my opinion, it is due to his personality and outlook on life. Very negative. Just because you choose to ignore the point that I am making does not make it any less valid. Although it does point out a hole in your Logic that you can drive a truck through.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    I've been to a handful of countries around the world and mongered there, and at all locations I've been to, I've received bad service.
    Name the countries Let's see if you have visited the same countries I have and if we individually evaluated the level of service we received differently.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    And this is my problem, you did not recognize that this experience is just a part of the game. It's not surprising to go to every mongering location in the world and receive bad service there. I would argue that good service in any location is not common.
    I would argue that that it depends upon the location. In the Dominican Republic I did not receive bad service. But others reported that they did. Their receipt of bad service does not invalidate my receipt and reporting of good service.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    In fact, to me it seems completely normal to have 80% of the service in any location be bad, and only 20% to actually be worthwhile or repeatable.
    In fact to me this seems completely abnormal. I don't know you. So I don't have a opinion of you based on your writings. So my honest response is I don't know if the problem resides with you are the locations. What I do know is that your poor experiences do not invalidate my good experiences.

    I've received nothing but good service in Pattaya, Thailand. I think it is a much better place to engage in International Trickin activities. There is more choice, better pricing and less hassle than is found in the puta pueblo known as Sosua.

    Let's return to what you said:

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    If his experiences in various locations are good, then a monger will be able to determine that on his own. He doesn't need society or a forum to tell him whether his experience in a mongering location was good or bad. Society "shaming" him into thinking what is considered good or bad does not work here. He knows what is good or bad for himself.
    This is the basis of your argument in a nutshell.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    We also have to define what "good service" is.
    My definition of good service

    My objective is to nut

    Did I nut? YES! Then the service was good!

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    You claim that if a man doesn't have "the flow to create the stack you need to engage in International Tricking activities that you enjoy", then they should stay home and put in the work until they get those resources.
    Damn straight!

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    It seems you're saying that getting "good service" (international mongering that is enjoyable) is a problem of money, and a lack of resources.
    I am not saying that I will give you an example from Pattaya, Thailand because it has been years since I left the Dominican Republic and I have no plans to return.

    There are a range of venues that carry different prices in Pattaya. The appearance of the girls in those venues differ. If I happen to like the appearance of girls in Top Tier Agogos (BTW, I don't) then I am going to pay a lot more money than if I am will willing to deal with a girl that works in a Beer Bar in Tree Town. We don't even need to get into appearance preferences or definitions. According to you each individual International Trick determines his likes and dislikes. Those likes and dislikes are going to require different levels of expenditures. If you don't have the money it takes to indulge in the International Trickin activities you prefer it is very unlikely that you are going to get the service you like because in the mind of that individual they are already having to settle for something that they don't want. I proffer that will affect their judgement of whatever service they get.

    My time; My money; My dick; My call!

    Full Stop!

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    This is false.
    Your interpretation of what I said is indeed false. What I meant has been given by my example is illustrated above.

    Asked and answered!

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    More money will not get you more enjoyable international mongering experiences.
    This is your opinion It is not a factual statement. The amount of money needed for to engage in International Trickin activities of your choice depends COMPLETELY on the International Trick in question and what he likes to do.

    Besides you are running the same old argument that has been had here and and many country forums. It is well known that money alone does not get you good service. If that was true the Dis-United States of America would be the best location for International Tricks in the world. We both know that is not true.

    So if it isn't money, what gets you consistently good service like I get around the world? In my opinion, it is my personality and treating the prostitutes I hire with mutual respect as service providers much as I do my mechanic for example. I also know how to interview and vet girls that I might hire as my prospective prostitutes. I only need a girl to give me reasonable access to their holes and I can make my one fun.

    If you having girl problems I feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems and a ***** aint one
    I have given you an example (about price) from Pattaya, Thailand because I don't have any information about current conditions of International Trickin activities in the Dominican Republic.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    In fact, it's the opposite. Being quoted above average rates by girls and actually paying those rates because you have more money, is a common way to ensure you are much more likely to get bad service from the girl.
    I have enough money to pay for the International Trickin activities I enjoy. I ask a girl how much she wants. I tell her how much I am willing to pay and the social / sexual services I want. She either accepts it or not.

    My time; My money; My dick; My call!

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    I acknowledge that you may be approaching this in good faith.
    Maybe? In what other way might I be approaching this? Good faith is not required. The only thing that is required is this:

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    If his experiences in various locations are good, then a monger will be able to determine that on his own.
    Your words!

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    I just have an issue with inaccurate information when it comes to mongering because it significantly sways expectations for anyone who happens to read said information.
    Show me a post where I have provided inaccurate information about International Trickin activities in the entire time I have been posting on ISG and I got the next bottle in the Pattaya Club of my choice for you!

    Your words once again:

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    He doesn't need society or a forum to tell him whether his experience in a mongering location was good or bad. He knows what is good or bad for himself.
    That makes it impossible for anyone to provide inaccurate information if they are sharing experiences and opinions. The only inaccurate information that can be provided is when the information being provided is contrary to the actual facts on the ground.

    I've always said:

    If you come to Sosua and you dont have a good time, its your own damn fault
    But in my opinion there are many more places in the world that are better for International Trickin activities.

    Game goes to Subcmdr! Your Serve.

  10. #528
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Agreed!

    If I post I went to the exact same place and didn't have those experiences then isn't reasonable to expect that I have taken the time to come to that conclusion?

    No that is your assumption. If you even spent a minimal amount reading my work over almost 15 years of posting on ISG I have NEVER told anyone else how to think. It's just that people get pissed when I say the my experiences differ from theirs (remind you of anyone? It does not mean their experiences are invalidated. But since this is a public forum I get to post my experiences just as much as the next guy.

    For the record, I don't make mistakes!

    I've always said that if you don't have the flow to create the stack you need to engage in International Tricking activities that you enjoy then you should stay where you are and put in the work until have the resources you need. Don't underestimate the hate that is displayed by those who want it but don't have it..
    In order for us to have a discussion, we must engage back and forth with each other based on truth.

    Embellishing or misrepresenting how mongering situations go doesn't help anyone. It doesn't help you, it doesn't help me, it just confuses the public.

    You may be right, me and you may largely agree on a lot of things, more than we disagree.

    However, your notion that if a monger gets bad service everywhere they go then they are the problem, is false.

    I've been to a handful of countries around the world and mongered there, and at all locations I've been to, I've received bad service.

    And this is my problem, you did not recognize that this experience is just a part of the game. It's not surprising to go to every mongering location in the world and receive bad service there. I would argue that good service in any location is not common. In fact, to me it seems completely normal to have 80% of the service in any location be bad, and only 20% to actually be worthwhile or repeatable.

    We also have to define what "good service" is.

    You claim that if a man doesn't have "the flow to create the stack you need to engage in International Tricking activities that you enjoy", then they should stay home and put in the work until they get those resources.

    It seems you're saying that getting "good service" (international mongering that is enjoyable) is a problem of money, and a lack of resources.

    This is false.

    More money will not get you more enjoyable international mongering experiences.

    In fact, it's the opposite. Being quoted above average rates by girls and actually paying those rates because you have more money, is a common way to ensure you are much more likely to get bad service from the girl.

    I acknowledge that you may be approaching this in good faith. I just have an issue with inaccurate information when it comes to mongering because it significantly sways expectations for anyone who happens to read said information.

  11. #527

    I only speak for myself

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    Each monger is allowed to spend their time and money going to various countries around the world, and meeting the girls there to determine if the location is worth visiting again or even relocating to.
    Agreed!

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    If his experiences in various locations are good, then a monger will be able to determine that on his own. He doesn't need society or a forum to tell him whether his experience in a mongering location was good or bad. Society "shaming" him into thinking what is considered good or bad does not work here. He knows what is good or bad for himself.

    And if a monger determines that all locations have women that rush services far too often for his liking, then it's reasonable to expect that he's taken the time to come to that conclusion.
    If I post I went to the exact same place and didn't have those experiences then isn't reasonable to expect that I have taken the time to come to that conclusion?

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    Your mistake is that you assume mongers are stupid, mongers are not.
    No that is your assumption. If you even spent a minimal amount reading my work over almost 15 years of posting on ISG I have NEVER told anyone else how to think. It's just that people get pissed when I say the my experiences differ from theirs (remind you of anyone? It does not mean their experiences are invalidated. But since this is a public forum I get to post my experiences just as much as the next guy.

    For the record, I don't make mistakes!

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    At the most basic level, traveling to mongering locations around the world is simply a matter of cost versus benefit. If the cost of going to a mongering location exceeds the benefits that the mongering location provides, then the obvious choice is to not go to that mongering location.
    I've always said that if you don't have the flow to create the stack you need to engage in International Tricking activities that you enjoy then you should stay where you are and put in the work until have the resources you need. Don't underestimate the hate that is displayed by those who want it but don't have it.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    It's completely logical, how do you not understand it?
    I understand that is your view point. But it's not a fact nor logical. On that we disagree. But I understand your opinion and if you actually read my body of work instead of just jumping to a bunch of incorrect conclusions you would see that we really agree on more than we disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by MwenByen  [View Original Post]
    If you never been rushed before in Thailand that means you don't have a big dick then.
    The OP that I quoted gets a lot of push back on his negative attitude. If he approaches hiring a prostitute the same way he posts on ISG I completely understand why he gets bad service everywhere he goes.

    Negativity is a energy draining mood killer.

    Why are you lecturing me? If we all get to evaluate our own experiences then why don't you have something to say to everyone else judging the experiences of others.

  12. #526
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Even after actually living 10+ years in the Dominican Republic I never had the problems that some individuals describe in their posts. A individual who has problems with prostitutes all around the world says more about the individual than it does the prostitutes.

    Could be that some engage in so much self delusion that they do not know what good service is or is not?
    Each monger is allowed to spend their time and money going to various countries around the world, and meeting the girls there to determine if the location is worth visiting again or even relocating to.

    If his experiences in various locations are good, then a monger will be able to determine that on his own. He doesn't need society or a forum to tell him whether his experience in a mongering location was good or bad. Society "shaming" him into thinking what is considered good or bad does not work here. He knows what is good or bad for himself.

    And if a monger determines that all locations have women that rush services far too often for his liking, then it's reasonable to expect that he's taken the time to come to that conclusion.

    Your mistake is that you assume mongers are stupid, mongers are not.

    At the most basic level, traveling to mongering locations around the world is simply a matter of cost versus benefit.

    If the cost of going to a mongering location exceeds the benefits that the mongering location provides, then the obvious choice is to not go to that mongering location.

    It's completely logical, how do you not understand it?

  13. #525

    Speak For Yourself

    You wasn't posting for a long time. Now you're trying to play catch up. I'm pretty sure the reason behind your absence was that a prostitute stole your electronics and wallet and that's it.

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Even after actually living 10+ years in the Dominican Republic I never had the problems that some individuals describe in their posts. A individual who has problems with prostitutes all around the world says more about the individual than it does the prostitutes.

    Could be that some engage in so much self delusion that they do not know what good service is or is not?

  14. #524

    I focus on the facts, the truth and the reality of my experiences

    Even after actually living 10+ years in the Dominican Republic I never had the problems that some individuals describe in their posts. A individual who has problems with prostitutes all around the world says more about the individual than it does the prostitutes.

    Quote Originally Posted by MwenByen  [View Original Post]
    I think that YMMV in this hobby, one thing I can say rushes service and up charging can ruined the mood for any seasoned veteran and that type of shit happens virtually almost anywhere in the world. To be honest the one country I've been to where I felt insulted by a woman trying to up charge me on service was Papua New Guinea a country almost no one has heard of. In Latin America up charging seems to be the norm right along with over charging too. I've reported extensively on shitty service with a so called Big Dick Tax in Kenya and upon my last visit I deduced that the females ruined their on bread and butter. And unfortunately greediness isn't limited to just Africa some guys need to try going to Amsterdam and they'll find out the hard way that after getting in the room with a average looking hooker, she actually wants 500+ Euros for rushed services.
    Could be that some engage in so much self delusion that they do not know what good service is or is not?

  15. #523

    The Dominican Republic they don't want you no mo!

    You know the Dominican Republic ain't shit when individuals who are supposed experts on the place come to the Thailand Threads to troll me with their stories of glory days and personal attacks based on their imagination and self delusion.

    ROTFLMAO!

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