Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Jubby007]

It's not just in London or Central Europe. Not too long ago in Lisbon, a place where of course you're going to encounter a lot of Brazilians, a drop dead gorgeous Brazilian girl had the gall to quote me 700 euros for an hour and a half of "vanilla sex" (see my report for the details). I found that to be an outrageous sum of money for what she was offering and passed. Who the hell in Lisbon, a country where workers earn pretty much the smallest salaries in Western Europe, is paying so much for so little? Well, she said she was visiting from France, so maybe that had something to do with her expectations too. I don't know. I didn't get into "negotiations" with any other girls at that club, so I don't know if her pricing was typical for that particular club, or if it was just her. All I know is that she was barking up the wrong tree with me!

My vacation is coming up in about two months, and whenever I take this type of trip, I usually visit 3–4 countries, mostly in Central Europe. If I'm back in the USA, then I might choose Brazil instead.

This year, since I'm already in Europe, I was considering Lisbon, Madrid, and Barcelona. Looking at the local economy, Portugal's average salary is relatively low compared to many Western European countries. However, what surprised me was the pricing I found when browsing several escort websites.

I noticed many Brazilian women advertising in Lisbon. The same type of service that might cost around €50–€100 per hour in Rio de Janeiro was being advertised for €200–€250 per hour in Lisbon, with even 30-minute appointments around €150. At first, I thought it was just one website, but after checking several others, I saw similar pricing patterns.

What I find interesting is how dramatically prices change simply because the location changes. The same applies in several Central European cities I've visited, including Prague, Budapest, and Bucharest. There seems to be a very large Brazilian presence in many European markets, and the rates are often two to four times higher than what is commonly charged in Brazil.

From a market perspective, it's fascinating to see how supply, demand, local income levels, tourism, and customer expectations can affect pricing. The service itself may be similar, but the market value changes significantly once people are operating in Europe rather than in Brazil.

[The Cane]

I haven't visited Brazil in a few years, but because of work I spend a lot of time in Central European cities such as Budapest, Prague, Bucharest, and others.

One thing I've noticed since COVID is the huge increase in the number of Brazilian escorts working across London and Central Europe. A few years ago, they seemed to be a relatively small part of the market. Today, from what I see, they make up a very large share of the London scene and are increasingly present in cities throughout Central Europe.

In my opinion, this has contributed significantly to higher prices. Many Brazilian escorts are charging London-level rates, and in some cases even more than what local providers charge in the cities where they work. As a customer, I don't think the quality always matches the prices being asked.

What frustrates me most is the loss of variety. When I travel to different countries, I want to experience local culture and meet local people. Instead, I often find the same nationality represented across multiple cities. It starts to feel like every market is becoming the same.

Again, this is just my personal observation from travelling frequently for business over the last several years. Others may have had different experiences, but I've definitely noticed a major shift in both pricing and market composition since COVID.

It's not just in London or Central Europe. Not too long ago in Lisbon, a place where of course you're going to encounter a lot of Brazilians, a drop dead gorgeous Brazilian girl had the gall to quote me 700 euros for an hour and a half of "vanilla sex" (see my report for the details). I found that to be an outrageous sum of money for what she was offering and passed. Who the hell in Lisbon, a country where workers earn pretty much the smallest salaries in Western Europe, is paying so much for so little? Well, she said she was visiting from France, so maybe that had something to do with her expectations too. I don't know. I didn't get into "negotiations" with any other girls at that club, so I don't know if her pricing was typical for that particular club, or if it was just her. All I know is that she was barking up the wrong tree with me!

[Jubby007]

I haven't visited Brazil in a few years, but because of work I spend a lot of time in Central European cities such as Budapest, Prague, Bucharest, and others.

One thing I've noticed since COVID is the huge increase in the number of Brazilian escorts working across London and Central Europe. A few years ago, they seemed to be a relatively small part of the market. Today, from what I see, they make up a very large share of the London scene and are increasingly present in cities throughout Central Europe.

In my opinion, this has contributed significantly to higher prices. Many Brazilian escorts are charging London-level rates, and in some cases even more than what local providers charge in the cities where they work. As a customer, I don't think the quality always matches the prices being asked.

What frustrates me most is the loss of variety. When I travel to different countries, I want to experience local culture and meet local people. Instead, I often find the same nationality represented across multiple cities. It starts to feel like every market is becoming the same.

Again, this is just my personal observation from travelling frequently for business over the last several years. Others may have had different experiences, but I've definitely noticed a major shift in both pricing and market composition since COVID.

[Trojan22]

How does the World Cup impact the termas? Are there less girls working at the termas when Brazil or other South America teams are playing because they want to go party and watch it with their friends somewhere else?

Or does it not really have much of an impact?

[Pokemonger]

I finally was able to create an account, so going to recap while my memory is still fresh of my recent trip here.

Some tips before I begin.

Buy a Claro Flex Pass for data. Way better value than airalo with 15-30 day options and huge GB limits. I exclusively use this every time I visit and have had no issues activating it. Only need passport to create an account.

Install 99 for transport. I've been finding it typically cheaper than Uber, more drivers, and it gives the option of taking a Moto too if you want to save / get to your destination faster.

Get a debit card with no fees like Schwab. Lots of termas like Centaurus, Dolce Vita, and Solarium will try to upcharge you if you pay with credit card. Avoid paying 10% or more by withdrawing in advance.

Now on to the report.

This is my fourth time mongering and second time in Brazil, so at this point I already had a game plan.

I landed June 1st and first destination was the good ol' 4 x4. I like visiting this terma because you can use credit card with no fee, and its entrance fee of 60 reals is much less than some of the other places like Centaurus which is 150, so there's not as much pressure to session. If you do end up sessioning before 6 pm, the fee is waived so that's a nice bonus. Though I like to take my time so ended up never using this LOL.

They usually start pole-dancing around 8:30 PM with additional performances if there's a special event.

Here's how you can best enjoy your trip here.

1. Take your time and relax first. Some chicas will go up to you and ask if you want "companhia", but unless you're interested in them just politely say you'd like to be solo for now. They will get the hint.

2. A bit contradictory, but also make sure to be quick if you see a girl that stands out or is new. More often than not if a girl is popular they won't even need to come to you. If you don't want to waste time, make sure to just go for it if you know for sure you'd like to session with them. If you're too pussy to go up to them, the waiter will also be more than happy to call them over for you.

3. Always screen the girls for whatever you're interested in. I am a big fan of DFK (double french kiss) and BBBJ (bare-back blow job) but not all of them will do it for you. Especially if they are new. Ask first so that you won't have your vibe killed when you get into the room.

4. Google translate is your friend. Make sure you know how to say what you want in Portuguese. DFK in portugese is "beijo de lngua. " The more Portuguese you know the more fun you will have in these types of environments.

5. Hygiene is very important. I usually like to shower beforehand so when I shower later when we session I take even less time. I always make an effort to shower again in front of her when we are in the room even if I am already clean, just so they know they aren't going to suck a crusty dick. I also eat mints and brush my teeth. The girls talk, and if your breath stinks you can say goodbye to future DFK!

6. Prices are 370 reals for 30 minutes and 500 for 1 hour. I typically do 30 minutes if it's my first time sessioning with them because that's usually enough time unless you have high endurance or want to go for multiple shots (not guaranteed unless you ask).

Now on to the chicas.

I see a flakita with a classy light blue dress Monday night and call her over. She looks new, so I ask her when she started and she says a month ago. She also tells me that she is from Niteroi. Lots of the girls live pretty far from where they work. I usually start off with these basic questions just to lighten the mood and get a vibe check. If they immediately tell me that they want to take me up to the room I take that as a bad sign.

Anyway, after all the small talk, I ask her if she's into DFK and would do BBBJ. She says yes, but will only do BBBJ if I do an hour with her. I say FK it since I'm horny anyway and my first day landing so I should treat myself. I say yes and we go up to the room.

She turns out to be a great kisser very passionate and doesn't break away even for extended periods of time. She strokes my dick as I make out and I'm feeling over the moon. However, when she starts sucking it turns out she's horrible at giving blowjobs LOL. As she was giving it to me it almost sounded like she was barfing, and I know it wasn't my dick because I washed beforehand so it was probably her strong reflex. After a couple of minutes I just tell her I'm ready for the main event (listo).

We start with doggy and it's great. She kisses me from behind when we are doing it without prompting which was sexy af. I almost want to cum, but I always like to try all the positions before finishing. If you cum too early, you're not able to maximize the enjoyment of seeing the chica in all angles!

We do cowgirl next and I just admire the view of seeing her be-Cups bounce around, and then we finish in missionary as I kiss her lovingly.

We still had a lot of time even with all the position changes, so we do a little more small talk as I ask her about Niteroi. Then we exchange Whatsapp and that was the end of the night. If you like to session on Sunday or are even thinking about seeing them again, I see this as an important step.

Overall 8/10 would definitely session with her again, but sadly after that I didn't see her again for the remainder of the trip.

This was 1st of the 3 sessions I ended up having at 4 x 4 and this one was probably my favorite. As you can tell I am quite a big fan of the place. It doesn't have the hottest chicas, IMO Centaurus has more blondes, but the price and value ratio is more appealing to me.

Prives can be fun too, but generally the chicas will be less hot, some even just straight up old and ugly, and you roll the dice on whether they will do everything for you besides spread their legs, while in the termas you can always screen them beforehand. Will share more of my stories in sections to avoid giant walls of text.

[Tribute15]

Totally agree. One of my best go to sites in Brazil. Lots of gems at great prices. If you have time to search, its a trove of spectacular bargains. I have beauties from all over Rio for great prices. I found a 19 yrs old who looked much younger and pettier than her pictures. She lives in Nova Iguacu and comes to visit me for 500 reals for 3 hrs. This includes her transport. I have them come from Benfica, Mier, Bonsucesso, Zona norte.

Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copabacbana seems to be the HQ for putas in Copacabana. My modus operandi is to ask for pictures on Whatsapp to compare. If they refuse, I pass.

So many times I got the address as 583 Av Nossa Senhorde Copacabana and had to ask whether they worked in Eden Spa. In my building there were at least 3 putas working out of there. I told one to come down to the reception, and met her up there.

The funniest shit was when I saw to chicas close to my apartment. One was Gaddem fine with a fat ass. I was trying to chat her up and we got to the entrance of the building and she was like, I can't come into the building. I started laughing and told her I was staying there and she didn't believe me. I was walking in with her and he friend goes to call the porter adn the guys come and shakes my hand and says he lives here. We entered the elevator together and they were kinda embarrassed and apologized. Got the fine girls digit, but she was asking for 1 k reals, so I passed.

No bad experiences. I use it all the time. You will get surprises though. But I like surprises. Last time the girl looked better than the person whose pictures she was using. And all for the low 100 reais. It was the same building as Eden Spa and all, but you enter it on the other street. Tons of them are in Nossa Senhora 583 and Siquiera Campos 43. One of them I called the chick out because on the ad she had tattoos, but on the whatsapp pic she did not. I never bother about worrying whether it is verified or not. I just add the whatsapp and ask if they are available.

[Combo]

What exactly does it mean when 4 x4 gets high energy? Simply more people in the room? Louder music? Girls starting to dance? If it's just more people and especially louder, I personally don't think that means it's a better atmosphere.

Well I guess energy is somewhat subjective. One tangible indicator would be the garotas dancing and showing off. Beyond that for me is energetic music, which obviously is a matter of taste.

My point was just that all termas vary a lot from hour to hour, day to day, and week to week. I've had times in 4 X4, Monte Carlo, Solarium, Centaurus, etc where they are loaded with attractive women and the vibe is strong. Then I come back the following day or week and the atmosphere is laid back. And sometimes just an hour makes a big difference.

[Vagabundo1]

https://youtu.be/Vtr-0r71Q5E?si=vRgQ4ZHQfKJhu2qK

Listen to this and watch the lyrics in English.

What exactly does it mean when 4 x4 gets high energy? Simply more people in the room? Louder music? Girls starting to dance? If it's just more people and especially louder, I personally don't think that means it's a better atmosphere.

[Vagabundo1]

A friend in the rich world said it costs 650 USD dollars for an hour with a hot stripper at a strip club. Holy fuuuuccccckckc. That's why 4 x4, and actually the centro prives and so called trash termas, where you do find actual porn stars working.

I would add things start to die down at a termas much earlier than Sao Paulo boates (nightclubs) like Casarao and Scandallo. Particularly with 4 x 4, I would get there at 5 pm or so. Get the lay of the land, have a drink and chat up the talent. However when you feel it with a termas girl, strike while the iron is hot. Sometimes I tell the girl, I am taking her upstairs in a few minutes. That tells them they are not wasting their time. Foreign tourists are generally viewed as a sure thing not a guy looking to drink and grab ass.

Now I did have a hot girl at Monte Carlo tell me she was leaving our nice chat to find a score. I told her I just sat down and I was not ready to go upstairs. She never did find another score, but it was a slow night. I eventually had a nice session with her. For what it's worth, termas 4 x 4 is a lot more fun for hanging around and relaxing than other Rio termas.

A guy might session at a termas and later head to the pick-up nightclubs on the north end of Copa.

[Mr Enternational]

I've never used this site before, since I always go to termas and don't like surprises and like a safe environment. I'm thinking about giving it a try this trip. Has anyone ever had a problem with visiting a girl at her place? I mean getting robbed or set-up for something. I'm only looking at Verified advertisements. Please let me / us know if this is a problem in Rio (or any other cities for that matter). Thanks in advance for your input.

No bad experiences. I use it all the time. You will get surprises though. But I like surprises. Last time the girl looked better than the person whose pictures she was using. And all for the low 100 reais. It was the same building as Eden Spa and all, but you enter it on the other street. Tons of them are in Nossa Senhora 583 and Siquiera Campos 43. One of them I called the chick out because on the ad she had tattoos, but on the whatsapp pic she did not. I never bother about worrying whether it is verified or not. I just add the whatsapp and ask if they are available.

[Wanderer1000]

I've never used this site before, since I always go to termas and don't like surprises and like a safe environment. I'm thinking about giving it a try this trip. Has anyone ever had a problem with visiting a girl at her place? I mean getting robbed or set-up for something. I'm only looking at Verified advertisements. Please let me / us know if this is a problem in Rio (or any other cities for that matter). Thanks in advance for your input.

[Exoticspirit]

Bikini and high heels is still the standard outfit for a termas girl and I love it. Only thing better is the FKKs that have naked with just high heels.

I'd also point out to the OP that 4 X4 can definitely be high energy at times. So many times I've been there and it's pretty quiet and laid back. I take a garota upstairs and when I come back down an hour later, there's a ton of energy with more and different women and the place is poppin.

What exactly does it mean when 4 x4 gets high energy? Simply more people in the room? Louder music? Girls starting to dance? If it's just more people and especially louder, I personally don't think that means it's a better atmosphere.

[Combo]

Or lack thereof! Last time I was there, I found a branca hottie who was taking it in the ass. And she wasn't wearing underwear. She was wearing a Wonder Woman themed bikini. Most of the times I have gone, the girls have been in skimpy bikinis.

Bikini and high heels is still the standard outfit for a termas girl and I love it. Only thing better is the FKKs that have naked with just high heels.

I'd also point out to the OP that 4 X4 can definitely be high energy at times. So many times I've been there and it's pretty quiet and laid back. I take a garota upstairs and when I come back down an hour later, there's a ton of energy with more and different women and the place is poppin.

[The Cane]

I can't comment on the talent as I'm not there but your description of 4 x4 is absolutely the best and most accurate that I have encountered for painting a picture. Irish dive bar with girls in underwear. Yep. That's pretty much the summary! 😂 Can be good fun if you take it for what it's worth and find a hottie in the mix.

Or lack thereof! Last time I was there, I found a branca hottie who was taking it in the ass. And she wasn't wearing underwear. She was wearing a Wonder Woman themed bikini. Most of the times I have gone, the girls have been in skimpy bikinis.

[Steve 9696]

I'm here now, first visit. I was uncertain as to what to anticipate based on prior posts.

Guests are greeted by reception where it's explained:

1) key with a number to track expenses.

2) dress code amounting to "wear whatever you want" (sic).

3) menu listing rooms based on class starting from R500; fee includes room and "date".

4) directions to a locker room, a narrow space from reception with half meter lockers.

5) door leading to what amounts to their lounge with a small standing bar.

The lounge is a space similar to any dive bar in Europe or North America. The green national flags adds to the unintended Irish bar impression.

Nearly every guest with one exception opted for the robe uniform; a thin cheap towel stitched as a robe with small pockets.

I estimate there are exactly a dozen standing women and another half with men seated along the typical padded bench. All in bikinis or underwear. Prior lingerie characterizations are a stretch.

Imagine Irish dive bar with women in plain underwear and bikinis.

The women are not aggressive or pushy, music is present but not loud. It's laid back unlike the club impression I expected based on other posts.

Talent ranges from one petite girl, a third obviously in love with heavy Brasilian buffets, and everything in between. Havent seen any stunners. Mostly white, several tan, I do not see the abundance of dark women others described. I like black women as much as any other. Oddly, saving Asian women who are typically a personal disappointment.

I can't comment on the talent as I'm not there but your description of 4 x4 is absolutely the best and most accurate that I have encountered for painting a picture. Irish dive bar with girls in underwear. Yep. That's pretty much the summary! 😂 Can be good fun if you take it for what it's worth and find a hottie in the mix.