Madagascar

[SouthEaster]

Hey Arnold. You are getting to the point of overthinking and overcomplicating things. I would advise you keep informed until you get there and spend a couple of days getting a feel for the territory, so to speak. It is impossible to describe the place to someone who has never been. It will take a while until you feel you know the ropes (you don't, nobody does!) but things will get easier as you go along. Keep those spidey senses going, but don't let suspicions or fear of the unknown keep you from having a good time.

Enjoy yourself and let us know how it goes.

[Tinte]

As far as I know, there are no brothels in Mada as one might typically describe them. Massage parlours are rare – mostly sports massages with 'extras'. In one hotel, there was a masseuse who offered her services but was reluctant to have sex, so I decided it was best to leave it at that.

The towns and cities have a bar, a karaoke venue or a disco. The girls are self-employed and are guests at these venues themselves. There are apparently no pimps in the traditional sense, but they do exist. Of course, you could also say they're the organisers, the drivers, etc. Often it's the brother, a relative or even the mother.

There's street prostitution and the associated hourly hotels. I had a look at it but decided against it – it was off-putting and expensive.

Verbal and non-verbal communication is everything and guides you to everything, wherever you are.

[ArnoldNe]

Unpleasant incidents involving girls have been and continue to be reported on this forum for years. It is clear that the majority of these cases involved professional prostitutes. That is why there is always a warning to avoid women with such and such characteristics in the described fun places I still visit too.

Of course, this isn't always the case, but it seems to me that there is a cluster of such incidents. Incidentally, this seems to be the case all over the world, in line with the oft-repeated saying that.

'the good times are over'.

One should prepare oneself for this, each according to their own means.

What I really mean is that, with a bit of practice, you'll still find there are plenty of amateurs who really enjoy what they're doing for a little of money.

Thanks for the clarification, although many would disagree I still believe in the old institution of a brothel. While many would say that they force girls into prost'n, I have personally witnessed many girls coming to said places of their own volition (money/ family problems etc etc.) and also leave it when they choose to. The institutions protect the customers as well as the girls, alas those days are passing by and while many girls choose to be Indies of their own will, they lack the professionalism or will of providing a good service for money and instead try to fleece the customers as and when possible as there is no oversight on them. Hence I usually stay away from the Indies kind, however in Mada it seems that it is the only option and hence we need to roll the dice and see what's what.

But I am getting a sense that it is best to invite the girls for a short time only while you are awake and aware, and sleep in peace after they are gone, although this is contradictory to many posts where the girls stayed till the morning. I read some posts which mentioned girls haggling for more money but nothing about stealing etc. Comments welcome to shed more light on this point.

Your's and other's points about non-pros seem like a fun fantasy to me but it is new territory for many as this kind of stuff will get you in trouble anywhere else in the world and unfortuantely that conditioning is applicable to me as well as many others, maybe repeat visits and on ground experience will dissolve those inhibitions but that is a story for later.

I still have few months before I travel to Tana, but it is my first time in an African country, so fingers crossed.

While the clock is ticking till date of arrival, I am doing some window shopping on FB and of the several girls that I sent friend requests few have accepted (about 86 so far), I got into talking with one girl who was moderately attractive and she was ready to meet with whatever I give as a gift, not sure how much faith we can put in these contacts but doesn't hurt to throw stones in water until moment of truth arrives. There was one more girl who said ok, but immediately asked for my photos, even the girl mentioned above asked for it but she wasn't pushy so I shared it after 3-4 days and deleted them immediately. Anyone experienced in this can chime in terms of verification methods before a physical meet is setup, wouldn't want to end up in a trap or scam (I am thinking inviting for a coffee over some neutral territory and take it forward if all goes well, else head back to the punter joints).

[Neddy69]

What if she slaps your stiffening cock away and runs from your room screaming bloody murder? Trying to fuck hotel maids did not end well for Dominique Strauss-Kahn. Why take the risk? Wouldn't paying a prostitute to wear a maid outfit and prance around your hotel room with a feather duster while you chase and grab her from behind with your cock dangling out of your trousers be safer for everyone? In most Western countries, touching the hotel maid's tits and displaying your cock would earn a swift visit and complimentary ride downtown from Mr. John Law. Is this legally acceptable behavior in Madagascar?

Well. I have news for you. This is Madagascar. Not New York. You can shag all the room maids you want. No need to display your cock. When she's hot and she's cleaning your room. Approach her with an offer like fair l amour. Not all but many will agree to have a quickie there and then for 20 k. Why? It's complementing their very meager income. Or a quick blow Job. In fact a good friend of mine who runs a hotel in Tana replaced all maids with men. So they concentrate on cleaning rooms. Not on your dick. Perfectly normal. Also that also applies for sub Saharan Africa. It's perfectly normal if you want a job as a female to sleep with your male prospective boss. TIA.

La Buse.

[Tinte]

Unpleasant incidents involving girls have been and continue to be reported on this forum for years. It is clear that the majority of these cases involved professional prostitutes. That is why there is always a warning to avoid women with such and such characteristics in the described fun places I still visit too.

Of course, this isn't always the case, but it seems to me that there is a cluster of such incidents. Incidentally, this seems to be the case all over the world, in line with the oft-repeated saying that.

'the good times are over'.

One should prepare oneself for this, each according to their own means.

What I really mean is that, with a bit of practice, you'll still find there are plenty of amateurs who really enjoy what they're doing for a little of money.

[ArnoldNe]

At the start of my seven visits so far, I mostly spent my time in the places described as being frequented by prostitutes, and consequently picked up mostly women of that sort. The bottom line is that whenever there were disagreements or trouble, it was always with a rather professional lady. They're first professionals at fleecing you when they want to, and I don't yet have the experience to really deal with that successfully at any time. I simply don't want to get annoyed about that anymore.

That's why these days I give such places a wide berth; having a laugh, a beer or a meal is fine.

So, wherever I go if someone smiles back, I approach them professionally in all forms and respect, and I don't see any legal offence in that. So far. LOL.

Hi Tinte,

I know you are making a point with Chocha Monger, but based on what you are describing it sounds like the working ladies carry a troublesome / fleecing attitude. Are the problematic incidents that you mentioned one off or is it a general trend among the pros.

For as long as I have mongered, I have always found places to repeat are the ones where you feel safe, private and welcomed, it is more the feeling of being special or a king for a night if you will rather than the sex itself. I generally prefer places of action which are away from my hotel room but I understand this not the kind of setup to expect in Mada. But if someone is looking at you like a money bag from which they would prefer to fleece or steal then the whole proposition goes out of window.

If this is a general trend among the pros then would it be better to rent another hotel for the night in question and keep the pros away from your actual hotel / room. Hotels ain't cheap in Tana, else this would have been my go to strategy already, but better this than them stealing something from your room, or tell someone else of your valuables and put a target on your back.

[Tinte]

At the start of my seven visits so far, I mostly spent my time in the places described as being frequented by prostitutes, and consequently picked up mostly women of that sort. The bottom line is that whenever there were disagreements or trouble, it was always with a rather professional lady. They're first professionals at fleecing you when they want to, and I don't yet have the experience to really deal with that successfully at any time. I simply don't want to get annoyed about that anymore.

That's why these days I give such places a wide berth; having a laugh, a beer or a meal is fine.

So, wherever I go – if someone smiles back, I approach them professionally in all forms and respect, and I don't see any legal offence in that. So far. LOL.

[Tinte]

Careful reading and a good understanding of the "text" are also essential here to avoid any misunderstandings.

Once again, the successful completion of the initial, pleasant and communicative usual preparatory work is a fundamental prerequisite here too. I suppose I could often just go ahead and suggest having a shag right here and now, but I suppose I should keep it a bit more civilized and to be able to stop the exercise at any time, for whatever reason.

After that I hold out my open hand to the lady, offering to read her palm, and say, 'I can read palms. ' Spirituality is said to be deeply rooted in her culture; I don't know what significance palm reading holds for her, but it works.

The way the lady offers her hand, and how I can work with her hand, says it all.

Ultimately, the concept is based on an understanding of human nature and on observing whether the hands are well-cared-for and in what condition they are, and whether they are used for physical hard work. In the process, you quickly build a deep physical and emotional bond.

The offhand remark that there are obviously financial worries and the proposal that I can help out with a bit of love is the icing on the cake.

[Chocha Monger]

Even in Madagascar, it's not customary for having sex with the maids to be part of standard room service as a way to pad the household budget. The girls are more likely to get into trouble that way. However, discretion and a thoughtful approach often lead to success. I act cool and uninterested around the staff when they're in groups.

On the other hand, I make eye contact, smile at them, pay them compliments, and shake their hands when they're alone. I ask about trivial things regarding my room or ask for soap. Yeah, I try to distract them from their workLOL.

That's enough to figure out if it's going to work, and if so, I go all in, fast and hard. I touch her breasts and whip out my cockwhich is already getting hardand show it off. Don't forget to close the door first.

I would never offer money up front. If the first attempts at getting close fail, stop immediately. Harassment is also an issue. If she doesn't follow you into the room, stays at the door, or leaves the room during cleaning as soon as you happen to show up after your morning walkit's not going to work out. It saves energy and prevents disappointment in the early, incomplete stages.

What if she slaps your stiffening cock away and runs from your room screaming bloody murder? Trying to fuck hotel maids did not end well for Dominique Strauss-Kahn. Why take the risk? Wouldn't paying a prostitute to wear a maid outfit and prance around your hotel room with a feather duster while you chase and grab her from behind with your cock dangling out of your trousers be safer for everyone? In most Western countries, touching the hotel maid's tits and displaying your cock would earn a swift visit and complimentary ride downtown from Mr. John Law. Is this legally acceptable behavior in Madagascar?

[Tinte]

Even in Madagascar, it's not customary for having sex with the maids to be part of standard room service as a way to pad the household budget. The girls are more likely to get into trouble that way. However, discretion and a thoughtful approach often lead to success. I act cool and uninterested around the staff when they're in groups.

On the other hand, I make eye contact, smile at them, pay them compliments, and shake their hands when they're alone. I ask about trivial things regarding my room or ask for soap. Yeah, I try to distract them from their work—LOL.

That's enough to figure out if it's going to work, and if so, I go all in, fast and hard. I touch her breasts and whip out my cock—which is already getting hard—and show it off. Don't forget to close the door first.

I would never offer money up front. If the first attempts at getting close fail, stop immediately. Harassment is also an issue. If she doesn't follow you into the room, stays at the door, or leaves the room during cleaning as soon as you happen to show up after your morning walk—it's not going to work out. It saves energy and prevents disappointment in the early, incomplete stages.

Another option is to hand the key to the girl personally instead of leaving it at the front desk. That way, you'll get all the necessary information.

Good hunting!

[DrewPL]

Hi everyone! I've been reading through the forum for a few days. Thanks to everyone for the content and information. I'll be staying at an upscale hotel on Nosy Be. Has anyone here ever managed to hook up with a maid? I've read about respect, local culture, and so on. My plan is to start by chatting and leaving a tip; the next day, I'll compliment her on how nice she looks and leave another tip; the day after that, I'll mention I have a fantasy but don't want to offend anyone. If she asks, I'll say I'll tell her the next day. And that's when I'll make my proposition—a nice little break from work for a nice lady. I wonder how much they earn at the hotel? After all, whether I give her 20 k, 50 k, or 100 k AR—what difference does it make to a foreigner?

[On The Road]

You been ever to Mada? I doubt.

Tinder useless. If you look for a girl in the province like Diego, Sambava, Tamatav. There are other websites where willing girls can be found. But in Tana you walk along the road, greet them friendly with a "Bonjour. Ca va" and you are game.

Can I have hints about other websites? I'll be in Diego and around for a while, soon.

Thanks.

[Yapana974]

Hi, I plan to go to Nosy be in September. I'm looking for a nice hotel throughout the party. Are you talking about me about the blue hour? Could I have your opinion to bring the girls there? Thanks.

L'Heure bleue sorry.

[Yapana974]

Hi, I plan to go to Nosy be in September. I'm looking for a nice hotel throughout the party. Are you talking about me about the blue hour? Could I have your opinion to bring the girls there? Thanks.

[Mahku]

Well mate. No place for pussies. I'm 62. I just did a trip on RN4. Just 14 hours. The secret is. Choose the most expensive road transport available. I. e. SOATRANS or COTISSE VIP. I fly only distances in excess of 650 km. No more than 14 hours not in the night. Tana-Tamatave should be around 14 hours by road. If you book early enough I paid 85 flying from Sambava to Tana. And arrive with a lot of time. I live in Madagascar and I have a residence permit. So I have all the time of the world. The rest is down to luck. Even in the dry season now there can be bailey bridges be put out of commission. The Malgache authorities are actually smart. They always have some Bailey bridges ready to be deployed. Mostly it's overloaded trucks. The last one slipped sideways and damaged the bridge. The advantage is that they replace bridges here in a very short period of time. After every rainy season there's several bridges swept away.

La Buse.

What it comes down to is time is more important than money for me. I will choose a one hour flight over a 14 hour roadtrip on godawful bad roads, even if it means paying for it. Even you admit that the 14 hours is really a best case scenario. There can be washed out bridges and who knows what other surprises that turns the 14 hours into possibly a day or more. Even if they have a Bailey bridge nearby and ready to go it has to take quite a few hours or even a day or more to set it up. It's rational to avoid that. While you're still bumping along the road several hours into your journey (and maybe stuck waiting for a Bailey bridge) I am in the sheets with with the jeune fille I've been seeing since last year, or at a table at La Terrasse eyeing who might be next. If that makes me a pussy, I'll take being a pussy every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Africa is not for pussies. It's also not for dummies. And if I were god knows where between Tana and the coast, staring at a washed out bridge, I would wonder why the hell I let Neddy convince me that I shouldn't be a pussy. I'm out here to get where the girls are and maximize the time with them, not to win the dubiously useful approval of some yahoos on ISG for choosing more manly modes of travel.

Don't get me wrong. I admire and respect you for all the information and advice you post on here. But as a fellow 62 year old you have to admit that these things take a toll like they didn't in earlier years. Sure, if the situation calls for it and there's no other way, we can man up and do what needs to be done. But if there are better alternatives and I can afford it, then that's the way I'm going.