Bangkok Reports

[Mr Enternational]

I can't understand going dutch with a thai girl who probably only makes 8-12, 000 baht / month. I expect to pay for meals, transportation and entertainment. Which over the course of a relationship can get pretty expensive. Especially if you're older I would think they'll lose interest if they're not being taken care of.

Shit if they can go out and pay for those expensive ass drinks in the club then why can't they pay a couple hundred baht for a meal? They were going to eat regardless whether or not you showed up. As for transportation, most of my non-pros have cars or motorbikes already. So that is not an issue. But if they didn't a motorbike taxi or regular taxi is all of 50-100 baht each way.

But the point is that if you had a non-pro everyday it would cost you less hard baht (that is actual money out of your pocket into the hand of another) than if you did P4P everyday. As Chill Out was saying you don't go out drinking champagne with a non-pro everyday. You do regular everyday shit that you will only come off max 500-800 baht / day for if that. A pro is going to cost you from 1000-5000 a pop, and that does not include the "courtship" costs associated.

If they lose interest because "they are not being taken care of" then you shouldn't have been with them to begin with. Get someone in your own league that does not just want you for your money. I would think that is the point of being with a non-pro. I'm not showing up to save these chicks by playing Mr. Money Bags. I'm showing up to give them the privilege of being graced with my presence!

[Evianist]

3) Some people (me included) don't go dutch with the "normal" girls and the courtship can be relatively expensive (much more than paying a sex worker if you are not interested in a durable relationship), especially if you are much older than the girls that you want to bed.

I can't understand going dutch with a thai girl who probably only makes 8-12, 000 baht / month.

I expect to pay for meals, transportation and entertainment. Which over the course of a relationship can get pretty expensive.

Especially if you're older I would think they'll lose interest if they're not being taken care of.

[Goyave]

1) Some people pay much less than what you are apparently used to pay for having sex with the local prostitutes.
2) Some people (not me) are happy with just one ST session every couple of days or about one or two per week.
3) Some people (me included) don't go dutch with the "normal" girls and the courtship can be relatively expensive (much more than paying a sex worker if you are not interested in a durable relationship), especially if you are much older than the girls that you want to bed.
4) Most people don't buy any costly gift for hookers, but do that for their regular girlfriend(s).
5) When the regular girlfriend becomes your wife, it often means more costly gifts (a second car, for instance) but also less sex (at least with her) in the long term, and you have many other expenses when you have children together, etc.

That's just a few amongst many reasons why for many people, doing sex workers is, at the end of the day, often less expensive than having a regular girlfriend.

Many good points here, Pro Fesseur!

The more you get older, the less you will be able to score a young and attractive "normal girl". I will be 44 next month and in the Land of Smiles, I regularly have sex with numerous young and cute prostitutes (most of them being in the 18-22 age group) for very little money.

But when I'm back in Farangland, the youngest women with whom I can have sex (apart from prostitutes) are usually over 30, and even if I'm not very old, it would look weird in my country of origin if I were courting a young 18-year-old cutie. And my chance of success would be very slim with her, as I am far than being as attractive as Brad Pitt or George Clooney nowadays.

Moreover, a regular girlfriend costs more than only money, but also some time and emotional involvement, for instance. You must admit that when you have a regular girlfriend, you often do some things with her that you don't really like and would not do if you were single.

With prostitutes, it's very easy for (almost) every guy at any age to fuck various kinds of women, provided that he's got some money (very little in Thailand usually, at least by Western standards). Of course, it's also not very difficult to fuck many different young and beautiful women (almost) for free when you still are a young and attractive guy, but things often change dramatically when you get older. I would love to fuck very young cuties in my country of origin, but it's almost impossible for a guy of my age when no money exchanges hands (somehow, as a nice and expensive gift might do the trick in certain cases).

[Amjeck]

Its very often that non-working girls are more expensive than working girls, once you take in food and drink and other bills.

It depends on the girl. I think we can all agree, however, that non-working girls suck more time and energy from men then do p4p girls. For some, time is money and freedom is bliss, so enter the working girl and life is good.

[Fun Filled]

Day 2.

Slept till after noon and then did normal thing till evening. Around 11 again went to bed super club met a guy from UK it was his 1st time in BKK so I gave him some moral support :P. There were group 4 smoking hot girls enjoying the music and drinks it was hard to tell they were working girls or not. They were not giving any attention of guys. So didn't gave it a try. Help that guy from UK to find a good girl and he was all set. I Moved to Q bar nothing exciting so finally moved to CM2. Saw one hot Uzbaki asked her whats her plan the reply was she already with customer &61516; oh that was disappointing casuse she was really hot almost 10/10. I could not find any thing better or same as her so I was really disappointed and was not really ready to compromise on quality.

It was time for cm2 to close so I moved to Shock 69. I was surprised to see all the non picked girls from the CM2 and bed super club where there. Including the group of girl whom I saw at Bedsuper club. Just approached one of the girls in that group she was 5'7' tall without heel and figure to die for. Smooth skin. Just said Hi and asked her is she interested in going out with me. She quoted 8000 bhats. Well I guess that's nice way to say no thank you I am not interested. Again I was disappointed and keep looking. Suddenly she came to me hold my hand and pulled me toward the bathroom. And told me she generally not go out with guys and she is here cause its weekend. But said that she will go with me and how much I will pay. I said I will pay 2000 short time she said no 3000 thousand I said yes and closed the deal.

She had a perfect English so communication was no problem. Back to my room. And when I saw he in light man I was floored. She got fair baby skin and not a single stretch mark. She told me that she is a event organiser and a part time model. When I told her that I saw her in Bed supper club and was about to approach her but decided not to do that at last moment. She said if I would have approached her there she would have said no to me. Because being a event organiser every 1 know her there. Its just that I like you that's why I am here in you room otherwise I don't go out like this.

She was priceless. For hours we had sex in each and every position. Only disappointing part is that its not easy to find such a fine girl in BKK at that cost. She has set my standard to new high. We exchanged no and she promise me that she is going to call me in afternoon so that we can have lunch together.

[Pro Fesseur]

I don't understand the economics involved here. At 4000 LT or 3000 or even 2000 LT, how on earth could a non-WG be more expensive than a WG? Are you spending 50 or 100 euros every time you meet your normal girlfriend? I certainly don't. I go dutch with my normal girls at all times. And it's not fancy dinners and champagne on a regular basis. For me WGs are way, WAY more expensive that normal girls.

The one case where it wouldn't be so is if you got divorced and your wife takes you to the cleaners, but that's not a fair comparison. Otherwise, on a weekly or monthly basis, WG-to-normal-girlfriend comparison, I don't see how a non WG could be more expensive.

1) Some people pay much less than what you are apparently used to pay for having sex with the local prostitutes.
2) Some people (not me) are happy with just one ST session every couple of days or about one or two per week.
3) Some people (me included) don't go dutch with the "normal" girls and the courtship can be relatively expensive (much more than paying a sex worker if you are not interested in a durable relationship), especially if you are much older than the girls that you want to bed.
4) Most people don't buy any costly gift for hookers, but do that for their regular girlfriend(s).
5) When the regular girlfriend becomes your wife, it often means more costly gifts (a second car, for instance) but also less sex (at least with her) in the long term, and you have many other expenses when you have children together, etc.

That's just a few amongst many reasons why for many people, doing sex workers is, at the end of the day, often less expensive than having a regular girlfriend.

[Chill Out]

I 100% agree! Usually non working girls end up much more than working girl.

I don't understand the economics involved here. At 4000 LT or 3000 or even 2000 LT, how on earth could a non-WG be more expensive than a WG? Are you spending 50 or 100 euros every time you meet your normal girlfriend? I certainly don't. I go dutch with my normal girls at all times. And it's not fancy dinners and champagne on a regular basis. For me WGs are way, WAY more expensive that normal girls.

The one case where it wouldn't be so is if you got divorced and your wife takes you to the cleaners, but that's not a fair comparison. Otherwise, on a weekly or monthly basis, WG-to-normal-girlfriend comparison, I don't see how a non WG could be more expensive.

[Chill Out]

No, you see the test doesn't stop you gettinng AIDS. It just tells you if you were infected with HIV about 6 months ago. Luckily not quite a death sentence these days (at least not for you as a Westerner).

Just for the record, HIV still is very much a death sentence, you just don't die in 2 years like you did in 1985, but in 20. And during the 20 years you have to take very strong medications several times per day, that give you either permanent cold sweat, diarrhea, stomach aches, pimples, dizziness, mental fog, liver issues, or a combination of all and more. It's not a walk in the park.

[Chill Out]

Nobody thinks about casual one night BB pregnancy. You will not even hear about it unless you are in touch with her.

I never keep in touch with one night girls via barfine.

Words fail me. Shame on you, dude.

If you are worried just use the condom all the time.

I do bro. I do.

[Mr Enternational]

Its very often that non-working girls are more expensive than working girls, once you take in food and drink and other bills.

Whilst there might be some warm feeling inside that you can pull, the economics always put me off, I would rather bang and then pay them to go away, as opposed to "paying for them" to get into their knickers.

Having been here over 20 years there are always exceptions and I do have a few that are purely banging for pleasure with no money involved at all. But as a general rule working girls are much cheaper, much less hassle and you can change them whenever you want, and you pay them to go away after the sex.

Like you said there are exceptions. You only come out on the bottom (no pun intended) if you always insist on spending YOUR money. When I go out with non-pros they usually offer up to foot some of the bills.

For instance last night me and my ex-girlfriend went to see Fast 5. I paid 240 for the movie and she said she would pay it next time we went. We then went to Swenson's and she paid 160 for ice creams. And after that she paid 70 for noodles on the street for us. Compare that to a working girl. The 240 I spent with her last night in no way compares to the 1000 I'm giving this hot mamasan (who I met in Candy Shop on Walking Street last night and was later buying me drinks in her bar) when she wakes up or the 3000-5000 guys are accustomed to shelling out for gogo girls on top of lady drinks and barfines. I am in Thailand for God sake. I never spent an equivalent of 5000 baht going out with non-pros in America. And to think there is even remotely some chance of me spending that kind of money on a non-pro in Thailand is virtually impossible unless plane tickets and resorts come into play.

[BionicMan]

. . . Whilst there might be some warm feeling inside that you can pull, the economics always put me off, I would rather bang and then pay them to go away, as opposed to "paying for them" to get into their knickers.

It depends on POV.

I agree on the concept that a non-pro might cost more.

I agree you pay the WG to leave after the deed.

But it all depends on what one is looking for and wants, still without engaging in a permanent relationship.

If one is just looking for digging his little head for some draining plumbing job, then obviously the "wam-bam-thank-you-ma'am of 20 minutes" is the perfect solution.

But you can pay also to get a little bit more (and maybe you need to pay more or different rates)

But you can also spend money to enjoy a few hrs in nice company, eating and drinking and dancing and ending up in bed.

Each one his own

[Macho Dik]

Its very often that non-working girls are more expensive than working girls, once you take in food and drink and other bills.

But as a general rule working girls are much cheaper, much less hassle and you can change them whenever you want, and you pay them to go away after the sex.

I 100% agree! Usually non working girls end up much more than working girl. Not to mentioned if feeling is involve at the end.

Best is to take different girls every night and no string attached.

I like this phrase" you pay them to go away after the sex"

Cheers,

MD

[Macho Dik]

You can go to shock69 after 2 or 2:30 when all the gogo and clubs are open. Its a disco and its open till 5 in morning. Whats good about this place is all the girls working in gogo, bars or massage parlours move to this disco after all other places close down. Lot of good stuff is available.

Just enjoy and do report back.

During My last visit to Bangkok, I happened to me a guy in Bacarra and he has mentioned to me once about a certain disco that mostly all the gogo girls went after closing time of their bars. I really can not recalled that name of the disco, if shock 69 is the one, then I do hope that in my next trip, I will certainly go to find the last catch of the day.

Cheers,

MD

[PinkPearl]

Lately the BIB have been making multiple nightly raids on the NEP area SWs. They have been hit up before for years for the 1000 Baht fine, if they can't outrun the officers, but not at this frequency. I've been told as many as 6 times in an evening. Consequently some girls are adjusting to this problem by coming earlier in the day, not being so obvious in their intentions, working in bars or leaving BKK to try their luck in Phucket, etc. This is good news for guys wanting some late morning to mid afternoon action as an appetizer for the late activities.

[The Pro]

You don't "score" a hot girl here. You buy her services. But there are civilians too. I once scored a hot thai here, almost, but gave up when I saw my drinks bill sky-rocketing and when she (and her 2 frnds) wanted to go elsewhere to conitnue drinking, I bailed out.

Best time would be 11pm. The place gets going about midnight. Closes at 2am.

The common price is closer to 10, 000 Baht. (for the super hot ones, and they won't drop below 8000) Yes there are those that go down to 4000-6000, but they can be found at Grace, Spicy, Bossy etc.

Its very often that non-working girls are more expensive than working girls, once you take in food and drink and other bills.

Whilst there might be some warm feeling inside that you can pull, the economics always put me off, I would rather bang and then pay them to go away, as opposed to "paying for them" to get into their knickers.

Having been here over 20 years there are always exceptions and I do have a few that are purely banging for pleasure with no money involved at all. But as a general rule working girls are much cheaper, much less hassle and you can change them whenever you want, and you pay them to go away after the sex.