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[WestCoast1]

The withdrawal method was espoused by two of the ladies I met. Pretty sure my formal high school sex education classes debunked the effectiveness of that. These women were in the 30-35 age group.

Another one I heard was the concern about pregnancy more than catching any STI. These came from 22-24 age group. They know about condoms to stop pregnancy but unsure about how condoms can reduce incident of STI.

AJ

This should not come as any surprise, as there is no sex education in filippine schools. Many people of all ages are filled with odd superstitions there.

[GregLondon]

I enjoyed your update on the pitfalls of helping ISG people out. It really has to be a buyer beware, make your own fun, type of arrangement. The forums are full of people with good stories, bad stories, flaky women and even flakier punters.

I'm not sure that this can be reliably predicted. Many men care about their health. In my short couple of visits to Cebu I have been offered bareback by the women. I only want to to have sex with condom which they don't always enjoy as much. I am surprised at the lack of contraceptive and STI education.

The withdrawal method was espoused by two of the ladies I met. Pretty sure my formal high school sex education classes debunked the effectiveness of that. These women were in the 30-35 age group.

Another one I heard was the concern about pregnancy more than catching any STI. These came from 22-24 age group. They know about condoms to stop pregnancy but unsure about how condoms can reduce incident of STI.

Anyway, I think many men can be easily presuaded if the girl is willing to go without. These guys have to understand that that is a decision by the pinay without education.

AJ

Yes I'm afraid this is becomes a heated topic on which people have strongly held views so all I would wish to do is put forward my personal perspective rather than enter into a slanging match with anyone.

It's certainly true that maybe 90% of the sex these girls have with their Phil BFs is without a condom relying mainly on the withdrawl method. As a result maybe 65% of the girls on DIA are single mums as the Pinay BF almost always disappears as soon as the girl says she is pregnant. When a girl does get preggie here there is real heartache re abortion which is illegal here. There is often denial fro 3 or sometimes 6 months. One of my GFs from last year had a fat Christian goody 2 shoes tutorial partner who collapsed one day at the Catholic college they attended. She was takento hosital and they found she was 7 months pregnant and needed an emergency caesarian or she or the baby might die. This being the Phils no money no operation and her family had no immediate funds so guess who had to "lend"her the funds. Anyhow at least they both survived the baby was under 3 pounds I think so not sure how healthy long term. Her 19 year old sister came around to "repay" the debt plus earn some money so that the hospital would release the baby (typically the hospital will hold the baby hostage until all the bils are paid). Many times the girls try to find abortion piulls but its diffcult to be sure they get non fake drugs or advice as to exactly how to take them. If things go very wrong as they did with the brother of another one of my ex GFs who her mum tried to abort late in pregnancy you can be left with a mentally handicapped kid. All in all its a VERY BAD scene. I think the bare back guys are opening themselves up to the "darling I'm pregnant" can you marry me / support me etc etc risk. Sometimes the guys just cut and run at this point. I've also known guys who bit the bullet and married really very, very unsuitable girls and plenty end up sending $300 a month for a long time to support a kid that may or may not be theirs.

Re STDs of course condoms can only reduce not eliminate the risk. This is a message much promoted by the Catholic church : condoms are not 100% effective etc which is interpreted as OK no pioint in using them, despite the fact that they might be 99% effective. Almost all guys will swear blind that they are "clean" which they may or may not really believe but then what of the 10 or so bar / Mango girls he might have fucked bare back during the last 2 weeks? I take it with the same pinch of salt as the belief of 90% of guys that they have a bigger than average cock or are great in bed. Again my experience is that quite a few girls do pick up STDs who knows whether its from ISG type contacts or Pinoy BFs but almost invraiably they don't have the funds / knowledge to get early treatment so it can get quite bad before they finally get treatment.

[Aussie Jo]

I enjoyed your update on the pitfalls of helping ISG people out. It really has to be a buyer beware, make your own fun, type of arrangement. The forums are full of people with good stories, bad stories, flaky women and even flakier punters.

The other problem for me is that maybe 50% of the guys on ISG are into bare back sex which means that girls caneasily pick up STD s if they go with too many of the guys from ISG.

I'm not sure that this can be reliably predicted. Many men care about their health. In my short couple of visits to Cebu I have been offered bareback by the women. I only want to to have sex with condom which they don't always enjoy as much. I am surprised at the lack of contraceptive and STI education.

The withdrawal method was espoused by two of the ladies I met. Pretty sure my formal high school sex education classes debunked the effectiveness of that. These women were in the 30-35 age group.

Another one I heard was the concern about pregnancy more than catching any STI. These came from 22-24 age group. They know about condoms to stop pregnancy but unsure about how condoms can reduce incident of STI.

Anyway, I think many men can be easily presuaded if the girl is willing to go without. These guys have to understand that that is a decision by the pinay without education.

AJ

[GregLondon]

Hi GL, you don't post much lately so good to hear you're still out there having fun and helpin' people make friends. Several times I've had morning flights out of Cebu and on the way to the airport I am amazed at the huge number of ladies on their way to work at MEPZ (did I spell it right?). I keep thinking I should spend a few days in Lapux2.

Yes I'm back in town and you are right I am much more circumspect about helping out guys with contacts etc than I was before. Or posting details of my somewhat unorthodox set up. (You and one or two other senior mebers have every right to call Ï told you so" on that one.) The problem is that there is not much upside and plenty of downside in trying to help people out. Eg Guys often hold you semi responsible for how things pan out with the girls even if you arejust doing them a free favour and there can be no guarantees also in a couple of cases girls I have thought I knew quite well and could recommend did some bad stuff eg one or two things stolen etc. The other problem for me is that maybe 50% of the guys on ISG are into bare back sex which means that girls caneasily pick up STD s if they go with too many of the guys from ISG.

I do have quite a few nice girls here and am happy to help out guys who are genuinely looking for a wife or newbies wanting a nice holiday GFE etc but not the many guys here who are just looking to fuck as many girls as possible who are more than cabale of finding their own contacts LOL.

[X Man]

Hi GL, you don't post much lately so good to hear you're still out there having fun and helpin' people make friends. Several times I've had morning flights out of Cebu and on the way to the airport I am amazed at the huge number of ladies on their way to work at MEPZ (did I spell it right?). I keep thinking I should spend a few days in Lapux2.

I'm based in Cebu City now, I'm coming accross a few hot prospects based in Lapu Lapu. It's too much hassle / too far to ship them to Cebu City given the availability of girls in Cebu City so I'm happy to pass along contact details or mention I've got a friend in LL. I've not met these girls in person so no guarantees but I'm only interested in 18-30 slim girls with no kids so they wil have passed that test. PM me if interested.

[GregLondon]

I'm based in Cebu City now, I'm coming accross a few hot prospects based in Lapu Lapu. It's too much hassle / too far to ship them to Cebu City given the availability of girls in Cebu City so I'm happy to pass along contact details or mention I've got a friend in LL. I've not met these girls in person so no guarantees but I'm only interested in 18-30 slim girls with no kids so they wil have passed that test. PM me if interested.

[Frenzy3]

100% agree. I have done somewhat simular things in manila where a friendly ex bar girl has fixed me up with lots of her non bar friends but nothing like what Levdog describes. This were largely freebies or 500. 1000 peso fucks in manila with some small gift to my friend. If you analyse the text better after the commission of the "pimp" and the girls cut it works out that Levdog is probably overpaying in Cebu. Yes he is getting fresh girls but it takes only one incident for the whole situation to turn on his head. I hope Levdog is smart enough to move around often and has not given his real name to the hotel and girls. Gifts such as phones to girls that don't own one is asking for trouble. The phone will not go unnoticed at home and then the trouble will start.

Levdog I wish you all the best, I hope you are not taking this the wrong way, make sure you take extra care.

Happy mongering.

Mc don I would not advise some one to keep breaking the law and that he will alright if moves around ans give false names, they have a way of doing things in PI, they are called "set up", I would recommend any one reading this to follow the laws, it really is a small world in cebu, as you pointed out giving new girls phones starts people talking, I always use the line I will pay you for your time (just like the bar fine system) , and then it is on me if they just leave, he saying he only pays for results will get up some one nose and land him in hot water.

As I said there are ways of doing things here and people who already run the risk and they get paid for a reason, do not mess with it.

[Mc Don]

i do not think this guy means " pimp " in the pimp sense. it is just that once you meet girls and give them enough incentive by way of money and gifts they will bring their friends or relatives to make more money.

caution in this are there could be many **** girls which is hard to know. another thing is if any of girl's relatives or neighbours find out what this guy is doing it will be a big problem.

in philippines everybody watches everybody especially in cebu. do not believe these girls keep their mouth shut. sooner or later words get around that there is a foreigner seducing all teenage girls by money and.

gifts (in his own words ).

having been to cebu many times it is not a good idea to do what this guy is doing. keeping couple of contacts and having few girls coming over should be ok. but to get as many girls as possible using teenage.

girls will definitely get him in trouble. cebu is a small place compared to manila.

it is not a country where everybody minds their own business. philippine people are somewhat tolerant when they see foreigners with young girls although they comment and sometimes curse. my gf tells him what they are saying since i do not speak tagalog or visayan. and those comments are outright offensive and threatening. imagine one these school girls this guy is having sex with tells her folks about it when questioned?

he should really watch out and keep his activities under the radar.

100% agree. i have done somewhat simular things in manila where a friendly ex bar girl has fixed me up with lots of her non bar friends but nothing like what levdog describes. this were largely freebies or 500. 1000 peso fucks in manila with some small gift to my friend. if you analyse the text better after the commission of the "pimp" and the girls cut it works out that levdog is probably overpaying in cebu. yes he is getting fresh girls but it takes only one incident for the whole situation to turn on his head. i hope levdog is smart enough to move around often and has not given his real name to the hotel and girls. gifts such as phones to girls that don't own one is asking for trouble. the phone will not go unnoticed at home and then the trouble will start.

levdog i wish you all the best, i hope you are not taking this the wrong way, make sure you take extra care.

happy mongering.

[Cuchulain]

Things I do during the day in cebu.

It is actually nice to read real reports and information for a change. Once people start reporting and we quit talking about bs stuff, we actually gert some great information on here!

The old silver dollar is called the Maverick I have not been there yet but will be trying it in April when I arrive. I have been to the silver dollar many times and it was where I bar fined my first girl in cebu.

During the day this is what I spend some time doing.

1. Right next to the sogo downtown there is a massage parlor to the right, green sign and you have to go up the stairs.

Full body 1 hour massage is I think is 110 pesos, under $3 us dollars, they never offered extra service and I never tried. I have had many massages there.

2. I get a pedicure, manicure, hair cut at least once a week 50 pesos each on average.

3. Robinson Mall. It caught on fire the day I arrived last time, but this was going to be where I was going to spend some quality time picking up girls, there are freelancers here during the day being so close to mango. I think you might have luck on the upper levels waiting for foreigners to come accross on the footbridge. I have not had much luck at ayala during the day, I think early evenings later in the week and saturdays are the best times. I have picked up women at ayala but not as many as I should of for how much time I have spent there. But I am usually gone by dark. Sm mall I have had zero luck and I do not know where the spots are to pick up woman there. Hopefully someone will share that info.

4. Downtown street walkers. Around the cebu century hotel there are street walkers (or standing) during the day. Be careful theses girls are usually on drugs and most I wouldn't fuck with your dick. Wrap it (twice)! I have seen gems down here though.

Also if you stay on century hotel side of the street right in front of the Jollibe there are tons of street walkers on this side of the street all the way down to the end on the corner. Most work out of the hope hotel just around the corner. Most are pretty nasty and can be had for a few hundred pesos. Again be more than careful down here. This is the bottom of the barrel and. But if your bored and downtown you can do a little looking.

5. You can also get extra service downtown. There is a place that looks like a barber shop downtown. Almost directly across the street from the cebu century hotel. I have never seen anyone getting a hair cut here, but you can get a BJ for about 500 pesos if you negotiate very very well. I have only been in there one time. I am sure there are other places to get services during the day. I just have not found them yet maybe someone will share.

6. I know lots of guys walk around collecting phone numbers to text girls to see if they can get a hookup later that night.

I drink very little so I am not uaually suffering from a hangover in the morning, so I am always looking to stay busy during the day as well. I am sure. I hope otrers can add to the list of things to do.

I hope this helps a little.

[Redman69]

Well the old Silver dollar bar on Funtes circle. I do not know the new name. Opens at 12 am. Serves lunch, And you know sogo and queensland. The girls will know where to tell the taxis. 1800 peso fine. 350pesp for 3 hours qeensland I belive. I would take two in htat short a time and keep them working. Make sure they know it is 3 hours and not one pop. Same price for lt. They will be happy. Give them taxis fare back to Silver dollar and flag down a cab and be on your way.

Based on your design that is what I would do. Ask what the new name of the silver dollar is. Our goggle it and the place will come up on 20 sites for location purposes. Get to Robinson Mall next door at 10 am. Window shop there for something to do. Then hit silver dollar if nothing is bought before hand. RED

[Pedro606]

I will soon be in the Philippines!

Too difficult to go into everything as to reason why etc but I will only be in Cebu from time to time during the day. I will be arriving by ship about 7am and leaving that same evening about 7pm.

I have heard of a few short time hotels I could use like the Sogo and one that has themed rooms. I am just wondering the best place to pick up a decent enough girl. Not looking for show stoppers just a decent one- I am sure you know what I mean. Only for about 2 to 3 hours.

Any ideas of the best place to wander around to pick one up.

A few years back I was walking around near some cinema- cannot remember exactly where but in the dwontown area. I got a nice girl about 23 and she was accompanied with an older woman (not in the room!) and went to a very small hotel which I recall years ago was a massage place. Paid 200 pesos for room and gave girl 500 pesos. Was a bit put off finding out she had bad stretch marks!

Anyone got any suggestions etc.

Many thanks!

[Member #4491]

A rookie knows little about filipina jealousy and how to deal with tampo situations and is not familiar with some of the childish behavior, and if he gets himself involved with a young socialite woman do you really see it working out? I don't. If a girl feels rightly or wrongly that she has been scorned and lied to and is in tears, what rich well connected father wouldn't ease her pain and make a few calls to send the guy packing. I am not saying that's what will happen, just something for the guy to think about.

Yes you are probably right Stroker Ace88. As an advice to a first time visitor to any culture, it is probably wise to suggest not to target the pickiest ones in a specific society. It is much easier to fail and if you bend the truth to actually do get Miss Hilton in to bed, you must be prepared to handle a possibly stronger reaction to the revelation of the truth, than you would get from a desperate squatter girl.

If you run into them. Fine, but I see no direct point in targeting "upper class / rich girls" specifically, unless one either has a struggling ego that needs it, or the naive idea to benefit from these relations financially. An important addition to the claim I often do that "there are all types of people everywhere", is that the concentration of a specific trait do vary quite a lot. The normal distribution slides on the X axis so to speak. Many of these princesses are just as childish and shallow as any other pinay, but prideful, smug and vain. Obnoxious to listen to for more than a few minutes and quite an explosive mix if you light the fuse. Intelligence does not correlate with the size of daddy's wallet, so if that is the objective it is better to focus on student groups or specific professions. Once again and as you suggest Stroker Ace88, there is no real point in targeting upper class / rich girls IMHO.

I know it is a generalization but in my experience IT students often tend to be sharp. This education cost a little bit more so many of these girls are from families that are not totally poor. Teacher (students) quite often also offers some sort of intelligent conversation after sex, but many of these girls are dirt poor it seems. The H&R students are often homely and want to cook after sex. Simple and caring girls as far as I experienced. The nurses I had where from all over society and all where, without exception, horny caretakers that had a relaxed approach to sex and bodies.

I noted that probably 98% of passers-by dragged their feet, whether they were plastic slippers (thongs / flip flops) , rubber shoes (sneakers) and especially that variety of heeled shoe that girls wear by inserting the toe into the front section and the back portion flaps free and makes a clickety-clack sound.

LOL, yes it can get on my nerves as well sometimes. According to wikipedia,"synesthetic experiences can have measurable behavioral consequences", and I wonder if my synapses aren't tuned into the sound of high heel shoes not being properly walked in. When Farfalas opened in Davao the girls where all dressed in rather stylish suits with semi high heels. Unfortunately Selina (or whatever her name is) forgot to instruct the girls to lift their feet. Especially one girl would sort of slide around in the restaurant with slightly bent knees and just small lifts, making an annoying schwish sound followed by a clonk when the heel hit the floor. This girl never stood still and she produced a hypnotic schwish klonk schwish klonk schwish klonk, all night through starters, dinner and desert. .

B.

[Aussie Jo]

My experience with the malls, like yours, was equally dead. Maybe I was in the wrong part of Ayala Mall. People keep talking about the "terraces" there. I don't recall any terraces. Then again, I didn't exactly walk through the entire mall either.

The Ayala Terraces area is that outside courtyard lined by restaurants. Sitting around the large tree in the middle on one of the benches by yourself is a good place to start. Others have mentioned sitting at any of the cafes at an outside table by yourself. Also the area around the outside elavators seems to be poplar for eye contact.

[Buko Max]

One of them came back a bit later after meeting another guy for a drink. By the time she came back an hour later a guy had been shot dead just outside Pizza Hut.

Unfortunately shite happens! During Sinulog, a group of Italian touristas were being robbed at gunpoint and one of them put up a fight. He did not live to tell the tale. But Cebu still has a low murder rate per capita.

[Buko Max]

Of particular interest is a comment half way down the report,"At least one adult online forum identifies the White Castle KTV Bar, which is located in Barangay Pusok, as a place to pick up girls."

It was more then likely a Korean fourm since most of the customers are Korean and the like. A few years back I did mention the place after I visited but have not seen anything about this KTV on ISG since.

Yes sounds like they missed their payments. Being in that business, I'm sure they took every measure to make sure all their employees were of legal age. Dental exams are not very accurate and can be off by as many as two years!