Berlin

[Nille Copenhagen]

Hi,

Where would be the best place to hang out in berlin? Both from a punter and just as a general bar and restaurant?

I hang out at the bars and restaurant of Artemis.

[Marlboro Red]

Hi,

Where would be the best place to hang out in berlin? Both from a punter and just as a general bar and restaurant?

[Rocketboy0]

Well are you guys planing to spy on my dick from a drone when I'm visiting Grand Plaza? LOL.

We said a drone, not a microscope.

[Nille Copenhagen]

Mmmm. Technology also went a long way since we started discussing this. We might ask our common friend for help, it can't be more difficult than driving a T-80. But, yeah, she might be busy right now. LOL.

Cheers.

Well are you guys planing to spy on my dick from a drone when I'm visiting Grand Plaza? LOL.

[Zumboit]

There seem to be no recent accounts of La Folie. It seems like it could be good. Anyone have recent experience there? Are girls fully nude? It says so on the site, but old reports mention g strings, as it seems from photos from their site. Could one hope for young thin girls, BBBJ, CIM?

[Kimino]

Kimino -this Grand Plaza thing might finally be the catalyst for the drone project we have discussed for years. Perhaps we should put it out on Kickstarter??

Mmmm. Technology also went a long way since we started discussing this. We might ask our common friend for help, it can't be more difficult than driving a T-80. But, yeah, she might be busy right now. LOL.

Cheers.

[Ameribi]

After my last adventure around the city of random luck and chance, I decided to return to a place where I'd been before, felt like I had more control and the prices reasonable. Freudenhaus-hase.

I've been here before and each time my visits were great. Nothing mind blowing or anything, but the sex was good, the people friendly, and the prices reasonable. Even the older woman who greets you is nice. I've learned that it's best if I'm the one making all the decisions, and I have free movement to look and choose whom I want, not who is presented to me. The whole "wait here and the girls will come to you" thing is awkward in my opinion. Working through the greeter is annoying, and it's too easy for them to say 'Oh they don't do this or that or don't speak English, etc. ' At Freudenhaus-hase those available wait in their doorways and you are free to walk around, talk to them, and make your choice. I feel like this gives me better control and access.

This time around I enjoyed Sara, a rather attractive, tall Bulgarian with lovely natural b's. I was in awe of them, and her website photos do not do her justice. She has a nice face. I love A's and be's, any more than see's and it gets out of control. Sara's were very nice. Sadly her English was not so good, but we made it work. Because she's tall in the legs she can ride quite well. Her skin is smooth, her butt is a little boney, and she's quite thin, but that's how I love them. She has good teeth too. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but when the girl smiles, if she's got bad teeth it's a bit of a turn off for me. Sadly she does not kiss. Sara made a good effort at conversation with her limited English. At first she was a little down and meh, seemed tired, but by the end she was giggling and more open. Perhaps shy?

I've attached her photos from the website.

On the blow job, we started with condom, but she wouldn't go any further than the condom. It rode up a little and so she kept the sucking shallow, with not much dual suck and hand action. So I asked and she agreed to go french without condom, and said I could pay her afterward.

Of all the women I've had in Berlin, I'd say Sara has been the best on the low end. Thirty minutes, French without, €55. Halfway through I had the thought to extend to 45 minutes or longer, but that would've required her to stop and take the money to the house lady / greeter. So there's a lesson for you when visiting Freudenhaus-hase: Choose carefully the time and everything you want, so you can pay and get that all taken care of ahead of time.

FYI, I saw Liza, and she's exactly as her photos.

That wraps up my latest Berlin trip. Many lessons learned, but at least I had fun.

[Ameribi]

Ameribi-a dreadful tale but good for gou to report it. But the Forum has warned about the O street scene for years. You can always get lucky or hosed. The odds say avoid. You have sadly reconfirmed it. Impossible to say re Europasalon, you probably made the right call. Berlin has about 4 price tiers of brothels. The middle 2 are IMHO the sweet spot re value comfort safety. But obviously when you play with fire in dodgy neighborhoods during dodgy hours,you can get burned. Kind of common sense 101. With hundreds of great girls in safe, clean locales, the appeal of all this Nick Danger stuff is really a mystery to me. It does of course offer the possibility of a Darwin Award. What price glory?

For late night follies Mon Rouge or even better, Artemis tough to beat. You would gave saved a lot of money, time, and pride at the latter.

Rocketboy0,

You're absolutely right. I come here twice a year on business and this was only my second trip into the scene. I learned the hard way but lessons taken to heart. I'm already planning the next trip to center around a place like Artemis.

[Rocketboy0]

Kimino -this Grand Plaza thing might finally be the catalyst for the drone project we have discussed for years. Perhaps we should put it out on Kickstarter?

[Rocketboy0]

Ameribi-a dreadful tale but good for gou to report it. But the Forum has warned about the O street scene for years. You can always get lucky or hosed. The odds say avoid. You have sadly reconfirmed it. Impossible to say re Europasalon, you probably made the right call. Berlin has about 4 price tiers of brothels. The middle 2 are IMHO the sweet spot re value comfort safety. But obviously when you play with fire in dodgy neighborhoods during dodgy hours,you can get burned. Kind of common sense 101. With hundreds of great girls in safe, clean locales, the appeal of all this Nick Danger stuff is really a mystery to me. It does of course offer the possibility of a Darwin Award. What price glory?

For late night follies Mon Rouge or even better, Artemis tough to beat. You would gave saved a lot of money, time, and pride at the latter.

[Nille Copenhagen]

Thanks Nille. Let's PM when we go visit, if it happens in the same dates we might go together, and share the Limo LOL.

Cheers,

Kimino

Sure Kimo, let us see when the Club is open.

[Rocketboy0]

Ah, if that is the case, are there any other FKK or FKK likes in Berlin given that Artemis is a bit off?

Well a couple of guys think it is a bit off. Depending upon the day, between 300-500 other guys who go there daily think quite differently.

The idea that "that is the case" is absurd. All sexual experiences are highly subjective and not everyone will Artemis their cup of tea. Fine. Everyone can have their opinion (I have always found Oase hopelessly overrated, and Palace underrated). In any FKK, there are worse and better days, varying also by season. Mongers also themselves can have bad days, no matter where they are. Whether it was me, or them, I have left Artemis occasionally un-gepopped as nothing seemed right. It simply happens.

I would be the first to agree that there are many hot girls working in the private apartments in Berlin. But really, it is a red wine, white wine thing. The two experiences are different for obvious reasons. Insomnia or Erlebnis Wohnung or Caligula or King George are other variants. To each their own...

Like many FKKs, Artemis thins out during summer. According to a number of regulars, It seems to have been particularly thin the 3rd week in August, probably with many taking off pre-IFA. At the moment, IMHO, the Artemis lineup is pretty dang good.

But what is off is going on and on and on about this here, in the Berlin forum, vs the dedicated Artemis forum (ISG thread 2588), where it belongs. So if you need to flog this dead horse, you know where to take it.

[Marlboro Red]

I agree! I am North American, but enjoy FKKs when I travel to Frankfurt. But my experiences at Artemis have never met expectations compared to, say, FKK Oase. It's probably different for regulars, but I've never had a great GFE experience at Artemis. Lately I've had much better experiences at Liberty or KD, than at Artemis. So, may bypass the FKK when I am in Berlin next month.

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Ah, if that is the case, are there any other FKK or FKK likes in Berlin given that Artemis is a bit off? I do like the relax atmosphere of a FKK where you can chat with the girls before taking one to a room.

[Ibrahimovic]

Correction: I got the streets mixed up for Lady Discreet, this brothel is situated in Spandau.

[Ibrahimovic]

Ameribi: thanks for the info.

Does anyone have any recommendations of good and safe apartment brothels to visit late at night? Many of the most talked about brothels close quite early. A few that seem to be open; Salon Pankow, Club Lala (Neukölln), Club Carena (Friedrichshain) and Lady Discreet (Prenzlauer Berg). Any of these areas that might be particularly unsafe?