Sosua Reports

[Charles Pooter]

My friend and I are staying at Blackbeards (2 deluxe rooms), it seemed an easy safe place for a couple noobs like us. ... Any experienced mongers that can offer advice in finding sweet little senoritas to comfort my pains will be very appreciated.

I agree that Blackbeards is a good place for a first trip but do not understand your closing sentence. The whole point of staying at Blackbeards is that you have chicas instantly available onsite. You will be paying a small premium for your rooms, food and drink in exchange for this facility. There will be more than enough chicas for you and your friend for nine nights.

There are plenty of options for outings. Taxis are expensive but at least there are two of you to share. If you want a cheaper option, take a moto to the entrance gate of Costambar and catch the JC publico (public shared taxi) from there into Puerto Plata. For comfort, you and your friend could buy four seats so you have the whole back seat to yourself for about US $4. A private taxi from Blackbeards is about US $15. Once in Puerto Plata it is cheap and easy to get to anywhere else such as Sosua or Cabarete. But you need to get back to Blackbeards before dark if using the JC service It is like Cinderella's pumpkin coach. It vanishes after a certain hour. But that is OK as it is the daytime when you will feel the need to take a break away from campus.

I am not sure what sort of dental treatment you are undertaking. If it is radical, you may not feel up to partying every day when you are not being treated. If it is comparatively minor, it seems hardly worth going to Santiago. There are many very competent specialists in Puerto Plata, such as the one I recommended. If you are having your face seriously re-arranged, then I agree Santiago would be the safest option, but you may not want to do much muff-diving while the work is ongoing.

If you have a local phone I would be pleased to meet you in Puerto Plata during the daytime and show you a few places, if this is set up in advance. I live there.

By the way, is your friend having treatment too. If not, what will he be up to while you are in Santiago? He won't want to waste two days out of a nine day trip.

[SubCmdr]

BTW, a comparison of a BMW and a Kia does not seem very relevant, because a BMW is an expensive luxury high performance German car, and a Kia is about the cheapest brand of car you can buy, so it isn't just a question of personal taste, as most people would prefer a BMW over a Kia if the price was the same.

If that's how you see it. But it actually takes a higher skill level to drive a BMW and certain drivers do not posses that skill set.

But when it comes to women, each and everyone of us has our own personal tastes. And some writers report that the women of Sosua do not meet their personal tastes. When an individual posts a critical report, it's not solely up to you do decide if the report meets your quality criteria. Nor does it invalidate the validity of the report or that particular individuals observations. Others in the forum might find something useful within it, even if the information is critical of Sosua. It may not stop other people from visiting but it may allow that person to avoid the item the other writer found unpleasant.

BTW, I do RTFF. Which is why I know most of your reports are highly critical in general. You are not just critical of those who post negative reports about Sosua. I remember making a positive post about Sosua. And you still had something critical to say about my report.

[SavePros321]

Don't you think large scale arrests would have to be approved ahead of time by the hierarchy, due to the amount of resources needed?

Well, they only need a handful, nothing large scale. RacShack came back and clarified his original post. They didn't arrest 200 chicas:

Sorry not all the girls, I seen at least 15-20 taken away, but ruined the party, seen much much girls went running away

And define "approved by the hierarchy". The police chief? I have no doubt the top dog is in on it as well. If he's getting some jailed ass too, then he'll approve all the resources they need, lmao!

Just imagine an African Warlord patiently awaiting the "tribute" his soldiers are bringing back to him as a result of the "spoils of war". This is a 3rd World Country we are talking about, so it's not a far stretch to make the comparison.

[Oakie]

I was referring to the latest closures in Sosua.

Unlike you, I have no fixed party in the DR but the whole island is a great play ground. That said, there is certainly something to be said for people you have built a relationship with and who like the idea of seeing you again and the sex is typically way superior. This stands in sharp contrast to the Sosua overnight pick ups.

Personally, and I have stated this unabashedly over my time here, I have loved Sosua (and the DR) since my first trip and though I have not picked up anyone from the bars in the last several years, and so do not care about the bars at all, I enjoy the place, the food in particular and the "let your hair down, all women are approachable" ambiance.

Makes for interesting conversation, we all care about our favorite bar, hotel, restaurant or the main venues that attract the chicas.

But the stuff that goes on is petty politics. A show of the flag to placate some of the more demanding citizens who don't make a living off prostitution. I've seen the on again and off again crackdowns on covering the bar windows, chicas entering a bar alone, strolling alone, not wearing a moto helmet, and the monthly round up of hookers, especially the Haitians. Bars are closed and then re-opened as if nothing happened.

Fact is Sosua runs on prostitution, and without it, it would be just another La Union, Abajo or Charamichos barrio.

The folks who really run Sosua won't let all that dinero disappear.

If they really wanted change they could simply declare Sosua a "Re-development Zone", and pass a bylaw against prostitution. Throw a couple mongers in jail and Bingo! Cuba here we come!

So relax, we'll all be having this conversation again next year like we had it last year, and the year before.

[Frannie]

I think this is not talked about enough: motive. I think it is safe to assume that if you are an underpaid Police officer in Sosua and you have the power to arrest a bunch of chicas and tell them "Your get out of jail free card tonight is sucking and fucking", you might be inclined to exercise that power, no?

You don't think it bothers these guys to see the Weekend Baller crews dropping a month's worth of a Policeman's salary on some fine ass in one weekend? Some of them have families to feed and would never be able to pay 2000-3000 pesos for some prime ass. Why not blackmail chicas by locking them up and making them pay with their ass to be set free? You'd go home with your balls drained every night as long as you caught some chicas slipping.

Another reason why, during my last trip to Sosua in 2012, you NEVER EVER EVER saw any of the dime chicas (8's, 9's, 10's) strolling the strip at night. When I was standing in line at Classicos, all of those bad-ass top-notch-looking chicas took a moto right up to the front door of the place. They were not risking getting arrested and blackmailed by the cops.

All those nasty, unattractive, "fat" chicas you see guys here complaining about that they see strolling the strip have nothing to lose. They may make some money, or they may not. If they get locked up and have to fuck in order to be set free, then that's the chance they take trying to earn some pesos.

Those 8's, 9's, and 10's know they will make their money and then some just in a couple of hours in Classicos. They don't need to spend all evening strolling the strip.

Don't you think large scale arrests would have to be approved ahead of time by the hierarchy, due to the amount of resources needed?

[Frannie]

So, you are critical of people who travel to Sosua and then file a trip report expressing an unfavorable opinion of the place because personally you like it. Didn't you write that you don't find the women of Sosua to be attractive? I personally appreciate having the opportunity read a diversity of reviews about a place. Nothing in this life is all good or all bad. The Kia owner does not have to be critical of the BMW owner because the BMW owner test drove a Kia and didn't like it.

No I didn't write that I don't find the women of Sosua to be attractive, I said that I don't find the vast majority of the girls attractive, but that I have always been able to find one or two that I was sufficiently attracted to, which is all that one needs. RTFF, please.

I don't mind if people write negative reports on Sosua if the report is reasoned and objective, and provides examples of what the person didn't like and why. For example if you say "I have a bit of a fetish for really skinny girls, and when I did eventually find one I liked the look of, her personality was dull and her performance in bed was hopeless. All the rest of the girls I saw were too fat to sexually excite me, so I decided I might as well spend my money on a ticket change rather than spend it on girls who had no appeal to me, and thus cut my losses on hotel bills and paid vacation time", this would at least send out a warning to those who shared your tastes.

BTW, a comparison of a BMW and a Kia does not seem very relevant, because a BMW is an expensive luxury high performance German car, and a Kia is about the cheapest brand of car you can buy, so it isn't just a question of personal taste, as most people would prefer a BMW over a Kia if the price was the same.

[Mr Gogo]

This happened two weeks ago when a few guys were arrested filming a fully clothed model in Sosua. Not trying to scare folks just reporting the news.

Sosúa, Puerto Plata -. They were arrested by the National Police a group of tourists who allegedly recorded one xxx film in that municipality.

The incident occurred Thursday afternoon when a group of African Americans to take pictures of a beautiful model hanging in the rubble of the old restaurant located in the area Rocca Batey, Sosúa.

Although it was not naked exhibited his skills while cameramen doing their job. Many onlookers filled the street corner Pedro Clisante. Including children, a situation that drew the attention of a patrol of the National Police.

All were arrested and are expected to know if they had permits the Mayor and the Dom.

[MrPootyTang999]

What stops them is money. They might try it for a few days, but it won't last. After dealing with a few belligerent tourists, the police will decide they aren't getting paid enough for this crap. Arresting the chicas is one thing, they can at least expect to get something out of it, but I doubt if that will last. Sosua needs the tourist dollars. Take away the star attraction and the dollars fly away.

Even if they are checking phones, what can they possibly charge you with. I don't think it's illegal to have any kind of nude pics or pictures.

Of guys and girls messing around as long as they are adults. Now if someone's thing is minors then he or she deserves to be locked up.

And the key thrown away, that's just wrong!

Just my 2 cents; stay safe everyone.

[SavePros321]

Arresting the chicas is one thing, they can at least expect to get something out of it

I think this is not talked about enough: motive. I think it is safe to assume that if you are an underpaid Police officer in Sosua and you have the power to arrest a bunch of chicas and tell them "Your get out of jail free card tonight is sucking and fucking", you might be inclined to exercise that power, no?

You don't think it bothers these guys to see the Weekend Baller crews dropping a month's worth of a Policeman's salary on some fine ass in one weekend? Some of them have families to feed and would never be able to pay 2000-3000 pesos for some prime ass. Why not blackmail chicas by locking them up and making them pay with their ass to be set free? You'd go home with your balls drained every night as long as you caught some chicas slipping.

Another reason why, during my last trip to Sosua in 2012, you NEVER EVER EVER saw any of the dime chicas (8's, 9's, 10's) strolling the strip at night. When I was standing in line at Classicos, all of those bad-ass top-notch-looking chicas took a moto right up to the front door of the place. They were not risking getting arrested and blackmailed by the cops.

All those nasty, unattractive, "fat" chicas you see guys here complaining about that they see strolling the strip have nothing to lose. They may make some money, or they may not. If they get locked up and have to fuck in order to be set free, then that's the chance they take trying to earn some pesos.

Those 8's, 9's, and 10's know they will make their money and then some just in a couple of hours in Classicos. They don't need to spend all evening strolling the strip.

[Nordico]

My friend and I are staying at Blackbeards (2 deluxe rooms), it seemed an easy safe place for a couple noobs like us. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to do and where to go? I'll be there from the 17th to 27th. I am there also for Dental work in Santiago. I plan to use the bus system for the 2 trips back and forth to the dentist in Santiago, I was told by the dentist that it was very cheap compared to a taxi. I heard they have Uber now? True? Any experienced mongers that can offer advice in finding sweet little senoritas to comfort my pains will be very appreciated.

Just a piece of advice, don't eat pussy or kiss the girls after the implant operation.

[JjBee62]

They throw dozens of chicas in jail every night for no reason whatsoever, what is stopping them for doing the same thing to a gringo that refuses to "cooperate" with them, I could see it happening.

What stops them is money. They might try it for a few days, but it won't last. After dealing with a few belligerent tourists, the police will decide they aren't getting paid enough for this crap. Arresting the chicas is one thing, they can at least expect to get something out of it, but I doubt if that will last. Sosua needs the tourist dollars. Take away the star attraction and the dollars fly away.

[SubCmdr]

They throw dozens of chicas in jail every night for no reason whatsoever, what is stopping them for doing the same thing to a gringo that refuses to "cooperate" with them, I could see it happening.

Not without consequences. Put a chica in jail who do they have to answer too. But throw a foreigner in jail somebody from the embassy of the case are at least going to check on them. Throw enough of them in jail it will make it onto the web and eventually a major news outlet will report on it. Besides you can get yourself out of that situation very easily if you handle yourself correctly. A chica has no form of back up whatsoever. But the rumor is every single one of them can get out of jail with a 1500 DOP bribe (ahem, I meant to say fine).

[SavePros321]

They throw dozens of chicas in jail every night for no reason whatsoever, what is stopping them for doing the same thing to a gringo that refuses to "cooperate" with them, I could see it happening.

I would say the main difference is Dominican Citizen vs. Tourists. From most of what I've learned about the DR over the years, it seems like they have no problem shitting on their own people (like throwing chicas in jail for no reason). Most guys travel there in packs. If a group of 10 guys decided they are not going to show the police their cell phone, I'm going to safely say they are not taking all of them to jail.

If EVERY guy in Sosua decided they are not going to show the Police their cell phones, that's a hell of a lot of guys getting put in jail. That's going to bring a lot of unwanted attention, especially for a place heavily dependent on tourism. All it will take is for a few guys who are not there for sex tourism getting thrown in jail by the police and it turns out they are well connected on the island and back in their home country for heads to start to roll.

Normally I agree with you Mani, but on this one I will call BS. But if and when the first story pops up here about it happening, I will be the first to admit I was wrong.

[SubCmdr]

My only concern is the rumor reported that monger phones will be checked, which would be crossing a line that has never, to my knowledge, been crossed before.

As a practical matter how are the police going to check your phone if you keep it locked. Are they going to ask you to give them the code? On what basis? If you refuse to give them the code are they going to seize your phone? Or will they arrest you for failing to follow a lawful police order? Even if that happens your phone is still locked. From a simple public relations standpoint, it wouldn't be a very good policy. And this entire push is about public relations and a desire to reallocate capital and change the flow of income. I don't see how the police could institute such a policy if you were not doing anything illegal to begin with. And prostitution is still legal in the Dominican Republic.

Everyone interested in continuing to do business will find a work around. Things are just in transition right now. There is probably enough business to support a smart phone app focusing on Sosua hooks ups. LOL!

[Manizales911]

I can't see how the authorities would even pull this off. They literally would have to be stopping guys in the street and patting them down to see if they have a cell phone on them, and them ask them to unlock their phone, and navigate to their photo albums. I doubt most of the Police know how to operate most of the variations of smart phone out there. What would they do if someone decided to play dumb and say "I just bought this phone and do not know how everything works", or simply told them to "fuck off". Are they going to throw them in jail?

I would chalk this one up to just a very bad rumor that your friend heard.

They throw dozens of chicas in jail every night for no reason whatsoever, what is stopping them for doing the same thing to a gringo that refuses to "cooperate" with them, I could see it happening.