Santo Domingo

[Knowledge]

LOL! That was almost as funny as a Boricua post. Nice.

Are you shitting me? Lap dances at GBP are free and you fuck for an hour for 1200 pesos. Won't find any of those fancy towels there though.

[Mr Enternational]

Foxys.
Out of pure boredom I opted for a 1 k peso lap dance that was OK, lasting 2 or 3 songs.

Are you shitting me? Lap dances at GBP are free and you fuck for an hour for 1200 pesos. Won't find any of those fancy towels there though.

[AussieStiffler]

I just paid a subscription, and keen to organize a meetup for members in Santo Domingo.

Send me a message and I'll co-ordinate.

[AussieStiffler]

Before arriving in Santo Domingo I spent a week in Sosua, Cabarete and Las Terrenas respectively with good yet mixed results. (see my trip reports).

- Sosua. Point and click.

- Cabarete. Awesome GFE gems.

- Las Terrenas. Sleepy, with a few hotties.

Santo Domingo.

Grabbed the now-old Google map and did a sweep of the listed casas. Almost all of them are now closed. WTF.

The active venues that I did make it to:

Oasis (guessing it was Baby Dolls once upon a time).

Seriously impressive lineup. Selected a shapely honey with long blonde tipped hair to join me to sit down. Turns out she speaks fluent English.

It didn't take long to get on to the topic of transaction arrangement. 4 k takeout for 2 hours. The cab driver working out the front demanded 500 pesos for the 300 metre trip to Napolitano.

She needed another 500 for the return. 5 K plus beers was outrageously steep, but worth every peso.

In my hotel she gave me a striptease before undressing me. BBJ and passionate acrobatics ensued. After the deed she hung around and we lounged, chatted for ages. She asked if she could leave eventually when I got bored.

I returned two nights later and selected a more mature lady with ample body. In house venture this time, same price. But better off minus the cab fees.

Clean rooms and towels. Overall this place is recommended.

Foxys.

Big reputation that didn't deliver. Lackluster semi pregnant looking women. One "fox" who tried to "seduce" me had bad body odor. Out of pure boredom I opted for a 1 k peso lap dance that was OK, lasting 2 or 3 songs. The papasan / host was a sneaky fellow akin to Fagan from Oliver Twist.

Casa Teresa.

Wonderful! The cheery staff create a great atmosphere. One of the Haitian security fellows was a laugh. Great lineup of ladies ranging from very pale, amply stacked Venezuelans to dark chocolate Haitian ladies. I took a Venezuelan and she didn't disappoint. Amazing service. I will go back.

There is a girly bar next to Hotel Napolitano. I mistakenly ventured in one evening with a date, only to find the place full of available working ladies. They all looked welcoming and pretty though.

I'll be here for another week or so. If anyone has any advice I would gladly appreciate it.

Thanks.

[Knowledge]

Try the food court in the Sambil Mall, a lot of Villa Mella, Villa Juana, and Ensanche La Fe girls hang around the food court. It's on the metro line so you get a lot of traffic.

Went to mega centro today Santo Domingo Este! Absolutely in heaven! la Republica Dominican is the absolute.

Ass& hips \ Capitol of the world/ lots of fresh non-pros, stunning bodies, and they will talk to you!!

I see why everyone falls in love with this country! Guys if I can, you have to stop past this mall, you will absolutely be captivated!

Gave my whatsapp number to some fine tenders! Apolo taxi tarifa only about 200 pesos, buy a ice cream cone sit back and pull me over!

[StrokenBlkMan]

Went to mega centro today Santo Domingo Este! Absolutely in heaven! la Republica Dominican is the absolute.

Ass& hips \ Capitol of the world/ lots of fresh non-pros, stunning bodies, and they will talk to you!!

I see why everyone falls in love with this country! Guys if I can, you have to stop past this mall, you will absolutely be captivated!

Gave my whatsapp number to some fine tenders! Apolo taxi tarifa only about 200 pesos, buy a ice cream cone sit back and pull me over!

[Mr Enternational]

Wait, I thought that guys were saying not too long ago that the Venezuelan women were asking and getting MORE than Dominican chicas? Not that they were going for less!

Word is that they have been chased off to Punta Cana. I am in Santo Domingo now and was in Boca Chica earlier today looking for them in broad daylight with a flashlight and turned up empty. If anyone has the 411 on them then let me know.

[SavePros321]

January 27,2017.

MENU.

ECONOMY.

Local hookers cringe as Venezuelans 'invade' market.

Santo Domingo. - The growing arrival of Venezuelan women who turn to prostitution in the country starts to concern Dominican sex workers, who complain that they "turn tricks" at below the local market price.

Wait, I thought that guys were saying not too long ago that the Venezuelan women were asking and getting MORE than Dominican chicas? Not that they were going for less!

[AussieStiffler]

Apologies if this has been discussed before. I've searched rigorously on this topic to to no avail.

Can anyone provide insight into the Satisfaction Plus adult hotel in Santo Domingo?

Is it a newbies only place? How are the chicas?

I've been having a blast across the north coast and about to venture south. I speak Spanish and seasoned in the region.

Thanks.

[Prtyr2]

OK my man. I'm glad all your experiences with the Dominican moneyed classes have been positive. Mine have not. My experiences visiting that area differ from yours. My opinion of what it would be like to live in that area is different than yours. What I have to say about it a opinion and everything you have to say about it is to be accepted as fact. Is that because you have lived here off and on for 20 years and I have not? I think not. Far from being full of myself as a "newbie" I'm simply expressing my opinions and stating the occasional fact when it is correct..

Nobody cares how long I have been here. I brought it up as you used your living here as a reason you can talk about RE and people not currently living here can't. You called anyone that didn't know este was a separate municipality "uninformed". You said you can't get fair market pricing on internet. Not true. You think Dominicans don't get the real deal pricing? Who do you think uses supercasas and corrotos? You think those sites exists to gouge uninformed gringos? Please.

Tell me old wise one, how much would a three bedroom 240 square meter apt in Bella vista go for at "market prices"? If there are dozens available at similar prices, and buildings full of people paying those prices, then that is market price. Try sending a barrio chica to "front" and get you real prices in Naco.

Your opinion is that santo Domingo este is not noisier than gazcue or piantini or naco. Your opinion is that people in gazcue that pay the same amount in rent that you do, walk around with nose in the air. Those are opinions and not facts.

[SubCmdr]

I lived in gazcue for years and never saw snobs with nose in the air as you describe. One of my fave areas of the capital. Only reason I moved was apts are on small side and it is more noisy than where I live now.

OK my man. I'm glad all your experiences with the Dominican moneyed classes have been positive. Mine have not. My experiences visiting that area differ from yours. My opinion of what it would be like to live in that area is different than yours. What I have to say about it a opinion and everything you have to say about it is to be accepted as fact. Is that because you have lived here off and on for 20 years and I have not? I think not. Far from being full of myself as a "newbie" I'm simply expressing my opinions and stating the occasional fact when it is correct.

You project, through the tone your writing, that the distinct possibility exists that because I'm a "newbie" that I do not know anything compared to you. And imply that might not be able to interpret my own experiences and form my own opinions. I've never told anyone to "tone things down" or how to write. Tell me Mr. Prty2 what is your Paradigm? Share it with me. And I'll make a better effort to see things and then write about them here using your perspective on life.

Here is what I actually said:

Ill leave all those "middle class" areas for you and Knowledge. Those are your stomping grounds. And if that's how you choose / have chosen to live, that's great. I never said it wasn't nice. For me it's a great place to visit. Just wouldn't want to live there.

The way I see it: you have a real problem actually reading and comprehending what I write. It might be because you are way more focused on form than substance. And you seem to be really wrapped up in this "I've lived here longer than you and know more than you" persona that you are projecting through your writing. I'm still waiting for you to point out exactly where I wrote that my opinions are more important than anyone else's. And I'm still waiting for you to point out the facts that I have stated that are incorrect.

[Prtyr2]

Ok Mr. Prtyr2,

Executive summary of the conversation for those that have not been following closely:

Someone asked about prices of apartments in Santo Domingo. Knowledge posted incorrect information. I posted information that corrected him. Knowledge complained about the language in my post but did not challenge my factual information. You jumped in the side of Knowledge calling me out for my language and supporting the incorrect information Knowledge originally posted. And therefore you were wrong also. Now like a hockey player that's been checked hard into the boards you are seeing stars and want to change the subject. Fine with me!

You easily confuse opinion with fact. On average SDQ este is more noisy than Piantini, yes or no? Not talking about your legendary needle in haystack building.

Nobody gives acrap if you curse. Read your post. You sound like a typical newbie that gets all full of himself so he can belittle those with less knowledge or experience. You said only "uninformed" don't know that este is separate municipality. You wrote how anyone that doesn't currently live here as you do can not comment on real estate. I do, so I did. Name the neighborhoods you have lived in. Or is it only that one?

You now say there is no middle class? Huh? I know people that pay 3,000 pesos rent. I know others that pay 500 bucks, I know some that pay 3,000 USD per month. From my balcony I can see a torre that the penthouse rents for $7,000 per month. I pay no where near that. So enlighten us. Is $1,100 perl month poor? Is that rich? Your 500 per month place is for the "rich"?

I know couples where both work, two college professors living in LOS prides are not rich. They are also not in Simon Bolivar. They have nice cars and a nice place but no BMWs and beach homes in Juan dolio. Ask them if they are rich. They will say "middle class". I am sure they will be stunned to know that a gringo newbie has declared there is no middle class and that anyone that disagrees is wrong.

I lived in gazcue for years and never saw snobs with nose in the air as you describe. One of my fave areas of the capital. Only reason I moved was apts are on small side and it is more noisy than where I live now.

As far as sharing. I don't really monger, though I do like to head out for a few beers now and then and check here once in a while to see if there is any new info. Rarely. If I see a thread where I can add more than GBP and calle Pasteur I will. If I see people that can't find club MC, Galleros, Shylo etc, I will help if I happen to stop by. If one day someone asks about "piano bars" I know a couple that may be new to them and one that even Dominican taxi drives have no idea about. Years ago I posted a map of the gazcue area when there were more than 10 MPs within walking distance and none were clearly marked. I still get PMs from members telling me how much my info helped when they first came down.

Also, if you think I don't know how to spell Piantini you are being silly. I explained it was spell check but you continue to bring it up. You seem to have a complex where you need to be right. You have the right to your opinion, but not your own facts. Calling other opinions wrong is just plain silly.

[StrokenBlkMan]

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[SubCmdr]

Ok Mr. Prtyr2,

Executive summary of the conversation for those that have not been following closely:

Someone asked about prices of apartments in Santo Domingo. Knowledge posted incorrect information. I posted information that corrected him. Knowledge complained about the language in my post but did not challenge my factual information. You jumped in the side of Knowledge calling me out for my language and supporting the incorrect information Knowledge originally posted. And therefore you were wrong also. Now like a hockey player that's been checked hard into the boards you are seeing stars and want to change the subject. Fine with me!

Response to your latest post:

It's impossible for you to say why I was posting when you have failed to read or understand what I posted. At no point did I say my OPINION had more weight than anyone else's. You are attributing the tone of Mr. Knowledge's post to mine. Another incorrect assertion. My post was a response to the inaccurate post that indicated that you could only rent an apartment for amount of money the was quoted in the original post if you were Santo Domingo Este. In addition, he stated the accommodations of the apartment received would be inferior and implied (no he did not explicitly say) the renter would be living next to colmados and having to put up with loud music. I suggest you read Mr. Knowledge's post again.

Now Mr. Knowledge has bowed out of the conversation like a gentleman because he couldn't just say "My Bad" (Slang from the United States). But you jumped in trying to save Mr. Knowledge's ass by saying "Unless you are in painting (your original spelling) or naco you will deal with loud noise eventually". That statement was wrong. But you won't "man up" (more slang from the United States) about it. Now you are doing the "MJ moonwalk" thing on me. So be it. I take no issue with your new qualified statement.

Your main objection was to my language. You confirmed in your post that the factual information I provided was accurate. You then went own to outline your experiences and preferences. No one can invalidate those. I appreciate your extensive and detailed review of 20 years of living off and on in the Dominican Republic. Sounds like a book title to me. LOL! It appears that at a least one long time resident has chosen to share the extensive knowledge he has developed over the years.

I took from your post that you know a bunch of guys that like to sit around and talk about the "Golden Era of the DR". WTF? Immediately the Bruce Springsteen song "Glory Days" came to mind: "And I hope when I get old I don't sit around thinking about it, but I probably will. Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture a little of the glory of, well time slips away and leaves you with nothing mister but boring stories of glory days. ".

I'm ROTFLMFAO! No thank you. Not for me! I'm sitting on my balcony, basking in the sunlight, having a drink and looking at the ocean. My cell phone goes off. It's my whatsapp. Some sweet twenty something wants to see me (and I know what that means). I tell her to come on over. And I'm supposed to believe that I missed the "Golden Era of the DR"? No my brother! I don't think so. LOL!

As long as smoking hot girls in their twenties are willing to give 50, 60, 70 year old men pussy then the time I'm living in right here and right now is my golden age. Tell your counsel of old men I'm not missing a thing. You can't find any posts where I'm whining like a girly man about not being able to find GFE (mine go way beyond GFE also); You can't find my posts where TLN is a problem (I have trouble getting mine to leave also). You seem like a fairly educated fellow (much more than me, you know, with your proper English and the middle class thing you got going on). Talk to them about a smart phone. Teach them how to use whatsapp and social media. And then they will see they can still, just using their finger, have the pussy come to them (roll the laugh track on that one boys).

Middle Class? That's a oxymoron if I ever heard one in the Dominican Republic. You either have money or you don't. Let me guess, your next post is going to be about the honest politicians that you hang out with. With your talk about "middle class" areas, there your go again with you biases Mr. Prtyr2 (or are they preferences? You never really make that clear). I don't know you. But just from the way you write and what you write about there is not a bit of your advice that I consider valid for me. I've already given you my opinions on those parts of the city. So I won't repeat them here. But did you ever stop to think that maybe it's because I have experienced all that I need or want to experience over there?

Because while it may have taken you 20 years to realize all the city had to offer, it's taken me less than three. I've been there and hung out in those "Middle Class" areas (your term). Tell me I don't know what it's like because I haven't lived there and I'm going to ask: "Do I need to take a bullet to know it would not be optimal for my health and well being?" And more than that, I accepted the challenge Mr. Gogo threw at me and I have traveled all over the Dominican Republic. I talk to Dominicans and they tell me I've been more places than they have on the island. Of course that depends upon who I'm talking too. Here is the simple point I have been trying to make and you don't seem to be able to get it.

If I wanted to live where you and Knowledge like to live I could have stayed the the place I grew up. That's the country with the billionaire president who's advice to young men on how to handle females is to "just grab them in the pussy" and "where it's all about the mother fucking money. " And if you think that I have formed my opinions because I don't know what it's like to live large, google "Air Force Two" and ask yourself have you flown on a plane with that call sign? Send me a PM if you want to know if I have.

So, my man. I think we have a new understanding of each other. I'll leave all those "middle class" areas for you and Knowledge. Those are your stomping grounds. And if that's how you choose / have chosen to live, that's great. I never said it wasn't nice. For me it's a great place to visit. Just wouldn't want to live there. My brother, don't paint Santo Domingo Este with a broad brush full of your biases as if there are no exceptions. Because then you are doing just what Knowledge did. Throwing up some weak shit and showing your lack of it.

First, you were posting to say that unless people live in santo domingo right now, they can't comment on real estate, so you were in effect saying that your opinion is more valid because you have "lived here longer". I just pointed out that if you open that door, there will always be people that have been here longer or know more. I have been here on and off for almost 20 years but know several that have been here much longer. I can tell you that if you never went to LE petit chateau, mona lisa, remington palace, spa michelle, cisne or suenos real, you missed the golden era of the DR. But guys that have been here longer joke about sitting at almost any outdoor place they could have held up one finger if they wanted one girl and two for two girls.

In the past the problem was getting them to leave not getting them to stay TLN. There was no negotiating for what you wanted. They almost all were beyond GFE..

[Knowledge]

The trend is nearly two years old. On the other hand, the money amounts mentioned surprised me. So, I read the original article in El Caribe. This translation is misleading. The article actually says: "Venezuelans charge as much as 2,500 pesos less than the top rate of 3,000 pesos Dominicans charge. The rest of the translation is largely accurate.

I agree with the way the writer characterized the Venezuelans women. Have fun!

January 27,2017.

MENU.

ECONOMY.

Local hookers cringe as Venezuelans 'invade' market.

Santo Domingo. - The growing arrival of Venezuelan women who turn to prostitution in the country starts to concern Dominican sex workers, who complain that they "turn tricks" at below the local market price.

Women's Movement (Modemu) president and former "hooker" Jacqueline Montero said she has received complaints from former colleagues working in Santo Domingo's Malecon, that the South Americans charge as little as RD $2,500 per trick, or below the RD $3,000 which the locals usually charge the "johns" (customers)..