Cartagena Reports

[JoeRoc]

Fellas,

I will be making my second trip to Cartagena on Sep 2nd, and I'm trying to find a restaurant in Bocagrande that serves grilled lobster.

[Kc Talent]

I've been reading some of these trip reports and I'm confused. Are some of you guys really paying these chicks 700,000 and 800,000 k cop. I've been to Cartagena at least 5 times now the latest being in June and never paid more than 300,000 and that's when I'm pulling chicks out of the club. I give the clock tower chicks 200,000 to 250,000. Depending on the time of night we end up falling asleep anyway and they spend the night, if I smash again in the morning I'll tip her 50,000 to 100,000 k but sometimes they don't even ask I just to do it out of kindness. I would never agree to that price for the whole night if I didn't do a st session first because you never know how well she will perform and now she's looking for the 800,000 k you promised her even if she only stays for one hour.

Negotiate for ST first and then if you want her to stay all night offer her 100,000 to 150,000 more. These girls are robbing you guys blind.

No they are not robbing anyone. Please post a few photos of the girls you are pulling out of Club Dolce for 300,000. Hell you have 3 whole post no photos but now claim you're a great negotiator and we are being robbed, or is it you are just getting bottom of barrel with low performers. Surely you not getting top lookers and performers out of Dolce. I didn't see a girl in Dolce that I would not have paid 500,000 to for TLN and if it's she is my type pretty, fat ass and big tits with cute feet and a freak I will pay 600,000 or even 700,000 COP since I don't do ST and a curfew with me they earn every COP and more. I show respect treat them well and in the end I win and feel happy not robbed. Each his own and waiting to see your post with Photos.

[Mojo Bandit]

I've contacted the journo who covered Condon's sentencing hearing, https://www.news-gazette.com/news/lo...9695df0b5.html and she has made enquiries and confirms that Condon is currently in custody in Illinois.d.

But right now, based on my previous post to you, I am inclined to believe that the Condon shown in the pic, is not the same person as the occupier of that room. If it were, I think it would not have just made headlines in Illinois, but almost certainly nationally(notwithstanding the $5 mill USD bribe allegation), and the media are not looking for answers?

I googled Condon and the mugshot is actually from Il and not CA.

Yet it is claimed that he paid a bribe of $5 mill to get out of prison in the US. What are the chances of a teen having that much money to begin with?

Then there is this: https://www.inmateaid.com/inmate-pro...condon-2495632 which though undated, does show him to be currently in custody.

Outstanding work Mr Holmes!, because of the Semana mis reporting I had been focused on Danville California and I did go so far as to look up his name in the California inmate database, which confused me even more when his name was not listed. LOL.

That part about the 5 million dollar bribe was over the top, I thought beacuase I had read that he had a 5 million dollar bail bond that maybe possibly he was from some wealthy family that had posted his bond and he ran, so the Colombain reporters were calling it a "payoff" but then I could not find anything in the news about that and surely the journalist who followed his court story would have made a bid deal out of that and I could not find anything.

What you have discovered means that these irresponsiblle media like "Semana" are feeding the greiving family a false narrative. They really are peices of shit. I do not know enough about Colombian media to know if there are reputable news organizations.

[Nypher]

Its Friday, another rinse and repeat. Started off the day texting new chicas to come over for a pool party. 150 mil for 1 polvo if the guys want to, they agree. One of the girls showed up with an extra friend who was a little chubby where they pull the pants up past their belly button to hide the stomach but cute in the face. So I let her in just to see how she gets down. We start playing Twister and Just Dance, order food, playing in the pool. They start doing their Instagram stories taking pictures of the food and drinks next to the pool. I'm like cool, one of my boys grabbed the chubby chick an another for a trio and my other friend and I split the other two. Everyone handle their business and send the girls on their way.

Off to big Exito by the bank to restock the beer. No Corona. No Stella. Tons of Heineken, Michelob Ultra and the local beers. We al looked at each other like fuck no and walked over to the other other large Exito by the fancy mall, no Corona, no Stella, just local beers in cans. We call it quits and decide to do a little shopping and head back to the apartment. I text another girl to come for a quick session for 200 mil. In the middle of my session my boy runs over and knocks on my door yelling "Yo they shooting outside, is it safe or we got's to go! So I stop, open my door and listen for a second and tell him its just fireworks, relax. He insists its gunshots so I tell him "Bro, you from Brooklyn, you hear gunshots all the time in the 30+ years you lived there. I know its your first time in Colombia but a gunshot sounds the same no matter what country you are in, their guns are not shooting in Spanish down here" then I close my door and continue my session. Send the girl on her way and decide to go get something new.

We decide to walk around along the wall and enter from the Clock tower side so he can see what it looks like on a Friday night. Tons of girls, lots of guys negotiating, I see a single police car with flashing lights and another familiar face from Sosua. Lo and behold I happen to look at his shirt and it says (Paradise Lyfe) and that's when it all clicked and I realized that Sosua travel group is here and we need to make moves now. My boy wants to go back to Delirium, I tell him no we need to do Space tonight. He insists on Delirium. I explain to him, many of these Sosua mongers are old, out of shape, over weight men, the steps they have to walk up to get into Space will be a good deterrent to keep most of them out so you won't be constantly rubbing up against beer bellies. Meanwhile one of my regular chicas posts a stats on Whatsapp showing that she's in space. I ask her "Are there any fat black big belly guys in there" she says "no but not many girls, the girls will come after 10. " Ok cool. We start walking toward the discos and I see about 7 cops surround 4 chicas asking for papers, looks like they are really cracking down on the immigrants because they have been going on almost every night since I got here. Now we are on the Delirium street side an about to make the left to get to the Dolce / Space side and this girl stops me and we get to talking with her little English and my little Spanish but she was cute as fuck, my boy decides to keep walking straight, and walk right into Delirium. I did the biggest face palm my brain shook. I start walking over to Space and text him telling him to do what you need to do over there and meet me in Space. 20 minutes later he walks in Space mad as hell and I already knew why so I just joked and asked how did those beer bellies feel rubbing against his back. He starts ranting "We got these fat ass mongers in there who look like their primary purpose in life is to take up as much space as possible. They have the beer bellies and the man purse but they put the man purse in front of the beer belly taking up even more space. Then they sweating so crazy they got hand towels over their shoulders or wash cloths on top of their heads constantly wiping sweat from their face. " I didn't want to tell I'm "I told you so" so I just told him play the field and grab something quick before the ones who can make it up the steps get here.

My other boy already got something and they are just getting beers drinking. I'm still looking. One girl walks in, sees me, comes over kiss me on the cheek and disappears into the crowd, a few minutes later another girl comes in and does the same thing, then another comes and does the same. My friend saw this from by the bar and comes back and ask why all these girls kissing you. I let him know these are my new chicas, I've been fucking them on a rotation during the day before he landed. Hes surprised at how many they were. I explained to him these same girls in the discos that are telling everyone 600 mil+ are all 150 mil for me during the day and they are more fun in the day time. My friend see something he like, approaches her and comes back mad as hell. Turns out she turned him down saying "No negros", but took his whatsapp number number anyway. I tell him "Ok, cool, get another one." He's pissed so I have to explain to him the culture is different down here, he is accustom to moreno or morena but down here the language is negro or negra which is just the name of the color in Spanish. Ight hes cool now, and the girl starts sending him a few pics of other girls who are her friends and she says they will do negro. He sees one he like, picks it and she shows up to the club in 5 minutes. I on the other hand see nothing and then a train of guys come in and goes straight to the VIP area (shout out the guy rocking the black and gold Versace outfit with the included matching hand purse and flip flops). Then in comes one of the beer beer belly guys with the man purse in front of the beer belly. That's my que to leave.

On the way out a chica who I know who only operate on Tinder was coming in with a monger and he goes straight to the VIP (I don't know why he would bring non disco chicas into a disco when many of these Tinder girls have boyfriends and don't want to be seen as a working girl. Bad for the monger because the BF can come after him and bad for the girl because the BF can hurt her). She starts texting me she don't want to be here but he's her client and he wants to be here and hes paying allot. More power to him and his pockets I guess, but I tell her once she gets the smoke smell out her hair to come see me.

I get outside and and see this hot short chick with a CardiB twisted face and approach her with "Hola, Que te Pasa". She smiles, tell me her price 300 mil por hora and 600 mil la noche. I counter with 200 mil la noche and 400 mil la noche. She responds back with "No, I'm Colombian and Colombians charge more". Oops I guess I started off the introduction wrong by using Venezuelan dialect and she's Colombian, but then it hits me, I've been with this chica before but I don't remember her face because I mostly hit it from the back. So I take off my mask and she yells out "Oh tuuuu, pene rico!" and she agrees to my price but I tell her later I want to try something new. I get a random slim girl coming out the club, 19 years old, only been working for 4 months and only 6 months in Colombia. I skip all the small talk and lead with "200 mil, una polvo, vamos!" she goes back across the street talk to her friends then comes back and counter with 300 mil. I counter with 200 mil + taxi she agrees and its off to the apartment to continue the fun.

[ElPapi]

LOL. You have 3 posts here and have that much sense. Kind of defeats the purpose of mongering in the 3rd world if you are going to pay 1st world prices. Badass GFE from Tinder just left here in Bogota for 150,000 2 hours. She did not count the money or time. I think the guys are robbing themselves blind.

Agreed. I was in Cartagena in March and got the girl for 300 k-450 k for the whole night and I normally give them 50 k tips if they are very friendly and cooperative. Girls will always ask for more but a bit negotiation they drop the price.

[Trvllvr58]

I think it would be better if you negotiate with a girl here in Cartagena, I don't see any point in bringing a girl from Cucuta, when there are many to choose from here, I can help you with that, so you don't worry about being robbed or something like that, just send me a PM.

OnFireBoy. Sent you a PM. Hope to hear from you.

[Dublin12]

I've contacted the journo who covered Condon's sentencing hearing, https://www.news-gazette.com/news/lo...9695df0b5.html and she has made enquiries and confirms that Condon is currently in custody in Illinois.

As I suspected, this is definitely a case of mistaken identity. Either someone has used Condon's ID, or there is another Christopher Condon totally unrelated to the person shown in both the news item above and the Semana article. Either way, Semana's story is journalism of the sloppiest kind.

[Mr Enternational]

I've been reading some of these trip reports and I'm confused. Are some of you guys really paying these chicks 700,000 and 800,000 k cop. I've been to Cartagena at least 5 times now the latest being in June and never paid more than 300,000
Negotiate for ST first and then if you want her to stay all night offer her 100,000 to 150,000 more. These girls are robbing you guys blind.

LOL. You have 3 posts here and have that much sense. Kind of defeats the purpose of mongering in the 3rd world if you are going to pay 1st world prices. Badass GFE from Tinder just left here in Bogota for 150,000 2 hours. She did not count the money or time. I think the guys are robbing themselves blind.

[Dublin12]

I have seen a couple of these posts on Facebook, as I have attached below. Some chicas that frequent Cartagena posted these images claiming the girl was murdered. But it could just be drama.

The whiole situation is kind of weird.

The parts of the story that indicate something odd are that the family talked like they knew the girl was seeing this guy, and that is not typical of a working girl transaction thing, I am not saying that she was not a working girl, I am saying that it does not seem to be how she came to be in his apartment, but the most suspicious part is, if this is the guy they say it is, he was known to have confessed to killing one person already, so that is one that we know of, so my questioning attitude is asking this: What are the chances of coincidence that this chica picked a known murderers apartment to commit suicide in?

That really is a highly improbable scenario as you suggest. But right now, based on my previous post to you, I am inclined to believe that the Condon shown in the pic, is not the same person as the occupier of that room. If it were, I think it would not have just made headlines in Illinois, but almost certainly nationally. How does a man supposedly serving a 24 year sentence in the US with still over 20 years of hos sentence left to do, appear in Cartagena (notwithstanding the $5 mill USD bribe allegation), and the media are not looking for answers?

[Dublin12]

Here is what looks like a some more detailed reports about the incident, as of the writing of this article it looks like the police have not actually called it a homicide yet.

According to the story in Semana, which has his mug shot picture from California, this guy had previously be sentenced to do 24 yrs in California Im trying to figure out how he got out of the country after that

https://www.semana.com/nacion/articulo/la-misteriosa-muerte-de-laura-melissa-caraballo-montano-en-exclusivo-sector-de-cartagena/202115/

https://www.eluniversal.com.co/suces...ande-AA5211741

Here is the story about him being sentenced in the US
https://www.commercial-news.com/news/local_news/condon-receives-24-years-in-idoc/article_fd282de8-b7ed-11ea-a5cb-fbb217464bfb.html

I googled Condon and the mugshot is actually from Il and not CA.

What I am having trouble with is that this is supposed to be a man serving 24 years without parole in an Illinois prison, and yet I can find no mention of him in the US press linking him to this crime, or that he escaped, or questioning how he is currently in Colombia. That suggests to me that the IL Condon is unlikely to be the same one mentioned in Cartagena.

By my calculations, Condon was aged 18 or 19 when the Il murder occurred. Yet it is claimed that he paid a bribe of $5 mill to get out of prison in the US. What are the chances of a teen having that much money to begin with?

Whether there was a murder or not, there is something wrong with what I've read so far. What would normally happen in a story like this, is the Colombian press would have contacted the media in Danville IL to sell the story to them, and the failure to see any mention of the story in the US press makes me think there is no connection.

Then there is this: https://www.inmateaid.com/inmate-pro...condon-2495632 which though undated, does show him to be currently in custody.

[Dublin12]

A Colombian jail would even be worse!

I remember a few years ago, reading a story of a woman in Colombia who had seven children, six of which were daughters. Apparently as soon as the daughters reached certain (under) age, she sold their virginities for the equivalent of $200 US, and it all came to light when the last daughter complained to the police and there then follows the story in the papers complete with mugshot etc.

Looking in the comments section, of the first 19 comments from Americans, 16 stated "Columbia" rather than "Colombia". I remember thinking at the time, "Would I really want to take advice on how to deal with the issue from people who were so uninformed, that even though they see the correct name of the country, still can't copy it down correctly.

There are typos, and there is ignorance. Anyone can make a typo, but that will not stop the ignorant from giving their opinions on a whole host of problems for which they are nowhere near qualified. That is said without any disrespect to the person who posted the typo in this particular thread.

[Mojo Bandit]

This story is very sad. Two weeks ago I messaged a pimp that I know from my previous trip for some pictures to see what the talent was like for our upcoming trip. This girl was was one of the first he sent me. When I asked him about her yesterday he said she was killed.

Two of my Dolce girls confirmed she use to work in there and was into drugs allot and they thought it she offed herself.

I have seen a couple of these posts on Facebook, as I have attached below. Some chicas that frequent Cartagena posted these images claiming the girl was murdered. But it could just be drama.

The whiole situation is kind of weird.

The parts of the story that indicate something odd are that the family talked like they knew the girl was seeing this guy, and that is not typical of a working girl transaction thing, I am not saying that she was not a working girl, I am saying that it does not seem to be how she came to be in his apartment, but the most suspicious part is, if this is the guy they say it is, he was known to have confessed to killing one person already, so that is one that we know of, so my questioning attitude is asking this: What are the chances of coincidence that this chica picked a known murderers apartment to commit suicide in?

[Dublin12]

Wednesday, I signed up for the Chiva Party Bus tour. I didn't enjoy it. I jumped ship at the clock tower and the whole scene there was night and day from Tues. 10:30 PM and the plaza was jumping. No cops and a lot of girls. Openly negotiating with dudes like me. I got a couple of opening bids of 250 k. When I balked, they said 200 was the lowest they would go. I hung out a while checking out the talent. If I had been more patient I would probably have succumbed and paid the 200 k. Only something told me that these girls would not live up to the price tag. I ran into Michelle again and made the mistake of not repeating. I had dreams of bigger and better fish, fool that I am. Instead of going for personality, I went for looks. And was disappointed. The one I found was willing to go with me for 100 k. Then back in the room she tried to say we had agree on 100 USD. I reminded her exactly of the conversation. She then asked for 50 k more, and I told her to leave. Then she said, It's Ok, and we began to go at it. But once again, I failed to set the rules up ahead of time and paid the price. Little friend was covered for the BJ and she was not great at it. When we moved on to other things she was texting while we were in the middle of the act. I couldn't sustain it and she knew it. She told me just to finish on her belly. I just wanted her out of there, so that's what happened. She mentioned a few times the need to pay her 50 k more, and I told her she was dreaming. She left after receiving a text that must have been her next date. Live and learn, I keep telling myself. Off to Barranquilla today. I see there is little in that section here on the Forum, so I want to see for myself what is going on in the land of Shakira.

A frequent theme of mine is if I find one that ""works" for me, I keep them. Especially as when I used to change frequently, I so often had the same experience wishing I had kept last night's girl on staff.

However, reading about No 2, you can't expect them to treat you like you are the man of their dreams, but you would expect some effort on her part. Personally, if it had been me, I would have given her the cab fare as soon as she started playing up about $100. My experience is that those who will try to scam you, will invariably perform poorly.

[The Tall Man]

This story is very sad. Two weeks ago I messaged a pimp that I know from my previous trip for some pictures to see what the talent was like for our upcoming trip. This girl was was one of the first he sent me. When I asked him about her yesterday he said she was killed.

Sad yes. I read the details on a Facebook group page as it was being discussed.

I read the article, sad, such a pretty girl. Her father and other family members swore that no she was not involved in sex work or drugs, right.

RIP and prayers to the family and friends.

The Tall Man.

[Kmac22]

I've been reading some of these trip reports and I'm confused. Are some of you guys really paying these chicks 700,000 and 800,000 k cop. I've been to Cartagena at least 5 times now the latest being in June and never paid more than 300,000 and that's when I'm pulling chicks out of the club. I give the clock tower chicks 200,000 to 250,000. Depending on the time of night we end up falling asleep anyway and they spend the night, if I smash again in the morning I'll tip her 50,000 to 100,000 k but sometimes they don't even ask I just to do it out of kindness. I would never agree to that price for the whole night if I didn't do a st session first because you never know how well she will perform and now she's looking for the 800,000 k you promised her even if she only stays for one hour.

Negotiate for ST first and then if you want her to stay all night offer her 100,000 to 150,000 more. These girls are robbing you guys blind.