Pattaya Reports

[RakSopheni]

There is a recent emergence on this thread of a group of High Price Purists who are collectively authoring and endorsing an idea that we could call High Price Purity. Let me see if I can briefly Straw-Man the argument- 95% of Pattaya girls are not worth wasting one's time with, the 5% that are acceptable are to be found primarily in top tier GoGo Bars and that the seemingly high prices they command are worth it considering that all the rest is untouchable refuse.

Corollary to this is the idea that any girl that falls within the ST 1500-2000 range is sure to be unattractive and that the Monger in question has low standards and should be ridiculed. Mr Chan Chalupa and Mr Paolo99 please chime in and tell me where I've got your views wrong here because I readily admit it's a Straw Man for rhetorical effect.

I find it interesting, on LATAM threads there usually is pressure from the board to brag about securing low prices with mongers gaming their reported prices down to impress the Peanut Gallery. Here (for the moment) it seems to be now reversed- with a pressure to report higher prices indicating status, taste, and discernment. I will not speculate about what is generating this dynamic, but will at least agree that most of the girls in Pattaya are completely no-go (to be polite), but that means little since there are just so many women.

I'm posting photos below of one GOYAa1 on TF who is asking 5000- to which I politely declined. For one, she seems like a real unpleasant person (if she's even the one running her TF), and I'm not the type that likes Dominatrixes or getting pegged, etc. I will not give her a number on the controversial 1-10 scale, but I think most will agree she's pretty hot. This to me, is no guarantee of a fun time- with many things that could go wrong, from requiring all covered service, to being a cold and bad lay- the potential for a total wash is there and while 5000 is not a lot to me, I'd rather get 4 BJ's at a GC than have one experience, that even if it did go right, might not be any more fun.

And that's the bottom line- did the monger have fun? It could be that for the High Price Purist, part of the fun is paying top dollar and that is central to his matrix of stimulation. He needs that ego boost to enjoy the sex. On the other end, the bargain hunter is looking to be ahead on the deal and that feeling gives him power. I would say I fall in the middle- I don't want a girl that is too hot (I need to be able to believe she's into me), but I need her to be fuckable by my standards (which are as I've said- petite, slim, face on 6. 5-8. 5 range). I think 1500-2500 is reasonable for this ask. I don't need to bargain hunt and sort through refuse at below 1500, but I don't want to pay more and feel like I'm getting ripped off. Please let me know what I've got wrong here Mr CC and P99, I'm all ears.

[Explorer8939]

I'm on the west coast and it ends up being about the same amount of time for us crossing the pacific and connecting primarily through Japan, the trip ends up being around 30 hours to BKK. In addition, it consists of three flights for me as I don't live near an international hub.

Good to hear things are still well like last year in Pattaya.

Looking forward to your reports.

I have the flight from Hell coming up.

Air Nippon LAX. NRT middle seat. I would pay money for an upgrade, but no can do.

Arrive in BKK at 04.30 AM.

I will be zonked for a week upon arrival.

[Explorer8939]

I'm a non-drinker, 1st time visiting. Can I just enter and ask for ST room?

You go into the bar, and order a Coke. Pick a lady, buy her a drink. Then discuss ST with her.

[Explorer8939]

I doubt a Girl who can regularly get 2,000 from Mr Nakamura from Japan is also servicing Mr Somchai from Nakhon Nowhere for 1,000.

A girl getting big bucks is likely to have a live in Thai boyfriend who she gives money to.

For a Thai man to pay money for sex in Pattaya would be rare.

[Nixonbd]

Exactly. And the prices asked from tourists are one step above what is asked from the locals. A women that would be happy with 1000 baht from a thai customer, want 1500-2000 from a tourist. And that is why you just say that you pay max 1000, or 1500 for a younger and cuter one. Check the sideline webpages. See what thais are paying. I have seen several gogo-class girls receiving customers for 30 minutes a 1000 baht. 1500 for 60 minutes. Older ladies get less.

My understanding as to the prices at go- go's was because of the bars paying girls on 10 - 30 day contracts, they have to increase the barfine and sometimes require you buy the girl a required number of lady bar drinks to complete the deal. That's the bars break even pricing. That said, the 8 - 10 rated girls have always been able to command higher ST and LT fares.

[Sky Ryder]

Thailand vet, but Pattaya rookie. Done some research, and while nothing is as good as first hand experience, would like to get opinions about MClub if anyone has one to share. I have heard Heaven is a fun G club, but I have also heard they have had a name change. Any information is appreciated!

TIA.

Sky.

[TopRahul83]

At beer bars thats how it works - buy your drinks, ask Mamasan for ST room. done

I'm a non-drinker, 1st time visiting. Can I just enter and ask for ST room?

[Chan Chalupa]

Pattaya gets this post. Has more action here. Same as Bangkok.

You meet a 3. 5 looker in a Bar.

1. Get married soon?

2. Front $5,000 so she can start a bussiness.

3. Buy a $2,300 scooter, neither of you has a Driver's License.

4. Day after buying scooter get upset she gets a new tattoo, say $100.

5. Agree to $15,000 sin soot.

6. Imply to said Bargirl and her family real estate will be bought soon after marriage.

7. Bought gold,. Not know value.

Would anyone do 1 above let alone all 7?

SUSpendas on you tube. Part of Ice Poseidon s crew. Using crew lightly. Maybe better to say he knows Ice.

Yes he is stupid. No offense.

Wears fake Gucci Outfits. Funny.

Invented the word Jawns. Girls.

[Member #4838]

I'm back in Pattaya for hopefully most or all of the summer.

As I get older, the flight over from the US East coast gets more challenging- both in terms of handling the 26-30 hour flight duration and the 11 hour jet lag time zone displacement. Science* says that one day of recovery is required for every time zone crossed and I've found this to be true. European / Aussie mongers will not experience this problem and think us American's soft but I assure you the struggle is real. I spent my "recovery" time in high energy trekking type stuff in other SEA countries which was probably not wise in some ways but turned out ok. I arrived in Pattaya more or less recovered from the circadian displacement. My plan for future trips is to break the flight up with a day or so in Doha or Dubai, or even 3 or 4 in Istanbul..

I'm on the west coast and it ends up being about the same amount of time for us crossing the pacific and connecting primarily through Japan, the trip ends up being around 30 hours to BKK. In addition, it consists of three flights for me as I don't live near an international hub.

Good to hear things are still well like last year in Pattaya.

Looking forward to your reports.

[Chan Chalupa]

Maybe share some pictures of that girl or her TF profile and you'll probably get some responses as to why.

Price tells me all I need to know. No offense. Hahaha.

[Chan Chalupa]

I'm back in Pattaya for hopefully most or all of the summer.

As I get older, the flight over from the US East coast gets more challenging- both in terms of handling the 26-30 hour flight duration and the 11 hour jet lag time zone displacement. Science* says that one day of recovery is required for every time zone crossed and I've found this to be true. European / Aussie mongers will not experience this problem and think us American's soft but I assure you the struggle is real. I spent my "recovery" time in high energy trekking type stuff in other SEA countries which was probably not wise in some ways but turned out ok. I arrived in Pattaya more or less recovered from the circadian displacement. My plan for future trips is to break the flight up with a day or so in Doha or Dubai, or even 3 or 4 in Istanbul.

I'm not sure if much is all that changed from this time last year- if anything it does seem a bit more energized and populated, but in some ways it really doesn't. More investigation is warranted. My Hotel Manager friend says they had a great "extended season" but come June his bookings have dropped off a cliff and the prices will go down. I'm staying at a high-mid range hotel in the Buakhao area but will switch to one of my favored long term hotels in a week or so..

From my observation guys are not getting Hosed at gogos spending 4-5 times what you spent.

[Chan Chalupa]

It doesn't make sense to refer to good looking girls as gogo-class girls.

Most gogos are filled with more than 5 O% of unattractive girls, a good bunch of average girls (these two categories are the ones that most customers finish with) and a handfull of good looking girls only.

So which category are you referring to? Obviously not the last one.

I'm not Hating on anyone. No offense.

It is apparent some think a girl is a girl is a girl, when it come to looks.

Weird. All same same. Weird.

I doubt a Girl who can regularly get 2,000 from Mr Nakamura from Japan is also servicing Mr Somchai from Nakhon Nowhere for 1,000.

[Paolo99]

Walked in front of Helicopter bar in soi6 this evening and noticed a few Nightwish girls inside.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's now a Nighwish bar too.

[Bunky]

As I get older, the flight over from the US East coast gets more challenging- both in terms of handling the 26-30 hour flight duration and the 11 hour jet lag time zone displacement.

My hotel manager friend says they had a great "extended season" but come June his bookings have dropped off a cliff and the prices will go down. I'm staying at a high-mid range hotel in the Buakhao area but will switch to one of my favored long term hotels in a week or so.

I started things off with a 24 yr old spinner from TF who asked 1500 which I accepted. She was in my range of the type of girl I like: small, slender, age 30 or below, face probably a 6.

I start my trips from the same time zone and I've tangled with the same jet lag. Here's what works for me.

No alcohol during the flight to Thailand. I realize some gents start the holiday clock upon arriving at their hometown airport, and I realize lots of guys use central nervous system depressants of various types to aid sleep while flying. But that just doesn't work for me.

Instead I choose a flight that departs after sundown and I skip the proffered meal. After a few hours, I'm usually tired enough to at least doze a bit. During the layover I again stay sober and limit my snacking to a light bite. The second flight is more difficult because I'm anxious to arrive, but squirming doesn't make the jet fly any faster.

I touchdown in Bangkok around dawn, and the sunrise wakes me up enough to handle the formalities and to get into one of Nam's taxis. The excitement builds during the drive, and I'm usually wide awake by the time we arrive in Pattaya. That gives me several hours of energy to get settled in, to lay in some supplies and to have a bite of lunch. Always at the J. Daeng, by the way. There's just something about being at ground zero in central Pattaya that screams HOLIDAY.

As the afternoon wears on it's the middle of the night on my body clock and it's easy to take a combat nap. The secret is to set the alarm for around sunset, lest my schedule shift into total vampire mode. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.) The first night I'm tempted to go hard. But that's a rookie move. A few drinks and a few laughs with the usual suspects, then perhaps a quick snack and I'm back in bed.

I know I'll bolt awake around dawn, but that's fine. The key is to get outside and walk to breakfast - preferably staying outdoors while dining. For the next few days I still need an afternoon snooze. But usually after three or four days I'm on Pattaya time.

Good to see Mr. Sopheni posting again. I look forward to his take on the ground truth during the low season.

Bunky

[JagerMister]

Been to Pattaya many times only with GF so never had chance to solo explore. This is going to be my first time.

I was wondering if there is short time room in those go go bars?

Do I have to buy lady drink first?

Or I can Straight proceed to do deed?

Think of GoGo Bars sort of like strip clubs. The only difference is there is a higher chance you might get to buy the girl out for short time versus at a strip club.

I think all your questions relate to beer bars on Soi 6 and not Gogo Bars. They're different from each other.

At beer bars thats how it works - buy your drinks, ask Mamasan for ST room. done