Bogota Reports

[Nomars777]

Commentary:

All this argumentation about Santa Fe boils down to differences and disputes about personal taste.

For example, Santa Fe Street girls vs. Clubs: If run down streets, dog shit on the sidewalk, trash everywhere, homeless drug addicts and others around, hood looking dudes milling about who look unsavory, but don't ever say a word to me, etc. If that kind of stuff will bother you intensely, then all the scantily clad girls standing in the doorways won't change it for you. I would say avoid. If you can overlook all or most of the above, focus on the girls, talk to them to see if they have any chemistry with you, and you don't mind bare rooms with sheets that potentially have had more than you and the girl on them that day, then you will be ok and there are some gems to be found. Otherwise, I'd stick to the clubs, where you can relax, have a drink or 5, get some dances or "shows" to see if any girls have good performance and acting skills and then choose one you have the most chemistry with.

Trip / Hotel:

Stayed 3 full days in Bogota, Hotel San Francisco 500 m or. 3 mile from Santa Fe north stroll entrance, straight easy walk to the north end where the club street starts. Great location.

Girls: This trip I found 3 gems out of 5, 2 on the street, 1 in a club.

Friday - 10/6.

Marcela. Gem - North Stroll. West side. Venezola - around the corner to the west and a little south from Triunfo de Dios bakery. Probably 20-21, lighter skinned mixed / black with tight curly hair shoulder length, spectacular body top and bottom, braces (as the younger ones in Colombia all seem to have) I'd put her at a 6+ to 7 face, and a 9 on the body. $40 k for 30 minutes, for $50 k more upgraded to BBBJ and other related activities and it was incredible. Busted very fast, 20 minutes tops, but was a great way to start the trip. I went back to look for her on the next 2 days and she wasn't there. But she was good enough for me to want to go back for another round at least 1-2 more times.

Yennifer- Venezolana - 24 or 25 ish. North stroll as well, west end, said she really enjoyed it in her ass, made her cum more and faster. Obliged. Super plain looking face, but chemistry was good and she sold me on her services. Wasn't my favorite, but after the first one where I came too fast, I wanted something that would take a little while longer to complete and got what I was looking for. Black, big ass, tiny top side, friendly, good enthusiasm, but it was a one and done. I'm not a repeater either, unless they're spectacular.

Saturday - 10/7.

Daniela x2 - Gem. Atoni's club - 26 Venezolana. Bought 2 medio bottles of rum (shared among 5 people), plus coca cola mixer, which both of included at no extra cost full on "shows", basically strip club dances, but mostly naked by the second song. Songs are very long, so it gives you a good 10 minutes to evaluate performance quality. Her's was more than good enough for me to take her up for $120 k for a 20 minute romp and I was well satisfied. Good enthusiasm, good chemistry, great eye contact, which I really love. After the second bottle arrived, was half drunk by the group and another 2-song show, I was re-energized, and we went for round 2. Hit the 25 minute mark and she said "we need more time, give me $20 k for the room lady and she'll let us stay". Done - 40+ minutes second session, no knock, and she went the extra distance to make sure I gave her the leche by enthusiastic cowgirl riding. Both sessions were excellent, she was enthusiastic in both, gave excellent moans, lip biting, fantastic eye-contact and went through multiple positions. BJ was so-so, but sex was great. Great enough to go for a second round. GFE plus performance as well, hand holding, arm stroking, neck rubbing etc. In the VIP area upstairs before and after each show, plus all done randomly and organically seeming (I. E. Not forced), so if that's what you're looking for, check her out. All in I think I dropped $900 k on the bottles, 2 room visits with her, plus other drinks for me and my buddies, Smirnoffs for her (6-8), etc. Over 6+ hours. For $210 USD equivalent, it was well worth it.

Sunday - 10/8.

Tiffany. Negra MILF type. Colombiana probably 35 years old. Giant tits, North Stroll. East side, sits on the corner. Chatted her up my first trip and she was very good at selling her services, but I didn't session. This time, went for a 30 minute, so as to not get the dreaded knock, and it was "ok". A 6 performance but for the price, all good. Definitely a pro no real GFE action, but rides like a champ.

Fabiana. Unexpected gem! - young Venezolana probably 21/22 - Plain face, curly hair, but not as tight of curls as Marcela, darker skinned morena, which I prefer. Probably 6-7 face, depending on if she's smiling or not, but a slim 9+ body according to my scales. Fantastic tits, great ass you just want to grab and smack. This one was probably my favorite of both trips to Santa Fe (August and October) - she's usually on the corner of the north stroll, as you're heading toward the south stroll, where there's a little cantina place that has neon wings or something above the door, where you enter on the right side. She's quite the shit talker and I kept brushing her off last time (August), but gave her $5 k to let me rub her ass, which was nice and got me thinking. This trip, I saw her Friday evening after I'd already been with Marcela, so it was a no-go, gave her $5 k to get something to eat. Finally, on Saturday saw her late afternoon maybe 6 PM, but this was after I'd been with the MILF around 2 PM so I was hemming and hawing about going with her, but she talked so much shit about how she wanted to destroy me and that I always brush her off, and that she'd give me extra special attention and for me to stop being so "terco" (stubborn), I was like "fuck it, yeah, let's go". Well, it was great, no doubt. One of my best ever. BBBJ with excellent deep throat skills, hardly any gagging. Went for nearly 15 minutes at this, stopped, was about to ride me, but then said no, I want more of this and went back to sucking. Upgraded prior to going to the room for that and extra time to enjoy other BB activities, which she used in multiple positions to the very end of our 40 minutes, even after the first knock, kept going to the second knock at which point we stopped. $100 k, plus I paid the $10 k for the room and another $40 k to take a video and a couple of photos. I must've bumped the record button twice, because while I was sure I got well over a minute recorded, it was more like 5 seconds, but at least I got the 2 good photos. Need to be more careful with the record button next time!

Monday - 10/9.

Paola - 27 Venezolana. Went 9 AM on Monday and shockingly quite a few girls out. Mostly older ones, so if you like MILFs try the morning. Went with Paola for $50 k for 20 minutes. Definitely a professional, not a lick of GFE anywhere, but decent enough service and gave nice moaning while being pounded from behind. She is lactating (has a 1 why / o), so she didn't want to take the tits out, but finally did without me asking when she was riding cowgirl, very nice natural small firm and perky tits. Would I repeat? Probably not, but if you're a fan of the classic looking South American latina, with drawn on eyebrows, pretty smile, nice teeth, slim ass and small tits, she'll do the job.

All in all, I enjoyed this trip to Santa Fe more than my first one in August, but I think the first one I was unfamiliar with the strolls, couldn't make up my mind on street girls vs. Clubs, spent too much time strolling and debating, when I should have just gone with the first or second one that easily met my tastes in that moment. Instead I was like a gambler, always thinking the next time around the block I would find something better. This time, I went with the first or second one that ticked most of my boxes and it worked out well.

[Woodman09]

I went to SF and each time I got what I wanted in term of talents, I am European and we mostly are going for slim beauties. May be because I speak fluent Spanish but I got through easily and in the very noisy clubs I think that you can communicate with broken English. That said The 30 minutes sessions are shorter as madam is knocking on doors before, this is documented in several posts. For first visit I went with Woodman tour and this was helpful to have a quick understand how all work and where to go.

I stayed in clubs as even if I did spot nice chicks on streets some looked obviously underage And I felt more secure to stick in clubs.

I don't pay for extra time-- But I use the time allotted to get down to business-. I am the King of the Quickee- I am usually all over my chicas when we get in the room-- I get them out of their clothes as fast as possible. Most girls I go with will let me finish even if there is a knock-- I have banged 10 minutes+ after the knock but more often than not the knock never comes.

Just the other night I finally banged fake Salma Hayek at Atonis-- It was fantastic and I shall write about that soon-- I had a few problems because of drinking beer but I was able to finish with her -- I swear we were banging for 35+ minutes-- I did tip the maid 2 mil before we went iin and she has seen me many times as I have hanged many chicas there over the years.

You can pay for extra time and make a special deal with the girl if you want more time-- The allotted time is 15-20 minutes-- in Troya-Fiebre-Paisa it is 25-30 minutes.

[Nomars777]

You won't find any 9's in Santa Fe. No 4's, 5's or 6's either. You'll just find women. All those numbers depend entirely on who is looking at the girls. Guys, not just Woodman, are always talking about 7's, 8's and 9's in Santa Fe, because the women they found fit with what they're looking for.

The issue isn't so much about the appearance of the girls. If you make enough laps, you'll likely find a girl who meets your minimum requirements. It's about the experience. For guys who like the street action, SF is a goldmine. They enjoy talking with the girls, getting an impression and finding the right one. Or they like the atmosphere in the clubs.

However, not everyone likes that. For many, online interactions work better. It makes communication easier, it gives you time to think about what your saying and everything takes place in your nice, clean, comfortable room.

Woodman will always talk up SF, not because it's a source of income, but because it's the type of environment he thrives in. Same as there are guys talking up the different spas, orcescort services. Those type of experiences are what most appeal to them.

Commentary:

All this argumentation about Santa Fe boils down to differences and disputes about personal taste. If run down streets, dog shit on the sidewalk, trash everywhere, homeless drug addicts and others around, hood looking dudes milling about who look unsavory, but generally don't ever say a word to me, etc. If that stuff bother you intensely, then all the scantily clad girls standing in the doorways won't change it for you. I would say avoid. If you can overlook all of the above, focus on the girls, talk to them to see if they have any chemistry with you, and you don't mind bare rooms with sheets that potentially have had more than you and the girl on them that day, then you will be ok and there are some gems to be found.

Trip / Hotel:

Stayed 3 full days in Bogota, Hotel San Francisco 500 m or. 3 mile from Santa Fe north stroll entrance, straight easy walk to the north end where the club street starts. Great location.

Girls:

This trip I found 3 gems out of 5, 2 on the street, 1 in a club.

Friday - 10/6.

Marcela. Gem - North Stroll. West side. Venezola - around the corner to the west and a little south from Triunfo de Dios bakery. Probably 20-21, lighter skinned mixed / black with tight curly hair shoulder length, spectacular body top and bottom, braces (as the younger ones in Colombia all seem to have) I'd put her at a 6+ to 7 face, and a 9 on the body. $40 k for 30 minutes, for $50 k more upgraded to BBBJ and other related activities and it was incredible. Busted very fast, 20 minutes tops, but was a great way to start the trip. I went back to look for her on the next 2 days and she wasn't there. But she was good enough for me to want to go back for another round at least 1-2 more times.

Yennifer- Venezolana - 24 or 25 ish. North stroll as well, west end, said she really enjoyed it in her ass, made her cum more and faster. Obliged. Super plain looking, but chemistry was good and she sold me on her services. Wasn't my favorite, but after the first one where I came too fast, I wanted something that would take a little while longer to complete and got what I was looking for. Black, big ass, tiny top side, friendly, good enthusiasm, but it was a one and done. I'm not a repeater either, unless they're spectacular.

Saturday - 10/7.

Daniela x2 - Gem. Atoni's club - 26 Venezolana. Bought 2 medio bottles of rum (shared among 5 people), plus coca cola mixer, which both of included at no extra cost full on "shows", basically strip club dances, but mostly naked by the second song. Songs are very long, so it gives you a good 10 minutes to evaluate performance quality. Her's was more than good enough for me to take her up for $120 k for a 20 minute romp and I was well satisfied. Good enthusiasm, good chemistry, great eye contact, which I really love. After the second bottle arrived, was half drunk by the group and another 2-song show, I was re-energized, and we went for round 2. Hit the 25 minute mark and she said "we need more time, give me $20 k for the room lady and she'll let us stay". Done - 40+ minutes second session, no knock, and she went the extra distance to make sure I gave her the leche by enthusiastic cowgirl riding. Both sessions were excellent, she was enthusiastic in both, gave excellent moans, lip biting, fantastic eye-contact and went through multiple positions. BJ was so-so, but sex was great. Great enough to go for a second round. GFE plus performance as well, hand holding, arm stroking, neck rubbing etc. In the VIP area upstairs before and after each show, plus all done randomly and organically seeming (I. E. Not forced), so if that's what you're looking for, check her out. All in I think I dropped $900 k on the bottles, 2 room visits with her, plus other drinks for me and my buddies, Smirnoffs for her (6-8), etc. Over 6+ hours. For $210 USD equivalent, it was well worth it.

Sunday - 10/8.

Tiffany. Negra MILF type. Colombiana probably 35 years old. Giant tits, North Stroll. East side, sits on the corner. Chatted her up my first trip and she was very good at selling her services, but I didn't session. This time, went for a 30 minute, so as to not get the dreaded knock, and it was "ok". A 6 performance but for the price, all good. Definitely a pro no real GFE action, but rides like a champ.

Fabiana. Unexpected gem. Young Venezolana probably 21/22 - Plain face, curly hair, but not as tight of curls as Marcela, darker skinned morena, which I prefer. Probably 6-7 face, depending on if she's smiling or not, but a slim 9+ body according to my scales. Fantastic tits, great ass you just want to grab and smack. This one was probably my favorite of both trips to Santa Fe (August and October) - she's usually on the corner of the north stroll, as you're heading toward the south stroll, where there's a little cantina place that has neon wings or something above the door. She's quite the shit talker and I kept brushing her off last time (August), but gave her $5 k to let me rub her ass, which was nice and got me thinking. This trip, I saw her Friday evening after I'd already been with Marcela, so it was a no-go, gave her $5 k to get something to eat. Finally, on Saturday saw her late afternoon maybe 6 PM, but this was after I'd been with the MILF around 2 PM so I was hemming and hawing about going with her, but she talked so much shit about how she wanted to destroy me and that I always brush her off, and that she'd give me extra special attention and for me to stop being so "terco" (stubborn), I was like "fuck it, yeah, let's go". Well, it was great, no doubt. One of my best ever. BBBJ with excellent deep throat skills, hardly any gagging. Went for nearly 15 minutes at this, stopped, was about to ride me, but then said no, I want more of this and went back to sucking. Upgraded prior to going to the room for that and extra time to enjoy other BB activities, which she used in multiple positions to the very end of our 40 minutes, even after the first knock, kept going to the second knock at which point we stopped. $100 k, plus I paid the $10 k for the room and another $40 k to take a video and a couple of photos. I must've bumped the record button twice, because while I was sure I got well over a minute recorded, it was more like 5 seconds, but at least I got the 2 good photos. Need to be more careful with the record button next time!

Monday - 10/9.

Paola - 27 Venezolana. Went 9 AM on Monday and shockingly quite a few girls out. Mostly older ones, so if you like MILFs try the morning. Went with Paola for $50 k for 20 minutes. Definitely a professional, not a lick of GFE anywhere, but decent enough service and gave nice moaning while being pounded from behind. Is lactating, so she didn't want to take the tits out, but finally did without me asking again when she was riding cowgirl, very nice natural small firm and perky tits. Would I repeat? Probably not, but if you're a fan of the classic looking South American latina, with drawn on eyebrows, pretty smile, nice teeth, slim ass and small tits, she'll do the job.

All in all, I enjoyed this trip to Santa Fe more than my first one in August, but I think the first one I was unfamiliar with the strolls, couldn't make up my mind on street girls vs. Clubs, spent too much time strolling and debating, when I should have just gone with the first or second one that met my tastes. This time, I did that and it worked out well. So, if you see one that makes your dick hard and you want to fuck her, do it. Otherwise, you'll end up walking the strolls 6-8 times and when you think you'll go back for the one you liked when you saw her, she'll be gone.

[Carle]

How many days have I been to SF this year? I'll tell you. Zero days. Do you know why? Because I don't see the quality I'm looking for. All the "hot" girls you are talking about. Why would I visit a place that sucks (for me, personally)?

How many days do you think I need to spend in SF to figure out if the place is up to my standards and is worth frequenting? 10? 20? 90? Or 150? This is not a rocket science. It's like going to a new restaurant or a bar. You go for the first time, check it out, if the food or service, or both, suck, then what's the point of coming back? You might give it another try or even two, but if it sucks again and again, the place becomes a no go.

I have spent enough time in SF to draw a conclusion that it lacks the talent I'm looking for. I gave it multiple tries, on weekdays and weekends, sunny days, rainy days, late nights and early afternoons, different times of the year. Sessioned twice. Both sessions were nothing to write home about.

Heck, if SF really had all the talent you are talking about, I would be hanging there all the time. But our perceptions of beauty are completely different. Plus, SF is part of your business, so it is obvious you have to promote it.

I went to SF and each time I got what I wanted in term of talents, I am European and we mostly are going for slim beauties. May be because I speak fluent Spanish but I got through easily and in the very noisy clubs I think that you can communicate with broken English. That said The 30 minutes sessions are shorter as madam is knocking on doors before, this is documented in several posts. For first visit I went with Woodman tour and this was helpful to have a quick understand how all work and where to go.

I stayed in clubs as even if I did spot nice chicks on streets some looked obviously underage And I felt more secure to stick in clubs.

[JjBee62]

Anyone with even a handful of trips to Latin America can know in seconds they are being played. After 30 years at this hobby and probably longer than your alive. Best you neophytes just read the information and use it or go on to other posts. No need for you to try and shoot holes in texts meant to help keep mongers with little experience safe.

The other side of the story is, even guys with hundreds of trips can fall prey to a scheme, drop their guard at the wrong time, or be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

This is just my guess, but I believe that more experienced mongers fall victim to crime than newbies.

Newbies tend to seek out wingman, or stick to more secure areas. Experienced guys do their thing in familiar places. It's easier for them to relax, and sometimes they get too relaxed.

However, most crimes don't get reported here. For most victims of minor crime, the overriding feeling is embarrassment.

[Mr Enternational]

If you have spent any time at all with the 60% of Bogotanos on minimum wage then surely you know these people don't have the money to live anywhere but zone 1 housing, or maybe you don't.

So they should just stay there continuing to get robbed and killed is what you are saying?

[LatinaLover#1]

The multiple police / security personnel at the Calle 22 bus stop didn't do anything. Hmm.

Hmm. There are some posters here that we should not hang out together. They "know" people that are constantly mugged / robbed / scoped etc multiple times.

OK. I know this girl who's my regular. She constantly texts me that her phone got stolen, her place got damaged by the earthquake, etc. And needs money. She has a whole list of gringos in her contacts (I saw it; LOL!)

Interesting that a lot of people only hears about all these stories. Never actually sees it. Just saying.

Anyone with even a handful of trips to Latin America can know in seconds they are being played. After 30 years at this hobby and probably longer than your alive. Best you neophytes just read the information and use it or go on to other posts. No need for you to try and shoot holes in texts meant to help keep mongers with little experience safe.

[LatinaLover#1]

Sounds like street smart must be their only smart. After all this shit they are not smart enough to move? Just stay until they finally get killed I guess. Like that lady in Chicago had 7 kids. 5 of them got killed and she is still living in the same place. That is not only insane, but also dumb.

If you have spent any time at all with the 60% of Bogotanos on minimum wage then surely you know these people don't have the money to live anywhere but zone 1 housing, or maybe you don't.

[JjBee62]

I'm no hater, but other posters, especially newbies, should take your post with a grain of salt. SF is cheap, hoes are in abundance, but the quality is low. If one has low standards and is on a budget, SF is a good place to visit. For someone seeking quality, SF is a no go. You will not see a 9+ on the street there. Bunch of 4', 5's and 6's, very few 6. 5-7's on a good day. Club girls are a bit better, but not even close to "more than half were 7-8 quality". The best looking girls are usually taken. If you want to be her 5th or 7th dick for the night, more power to you.

Guys, adjust your expectations accordingly, otherwise you will be disappointed.

You won't find any 9's in Santa Fe. No 4's, 5's or 6's either. You'll just find women. All those numbers depend entirely on who is looking at the girls. Guys, not just Woodman, are always talking about 7's, 8's and 9's in Santa Fe, because the women they found fit with what they're looking for.

The issue isn't so much about the appearance of the girls. If you make enough laps, you'll likely find a girl who meets your minimum requirements. It's about the experience. For guys who like the street action, SF is a goldmine. They enjoy talking with the girls, getting an impression and finding the right one. Or they like the atmosphere in the clubs.

However, not everyone likes that. For many, online interactions work better. It makes communication easier, it gives you time to think about what your saying and everything takes place in your nice, clean, comfortable room.

Woodman will always talk up SF, not because it's a source of income, but because it's the type of environment he thrives in. Same as there are guys talking up the different spas, orcescort services. Those type of experiences are what most appeal to them.

[MiamiBoy1]

You Can Message Rocketeer and Scholar-- they WERE there-- unlike you-- just Seyin-.

As a matter of fact-- many of my reports have ISG member eye witnesses-.

There Are Seeking Quality Girls there and probably Actual Members-.

So funny how you SA Joes who never go anywhere accept to dinner and back to hotel think they have the patent on good pussy and act like they know everything-.

But seriously though-- How many days have you been to Santa Fe this year? 10--20-- 2- or 1? And you just rode throough in a taxi-- LOL-- I am Guessing vey few. -.

-- I have been there 150+ days this year ALONE-- I was there last night and tonight-- So were a few members who can chime in and tell you about the quality-.

Sometimes the stars a line and Most of the girls are hot-- Other times not as much but always some hot girls-.

Try to write about what you know-- Good Luck!!

How many days have I been to SF this year? I'll tell you. Zero days. Do you know why? Because I don't see the quality I'm looking for. All the "hot" girls you are talking about. Why would I visit a place that sucks (for me, personally)?

How many days do you think I need to spend in SF to figure out if the place is up to my standards and is worth frequenting? 10? 20? 90? Or 150? This is not a rocket science. It's like going to a new restaurant or a bar. You go for the first time, check it out, if the food or service, or both, suck, then what's the point of coming back? You might give it another try or even two, but if it sucks again and again, the place becomes a no go.

I have spent enough time in SF to draw a conclusion that it lacks the talent I'm looking for. I gave it multiple tries, on weekdays and weekends, sunny days, rainy days, late nights and early afternoons, different times of the year. Sessioned twice. Both sessions were nothing to write home about.

Heck, if SF really had all the talent you are talking about, I would be hanging there all the time. But our perceptions of beauty are completely different. Plus, SF is part of your business, so it is obvious you have to promote it.

[Zeos1]

So you suspect 70 year old men are out holding people up?

In some cases, probably. But there have been ongoing replacement with younger recruits. Lots of more recent groups of all kinds. Basically a country with a very deep culture of violence with multiple levels on the left, right, drugs. Etc.

[Mr Enternational]

There are tens of thousands of "retired" guerrillas in the country after around 50 years of war in parts of the country and many of these would have no problem pulling the trigger.

So you suspect 70 year old men are out holding people up?

[Carle]

Cops may be in the area. But if they are more than a few feet away they would not even be aware of something like that. Crowds will do nothing to interfere. Anyway. I don't have any personal stories of a violent or threatened violent hold up. But I know of so many that have happened to locals and tourists that they are not uncommon. Mostly with guns, all over within 30 seconds. Usually no shots, just someone pulls a gun on someone and you give them your wallet and cellphone. There are tens of thousands of "retired" guerrillas in the country after around 50 years of war in parts of the country and many of these would have no problem pulling the trigger. Hitmen are very cheap to hire. And now you have up to a million displaced people from Venezuela also in the mix. It is still a pretty raw place in spite of the progress that they have made in reducing kidnappings, etc.

I was there two night and allways felt safe, first night around 1 AM with Woodman we were heading walking to Tequendama Suites when suddenly 2 cops on small motorbike came and told us it was unsafe to walk in dark areas, they even accompanied me up to the hotel.

Is Santa Fe area look very safe but just in cas I will take taxis, to first crowed area. For me Santa Fe clubs have gems and I did enjoy. By the way Woodman tour is worth to try it gave me a very good outlook of options and all clubs guys did salute me the next day.

[Zeos1]

There are ALWAYS police / security on the TM Calle 22 bus stop (Santa Fe stop) and Calle 85 (Zona T bus stop).

Ya, there are 3 platforms on the Calle 22 stop. Police might be in the middle socializing among themselves. But there is the clerk in his box at beginning of the platform.

I would assume the police / security personnel would do their job and call for back-up. Too much to assume?

Since 2018, I've observed 2 incidents in Santa Fe that required police / ambulance. Once, local guys attacked 2 guys just walking in a crowded area. Assuming they were members of another gang or thieves / drug sellers that were warned. Cops were there in about a minute. Another time, saw a motorcycle accident in front of the gas station. Cops and 2 ambulances where there in about couple of minutes.

I always assume that I am safe in the main areas of Santa Fe during normal hours. Business owners don't want crime in front of their stores. The cartel that controls the area don't want their drug customers getting mugged in the area they control. The cops don't want muggings in their beat. With the advent of the cell phones, cops can be there in a minute. False assumptions?

Cops may be in the area. But if they are more than a few feet away they would not even be aware of something like that. Crowds will do nothing to interfere. Anyway. I don't have any personal stories of a violent or threatened violent hold up. But I know of so many that have happened to locals and tourists that they are not uncommon. Mostly with guns, all over within 30 seconds. Usually no shots, just someone pulls a gun on someone and you give them your wallet and cellphone. There are tens of thousands of "retired" guerrillas in the country after around 50 years of war in parts of the country and many of these would have no problem pulling the trigger. Hitmen are very cheap to hire. And now you have up to a million displaced people from Venezuela also in the mix. It is still a pretty raw place in spite of the progress that they have made in reducing kidnappings, etc.

[Woodman09]

I'm no hater, but other posters, especially newbies, should take your post with a grain of salt. SF is cheap, hoes are in abundance, but the quality is low. If one has low standards and is on a budget, SF is a good place to visit. For someone seeking quality, SF is a no go. You will not see a 9+ on the street there. Bunch of 4', 5's and 6's, very few 6. 5-7's on a good day. Club girls are a bit better, but not even close to "more than half were 7-8 quality". The best looking girls are usually taken. If you want to be her 5th or 7th dick for the night, more power to you.

Guys, adjust your expectations accordingly, otherwise you will be disappointed.

You Can Message Rocketeer and Scholar-- they WERE there-- unlike you-- just Seyin-.

As a matter of fact-- many of my reports have ISG member eye witnesses-.

There Are Seeking Quality Girls there and probably Actual Members-.

So funny how you SA Joes who never go anywhere accept to dinner and back to hotel think they have the patent on good pussy and act like they know everything-.

But seriously though-- How many days have you been to Santa Fe this year? 10--20-- 2- or 1? And you just rode throough in a taxi-- LOL-- I am Guessing vey few. -.

-- I have been there 150+ days this year ALONE-- I was there last night and tonight-- So were a few members who can chime in and tell you about the quality-.

Sometimes the stars a line and Most of the girls are hot-- Other times not as much but always some hot girls-.

Try to write about what you know-- Good Luck!!