Bogota Reports

[Carle]

How many days have I been to SF this year? I'll tell you. Zero days. Do you know why? Because I don't see the quality I'm looking for. All the "hot" girls you are talking about. Why would I visit a place that sucks (for me, personally)?

How many days do you think I need to spend in SF to figure out if the place is up to my standards and is worth frequenting? 10? 20? 90? Or 150? This is not a rocket science. It's like going to a new restaurant or a bar. You go for the first time, check it out, if the food or service, or both, suck, then what's the point of coming back? You might give it another try or even two, but if it sucks again and again, the place becomes a no go.

I have spent enough time in SF to draw a conclusion that it lacks the talent I'm looking for. I gave it multiple tries, on weekdays and weekends, sunny days, rainy days, late nights and early afternoons, different times of the year. Sessioned twice. Both sessions were nothing to write home about.

Heck, if SF really had all the talent you are talking about, I would be hanging there all the time. But our perceptions of beauty are completely different. Plus, SF is part of your business, so it is obvious you have to promote it.

I went to SF and each time I got what I wanted in term of talents, I am European and we mostly are going for slim beauties. May be because I speak fluent Spanish but I got through easily and in the very noisy clubs I think that you can communicate with broken English. That said The 30 minutes sessions are shorter as madam is knocking on doors before, this is documented in several posts. For first visit I went with Woodman tour and this was helpful to have a quick understand how all work and where to go.

I stayed in clubs as even if I did spot nice chicks on streets some looked obviously underage And I felt more secure to stick in clubs.

[JjBee62]

Anyone with even a handful of trips to Latin America can know in seconds they are being played. After 30 years at this hobby and probably longer than your alive. Best you neophytes just read the information and use it or go on to other posts. No need for you to try and shoot holes in texts meant to help keep mongers with little experience safe.

The other side of the story is, even guys with hundreds of trips can fall prey to a scheme, drop their guard at the wrong time, or be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

This is just my guess, but I believe that more experienced mongers fall victim to crime than newbies.

Newbies tend to seek out wingman, or stick to more secure areas. Experienced guys do their thing in familiar places. It's easier for them to relax, and sometimes they get too relaxed.

However, most crimes don't get reported here. For most victims of minor crime, the overriding feeling is embarrassment.

[Mr Enternational]

If you have spent any time at all with the 60% of Bogotanos on minimum wage then surely you know these people don't have the money to live anywhere but zone 1 housing, or maybe you don't.

So they should just stay there continuing to get robbed and killed is what you are saying?

[LatinaLover#1]

The multiple police / security personnel at the Calle 22 bus stop didn't do anything. Hmm.

Hmm. There are some posters here that we should not hang out together. They "know" people that are constantly mugged / robbed / scoped etc multiple times.

OK. I know this girl who's my regular. She constantly texts me that her phone got stolen, her place got damaged by the earthquake, etc. And needs money. She has a whole list of gringos in her contacts (I saw it; LOL!)

Interesting that a lot of people only hears about all these stories. Never actually sees it. Just saying.

Anyone with even a handful of trips to Latin America can know in seconds they are being played. After 30 years at this hobby and probably longer than your alive. Best you neophytes just read the information and use it or go on to other posts. No need for you to try and shoot holes in texts meant to help keep mongers with little experience safe.

[LatinaLover#1]

Sounds like street smart must be their only smart. After all this shit they are not smart enough to move? Just stay until they finally get killed I guess. Like that lady in Chicago had 7 kids. 5 of them got killed and she is still living in the same place. That is not only insane, but also dumb.

If you have spent any time at all with the 60% of Bogotanos on minimum wage then surely you know these people don't have the money to live anywhere but zone 1 housing, or maybe you don't.

[JjBee62]

I'm no hater, but other posters, especially newbies, should take your post with a grain of salt. SF is cheap, hoes are in abundance, but the quality is low. If one has low standards and is on a budget, SF is a good place to visit. For someone seeking quality, SF is a no go. You will not see a 9+ on the street there. Bunch of 4', 5's and 6's, very few 6. 5-7's on a good day. Club girls are a bit better, but not even close to "more than half were 7-8 quality". The best looking girls are usually taken. If you want to be her 5th or 7th dick for the night, more power to you.

Guys, adjust your expectations accordingly, otherwise you will be disappointed.

You won't find any 9's in Santa Fe. No 4's, 5's or 6's either. You'll just find women. All those numbers depend entirely on who is looking at the girls. Guys, not just Woodman, are always talking about 7's, 8's and 9's in Santa Fe, because the women they found fit with what they're looking for.

The issue isn't so much about the appearance of the girls. If you make enough laps, you'll likely find a girl who meets your minimum requirements. It's about the experience. For guys who like the street action, SF is a goldmine. They enjoy talking with the girls, getting an impression and finding the right one. Or they like the atmosphere in the clubs.

However, not everyone likes that. For many, online interactions work better. It makes communication easier, it gives you time to think about what your saying and everything takes place in your nice, clean, comfortable room.

Woodman will always talk up SF, not because it's a source of income, but because it's the type of environment he thrives in. Same as there are guys talking up the different spas, orcescort services. Those type of experiences are what most appeal to them.

[MiamiBoy1]

You Can Message Rocketeer and Scholar-- they WERE there-- unlike you-- just Seyin-.

As a matter of fact-- many of my reports have ISG member eye witnesses-.

There Are Seeking Quality Girls there and probably Actual Members-.

So funny how you SA Joes who never go anywhere accept to dinner and back to hotel think they have the patent on good pussy and act like they know everything-.

But seriously though-- How many days have you been to Santa Fe this year? 10--20-- 2- or 1? And you just rode throough in a taxi-- LOL-- I am Guessing vey few. -.

-- I have been there 150+ days this year ALONE-- I was there last night and tonight-- So were a few members who can chime in and tell you about the quality-.

Sometimes the stars a line and Most of the girls are hot-- Other times not as much but always some hot girls-.

Try to write about what you know-- Good Luck!!

How many days have I been to SF this year? I'll tell you. Zero days. Do you know why? Because I don't see the quality I'm looking for. All the "hot" girls you are talking about. Why would I visit a place that sucks (for me, personally)?

How many days do you think I need to spend in SF to figure out if the place is up to my standards and is worth frequenting? 10? 20? 90? Or 150? This is not a rocket science. It's like going to a new restaurant or a bar. You go for the first time, check it out, if the food or service, or both, suck, then what's the point of coming back? You might give it another try or even two, but if it sucks again and again, the place becomes a no go.

I have spent enough time in SF to draw a conclusion that it lacks the talent I'm looking for. I gave it multiple tries, on weekdays and weekends, sunny days, rainy days, late nights and early afternoons, different times of the year. Sessioned twice. Both sessions were nothing to write home about.

Heck, if SF really had all the talent you are talking about, I would be hanging there all the time. But our perceptions of beauty are completely different. Plus, SF is part of your business, so it is obvious you have to promote it.

[Zeos1]

So you suspect 70 year old men are out holding people up?

In some cases, probably. But there have been ongoing replacement with younger recruits. Lots of more recent groups of all kinds. Basically a country with a very deep culture of violence with multiple levels on the left, right, drugs. Etc.

[Mr Enternational]

There are tens of thousands of "retired" guerrillas in the country after around 50 years of war in parts of the country and many of these would have no problem pulling the trigger.

So you suspect 70 year old men are out holding people up?

[Carle]

Cops may be in the area. But if they are more than a few feet away they would not even be aware of something like that. Crowds will do nothing to interfere. Anyway. I don't have any personal stories of a violent or threatened violent hold up. But I know of so many that have happened to locals and tourists that they are not uncommon. Mostly with guns, all over within 30 seconds. Usually no shots, just someone pulls a gun on someone and you give them your wallet and cellphone. There are tens of thousands of "retired" guerrillas in the country after around 50 years of war in parts of the country and many of these would have no problem pulling the trigger. Hitmen are very cheap to hire. And now you have up to a million displaced people from Venezuela also in the mix. It is still a pretty raw place in spite of the progress that they have made in reducing kidnappings, etc.

I was there two night and allways felt safe, first night around 1 AM with Woodman we were heading walking to Tequendama Suites when suddenly 2 cops on small motorbike came and told us it was unsafe to walk in dark areas, they even accompanied me up to the hotel.

Is Santa Fe area look very safe but just in cas I will take taxis, to first crowed area. For me Santa Fe clubs have gems and I did enjoy. By the way Woodman tour is worth to try it gave me a very good outlook of options and all clubs guys did salute me the next day.

[Zeos1]

There are ALWAYS police / security on the TM Calle 22 bus stop (Santa Fe stop) and Calle 85 (Zona T bus stop).

Ya, there are 3 platforms on the Calle 22 stop. Police might be in the middle socializing among themselves. But there is the clerk in his box at beginning of the platform.

I would assume the police / security personnel would do their job and call for back-up. Too much to assume?

Since 2018, I've observed 2 incidents in Santa Fe that required police / ambulance. Once, local guys attacked 2 guys just walking in a crowded area. Assuming they were members of another gang or thieves / drug sellers that were warned. Cops were there in about a minute. Another time, saw a motorcycle accident in front of the gas station. Cops and 2 ambulances where there in about couple of minutes.

I always assume that I am safe in the main areas of Santa Fe during normal hours. Business owners don't want crime in front of their stores. The cartel that controls the area don't want their drug customers getting mugged in the area they control. The cops don't want muggings in their beat. With the advent of the cell phones, cops can be there in a minute. False assumptions?

Cops may be in the area. But if they are more than a few feet away they would not even be aware of something like that. Crowds will do nothing to interfere. Anyway. I don't have any personal stories of a violent or threatened violent hold up. But I know of so many that have happened to locals and tourists that they are not uncommon. Mostly with guns, all over within 30 seconds. Usually no shots, just someone pulls a gun on someone and you give them your wallet and cellphone. There are tens of thousands of "retired" guerrillas in the country after around 50 years of war in parts of the country and many of these would have no problem pulling the trigger. Hitmen are very cheap to hire. And now you have up to a million displaced people from Venezuela also in the mix. It is still a pretty raw place in spite of the progress that they have made in reducing kidnappings, etc.

[Woodman09]

I'm no hater, but other posters, especially newbies, should take your post with a grain of salt. SF is cheap, hoes are in abundance, but the quality is low. If one has low standards and is on a budget, SF is a good place to visit. For someone seeking quality, SF is a no go. You will not see a 9+ on the street there. Bunch of 4', 5's and 6's, very few 6. 5-7's on a good day. Club girls are a bit better, but not even close to "more than half were 7-8 quality". The best looking girls are usually taken. If you want to be her 5th or 7th dick for the night, more power to you.

Guys, adjust your expectations accordingly, otherwise you will be disappointed.

You Can Message Rocketeer and Scholar-- they WERE there-- unlike you-- just Seyin-.

As a matter of fact-- many of my reports have ISG member eye witnesses-.

There Are Seeking Quality Girls there and probably Actual Members-.

So funny how you SA Joes who never go anywhere accept to dinner and back to hotel think they have the patent on good pussy and act like they know everything-.

But seriously though-- How many days have you been to Santa Fe this year? 10--20-- 2- or 1? And you just rode throough in a taxi-- LOL-- I am Guessing vey few. -.

-- I have been there 150+ days this year ALONE-- I was there last night and tonight-- So were a few members who can chime in and tell you about the quality-.

Sometimes the stars a line and Most of the girls are hot-- Other times not as much but always some hot girls-.

Try to write about what you know-- Good Luck!!

[Mr Enternational]

At lunchtime I was going through my restaurant list but did not feel like going to any of the places on it. I ended up going to this new place downtown called #Pollos. It was a joint with only barbecue chicken. It gets a thumbs up for me.

What I do not get about Colombia is why they try to squeeze restaurants and bars into these narrow ass spaces? It is like they are not even expecting to get a crowd. 4 by 12 space? Perfect. Now let's see if we can fit 10 tables and 40 chairs inside.

[Mr Enternational]

I hit Santa Fe today at 5 pm. I did 2 laps around the whole place in 40 minutes. Not too many people out but there were enough. Ended up getting a chick across from the old Piscina. Paisa from the Eje Cafetero. She told me 50,000 but quickly went down to 40,000 without me saying anything. Got to the window and handed her 50,000. She gave it to the lady behind the window then gave me 10,000 back out of her purse. The lady behind the glass gave her 40,000 back.

Got to the room and she kept asking didn't I see you walk by earlier? I said yep and I ended up coming back just for you. Nice GFE. If I was a repeater I would have gotten her info. When we finished up she asked me for money for coffee. I said you were just drinking coffee when I walked up. She said that was milk. I said how much is it 500? I gave her 500 tip and she said it is 1000 but thanks.

I went down to get some meat (no homo) from Alejandro. The Troya guys kept trying to get me to go inside. I said man I just came over here to check out Alejo, but I see he is closed today. I called Indriver and headed back to the crib.

I came back to Santa Fe at 10 pm and it was pretty much a ghost town. I ended up getting a chick for 40,000 but seems I let my eyes overload my ass. I couldn't get my dick hard for anything. I said well this is an easy 40,000 for you. She told me I should get an hour for 80,000 that way I can relax and get in the groove. I said nah, I am not trying to throw money at the problem. I will just live to fuck another day. Called Indriver and headed back to the crib.

[GreenBud]

I've been on lots of these platforms and never saw police

There are ALWAYS police / security on the TM Calle 22 bus stop (Santa Fe stop) and Calle 85 (Zona T bus stop).

As if the police or security people at a bus stop would even see it let alone do anything.

Ya, there are 3 platforms on the Calle 22 stop. Police might be in the middle socializing among themselves. But there is the clerk in his box at beginning of the platform.

I would assume the police / security personnel would do their job and call for back-up. Too much to assume?

Since 2018, I've observed 2 incidents in Santa Fe that required police / ambulance. Once, local guys attacked 2 guys just walking in a crowded area. Assuming they were members of another gang or thieves / drug sellers that were warned. Cops were there in about a minute. Another time, saw a motorcycle accident in front of the gas station. Cops and 2 ambulances where there in about couple of minutes.

I always assume that I am safe in the main areas of Santa Fe during normal hours. Business owners don't want crime in front of their stores. The cartel that controls the area don't want their drug customers getting mugged in the area they control. The cops don't want muggings in their beat. With the advent of the cell phones, cops can be there in a minute. False assumptions?