Pattaya Reports

[Belvaros]

Guy needs yo learn how to leg sweep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gSZakNVSmQ

In the real world, individuals that still have semblance of their bounded rationality in tact, find an another method to purchase items when faced with unfavorable market conditions. But this is not the real world, this is Pattaya. Where individuals arrive with condoms in one pocket, THB in the other and a blood stream full of 200 grams of their favorite ED meds. My solution to all of the problems I read about currently going on in the bars is to simply avoid bar fines.

Speaking of that, two nights ago contacted a girl from Thai Friendly. She accepted my offer of 1000ST along with my performance conditions. Arrived within 30 minutes. She accepted my offer of a drink and picked what she wanted from the full bar I maintain. I mixed it up. I am an excellent bartender and she is a smart girl. She watched me make her drink. After the drink she hit the bathroom and came out naked. The performance was off the chain. Gave her a 100 THB tip. No fuss. No mess (except for the one I made and she cleaned up) and no bar fines.

So, this morning to see if it was just a one off I invited her over again. Same 30 minute arrival time. Same off the chain performance, but different. 1100 THB. Once again no bar fines. She has made the team in a back up roll. More tryouts tonight.

I have run into attractive girls off of Thai Friendly that tell me I will accept my 1000 offer but I need to give them another 300,500 to pay their bar. I always politely decline and tell them to get with me in their off hours. I don't see why I should pay extra for something that does nothing for me. There is an individual that questions giving money to girls for nothing. Paying a bar fine is giving the owners of a bar money for nothing. You don't even get a drink with it. Now, I pay a subscription fee for Thai Friendly. But there is an entire website infrastructure that they have built. In my opinion the bar system is exploitive of the girls and I will not participate. No further than buying a drink for an attractive girl that chooses to sit with me. There may be biases. I solve them by leaving the premises. The most power vote the world over is the vote with your money and your feet. No tears being shed for any bar owner. Many of whom (in my opinion) are problem using the establishment to launder money.

Honestly I don't get the entire bar scene. I don't particularly like it. Even though I really like to drink. And for the fools giving advice about drinking and liver damage they making stupid comments. Your liver is designed to process 1 oz of alcohol an hour. It is what a liver does, process impurities out of your blood. If you are really concerned about your liver you should watch the fatty intake of foods. As a liver builds up fat within it, is loses it's ability to process blood. That is the real killer. And you liver does not lose the fat deposits once it has them. Do your homework before spouting off bullshit that is not true. You don't believe me, look up how foie gras is made.

Is Raj Raj a real person? Anyone actually met him?

I like TF. More interesting to see who one really is behind the pictures (doctored in many cases) or perhaps a LB or 2. Very easy to get 20-25 yr olds (I'm over 50 now). Kind of reminds me of doing this thing in Budapest where many ladies would just hang up if they heard English.

But I also like and underatand the bars and their business model / s. Its easy to chill at a bar with a nice girl. Met one in Soi 6 at Sexy, byu the name of Oil. Just love her but didn't want to BF her and go through the act of defiling her LOL. Then again I love FL on Beach Rd as its a numbers game and a risk and yada yada yada.

I like Agogos and all the BS that goes with them and this policy and that policy. Still at the end of the day I find Pattaya cheaper than BKK (Thermae gilrs quoting 3000ST as if they're Christie Brinkley in her prime) and then the sex with them 50% of the time is shit. Then again TF students in BKK are great. I have one of my semi-pro tour at 4000 a day but she fucks and sucks like A PSE. Then she pisses off until we meet again. And BKK is << cheaper than Phuket IMHO.

All otpions are on the table for me but I hear you about Soi 6 attitudes. I did go to a GC called Stunners and while I didn't BF or blow my wad I did have a nice time in a cosy environment with some nice broads. Drinks were ok as I was only on Heineken.

[Raj Patela]

Explorer asks who Barfs at Agogos. Can't answer as I see very few Barfining going on.

Soi 6 who Barfines. I do see a lot of the infamous Koreans Barfining. What they pay I have no idea.

[Belvaros]

Noi? No, she's not at 79 Club. That bar has the longest narrow set up I've seen ever. You can sit in any section and only see the girls in front of you. Imagine Palace set up, but 3 X the length longer. And the girls don't rotate stage to stage or on stage, they just flip their backs to you or their front. Shame on the designer. The good thing about 79 Club is their lighting. Not dark at all. I go pee just so I can walk to see all the girls on stage.

Speaking of ridiculous. There is some major decent new talent on Soi 6, but these "my style" girls were quoting 2500-3000 upstairs plus room charge and 1-2 drinks. That is RIDICULOUS. I adapted and paid 1500 for few of the better ones last time and even a couple of hotter ones at 2000. This was in a span of 5 months awhile back. But the hell if I am gong to pay 3000 for a Soi 6 girl. I thought my charm was going to get me the regular 1000 plus room and 1 drink price. WRONG. I wasted 3 drinks on 3 hot ones to get quoted of 2000 and 2500, plus room. I am not going to name bars or girls, so they can get their hustle on. But I need to heed my own advice. If you see a super HOT girl on Soi 6, "Ask them first how much before even buying 1 drink. ".

Girls know their worth. Luckily after 3 strikes, I found a girl who gave me a 1000 price. Her body was better than 2 of the 3 strike outs, face was decent enough. So once again, hot girl (my style) at Soi 6 just standing without drinks. There is a reason why. Ask ask ask. And if she gives a high price. Shake your head "no" and make an X with both arms to show "hell no". That will get them some silly unwanted attention from guys walking by. LOL.

True to an extent. I concentrate on 3 or 4 girls at 2 bars and buy drinks for 2 at a time and then ask about outside BF long term. Many say ST only but after a time if the bars are as quiet as they have been you will be successful. If not there are tonnes of other options. The girl I am in lust with. Some call it LOVE is at Sexy in the City and I spent a quite a bit of time at that bar and I NEVER saw her with a hook up for sex. But she got lots of drinks and cash slipped her way.

YMMV.

[Belvaros]

Will update as to which were TF, bar girls, FL and / or Agogo, GC.

[Belvaros]

99% of the people in Pattaya are NOT on this forum.

30+ bars with 100 girls average is 3. 000 agogo ladies easily. 2 barfines minimum in 10 days = 6. 000 barfines per 10 days or 600 per DAY.

Thats on average. So mondays would probably be 200 and saturdays more than 1. 000?

Who barfine? Guys who are NOT just looking for cheap sex. Guys who are not aware of this (or other fora / websites / groups). Asians. Farang.

I just spent 2 weeks down in Pattaya, I live in BKK and HK.

I had 22 girls from TF lined up. 11 were optiflick or piss poor upon meeting so I went to Sapphire to meet a lady from TF and I bar fined her. Why because she was lovely and I thought WTF.

I bar fined 2 ladies from Soi 6 bars. And I picked up a FL or 3 around the traps. Even avoided chicks with dicks.

The FL cost from 1200ST - 4000 LT. The gogo lady from Sapphire was 6 k LT plus a huge BF and drinks bill. Who cares. A girl from XS Agogo went with me once via BF and then 4 times from direct contact mainly during the day. 21 yr old spinner. Lovely PSE.

Most bars seemed quiet to me so that may a cheaper route but many of the ladies were drunk after 9 pm so I didn't want the hassle.

[Explorer8939]

99% of the people in Pattaya are NOT on this forum.

30+ bars with 100 girls average is 3. 000 agogo ladies easily. 2 barfines minimum in 10 days = 6. 000 barfines per 10 days or 600 per DAY.

Thats on average. So mondays would probably be 200 and saturdays more than 1. 000?

Who barfine? Guys who are NOT just looking for cheap sex. Guys who are not aware of this (or other fora / websites / groups). Asians. Farang.

It looks like 50% of the posts here are about Walking Street, but virtually no one here barfines from gogos on WS.

So, where do you pull your ladies?

[MartinFlevo]

Wow! Big news! Gogo girl gets barfined!

My question remains: apart from one poster, who is barfining gogo girls?

I believe that Walking Street is heading the way of Angeles City, only Korean customers. And they only come to Pattaya once.

99% of the people in Pattaya are NOT on this forum.

30+ bars with 100 girls average is 3. 000 agogo ladies easily. 2 barfines minimum in 10 days = 6. 000 barfines per 10 days or 600 per DAY.

Thats on average. So mondays would probably be 200 and saturdays more than 1. 000?

Who barfine? Guys who are NOT just looking for cheap sex. Guys who are not aware of this (or other fora / websites / groups). Asians. Farang.

[Venturi34]

Context.

Soi 6. Not an Agogo.

Point is you do t have to look like KPop Star to boom boom with attractive Soi 6 girl.

Nah the girls definitely do not care that much. I could definitely pass as a be Tier Kpop group member and they quote me the exact same price as everyone else. As long as your cash is good and you are clean then for the most part the girls will treat you the same. On the other hand I really do not find Soi 6 girls that attractive. I usually have to walk down and then back in order to settle on someone that I think is ok. Maybe most of the good girls are done / busy by the time I get there. Who knows.

[EihTooms]

Real sweeps are rare.

More common is when the cops walk down Beach road in a group. The ladies disappear across the street, and then filter back when the cops are gone.

A few years ago in Bangkok there were some sweeps. They were all based on visa issues pertaining to so many Africans and Vietnamese girls hanging out on Soi 4 back then. Took a couple of years before they felt safe to return in notable numbers.

None of those sweeps were because the girls were engaged in prostitution.

And, of course, no customer was swept up in a sweep because he was offering girls, consenting adults, money for sex either.

And as far as I know no girl and certainly no punter that I know of made a habit of paying off the cops with tea money to keep from getting busted on a charge of prostitution.

Which, IMHO, are all factors about as convincing as it gets that there is no reasonable interpretation of the Thai Penal Code that supports the idea that the simple act of prostitution is illegal absent any fairly logical extenuating circumstances or obviously troubling co-factors regarding age, undue coercion, creating a public nuisance and so on.

[Raj Patela]

Wow! Big news! Gogo girl gets barfined!

My question remains: apart from one poster, who is barfining gogo girls?

I believe that Walking Street is heading the way of Angeles City, only Korean customers. And they only come to Pattaya once.

Context.

Soi 6. Not an Agogo.

Point is you do t have to look like KPop Star to boom boom with attractive Soi 6 girl.

[Venturi34]

Wow!

Are you from Korea?

New York City.

[Raj Patela]

Miracles do Happen.

I met world Famous Priew of Desire.

Checks out Hotness. Sweet too.

Little bigger upper Torso she could be more Hot.

Said doesn't do Barfines. Makes sense as she does well on Livestream.

[Explorer8939]

Don't Fret.

9 girls at Showgirls. One stands out.

She got Barfined on Premises. Nit by a Korean. Nit by Sin, hkg, etc.

Best I could tell Ugly Mexican or Portuguese.

Wow! Big news! Gogo girl gets barfined!

My question remains: apart from one poster, who is barfining gogo girls?

I believe that Walking Street is heading the way of Angeles City, only Korean customers. And they only come to Pattaya once.

[Explorer8939]

Thanks, Horse Trader.

Well, as long as I'm on a roll, I will add a general note about those occasional sweeps of street girls by the cops. LOL.

My previous post about this that you quoted from was regarding P4 P girls working in bars. I think that would also apply to escort agencies, massage shops, soapies, so-called Happy Ending shops and the like. It seems that is why Smooci is trying put a distance between itself and escort agencies of late.

And I should also stipulate that This Is Thailand, I could have it wrong on some meaningful detail or the law has been changed as of last month or some edict has been issued that supercedes traditional penal code and enforcement procedures. My notes are based on what I have read in the Thai Penal Code on the issue and the way it has virtually always turned out in terms of arrests and charges regarding "prostitution crimes" here.

So, about those occasions where the cops round up dozens of street girls in a single night in a surprise sweep on, say, Beach Road in Pattaya or Soi 4 or Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok. Don't the cops say they did it to "Crack down on prostitution" or some such thing and doesn't the media report it as such too?

Yes. Because they are being lazy and / or intentionally imprecise about it.

What they are really arresting the girls for is being prostitutes who are creating a public nuisance of their line of work...

Real sweeps are rare.

More common is when the cops walk down Beach road in a group. The ladies disappear across the street, and then filter back when the cops are gone.

[Raj Patela]

Don't Fret.

9 girls at Showgirls. One stands out.

She got Barfined on Premises. Nit by a Korean. Nit by Sin, hkg, etc.

Best I could tell Ugly Mexican or Portuguese.