Angeles City

[Expat American]

There is no hype about ABC. ABC is a superior hotel plain and simple. Rooms are newer and I am sure the bathrooms with shower and separate tubs are better. Restaurant and aqua Club onsite.

Location to WS is not as good.

ABC will cost you more than WO. If you are satisfied with WO then why change?

I think Central Park is a good compromise. Newer and more renovated than Wild Orchid and better located but not as plush as ABC. If easy proximity to WS is important (and why else would you be in that shit hole town anyway?) then better to stay walking distance to most of the bars. Less dealing with Trike Mafia or grab rides. But by all accounts, it seems not worth the trip any more. Go to Cebu or somewhere else instead.

[GreenBud]

Am presently in Bangkok on a business trip,

of course there is lots of topless and nudity in Thai gogos,

Lots of full nudity in Thai Go-Gos in Bangkok? Which ones? Please enlighten us. I only know of 4. I am always looking for more of them. I like to have a cold beer in front of naked girls.

Of course, I know you won't answer that question. You've been to Bangkok as many times as you've been to Angeles.

[Dg8787]

Hi Guys, got a business trip lined up in a few months and will have a week in AC again after MNL and maybe a visit to Sabang to catch up with some talented contacts. I normally stay at the Wild Orchid in AC. Yes, it's dated but I've never really had a problem with it. Good food, conveniently located on Blow Row and good staff. Just wondering if ABC is worth the hype? I see their reviews are comparable and ABC is a bit more pricey of the two _ Cheers _ Phil.

There is no hype about ABC. ABC is a superior hotel plain and simple. Rooms are newer and I am sure the bathrooms with shower and separate tubs are better. Restaurant and aqua Club onsite.

Location to WS is not as good.

ABC will cost you more than WO. If you are satisfied with WO then why change?

[PhilJoy]

Hi Guys, got a business trip lined up in a few months and will have a week in AC again after MNL and maybe a visit to Sabang to catch up with some talented contacts. I normally stay at the Wild Orchid in AC. Yes, it's dated but I've never really had a problem with it. Good food, conveniently located on Blow Row and good staff. Just wondering if ABC is worth the hype? I see their reviews are comparable and ABC is a bit more pricey of the two _ Cheers _ Phil.

[TravelingMan3]

All right my Angeles trip is over it was about 4 days I'm currently back in my condo in Pattaya so I'll give my quick thoughts. Things I didn't like the gogos why aside from the ugly ladies they were wearing dresses in a good number of places. I didn't realize Crystal Palace and Brown Sugar are now closed those were some of my favorite places to drink. Then there is Dollhouse and Atlantis one word terrible and these were the main places in years past. Honestly the only positive is Mega Dance went here about 3 times the bottle service girls are cute one had a great ass also the bikini girls if you get one it would be wort it.

[NapaSlapper]

All right fellas I haven't been in AC since 2018 and it sucked girls were already out of shape over priced etc. With that said I back in town now for other reasons and while here decided to check out the scene. Before I give my thought I've only been in tow a one real day as I landed early Sunday morning and didn't hit town until 0400 and I live in Pattaya so I'm comparing it to that so kinda not fair. So with that said here are my thoughts so far at 0400 town was already dead Hammer was dead so went Eclipse which had a decent crowd but no real chick talent. Went to a 24 hour bar that sucked so went to sleep.

Tonight I went to Vikings Dollhouse and Lollipop they all were terrible and to my surprised girls in Vikings and Dollhouse were wearing dresses which I had heard about but thought it was the Korean bars. Lollipop was good back in the day but quality tonight was bad if your a monger I see NO reason to come to Angeles to monger over a place like Bangkok or Pattaya or even Jakarta. The one thing that has been a positive is the food at Rbi steakhouse and the Korean food I had that was good.

Have to fully agree that angeles has basically died a death and cannot be remotely compared to other nearby Asian mongering destinations.

Lollipop bar as you said has lost its shine big time over the last few years but so have many other western oriented angeles bars, as far as nudity, bikinis, sexy underwear etc well that has not been seen in most angeles bars for some time now, many girls in street clothes, many girls in evening dresses, there is in truth more flesh to be seen on any beach the world over than in the bars of angeles, it is what it is unfortunately.

Am presently in Bangkok on a business trip, not only is the Thai girl talent much younger, slimmer and better looking than their angeles cousins but also the fun factor and energy on stage shown by the Thai girls is far far higher and of course there is lots of topless and nudity in Thai gogos, so would fully agree with you that for the savvy monger an angeles visit makes little sense especially as other destinations offer so much more at similar prices.

[GreenBud]

Xs bar not Korean operated? I would check you source of wrong information or to actually make an Angeles trip yourself for 1st hand information and to meet the Korean xs bar manager who is there every day.

There are no Korean touts in front. Korean papasans do not greet the Korean customers. That should be the definition/non-definition of a Korean operated bar. It seems to be mainly Philipino mamasans that deal with the customers. I will check if there is a Korean manager the next time I am there.

Yes, many of the customers are Korean. But it's on Walking Street with a popular show. Many non Koreans also.

You're being delusional again. The obnoxious PM again. You are so funny. Are you going to claim the manager is your brother in law again? Just like last time in your obnoxious PM. Those things can be checked. You need to claim things that are unverifiable.

[NapaSlapper]

Club XS: Definitely not Korean operated. I was told there was one Korean manager, but I've never seen him. The bar is owned by the Wolfpack group. I was told one of the five owners is Korean.

Dragon: Definitely Korean operated. But this bar was purchased by a Black American with a Muslim name. I was told that's why they added a group of girls who wear bikinis. Personally, that's my only complaint with Korean bars; the girls wear dresses.

Xs bar not Korean operated? I would check you source of wrong information or to actually make an Angeles trip yourself for 1st hand information and to meet the Korean xs bar manager who is there every day.

Just to clear xs bar up for the members, xs bar has got to be the number 1 bar in Angeles for the amount of customers (Koreans) the best dance shows and the most likely bar to have a few ok looking girls (Korean only girls) the xs building main lease is held by the wolfpack group but they sub lease it out to others (Koreans) to run the bar on a day to day basis.

Contrary to your claims greenbud xs bar is 100% a korean run bar.

[FuriousGeorge]

This seems like good news. The Level 3 bar was bought by the American who owns 69 Rock, and by this walkthrough and his description of plans, sounds like a killer gogo bar, in the middle of walking street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzJ1QjPbaiE

[Erasmus B Dragin]

Typically, the best option from LA is PAL nonstop to MNL, then Genesis bus from NAIA T3 direct to AC. Buses run more or less hourly, last bus at 22:00. Reliably 2 hours from T3 to SM Clark. Allowing one hour for bag collection, emigration & shuttle from T1 or T2, that puts you in AC 3 hours after landing. Genesis buses are reasonably comfortable & have onboard WiFi for PHP 430.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=wR0Py...ature=youtu.be

[GreenBud]

Korean Clubs / Bars.

After watching several videos, RTFF, and Google, these are the places I found that were Korean owned and / or operated. Please look at my list so I can keep or delete.

Club XS: Definitely not Korean operated. I was told there was one Korean manager, but I've never seen him. The bar is owned by the Wolfpack group. I was told one of the five owners is Korean.

Dragon: Definitely Korean operated. But this bar was purchased by a Black American with a Muslim name. I was told that's why they added a group of girls who wear bikinis. Personally, that's my only complaint with Korean bars; the girls wear dresses.

[Erasmus B Dragin]

None.

One option is to fly into Clark with EVA with a layover in Taipei. You can check your options with a website such as kayak.com. Then I normally book directly with the airline to get seat options and better customer service, depending on the price difference. But from LAX, you will actually save time if you fly direct with PAL to Manila, and then take a private taxi or the shuttle to Angeles; this will cost more.

A very good website to check what direct flights lands in any airport in the world is: https://www.flightsfrom.com/.

Typically, the best option from LA is PAL nonstop to MNL, then Genesis bus from NAIA T3 direct to AC. Buses run more or less hourly, last bus at 22:00. Reliably 2 hours from T3 to SM Clark. Allowing one hour for bag collection, emigration & shuttle from T1 or T2, that puts you in AC 3 hours after landing. Genesis buses are reasonably comfortable & have onboard WiFi for PHP 430.

Another option is any direct flight to Hong Kong, then CePac, Air Asia, PAL, Hong Kong Express, Royal Air, etc to Clark. With a good connection this can be about the same overall travel time as the former, but anything less than 1 1/2 hours in HK is cutting it close. For a longer layover, there's a free shower.

If you plan ahead (6 weeks or more) you can get really good deals on airfare.

[PhilJoy]

Gents.

In Angeles, if you bar fine a bargirl on the day shift (say 10 am) when is she entitled to leave?

Cheers.

Dirk.

Hi Dirk. The guys on here have offered some great feedback.

The skill is in the negotiation process. Know what exactly you're going to get before committing. After numerous visits, I now have a number of 'previous' girls lined up in advance from earlier visits and keep in touch with them via WhatsApp which takes out the expense of the lady drinks and the bar fines.

But there's still some negotiation going on beforehand. Generally the offer is buying them dinner (which is relatively inexpensive) and then staying overnight with me for 3 k and it's usually always accepted. I then tip them 500 p - 1000 p when 'I kiss them goodbye' the next morning and they accept it a present or an unexpected bonus.

Always works out well for the next visit. Just my experience _ Phil.

P.S. (Just hide the TV remote control if you're bringing them back to your room, as they'll get too comfortable and not devote their total attention to f*cking you).

[Sammon]

Gents.

In Angeles, if you bar fine a bargirl on the day shift (say 10 am) when is she entitled to leave?

Cheers.

Dirk.

Depends on the girl. Most girls try to leave after one shot unless she likes your hotel and ofcourse you. The goal for them is get barfined so that they get out of the daily drudge.

[TomJackin]

Korean Clubs / Bars.

After watching several videos, RTFF, and Google, these are the places I found that were Korean owned and / or operated. Please look at my list so I can keep or delete.

Bad Boy.

Viking-Pirate.

Sky Falls.

Cosplay.

Genesis.

Baccara.

Arabesque.

Aura.

Bunny.

Penguin.

Club XS.

Dragon.

Club Atlantis.

Dimple.

Bar Nana.

Dollhouse.

Soya.

Thank you all in advance!

Tijuana.