Pattaya Reports

[SubCmdr]

Thanks for the warning, out of interest which other GC is close by, and which GoGo.

Cheers.

Be.

Agogo: Viper; Gentlemans Club KitCat Lounge; Gentleman's Club Passions, Look for my PM about the third Gentleman's Club.

Passion Gentlemans Club

Viper an Agogo in Jomtien falls into that category. They charge 1500 bar fine; 800 for short time room; 3000 short time; 5000 long time. Maybe one or two girls qualified for that price range in my book. But I have never written a description of the activity that disparaged those who make the choice to accept those prices and take those girls.

What I can tell you is that I can walk right across the street to the GC next to the Jomtien Beach Pool House called the KitCat Lounge Club purchase the Champagne Room package that includes the girl of my choice for 1500 THB. Do I find the girls in Viper to be twice as attractive as the girls in the KitCat Lounge Club club?

I find the ambiance of the KitCat Lounge Club appeals to me more. I am greeted and treated quite well by the girls and at least half of them I find attractive. The next guy might not like the place at all. They may prefer to pull a girl out of Viper. But I have nothing negative to say about that or the girls in either place.

[Belsie]

The new Maggie Mays in Jomtien is pretty lame in my book. Especially with three better gentleman clubs and a agogo within walking distance of it. They really need to step their game up. But they are hampered by the lame facilities. Owners must have been on a budget. How cheap is it to install one air conditioner split for two room? Each room cannot control the temp in that individual room. They also have big clocks on the wall. Not the stylish types, the ones that you see in any common office. Nothing says this facility is about watching the clock than that. The rooms do not have private bathrooms. You have to go do the hall to take your shower before and after the deed. The show it the wet bathroom style. Not a particular favorite of mine. They keep it so dark in bar area that you can barely see what the girls look like. I guess that is good for getting head or hiding the lame line up. Lastly, they keep it so mother fucking cold in there it is like sitting in a refrigerator.

Grade: I would give them 2 out of 5 stars. You can get your fuck on in there but I would only visit if I got bored with the other three gentleman's clubs (all four and five stars) that are within walking distance of the place.

I go to work!

Thanks for the warning, out of interest which other GC is close by, and which GoGo.

Cheers.

Be.

[UglyAzzMan]

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[SubCmdr]

I only went once. It's kind of like the original, but I don't know any of the ladies, which puts a damper on things for me.

The new Maggie Mays in Jomtien is pretty lame in my book. Especially with three better gentleman clubs and a agogo within walking distance of it. They really need to step their game up. But they are hampered by the lame facilities. Owners must have been on a budget. How cheap is it to install one air conditioner split for two room? Each room cannot control the temp in that individual room. They also have big clocks on the wall. Not the stylish types, the ones that you see in any common office. Nothing says this facility is about watching the clock than that. The rooms do not have private bathrooms. You have to go do the hall to take your shower before and after the deed. The show it the wet bathroom style. Not a particular favorite of mine. They keep it so dark in bar area that you can barely see what the girls look like. I guess that is good for getting head or hiding the lame line up. Lastly, they keep it so mother fucking cold in there it is like sitting in a refrigerator.

Grade: I would give them 2 out of 5 stars. You can get your fuck on in there but I would only visit if I got bored with the other three gentleman's clubs (all four and five stars) that are within walking distance of the place.

I go to work!

[Explorer8939]

Yes, I remember it. As you noted overweight older ladies suppose to be nasty if that was your thing. I went twice just to confirm so I don't go again it reminds of of Tahitian Queen if also your thing. I believe it is gone even before Covid, there was a club down which I believe is the club now XS or close to it a open bar club Miami never made it closed before Covid.

My point was about the posts claiming that there weren't old overweight ladies in Pattaya Back in the Day.

I suspect that as guys get older, they filter out all but the hottest ladies from their memory.

[Explorer8939]

On a more appropriate note, how do you like the new Maggie Mays in Jomtien? Interested in hearing your opinion.

I only went once. It's kind of like the original, but I don't know any of the ladies, which puts a damper on things for me.

[LittleBigMan]

So just wondering about the enforcement. What will happen if you don't file? Can you answer? How will they force you to file or punish you if you don't? There are no enforcement guidelines and there never was. The 180 day rule has been around for years. Only the accessible income has changed. So, in the past you were here more than 180 days in a calendar year, so why you only worry now and not before? Feel free to PM me as I know I'm bringing this out in the wrong section of the forum. Apologies to you all.


On a more appropriate note, how do you like the new Maggie Mays in Jomtien? Interested in hearing your opinion.

I went to a meeting yesterday on this topic out of interest? The guest speaker isn't a tax expert but a Doctoral guy who has done extensive work who has gone down to the Revenue office, got forms and even develop a program to calculate your returns. If provide online the forms that were necessary as to how to file and the rules pertaining the deductions etc. He went over the form and use sample calculations as to what an individual would pay if it was to be enforced on those spending more than 180 days.

One first and foremost he made it clearly although he was the speaker he made a disclaimer to everyone he wasn't an expert so don't quote him. In the meeting open session lots of questions and speculation as to whether this will be made an policy and enforce. There was speculation that if done it will be enforced through Immigration when renewing your Extension you will be asked to provide as part of your package that a return was made and if fully enforced it will be placed into your immigration record and if not won't be able to enter Thailand if you leave.

As the discussion continue the above is the worse enforcement as we know Thailand leaders don't know their left from right by the time it actually is enforced old guys said they will be dead. One guy claim right now A. I. Is being developed so to make it happen. I said and many dislike brought up the topic of what is deductible and said as you guys argue about what is does anyone actually think they can sit with a Thai revenue official and ask speak English as you guys are doing now and think you are going to get your way. This is what I continue to mentioned people get so worked up they don't realize Thailand is in the bottom year in year out when it comes to English improvement these old dogs can't read or write and certainly can't speak a lick. So get ready to argue, get back a stare and pay the piper. Majority of the simple samples of someone bringing in 1 million baht with the general deductions end up with a PAY 25,000 baht! There are two sets of forms a 91 and 90, 91 will be the one most of us will use 90 is for those who work here and invest money. Form 90, there are 40 pages of rules, 91 has like 20.

But here is the catch a handful of countries and USA Is one of them NO DOUBLE TAXATION so whatever amount it shows you to pay is VOID! But as we know every Immigrations does their own thing will if enforced Revenue department do the same. Look you in the face and play dumb like Thais are good at doing!

The end of meeting no matter how you are to fill out the form no one has a clue as of yet just ASSUMPTIONS AND SPECULATIONS WHICH DRIVE WHAT? FEAR! Is the fear justified that a guy will stay less that 180 days like EX, if you can not a bad idea until everyone really knows. Starting next year if I remember correctly Starting 2025 you got January to end of March to file for 2024, and you got to apply for a I. The. First. There was lots of speculation by others the way Thailand operates especially Pattaya, the so call agents who are now doing business for people to obtain their extension doing 90 reports and TM30 residents might be doing a booming business obtaining clearance for tax filing.

Myself, I plan to just sit talk to my lawyer if she works with a English speaking tax expert when the time comes will do what is necessary if nab at Immigration I play dumb which is easy I'm too old to know LOL.

[LittleBigMan]

Now I remember Soi 13 back in the day. There was a daytime gogo called "Miami", maybe someone remembers when it was open. I believe they had naked dancers.

Overweight, older ladies.

Yes, I remember it. As you noted overweight older ladies suppose to be nasty if that was your thing. I went twice just to confirm so I don't go again it reminds of of Tahitian Queen if also your thing. I believe it is gone even before Covid, there was a club down which I believe is the club now XS or close to it a open bar club Miami never made it closed before Covid.

[EverythingThai]

There is a discussion about this in the General Reports section.

A tax resident is required to file a Thai tax return for any income remitted into Thailand in 2024. You can decline to file, but that would be tax evasion.

So just wondering about the enforcement. What will happen if you don't file? Can you answer? How will they force you to file or punish you if you don't? There are no enforcement guidelines and there never was. The 180 day rule has been around for years. Only the accessible income has changed. So, in the past you were here more than 180 days in a calendar year, so why you only worry now and not before? Feel free to PM me as I know I'm bringing this out in the wrong section of the forum. Apologies to you all.


On a more appropriate note, how do you like the new Maggie Mays in Jomtien? Interested in hearing your opinion.

[Dupont88]

In that soi I Remember Nevada and LAS vegas in One the lady havebbikini but I had a quarrel with a lady about Money.

In Nevada served a large glass of beer for 50 bath and the lady was topless and have down a sort of indian squaw piece of something and the butt was naked and you can fondle but man I m talking about 25 why ago.

25 years ago.

[UglyAzzMan]

I travel because if I spend 180+ days in Thailand this year, I will be deemed a tax resident. Sometimes when I travel, I take a Thai lady with me. Tomorrow I go to Macau.

Lots of Thai ladies want to travel. However, there are lots of reasons to be careful. I once took a lady on a two week trip, and halfway through, she broke down, spending two days in bed crying all the time. She missed her Thai "boyfriend". After 2 days, she composed herself and carried on. When she got home, her boyfriend's wife threatened her and that was the end of that guy. Since then, she has traveled to other places with me, and her new boyfriend takes care of the kids.

Before traveling with a bar girl, have her go with you long time in Pattaya. Then, do a few days in Bangkok. By then, you will have an idea if you can live together. I have had ladies flake out in Bangkok.

The last step is flying to some domestic destination like Phuket or Chiang Mai. If she can handle that, a trip to Malaysia or Vietnam or Macau is possible.

We have something in common. This tax resident thing is a Pain.

The filing even if you owe nothing can be a Nightmare. Esp when Ben Hart of integrity legal thinks tax status will be intertwined with immigration status.

Year winding down and no clarification on anything.

P.S. Look at how much revenue Thailand is losing by me and explore not being there. Yes I'm Flexxing. Haha.

[Explorer8939]

I have talked to people that have visited Pattay for many years. Soi 7 and soi 8 did not used to be full of 40+ overweight ladies. There used to be more younger talents around the bars. What I saw in those streets and in myth night and tree town was mostly abyssmal. The only reason those areas are operating with that staff is because the infrastructure is there. No one would build up those areas from scratch and staff it with ladies of so low quality. Honestly, I think its almost a sort of parody of a red light area when I see some things there.

Now I remember Soi 13 back in the day. There was a daytime gogo called "Miami", maybe someone remembers when it was open. I believe they had naked dancers.

Overweight, older ladies.

[Explorer8939]

Just curious. If you stayed in Thailand more than 180 days this year, how would the Thai government enforce this rule on you? How would they force you to file your personal income tax here. To my knowledge, immigration is not enforcing this when you extend your visa. So how ? Why are you so worried ? If you can explain the enforcement guidelines on this, I would be most interested. What would happen to you if you didnt file?

There is a discussion about this in the General Reports section.

A tax resident is required to file a Thai tax return for any income remitted into Thailand in 2024. You can decline to file, but that would be tax evasion.

[EverythingThai]

I travel because if I spend 180+ days in Thailand this year, I will be deemed a tax resident. Sometimes when I travel, I take a Thai lady with me. Tomorrow I go to Macau..

Just curious. If you stayed in Thailand more than 180 days this year, how would the Thai government enforce this rule on you? How would they force you to file your personal income tax here. To my knowledge, immigration is not enforcing this when you extend your visa. So how ? Why are you so worried ? If you can explain the enforcement guidelines on this, I would be most interested. What would happen to you if you didn’t file?

[Explorer8939]

Why guys do it, I have no idea but many girls are very well travelled.

Be aware that taking a girl to a foreign holiday destination is one thing but taking her home adds a heap of extra risks.

Enjoy. G.

I travel because if I spend 180+ days in Thailand this year, I will be deemed a tax resident. Sometimes when I travel, I take a Thai lady with me. Tomorrow I go to Macau.

Lots of Thai ladies want to travel. However, there are lots of reasons to be careful. I once took a lady on a two week trip, and halfway through, she broke down, spending two days in bed crying all the time. She missed her Thai "boyfriend". After 2 days, she composed herself and carried on. When she got home, her boyfriend's wife threatened her and that was the end of that guy. Since then, she has traveled to other places with me, and her new boyfriend takes care of the kids.

Before traveling with a bar girl, have her go with you long time in Pattaya. Then, do a few days in Bangkok. By then, you will have an idea if you can live together. I have had ladies flake out in Bangkok.

The last step is flying to some domestic destination like Phuket or Chiang Mai. If she can handle that, a trip to Malaysia or Vietnam or Macau is possible.