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  1. #3309
    Only one Candidate has good Policy.

  2. #3308
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Do you have a link for exactly what you are referring to? Without something like that, there is no way to respond to it.

    Aside from the link I posted previously totally debunking Trump's typically outrageous and destructive lies about the Hurricane response, especially with regard to North Carolina, here is what I have found regarding North Carolina re Hurricane Helene:

    NC Newsline
    Fact check: Debunking misinformation surrounding Helene


    https://ncnewsline.com/2024/10/08/fa...unding-helene/

    Misinformation has surged following Hurricane Helene. Here's a fact check.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurrica...racy-theories/.
    I choose not to take the discussion further. Its bad enough we have MessBoy here.

  3. #3307
    Reading about American Politics in the Thailand threads when there is a thread for it is almost as bad as reading the WHWMF's diatribes.

    Reading more Trump obsessing is almost as bad as reading MessBoys diatribes.

  4. #3306

    Do you have a link for what you are referring to exactly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    Dude I respect you but I have friends and family out there in NC, please don't minimize the absolute cock up going on out there. Americans are dying, another Huirricane is on the way and its just a toal government SNAFU. Ask yourself why the 82nd Airborne sat on their hands, 300 miles away, for 6 days.
    Do you have a link for exactly what you are referring to? Without something like that, there is no way to respond to it.

    Aside from the link I posted previously totally debunking Trump's typically outrageous and destructive lies about the Hurricane response, especially with regard to North Carolina, here is what I have found regarding North Carolina re Hurricane Helene:

    NC Newsline
    Fact check: Debunking misinformation surrounding Helene


    https://ncnewsline.com/2024/10/08/fa...unding-helene/

    Misinformation has surged following Hurricane Helene. Here's a fact check.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurrica...racy-theories/

    We all have opinions about these things. And assertions without even the slightest connection to credible substantiation certainly fits the "rants and stupid shit" category of this forum. But if you are asking me to, so to speak, "glorify arsonists" and "denigrate firefighters" in a discussion of Trump / Repubs vs Biden / Dems, I need a bit more than just an entertaining rant before I join in on that.

  5. #3305
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    Everyone has their opinion in less than a month Americans can vote home or abroad whatever those votes will be based on whatever information voters construe as so call facts! The sooner it is over the sooner the fucking drama ends hopefully! I'm tired of the be. S. From both parties which will never end no matter who runs!
    I pretty much agree with your entire post, but especially this line. I'll be glad when it's over. Dropping off my ballot at the US Embassy today.

  6. #3304

    Politics!

    One thing I've found when it comes to Trump no matter who runs against him " NOTHING GOOD COMES FROM IT " it doesn't matter about what is true or false people have made up their minds there is always something and that something voters will throw out words like facts data and I can safely say they can be spin in any manner their party wants to make it out to be. If you say it is red the other party will look you straight in the face and say it is blue! And you know what half the voters will believe others using words like " fact " when it comes to voting there are no facts!

    There isn't anything that has been quoted as so called fact that can't be broker down but this election it is just a waste of time in my opinion. No one is interested in any facts! When Trump announced he was running I said to my coffee group who said to me " You a big Union man " so we know where your vote is going. I just responded after he actually won " brace yourself this is going to the biggest soap opera ever " and it hasn't disappointed!

    The best thing anyone can do if they do who decide to vote make it any debate, opinion is not going to end in any type of agreement. One thing for sure as Mr. E, noted sure he has an ego a big mouth but all this stuff he is a threat he is going to do this or that if he was going to do it would have already and you know what it never is going to happen for one reason our Constitution! A great example!

    Like him or not you got guys like Pence his VP, he is a purist constitution student won't let it happen and a guy like Vance is no different!

    Joking! To the Brits! There is a reason why Britain is no longer refer any longer as " Great " it all ended prior to 1776, when the greatest of greats like Washington, Jefferson came to the USA Fought then drew up the greatest document ever they had vision beyond even Gods to have come up with such a system. Are there flaws of course I'm sure someone wants to debate that too! But there is no country on the face of this earth who has done more in less that 250 years and again Yes they also have done bad but let any country on this earth stand up and say they didn't do it ether. The day these great mines left England that was the day they were no longer great and many Brits to this day can't get over it. Many want to bash the USA Nation building and all that all one has to do is go back thousands of years and review the history of nations like England, Europe, the MiddleEast, short memories by everyone.

    Am I a Trump supporter I was a Democrat but I left as Obama term ended and I voted for him twice today I'm an Independent, There are policies I like but I don't think any President ever need to parade themselves around the world apologizing nor do I feel American needs to be great again parading around with a stupid hat the country greatness is self evidences in spite of it's flaws.

    Everyone has their opinion in less than a month Americans can vote home or abroad whatever those votes will be based on whatever information voters construe as so call facts! The sooner it is over the sooner the fucking drama ends hopefully! I'm tired of the be. S. From both parties which will never end no matte who runs!

  7. #3303

    Correction. I hate to misquote the man

    I had inadvertently written "two weeks earlier" when in fact Trump admitted to Bob Woodward in a March 2020 recorded interview that if only we had gotten a heads up about the emerging COVID cases at those Chinese labs "two months earlier, we could have stopped it easily. ".

    That interview was recorded after it turned out Trump's economic and national security policy decisions in 2019 were the sole reason we didn't have leadership on our side in those Chinese labs to give us that heads up as of 3-4 months prior to those emerging cases, allowing his victorious trade negotiation opponent Xi to lie about it and keep it a secret for critical weeks or months while infected carriers spread throughout airports, train station, etc, losing the golden opportunity to isolate and quarrantine enough to effectively control it as an epidemic restricted to one region in China until more and better vaccines were created, tested and administered around the world rather than the deadly, worldwide economic disaster Pandemic it became.

    By early 2020 Trump was lying right along with Xi about it and, well, the Trump Pandemic, millions of deaths, Trump business and school closures, Trump massive job losses in the millions upon millions, Trump global supply-chain collapse, Trump Inflation, Trump skyrocketing prices, the opportunistic corporate price gouging and so on that followed as night follows day is well-documented history.

    So I have corrected that quote of him and a couple of annoying minor typos here:

    The Facts, Data and roughly half of the Trump Administration disagree with you, too, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    Well on the contrary the only people that think the economy and life was better under Biden than Trump are deranged cult followers. And let's not forget the issue of free speech, taxpayer funding of transgender inmate surgeries to give them boobies so they can go to a female prison and have fun, gun seizures, end of gas cars, end of gas stoves, the open border, criminals running around the US, the failure to take care of the people affected by the recent hurricane, Dei hiring, infanticide and all the other socially woke programs of the fascist neo-Nazi racist and anti-Semitic Democratic Party.

    We should probably agree to disagree.
    Trump to leave office with the worst jobs record since Herbert Hoover.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump...030044152.html

    You think Trump's Pandemic just "happened" out of the blue and that "nobody predicted" such a thing could happen?

    Nope. Trump defunded and removed the highly-successful Pandemic Prevention Team from those Chinese labs by 2019 contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid. Then he launched into the critical year 2020 lying about it to deflect from his most colossally disastrous economic and national security decisions and mismanagement of all time; that he had it "under control", that "it is disappearing", that "it will go away without a vaccine", mocking the known mitigation measures.

    I submit a much more likely reason our international enemies like Trump so much is because, without them lifting a finger, he managed to kill at least 1 million Americans, kept the American military actively involved in a combat War in Afghanistan for every one of his 1,460 days in office and, as a bonus, led his "patriots", a bloody, violent, cop-killing mob of insurrectionists into battle against American democracy on American Soil on his way out. What's not to love about that if you wish America harm?

    Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak.
    March 26, 2020


    https://www.reuters.com/article/worl...idUSKBN21C3NE/

    Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised.

    https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...3b873e56f80e9a

    Under Fire For Coronavirus Response, Trump Officials Defend Disbanding Pandemic Team.

    https://time.com/5806558/administrat...ght-criticism/

    BTW, Trump himself admitted if we'd only gotten a heads up about those earliest COVID cases "two months earlier, we could have stopped it easily. " Meanwhile, Trump was more responsible than any other person on the planet for more responsible parties NOT getting that heads up "two months earlier ".

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/bob-woodw...091902598.html

    Talking to Woodward on March 19, 2020, Trump said Barron, then 13, asked what was going on and he answered: I said, it came out of China, Barron. Pure and simple. It came out of China. And it shouldve been stopped. And to be honest with you, Barron, they shouldve let it be known it was a problem two months earlier ... the world wouldnt have a problem. We could have stopped it easily.
    It sounds like you have fallen for Trump's lies lock, stock and barrel, my friend. Even his latest seriously harmful BS about nobody taking care of victims of the current hurricane. Sad.

    Fact check: Six days of Trump lies about the Hurricane Helene response.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/06/polit...ina/index.html

    Yes, I suppose we will have to agree to disagree. Along with Trump's former VP, a couple of his Defense Secretaries, several members of his Joint Chiefs of Staff, a Trump National Security Advisor or two and a couple of dozen other Trump Administration Members who worked and observed him closely and were right there for some of his legendary disastrous results.

  8. #3302
    Reading more Trump obsessing is almost as bad as reading MessBoys diatribes.

  9. #3301
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Trump to leave office with the worst jobs record since Herbert Hoover.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump...030044152.html

    You think Trump's Pandemic just "happened" out of the blue and that "nobody predicted" such a thing could happen?

    Nope. Trump defunded and removed the highly-successful Pandemic Prevention Team from those Chinese labs by 2019 contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid. Then he launched into the critical year 2020 lying about it to deflect from his most colossally disastrous economic and national security decisions and mismanagement of all time; that he had it "under control", that "it is disappearing", that "it will go away without a vaccine", mocking the known mitigation measures.

    I submit a much more likely reason out international enemies like Trump so much is because, without them lifting a finger, he managed to kill at least 1 million Americans, kept the American military actively involved in a combat War in Afghanistan for every on of his 1,460 days in office and, as a bonus, led his "patriots", a bloody, violent, cop-killing mob of insurrectionists into battle against American democracy on American Soil on his way out. What's not to love about that if you wish America harm?

    Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak.
    March 26, 2020


    https://www.reuters.com/article/worl...idUSKBN21C3NE/

    Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised.

    https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...3b873e56f80e9a

    Under Fire For Coronavirus Response, Trump Officials Defend Disbanding Pandemic Team.

    https://time.com/5806558/administrat...ght-criticism/

    BTW, Trump himself admitted if we'd only gotten a heads up about those earliest COVID cases "2 weeks sooner, we could have stopped it easily. " Meanwhile, Trump was more responsible than any other person on the planet for responsible parties NOT getting that heads up "2 weeks sooner. ".

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/bob-woodw...091902598.html

    It sounds like you have fallen for Trump's lies lock, stock and barrel, my friend. Even his latest seriously harmful BS about nobody taking care of victims of the current hurricanes. Sad.

    Fact check: Six days of Trump lies about the Hurricane Helene response.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/06/polit...ina/index.html

    Yes, I suppose we will have to agree to disagree. Along with Trump's former VP, a couple of his Defense Secretaries, several members of his Joint Chiefs of Staff, a Trump National Security Advisor or two and a couple of dozen other Trump Administration Members who worked and observed him closely and were right there for some of his legendary disastrous results.
    Dude I respect you but I have friends and family out there in NC, please don't minimize the absolute cock up going on out there. Americans are dying, another Huirricane is on the way and its just a toal government SNAFU. Ask yourself why the 82nd Airborne sat on their hands, 300 miles away, for 6 days.

  10. #3300
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    And let's not forget the issue of free speech, taxpayer funding of inmate surgeries to give them boobies so they can go to a female prison and have fun, gun seizures, end of gas cars, end of gas stoves,
    That is the shit that fucks me up. The first 2 rules say right there that you can talk all the shit you want and you can have guns. But they are like no more shit talking and no more guns. It does not say shit about abortions, but it does say if there is some shit we did not cover then y'all (states and individuals) are on your own with that.

    Mfs said they were going to build something back better. Kind of like what Steve Harvey said, 4 years gone by and ain't put so much as a padlock on a fence. Electric cars? They have built 2 stations in 4 years. And where the fuck they think all the electricity comes from, thin air? Or how making the batteries to store the electricity for the cars are made? How are you going to talk about women's rights then the person up for Supreme Court Justice is going to say they do not even know what a woman is? These people are dumb as fuck and I can not take the stupidity.

    Then was watching something this morning with a chick talking about Trump is going to be like Hitler. Well first of all, he has been president before so you know that is all bullshit. Second of all, where did the Nazis say they got all their ideas from? The fucking USA. How can you argue for abortion and against eugenics, when the fucking lady that pushed abortion was doing it for eugenics? You can't make this shit up.

    Don't even get me started on all the laws made by government agencies that have no authority to make laws, then it takes an act of god to change it. This shit has gotten out of hand. Weed should have been back legal over 20 years ago. How are you going to tell a mf they can't have a plant that grows naturally out of the ground? That is like saying if an oak tree is found in your yard then you are going to jail.
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  11. #3299

    The data, facts and roughly half of the Trump Admin disagree with you, too, though

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    Well on the contrary the only people that think the economy and life was better under Biden than Trump are deranged cult followers. And let's not forget the issue of free speech, taxpayer funding of transgender inmate surgeries to give them boobies so they can go to a female prison and have fun, gun seizures, end of gas cars, end of gas stoves, the open border, criminals running around the US, the failure to take care of the people affected by the recent hurricane, Dei hiring, infanticide and all the other socially woke programs of the fascist neo-Nazi racist and anti-Semitic Democratic Party.

    We should probably agree to disagree.
    Trump to leave office with the worst jobs record since Herbert Hoover.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump...030044152.html

    You think Trump's Pandemic just "happened" out of the blue and that "nobody predicted" such a thing could happen?

    Nope. Trump defunded and removed the highly-successful Pandemic Prevention Team from those Chinese labs by 2019 contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid. Then he launched into the critical year 2020 lying about it to deflect from his most colossally disastrous economic and national security decisions and mismanagement of all time; that he had it "under control", that "it is disappearing", that "it will go away without a vaccine", mocking the known mitigation measures.

    I submit a much more likely reason out international enemies like Trump so much is because, without them lifting a finger, he managed to kill at least 1 million Americans, kept the American military actively involved in a combat War in Afghanistan for every on of his 1,460 days in office and, as a bonus, led his "patriots", a bloody, violent, cop-killing mob of insurrectionists into battle against American democracy on American Soil on his way out. What's not to love about that if you wish America harm?

    Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak.
    March 26, 2020


    https://www.reuters.com/article/worl...idUSKBN21C3NE/

    Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised.

    https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...3b873e56f80e9a

    Under Fire For Coronavirus Response, Trump Officials Defend Disbanding Pandemic Team.

    https://time.com/5806558/administrat...ght-criticism/

    BTW, Trump himself admitted if we'd only gotten a heads up about those earliest COVID cases "2 weeks sooner, we could have stopped it easily. " Meanwhile, Trump was more responsible than any other person on the planet for responsible parties NOT getting that heads up "2 weeks sooner. ".

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/bob-woodw...091902598.html

    Talking to Woodward on March 19, 2020, Trump said Barron, then 13, asked what was going on and he answered: I said, it came out of China, Barron. Pure and simple. It came out of China. And it shouldve been stopped. And to be honest with you, Barron, they shouldve let it be known it was a problem two months earlier ... the world wouldnt have a problem. We could have stopped it easily.
    It sounds like you have fallen for Trump's lies lock, stock and barrel, my friend. Even his latest seriously harmful BS about nobody taking care of victims of the current hurricanes. Sad.

    Fact check: Six days of Trump lies about the Hurricane Helene response.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/06/polit...ina/index.html

    Yes, I suppose we will have to agree to disagree. Along with Trump's former VP, a couple of his Defense Secretaries, several members of his Joint Chiefs of Staff, a Trump National Security Advisor or two and a couple of dozen other Trump Administration Members who worked and observed him closely and were right there for some of his legendary disastrous results.

  12. #3298
    I put five people on ignore. 2 from the Thailand Threads. 2 from the Colombia Threads and a long time nemesis that started on my ass in the Dominican Republic Threads.

    How you like me now?

  13. #3297
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    With the possible exception of Putin, Xi, Kim, Erdogan and a handful of others around the globe, who are big fans of his for other reasons.
    Nah. Those folks respect him because they know he won't put up with their bullshit. (Unlike the current administration which wouldn't even try to punch itself out of a wet paper bag for fearing it might offend the bag.

    LOL).

  14. #3296
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    LOL. I have not noticed signs of derangement in anyone pointing out the irrefutable facts about Trump's special place in history as the Worst President of All Time with the Worst Economic, Jobs Creation and National Security policy and stewardship results ever.

    On the contrary. I think one would have to be a deranged cult follower not to have noticed it or to care about it. With the possible exception of Putin, Xi, Kim, Erdogan and a handful of others around the globe, who are big fans of his for other reasons.
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    LOL. I have not noticed signs of derangement in anyone pointing out the irrefutable facts about Trump's special place in history as the Worst President of All Time with the Worst Economic, Jobs Creation and National Security policy and stewardship results ever.

    On the contrary. I think one would have to be a deranged cult follower not to have noticed it or to care about it. With the possible exception of Putin, Xi, Kim, Erdogan and a handful of others around the globe, who are big fans of his for other reasons.
    Well on the contrary the only people that think the economy was better under Biden than Trump are deranged cult followers. Don't remember any wars during his time in office. And let's not forget the issue of free speech, taxpayer funding of transgender inmate surgeries to give them boobies so they can go to a female prison and have fun, gun seizures, end of gas cars, end of gas stoves, the open border, criminals running around the US, the failure to take care of the people affected by the recent hurricane, Dei hiring, infanticide and all the other socially woke programs of the fascist neo-Nazi racist and anti-Semitic Democratic Party.

    We should probably agree to disagree.

  15. #3295
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    LOL. I have not noticed signs of derangement in anyone pointing out the irrefutable facts about Trump's special place in history as the Worst President of All Time with the Worst Economic, Jobs Creation and National Security policy and stewardship results ever.

    On the contrary. I think one would have to be a deranged cult follower not to have noticed it or to care about it. With the possible exception of Putin, Xi, Kim, Erdogan and a handful of others around the globe, who are big fans of his for other reasons.
    Well on the contrary the only people that think the economy and life was better under Biden than Trump are deranged cult followers. And let's not forget the issue of free speech, taxpayer funding of transgender inmate surgeries to give them boobies so they can go to a female prison and have fun, gun seizures, end of gas cars, end of gas stoves, the open border, criminals running around the US, the failure to take care of the people affected by the recent hurricane, Dei hiring, infanticide and all the other socially woke programs of the fascist neo-Nazi racist and anti-Semitic Democratic Party.

    We should probably agree to disagree.

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