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[Turgid]

For a Thai man to pay for sex in Pattaya is sad. Many bar girls pay for sex with a Thai man, one way or another. For a younger Thai man to have to pay rent in Pattaya is rare.

Question: Do go-go girls pay for sex with Thai guys?

[SubCmdr]

I have no hard age requirements. Last trip I had 6 girls who stood out above the rest: three were under 23 years, one was mid 30's, and two were mid to late 40's. The few poor sessions I had were with 20-something girls.

Remember that we dont really know their ages until we see their ID. It is common for them to tell us a younger age and then have an ID that shows much older. This is a side perk of reception holding her ID while she is in your room.

I don't care how old she is. I care about the cost for me to ejaculate into one of her orifices. Some 40 year olds have slim firm gym bodies. Some girls in their 20's are fat and out of shape. What I have noticed is that older gals really like the sex you give them. My Big Black Dick be sending girls into convulsive, eye rolling, orgasmic fits. Dem bitches should be paying me. Holla!

My rule is below 30. I won't fuck an over 30 unless she is a screaming hottie.

If hard and fast rules work for you that is great!

FYI, I'm still here! ROTFLMAO!

[SubCmdr]

You do you. I do me.

Wouldn't have it any other way No reason for anyone to get defensive while reading my words up in here. I am a complete advocate of people being able to do things the way they want and to be able to report it without it being sliced and diced to death by those welding their ginsu keyboards.

Bottom line is what we both found something that works for US.

Absolutely!

I'm sure there are a ton of girls available online that are pretty.

I didn't say the girls online are NOT pretty. Just the opposite. I was just comparing and contrasting. Giving you my view that when I go out and look at girls in person I can see WHY the market is the way it is with my own eyeballs.

I walked past XS early just a few nights ago and there were a ton of girls standing outside. I carefully looked at each an everyone of them. I understand how a certain type of man might find them esthetically pleasing. But I thought they were just a bunch of knock kneed bimbos walking like hos. NO ASS! Well there was one with ass. She was fine as fuck. I would have bar fined her after a drink or two.

For me it comes down to this: Like when I was in 808 and the DJ played Not Like Us by Kendrick Lamar. It goes a little something like this:

The settlers was usin' town folk to make 'em richer
Fast-forward, 2024, you got the same agenda
They not like us, they not like us, they not like us!

For many years White culture dominated the world, a legacy of colonialism. As a result white skin was revered, especially in Asia. Now Korean and Japanese culture is ascending. This went along with the growth of the Tiger economies and the decline in the West. As the stock of White skin has fallen, there is a lot of angst amongst the singlet wearing beer bellied pensioners from Europe and America about how the Asians are "spoiling the market". White men need to get used to the fact that just having pale skin is no longer a ticket to free or unlimited low cost pussy in SEA. Even in poorer countries like Philippines and Indonesia women are no longer throwing themselves at any random white man. The world has changed and is never going back to how it was. You can adapt to the game or drop out but its not changing for you.

DAMN STRAIGHT brother. Let them know what time it is up in here!

I found one of my favorite WS gogo girls on TF during COVID for a fraction of the cost you would pay to BF her from Palace. I'm just much too lazy to sift through trying to find them. My fingers get too sore scanning left or right.

Everyone has their own style I found a Soi 6 girl who comes over after her shift and sees me for a fraction of the cost she charges in the Soi 6 bar. No No Lady Drinks; No bar fine; There are many ways to hire a prostitute in Pattaya. That is why I like the place so much.

[Banana Boi]

I will be the first to admit that 90% of the girls in the gogo bars are younger and more attractive than the girls I pull off of Thai Friendly even if they are young. But I pay 1000 - 1500 THB on average with no lady drinks and no bar fine. Now, I am not hating on Agogos or the guys who Bar Fine the girls from them. I just do me, they can do things as they choose. I just have yet to be able to justify the money it takes to take a girl out of Agogo. Don't get me wrong. I'll buy a bottle up in the place and ball like a mother fucking pro. But afterwards I'll goto look for a princess standing under a palm tree and take her to the short time hotel for 1250 THB total. That's just me.

You do you. I do me. Bottom line is what we both found something that works for US. I'm sure there are a ton of girls available online that are pretty. I found one of my favorite WS gogo girls on TF during COVID for a fraction of the cost you would pay to BF her from Palace. I'm just much too lazy to sift through trying to find them. My fingers get too sore scanning left or right.

That is not only. That is a damn good amount for the average Thai person. Remember the minimum wage is 300 baht per day.

I guess in my mind I was thinking of Farang bar managers for some reason. Certainly the Farang manager at a busy Soi 6 bar or a place like like Billabong or Maggie May (no idea if their managers are Thai or Farang) isn't working there for 14k USD per annum?

[HorseTrader]

My rule is below 30. I won't fuck an over 30 unless she is a screaming hottie.

I have no hard age requirements. Last trip I had 6 girls who stood out above the rest: three were under 23 years, one was mid 30's, and two were mid to late 40's. The few poor sessions I had were with 20-something girls.

Remember that we don’t really know their ages until we see their ID. It is common for them to tell us a younger age and then have an ID that shows much older. This is a side perk of reception holding her ID while she is in your room.

[Nyezhov]

Not only in Thailand. Being a john for years on end in any country puts you in a good position to realize women's short shelf life. It's exceptional for a girl to still be attractive enough 5 years on. All the more reason never to marry.

There are outliers but there's no way to know in advance. Usually if you start with a girl when she's say 28 and she is still nearly as hot when she is 33, chances are she'll still be kind of hot at 40. All the same, it's sad to have to stop seeing a girl because she's past it. My own ageing depresses me, but the ageing of women who meant somewhat to me in my life depresses me even more.

My rule is below 30. I won't fuck an over 30 unless she is a screaming hottie.

[Expat American]

I've always had a similar question. Everywhere we see blame on the Koreans and Japanese increasing the prices. Look at the type of girls the Koreans and Japanese generally go for. They have a certain look. Koreans and Japanese wouldn't touch 80-90% of the "Farang" style girls. This is only from my extensive Walking Street gogo bar experience. The girls who get barfined are the SAME ones night in night out. There are MANY girls I have never seen barfined unless the customer is named Rob Jones.

For many years White culture dominated the world, a legacy of colonialism. As a result white skin was revered, especially in Asia. Now Korean and Japanese culture is ascending. This went along with the growth of the Tiger economies and the decline in the West. As the stock of White skin has fallen, there is a lot of angst amongst the singlet wearing beer bellied pensioners from Europe and America about how the Asians are "spoiling the market". White men need to get used to the fact that just having pale skin is no longer a ticket to free or unlimited low cost pussy in SEA. Even in poorer countries like Philippines and Indonesia women are no longer throwing themselves at any random white man. The world has changed and is never going back to how it was. You can adapt to the game or drop out but its not changing for you.

[XXL]

One of the drawbacks of living in Thailand for 5+ years is watching bargirls age out.

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Not only in Thailand. Being a john for years on end in any country puts you in a good position to realize women's short shelf life. It's exceptional for a girl to still be attractive enough 5 years on. All the more reason never to marry.

There are outliers but there's no way to know in advance. Usually if you start with a girl when she's say 28 and she is still nearly as hot when she is 33, chances are she'll still be kind of hot at 40. All the same, it's sad to have to stop seeing a girl because she's past it. My own ageing depresses me, but the ageing of women who meant somewhat to me in my life depresses me even more.

[LittleBigMan]

Thought that was weekly salary! Are you saying a Pattaya bar manager overseeing 200 staff and bar girls makes 14,000 USD per year? That's only 1315 baht ($39 US) per day! WTF.

I don't know any manager Thai that gets paid weekly. It is usually monthly I will have to look at the add again. But you might have a point since ad is listed with other jobs. Although everything seem to be based on 7-10-15 contract until it can be confirm? I'm opened?

Prior to covid the Happy group, Happy, Pepprmint, Beach, Bacarra I knew all the Thai manager know that wasnt the case although majority were monthly contract then the amount listed was what it was thrown out to me then.

If that amount is a week there would be Doctors / Lawyers applying LOL, I know one of the mamasan at Peppermint former showgirl Barrara doesn't make that otherwise she wouldn't be begging me to buy her drinks LOL.

The pay for spreading one leg is on a different level different work rules there is positive and negatives to going legit.
Being in Union labor I had supervisor they couldnt wait for a chance to get out once they found out my take home pay.

[Intrepid123]

So what you are saying is that there is a more supply now in those bars but higher prices despite that? The argument about the koreans would make sense if there was enough koreans for everybody, but there is not. Not on soi 6 and not in any other place. There is not enough koreans to keep all ladies busy. What happends is that the koreans go for the cutest girls and the rest get no customers or little off them when others get detered by the prices. Its exactly what has happened in gogo and Angeles city. This whole thing that is about high prices because koreans pay it really does not benefit the medium looking staff.

It's more like the higher prices are causing more girls to be attracted to Soi 6. Many do fail of course. The ones that are shy, fat, ugly, old. - but many others can make a ton of money if they play their cards right. The word spreads and more want to come.

There might not be Koreans for everyone but there are MUCH more Koreans now than before Covid. I was in a bar the other day having a few drinks with a girl. I bought her like 2-3 drinks in the 30 minutes we were together. And I noticed a Korean dude sitting along across the bar and giving me a bad look (the girl was all over me). Anyway I was about to leave and as soon as I went to pay my bill he immediately pulled the horn and also bought her a huge tower of 36 shots.

I don't consider myself a very cheap guy, I might even buy a rack if the girl deserves it, but this Korean was "worth" 8-10 times a customer like myself.

[KumuMan]

I do not understand this post:

The Japanese and Koreans only want to rent Lamborghinis or Ferraris. They are willing to pay for them. So what exactly is the problem? If you also want to rent Lamborghinis or Ferraris you simply pay the rental fee.

How does one justify complaining about prices in a market system? If you cannot afford a rent a Lamborghini or Ferrari then you better stay in your economic lane and rent the MB, BMW or Audi. In my opinion people making these complaints want something but they don't want to pay for it. To me that smacks of FSS (Farang Superiority Syndrome) If you are going fly half way around the world and you want to operate in a different culture then you better bring your A game or go back to the part of the world where you feel superior.

This is not directed at you Banana Boi. I am a considered a new poster here according to statements I have read just recently even though I have been posting here on a consistent basis for nearly 18 months. So please explain it to me. Because it looks like a bunch of wage slaves that have not put the work in to be able to pay for what they want criticizing individuals who have simply because they don't look like them. I have a word for that. But I won't use it yet until I gain more understanding of the situation.

Well said SB truly a realistic perspective.

[SubCmdr]

I agree with your analysis 100% You can't expect a Maserati when you pay for a Toyota Camry.

From years ago those who "felt" priced out of the market (due to Japanese and Koreans raising prices) continually posted in the Thailand threads how their "rich" Asian counterparts are ruining Thailand pricing. This is why I mentioned that the Koreans and Japanese aren't even going after the same girls the "Farang" are. Currently I've been reading the Philippines threads and all I read is how the Koreans have ruined the market by paying higher rates. Now I haven't been to PI yet but I can bet when I arrive the so called "Korean bars" have way better quality girls than the "Farang bars" (no different than Walking Street vs LK Metro gogo bars in Pattaya). So where will I be? At the "Korean bars".

I'm not sure if I answered your questions. I believe we're on the same side. I always laugh when I hear a guy saying they don't like gogo bars. For me what's not to like. 100+ girls dancing in your face. But when they admit why they don't like gogo bars it's because they don't want to pay for the "best looking" girls. ST and LT for gogo bars have been the same since at least 2015. BF for Pattaya at least has gone up a tad because of tiered pricing in 2016. Lady drinks are out of control but all you really have to do is buy one. None if you're a "handsum man".

I will be the first to admit that 90% of the girls in the gogo bars are younger and more attractive than the girls I pull off of Thai Friendly even if they are young. But I pay 1000 - 1500 THB on average with no lady drinks and no bar fine. Now, I am not hating on Agogos or the guys who Bar Fine the girls from them. I just do me, they can do things as they choose. I just have yet to be able to justify the money it takes to take a girl out of Agogo. Don't get me wrong. I'll buy a bottle up in the place and ball like a mother fucking pro. But afterwards I'll goto look for a princess standing under a palm tree and take her to the short time hotel for 1250 THB total. That's just me. One day I am going to bar fine a girl out of Agogo. It will be a special night for me.

[Banana Boi]

Japanese and Koreans are to blame for what exactly?

I do not understand this post:

The Japanese and Koreans only want to rent Lamborghinis or Ferraris. They are willing to pay for them. So what exactly is the problem? If you also want to rent Lamborghinis or Ferraris you simply pay the rental fee.

How does one justify complaining about prices in a market system? If you cannot afford a rent a Lamborghini or Ferrari then you better stay in your economic lane and rent the MB, BMW or Audi. In my opinion people making these complaints want something but they don't want to pay for it. To me that smacks of FSS (Farang Superiority Syndrome) If you are going fly half way around the world and you want to operate in a different culture then you better bring your A game or go back to the part of the world where you feel superior.

I agree with your analysis 100% You can't expect a Maserati when you pay for a Toyota Camry.

From years ago those who "felt" priced out of the market (due to Japanese and Koreans raising prices) continually posted in the Thailand threads how their "rich" Asian counterparts are ruining Thailand pricing. This is why I mentioned that the Koreans and Japanese aren't even going after the same girls the "Farang" are. Currently I've been reading the Philippines threads and all I read is how the Koreans have ruined the market by paying higher rates. Now I haven't been to PI yet but I can bet when I arrive the so called "Korean bars" have way better quality girls than the "Farang bars" (no different than Walking Street vs LK Metro gogo bars in Pattaya). So where will I be? At the "Korean bars".

I'm not sure if I answered your questions. I believe we're on the same side. I always laugh when I hear a guy saying they don't like gogo bars. For me what's not to like. 100+ girls dancing in your face. But when they admit why they don't like gogo bars it always comes down to the Benjamins. They don't want to pay the going rate for the "best looking" girls. ST and LT for gogo bars have been the same since at least 2015. BF for Pattaya has gone up a tad because of tiered pricing in 2016. Lady drinks are out of control but all you really have to do is buy one. None if you're a "handsum man".

[Mr Enternational]

Thought that was weekly salary! Are you saying a Pattaya bar manager overseeing 200 staff and bar girls makes 14,000 USD per year? That's only 1315 baht ($39 US) per day! WTF.

That is not only. That is a damn good amount for the average Thai person. Remember the minimum wage is 300 baht per day. These bar folks are not getting rich. Most of them have not even finished high school. Now can you understand why chicks will accept 1200 baht LT. Some people come to pattaya and make 400 and 500 per day in normal jobs. I know a girl that works in a Russian restaurant making 400 per day. She said the Russians do not give tips. Most people would kill to get 1300 baht per day.

[SubCmdr]

I do not understand this post:

I've always had a similar question. Everywhere we see blame on the Koreans and Japanese increasing the prices. Look at the type of girls the Koreans and Japanese generally go for. They have a certain look. Koreans and Japanese wouldn't touch 80-90% of the "Farang" style girls. This is only from my extensive Walking Street gogo bar experience. The girls who get barfined are the SAME ones night in night out. There are MANY girls I have never seen barfined unless the customer is named Rob Jones.

The Japanese and Koreans only want to rent Lamborghinis or Ferraris. They are willing to pay for them. So what exactly is the problem? If you also want to rent Lamborghinis or Ferraris you simply pay the rental fee.

How does one justify complaining about prices in a market system? If you cannot afford a rent a Lamborghini or Ferrari then you better stay in your economic lane and rent the MB, BMW or Audi. In my opinion people making these complaints want something but they don't want to pay for it. To me that smacks of FSS (Farang Superiority Syndrome) If you are going fly half way around the world and you want to operate in a different culture then you better bring your A game or go back to the part of the world where you feel superior.

This is not directed at you Banana Boi. I am a considered a new poster here according to statements I have read just recently even though I have been posting here on a consistent basis for nearly 18 months. So please explain it to me. Because it looks like a bunch of wage slaves that have not put the work in to be able to pay for what they want criticizing individuals who have simply because they don't look like them. I have a word for that. But I won't use it yet until I gain more understanding of the situation.