Bangkok Reports

[Giovanni Volo]

Interesting.

But how old are you?

It was easy to socialize with students?

Can you tell how do you book the University dorm?

How about.

1. Got myself a monthly stay in a university dorm that is coed.

2. 1 km away walk to a 5 star gym where celebrities work out for less than $25 a month. Pool / Sauna / Yoga / Dance / Gym / Boxing and more. All coed. And I go everyday.

3. Gym located in a 8+ floor mall full of university students and food galore.

4. Cheaper street food still everywhere at student prices.

5. Hotels that some these students bang out of is all within walking distance. Price less than 1000.

The coed university dorm is the difference maker. They trust me LOL. Big cities can be fun.

[ShyBoy143]

Longer term means "relationship".

Ill pay my 3 K once a month.

P.S. Only two girls of the hundred at Thermae have asked me for 5 K.

If managed well, P4P arrangements can remain for years if the people involved are rational enough.

My longest running P4P arrangement is with a 40 yo (now) extremely petite civvie. Earlier weekly, now more like once / twice in 6 months.

Except the obvious red flags, most have lasted with varying meeting frequency for 1-2 years.

[Werqweq]

Also a few quoted with "condom no anal" does that mean the ones not quoting that, it's assumed BBFS and anal is on the table?

Absolutely. You might note a very small minority will also quote no ass-to-mouth, no drinking pee, no gangbangs. You can make the same assumption about that as far as the rest of the women are concerned.

[Llantarnam]

I've been on TF getting ready for my holiday in BKK for 2 weeks. I don't want to screw it up for everyone on the future for the market, so I've been getting girls replying 2. 5 k-5 k ST and 8 k-10 k LT. I've read it's usually 3 k for gogo bars (fine and girl) is that correct?

Also a few quoted with "condom no anal" does that mean the ones not quoting that, it's assumed BBFS and anal is on the table? Thanks for all the great Intel. I'm really looking forward to this adventure. It's my first time in BKK.

Use condom, no anal is a common reply from TF girls when asked what services they offer.

You shouldn't assume anything regarding what you are going to get during a meeting. It is also common for TF girls to agree to services to get a booking and then try to worm their way out of it when in the room (which is why it is important to pay after the event).

[TheDerilious]

Hi all, I recently visited Bangkok and wanted to give you an overall report. I stayed for 2 weeks and, having visited the vast majority of tourist locations already, pretty much ran it as revolving door of WGs (I had an itch that needed scratching LOL). I won't focus on every girl but I did decide to try gameplan a few major places to really see what's up and give an honest take. My daily schedule generally looked like this; Morning. Massage and relax, Lunch. Online girl, Afternoon. Massage / soapy girl, Night. Thermae. Just a note for my style, I don't really care about age too much as long as they don't look visibly wrinkled and enjoy good, passionate service; I wasn't hunting for 20 year olds who do bareback anal. Additionally, I was staying at grande centre point terminal 21 so I did a lot of outcall ordering because I wanted to enjoy the amenities and didn't want to travel around. I much preferred to stay at the pool or spa and sip on some drinks while waiting for a delivery on this trip. I am on the young side so I can cum a lot still and I booked this vacation with this explicit goal, which is why I went for the 2-3 girl per day plan. I also prefer 2 hours to 1 hour meetups. Still, even after a few days, I had to take a break from soreness, so keep that in mind if you are planning something similar. Overall, I'm not sure if I'll keep doing that because it all kinda blended together for me LOL.

Online Girls.

Finding quality WGs is always hard in the early afternoon from my experience (Canada and US are good here) and Bangkok was no exception. Since most of the girls were up late the previous night, I found it hard sample new chicks or even repeats unless I set something up earlier the previous day. While I built up a few numbers from the soapies and Thermae, I took to TF and tried out some of the few escort agencies that were available. I tried out Bangkok Golden Escorts and did enjoy their girls. They have a small lineup but I can generally say that they gave some great service. I didn't feel that any of the girls were amazing stunners but they were attractive enough, spoke good english, and put in some good work. The price is higher than what you can get elsewhere, but I felt that the agency could be worth it if you are looking for a "baseline" good experience during non-peak hours. I tried a few smooci girls as well (verified ages only) and the experience was more mixed; some girls were more mechanical while others were much more engaged. The reviews on the site were not very accurate, outside of whether the girls knew english, so I wouldn't put too much stock in them. I would probably stick more with the number of good reviews to get a feel for if a girl is a proper professional or not. I didn't go to any of the random massage shops because I wasn't impressed with the early offerings.

Overall, I don't think the money spent here is worth the return, unless it's in small doses. I like getting a good baseline experience but I wouldn't make the online offerings a major part of your visit. It does have its uses though, especially for last minute booking or non-peak times. The price for BGE was 6500 baht for 2 hours (definite premium here) and smooci has the variable pricing according to girls though they generally seem to upcharge by a 1000-2000 baht for comparable service.

Soapies.

Generally after a lunch session, I would relax for a few hours and then hit a fishbowl around 5-6 for a 90 minute session. I hit up Black Caviar and really like the place so I returned a few times. The price is high but I had some great experiences. I felt that the girls were really attractive and was surprised when they gave some great service. Being that this place caters to Asians, I came in expecting an experience where you book the super hot girls for top price and they starfish you. I didn't have one of those and actually had some great time chatting and getting a passionate experience. Of my three session here, 2 were above average while 1 was just average (hot girl, very mechanical). This is definitely YMMV and a major splurge item, but there is no denying that there are some absolute stunners here in my opinion. It's worth a look though I probably wouldn't go more than once or twice unless you demand looks above everything else.

I also hit up Maria and a few other fishbowls to mixed results. The service was good overall and just felt like a "lower" (not strictly worse) tier to BC. I am limited here because I did end up choosing the conventionally attractive girls and didn't go after service queens; essentially, I was picking the girl most attractive to me which can generally lead to mixed results for the obvious reasons. English was completely hit or miss at both BC and the other fishbowls.

For Black Caviar, the prices of the girls I selected were north of 10 k Baht. I don't feel this was worth it due to my own preferences (I would want a lot longer session), but again, if you demand beautiful women as your only real requirement, this is the place to get that. I don't think I would repeat. Overall, I like fishbowls for the novelty but it's not my vibe for lots of repeat visits.

Thermae.

Disclaimer: I generally hit this place up when I visit Bangkok so I know it well. Around 9:30-10 pm, I would go to Thermae and see what was on menu. I'm not too big into the gogo bar setup so I really like a place like Thermae where I can work at my own pace by doing a lap or two, selecting a girl, and bringing her back to my place.

I have heard a lot about anti-Western bias, a preference for Asians, and meh service so I decided to check it out to see what's changed since I haven't been in Bangkok for a few years. In my opinion, I didn't see anything change. It's the same as it ever was. I'm not white nor asian and I didn't have any girls say that they wouldn't come back with me. Terminal 21 is really close (less than 5 minutes walk) and all the girls I selected were fine to walk back there. I did have a couple of girls quote 3. 5-4 k /7-8 k for ST / LT but most of them either offered 3 k /5-6 k for ST / LT or quickly accepted when I countered. I felt that there was still the same cross section of FLs that I'm used to at this place; hotties, uglies, fatties, etc. Overall, there were always at least 10+ 8/10's whenever I visited that were available. This is NOT the place to shoot the shit and linger when talking with the girls. Generally, you can have a quick conversation to gauge their vibe and get a closer look. Then you get their number, make a date, or move on. It feels like a lot of guys want to just sit and sip a beer while the girl fawns over you like a gogo, and that seems to be why you see mongers crying about this joint. From the service side, I didn't have any bad experiences but I always book LT so that may change things. I find that most of the girls are happy to kick their legs up for a short period of time to drink before getting down to business. I did have a couple of mechanical sessions and I hate fake moaning but of the 10 or so girls I sampled here, I would say 4 were amazing, 3 above average, 2 average, and 1 annoying (at first, due to immediate fake moaning).

Final thoughts.

I definitely spent more than I would by normally would by trying out some of the expensive options that I had avoided in the past but I had to know if it was worth or not. I think those types of places do have their value, but personally, I'm not at that stage yet. To me, I think I have moved past (personally and financially) cheap rub-and-tug joints that cater to dudes just looking to bust a nut and I would like to pay a slight, reasonable premium for more attractive women that provide better service. In closing, the demise of Bangkok is, once again, much ado about nothing. Old heads will always cry about the good old days, youngins will whine about having to actually try different places out, expats will whinge about tourists not spending 20 hours a day trolling the back alleys to look for "diamonds" who charge 500 baht ST, etc.

To me, Bangkok is still Bangkok; it has a variety of easily accessible price points for mongers and even provides a variety of ways to access WGs that fits your personality. For the newbie to the experienced tourist, it still remains a top spot to have a fun mongering vacation.

[Steve 9696]

Nana was packed each three nights this past week-end.

I could see Geisha had quite a few new good looking girls in their line up, 803 and 820 come to mind. I know a very cute and nice girl in that place, so each time I go there I stick with her. I was told one of the lookers is in a relationship with one of the waitresses. When I saw her I thought it was a boy, not a good looking one at that. Some completely flat thom boy who does not give a slighty fuck about her appearance. And she scored one of the lookers in the place, life is fucked up. BF is still 1 K for ST and 1200 for LT, girls are trying to get 4 K for ST it seems. The music there is an annoying crazy dumb techno, but the set up is the best in all Nana to be playful with the girls while paying them a drink.

Billboard is still the best place by far to go and sip your drink for 20 minutes without anyone hasseling you. Best dj and best overall atmosphere. There didn't seem to be an improvement from my last visits a few months ago for the quality of their girls. It still does not look like a great place to pickup in my opinion, but a Chinese guy pulled the trigger next to me, BF was 700 for ST and 1 K for LT, 4 K for ST (for 1 or 2 hours, Mamasan said it's up to the girl to decide) 8 K for LT and everything must be paid upfront.

Rainbow 5 didn't have a single place to seat on Saturday night at 1 AM. I had to come back a bit later and try again, many small and very skinny girls, mostly hustlers for drinks. Paid a drink to 3 of them on 2 different nights, all of them drank it speedy to try and get another one. I think it's the only place Indians are not allowed to in Nana, the door man was directing them to the Rainbow 4 instead.

Spanky is the most fucked of all. Not even 10 girls on stage, and interrupted every few minutes for a long and very annoying show. Price of their drink is the highest too, 200 for whatever you order. I'm not even mentionning their customers, the worst kind of all, young Farang dudes discovering gogos with their Farang girlfriends.

Good report thanks. FWIW I was successful paying only barfine up front and paying girl after at Billboard. The mamasan of course implied I should pay all up front by giving me the total number. But I said I will pay barfine now and pay girl after and she said OK without batting an eye.

And agree Billboard is most fun place to hang. I like the music and love the revolving stage of cameltoe and stripper heels!

[Goatscrot]

Not just bar girls, the parking lot of the Nana hotel was full of girls looking for a place to sleep and often you could pick them up for just letting them sleep in your room. I found one of the most epic finds of my life there ca 2004, a half Indian half Thai girl that blew my world. In return trips ID spend 3 days with her and give her a $100 gift at the end and she was happy. More importantly she was kinky as shit, loved sex more than me. One day she turned up at my nice 5 star hotel wearing a full latex white Nurses outfit with red fishnets and fuck me pumps. She walked up to my room and knocked on my door and I was like "you walked through the lobby like that and nobody stopped you?" Talk about guest friendly hotel. LOL. One trip on my last day I had checked out of the room and we were having lunch and she said follow me. She took me into the men's room, into a stall and blew me again, saying she wanted to taste my cum one last time before I left. Those were truly the days. All I can do now is enjoy the videos cause she was quite the little porn star wannabe. LOL.

Absolutely. Parking lots, Sukhumvit between Soi 3 and 19 just full of working gals back in the day. And after 10 pm it was basically just p4 p gals and mongers on the street. Thanks for sharing the great memory of the good ole days.

[Nyezhov]

I've been on TF getting ready for my holiday in BKK for 2 weeks. I don't want to screw it up for everyone on the future for the market, so I've been getting girls replying 2. 5 k-5 k ST and 8 k-10 k LT. I've read it's usually 3 k for gogo bars (fine and girl) is that correct?

Also a few quoted with "condom no anal" does that mean the ones not quoting that, it's assumed BBFS and anal is on the table? Thanks for all the great Intel. I'm really looking forward to this adventure. It's my first time in BKK.

Whatever you want arrange in advance, don't assume anything and don't think what you pay affects anyone else.

[Paolo99]

Nana was packed each three nights this past week-end.

I could see Geisha had quite a few new good looking girls in their line up, 803 and 820 come to mind. I know a very cute and nice girl in that place, so each time I go there I stick with her. I was told one of the lookers is in a relationship with one of the waitresses. When I saw her I thought it was a boy, not a good looking one at that. Some completely flat thom boy who does not give a slighty fuck about her appearance. And she scored one of the lookers in the place, life is fucked up. BF is still 1 K for ST and 1200 for LT, girls are trying to get 4 K for ST it seems. The music there is an annoying crazy dumb techno, but the set up is the best in all Nana to be playful with the girls while paying them a drink.

Billboard is still the best place by far to go and sip your drink for 20 minutes without anyone hasseling you. Best dj and best overall atmosphere. There didn't seem to be an improvement from my last visits a few months ago for the quality of their girls. It still does not look like a great place to pickup in my opinion, but a Chinese guy pulled the trigger next to me, BF was 700 for ST and 1 K for LT, 4 K for ST (for 1 or 2 hours, Mamasan said it's up to the girl to decide) 8 K for LT and everything must be paid upfront.

Rainbow 5 didn't have a single place to seat on Saturday night at 1 AM. I had to come back a bit later and try again, many small and very skinny girls, mostly hustlers for drinks. Paid a drink to 3 of them on 2 different nights, all of them drank it speedy to try and get another one. I think it's the only place Indians are not allowed to in Nana, the door man was directing them to the Rainbow 4 instead.

Spanky is the most fucked of all. Not even 10 girls on stage, and interrupted every few minutes for a long and very annoying show. Price of their drink is the highest too, 200 for whatever you order. I'm not even mentionning their customers, the worst kind of all, young Farang dudes discovering gogos with their Farang girlfriends.

[Nyezhov]

The world is more and more globalized every year and travel gets cheaper and more accessible every year too. People know Thailand = easy paid sex and are willing to pay more since they are used to higher rates at home, it is still a good deal in their mind.

Basically, as time goes on the rates of services (any other non-sex related things) will all start to converge towards a more global average price.

Expats should definitely find something more longer term than going to a gogo bar or massage shop though. "Long term" tourists, I don't know about other countries but I can only stay 1 month on my e-visa's. It's debatable if its worth the effort to try to find a "vacation girlfriend" for that short of a duration. Typically I only stay 2-3 weeks at a time though.

Longer term means "relationship".

Ill pay my 3 K once a month.

P.S. Only two girls of the hundred at Thermae have asked me for 5 K.

[Ampmaster]

I've been on TF getting ready for my holiday in BKK for 2 weeks. I don't want to screw it up for everyone on the future for the market, so I've been getting girls replying 2. 5 k-5 k ST and 8 k-10 k LT. I've read it's usually 3 k for gogo bars (fine and girl) is that correct?

Also a few quoted with "condom no anal" does that mean the ones not quoting that, it's assumed BBFS and anal is on the table? Thanks for all the great Intel. I'm really looking forward to this adventure. It's my first time in BKK.

[QCryptic]

(I have been living here for 12 years, mongered an absurd amount for the first 8, last 4, not too much).

I'll be brief about my take on the market dynamics. You can blame the north asians, or 1 week millionaire tourists or whoever you want, but I think the underlying cause is, Nana plaza, Cowboy and Patpong have been sellers markets for a long time now. This inevitably means buyers will get more and more screwed in different ways. Of course, if you're on a short visit, you're just going to have to suck it up and pay up because the other options are time consuming to figure out. Why expats or tourists on a longer trip don't figure out alternatives (or prefer these places to alternatives) is beyond me.]

The world is more and more globalized every year and travel gets cheaper and more accessible every year too. People know Thailand = easy paid sex and are willing to pay more since they are used to higher rates at home, it is still a good deal in their mind.

Basically, as time goes on the rates of services (any other non-sex related things) will all start to converge towards a more global average price.

Expats should definitely find something more longer term than going to a gogo bar or massage shop though. "Long term" tourists, I don't know about other countries but I can only stay 1 month on my e-visa's. It's debatable if its worth the effort to try to find a "vacation girlfriend" for that short of a duration. Typically I only stay 2-3 weeks at a time though.

[Lcale1982]

I visited Thermae, back around 1997 yes, when the old cop used to hang out there and it was an absolute riot. I am very sad to hear that it is drastically changed. Is there any element of the old days or the old vibe left in the establishment at all or is it a total waste of time? I was shocked to hear that the girls are all wanting 5 K for short time. And they don't budge. I've been on Thai friendly and I'm getting quoted 2000 to 3000 short time. So I don't understand why the same caliber of girls are wanting double that or even more just because they go to Thermae. Makes no sense.

I'm not sure if you meant 3 k but yea the going rate in Thermae is 3 k not 5 k. But guess that might mostly be more for the asian crowd. I've only got quoted 5 k once so guess she just didn't want to go with me. Usually get from 2. 5 to 3 at Thermae. Funny one time I picked up a lady at Thermae and remembered I actually messaged her on TF a few days before. Surprisingly that was the only time I noticed some one on TF that was also at Thermae.

[Expat American]

Well stated. The Go-Go's have been a seller's market for ages, with the exception of covid times when bars were open but the country was closed to tourists. They were definitely a buyer's market in the early 00, but by the late 00's and early 10's that had changed. In fact if you stood outside Nana or on Soi Cowboy when the bars closed you would have numerous girls coming up to you and offering their services if they didn't get a BF that night. I would say that ended by the time of the 06 coup. 06 seems to be a year where things really started to change. Before then when I would go out I would always have a hard time deciding who to take. After that time sometimes I wouldn't be able to find anything appealing.

Not just bar girls, the parking lot of the Nana hotel was full of girls looking for a place to sleep and often you could pick them up for just letting them sleep in your room. I found one of the most epic finds of my life there ca 2004, a half Indian half Thai girl that blew my world. In return trips ID spend 3 days with her and give her a $100 gift at the end and she was happy. More importantly she was kinky as shit, loved sex more than me. One day she turned up at my nice 5 star hotel wearing a full latex white Nurses outfit with red fishnets and fuck me pumps. She walked up to my room and knocked on my door and I was like "you walked through the lobby like that and nobody stopped you?" Talk about guest friendly hotel. LOL. One trip on my last day I had checked out of the room and we were having lunch and she said follow me. She took me into the men's room, into a stall and blew me again, saying she wanted to taste my cum one last time before I left. Those were truly the days. All I can do now is enjoy the videos cause she was quite the little porn star wannabe. LOL.

[GettingTang]

As my last minute five day trip to Bangkok approaches, I had some last-minute questions. I'm hoping some fellow mongers can help me out with. If anyone has boots on the ground, I'll be staying near Nana 7th though 11th and if anyone would like to meet up with similar interests, I'm buying the drinks. Bangkok 5 days then three weeks in Pattaya.

As someone who has traveled about the world, I tend to try to avoid the typical tourist traps. I am fine touring Nana and so forth just for the experience. But for partaking in this hobby, I'the prefer the less common route. Less touristy and commercial.

Are there gentlemen type clubs like in Pattaya or something similar?

Where might I pick up freelance street girls?

What is the best BJ bars in the area?

What clubs might be best to visit where a FL or part time civy might be found?

I visited Thermae, back around 1997 yes, when the old cop used to hang out there and it was an absolute riot. I am very sad to hear that it is drastically changed. Is there any element of the old days or the old vibe left in the establishment at all or is it a total waste of time? I was shocked to hear that the girls are all wanting 5 K for short time. And they don't budge. I've been on Thai friendly and I'm getting quoted 2000 to 3000 short time. So I don't understand why the same caliber of girls are wanting double that or even more just because they go to Thermae. Makes no sense.

Hit me up if your local and maybe we can meetup and do some mongering.