Pattaya Reports

[EihTooms]

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Thats the point, its not legal. It happened to Lao WGs as well and many Lao women look Thai.

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/lao...024184617.html

I dont understand why mongers continue to think its legal. Its technically still illegal, but its simply rarely enforced so everyone can get their tea money, its really not rocket science.

Haven't you noticed that every linked report posted by you and others trying to prove the simple act of consenting adults exchanging sex for money is illegal is loaded with tangential factors and qualifiers that are illegal other than that simple act?

From your Lao girls arrested link:

Authorities in Thailand have arrested eight Lao women, seven of whom entered the country illegally to work as prostitutes, and one who worked as their madam, Radio Free Asia has learned.
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"Usually, people from Laos, Cambodia and Myanmar are allowed to work in Thailand in only certain types of work like construction, but not in entertainment venues or karaoke bars, Col. Pattanapong Sripinproh of the Anti-Trafficking in Persons Unit told RFA Lao.

They are not allowed to work as bar girls or drink girls, he said. If they do, theyll be arrested.

Who are the Thai freelancers paying the cops tea money?

Instead of calling it The Prostitution Prevention and Supression Act why didn't they just call it The Criminalization of Prostitution Act? If they meant to make it illegal in light of The Thai Penal Code failing to do so, why just lick around the edges with this attempt only to "prevent" and "supress" an act that is otherwise not illegal in Thailand?

So this "technically illegal" act as every publication appears to have followed some template to repeat over and over while zero, none of them refer to any Title or Section of the Thai Penal Code to back up their unsubstantiated assertion, is "rarely enforced"?

How about "never" enforced. Because there is no Title or Section in the Thai Penal Code nor a passage in The Prostitution Prevention and Supression Act that clearly states that the act of consenting adults exchanging sex for money is illegal or a crime.

There are only Sections for the tangential factors that invariably show up in these news reports about someone getting arrested; advertising on a public platform, openly and shamefully offering it, running it the same as a legitimate business entrrprise, someone who is not performing the sex living off the proceeds of someone else performing it, procuring or taking by force or seduction (recruiting) someone to work as a prostitute, the usual other age and nonconsentual factors and so on.

Do you know how police in countries where prostitution IS illegal bust the prostitute offering it and customers accepting it?

They don't sit at a distance and "observe" public conversations until they are "certain" someone is openly and shamelessly offering sex for money and then arrest them for having that particular conversation but not for the act itself.

They don't sit around six at a group at sidewalk tables in the heart of Sex For Money districts with so much idle free time on their hands with nothing better to do than hassle bicycle riders walking their bicycles to park at a sidewalk bicycle rack.

The don't wait for the opportunity to bust people for visa violations rather than everyone else in the exact same venue selling Sex For Money but who happen to have no visa problems.

Here is what they do; they wire an attractive plain clothes female police officer, station her on a corner and wait for perpetrators to approach and ask 'How much for a blowjob".

Or they wire a plain clothes male police officer and assign him to walk up to and chat with any likely candidate on the street, African, Lao or otherwise.

Then they just wait for the magic words. Sometimes they string it along until they are in a hotel room or apartment, just to make sure, before they slap on the cuffs.

In several locations in Thailand they would be racking up arrests and 20,000 baht Fines every 15 minutes. Better than tea money.

Has any Thai police force ever done something as obvious and simple as that to "prevent" and "supress" prostitution among the local citizenry?

Not "rarely", has it happened "ever"?

Having observed Thai culture and the Thai mindset over the past 12 years, it is impossible to imagine the government making illegal or a crime anything that an uneducated single mom with few if any better options for making serious good money with her natural resources and initiative, short of her commiting robbery, kidnapping, bodily injury and murder. The public outrage would be historic. They haven't done it and they aren't going to do it.

[Rocko20]

The fact of the matter is that many girls tell the older guys after doing the deed with these older guys that they are better in bed than many young guys.

From a generalized standpoint, based on many talks with WGs whether they're bar girls or freelancers, many WGs prefer a man (customer) with a small penis (so he doesn't "ruin" her vagina and its easier to suck), big wallet, and fast ejaculation. They're not having sex for pleasure and want their job to be as easy as possible.

Doesn't matter how old, young, fat, bald, short, tall, race, color, or ugly you are. Doesn't matter how "good" you are in bed or how much "game" you have.

I think some mongers get caught up in superficial things trying to impress or seduce sex workers. The point is as long as you have money, there will be pussy you can find regardless of your age.

1. Don't be a visibly evident foreigner interloping on legal Thai prostitutes' territory.

Thats the point, its not legal. It happened to Lao WGs as well and many Lao women look Thai.

8 Lao women arrested in Thailand for prostitution

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/lao...024184617.html

I dont understand why mongers continue to think its legal. Its technically still illegal, but its simply rarely enforced so everyone can get their “tea money,” its really not rocket science.

[Rocko20]

Your arguments were already weak from the start

Thai law is not an argument. It's the law. You continue to think sex workers and bar girls in thailand have full legal rights and they don't.

In Germany and the Netherlands sex workers have legal rights and can go straight to the police if a bar doesn't pay up, those legal protections dont exist in Thailand.

She pointed out that owners of venues where sex is traded must themselves pay officials under the table, as prostitution remains illegal in Thailand.

Owners of so-called girly bars also fine the sex workers heavily if they fail to show up at work for a day or two. Sometimes, operators deduct money from the commission the women make on drinks bought for them by customers, hoping they will be too drunk to notice.

And since prostitution is illegal, venues providing sexual services are not registered and therefore not subject to regulations on hygiene and safety.

https://world.thaipbs.or.th/detail/t...d-by-law/48316

Source 1: 1996 Prostitution Suppression Act
Source 2: 4 Africans in Phuket getting arrested for prostitution
Source 3: Plans to repeal the 1996 Prostitution Suppression Act with the Sex Workers Protection Bill

Barfine any girl in thailand and ask her what her legal protections are if the bar refuses to pay her. Nothing. She cant sue the bar or go to the cops because its illegal.

[Sazaholix]

Speaking of keeping young and healthy by a variety of exercises, I'm looking for outrigger canoe club or team in the Pattaya area. In NZ it's called Waka Ama or Va'a.

[Jarango]

The fact of the matter is that many girls tell the older guys after doing the deed with these older guys that they are better in bed than many young guys.

https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/...ath-in-pattaya

Here is a report of the ram's arrest.

Of course, hookers like old guys, less work, more money.

I am in my 70's and have used viagra but don't like it for heart and other reasons. Fact is, performance lags with age. That is discounting centenarians who run marathons etc, I am pretty healthy for my age but my days of bonking half of South East Asia are over. Good luck to those who still can but maybe some of that is schoolboy boasting.

[Turgid]

Why stop. I'm 72, fit, and typically taken for mid-to-late 50's. I'm in Chiang Mai for my 12th winter here, and getting pussy every night. I prefer the massage parlours over bars and the barfine scene. I don't drink, don't smoke, don't take drugs, hike a lot, practice yoga at least 3 times per week, go to the gym at least twice a week. I stay at a family run guest house where it is not appropriate to bring guests to my room. But the massage parlors are a LOT of fun. I have known some of my favorites for more than 7 or 8 years and love spending time with them. And I have already found 3 new ladies this winter. I love Thai pussy! Life is so much fun, even at my age.

The fact of the matter is that many girls tell the older guys after doing the deed with these older guys that they are better in bed than many young guys.

[BeachDrone]

Sorry, but there is no one age fits all when it comes to when we should "hang up our spurs", as you put it. I'm guessing you are still a young lad, so 70 sounds really old to you, but as long as you take care of your health, and especially with the help of the blue pill, there is no reason your bodily functions can't continue working just fine well into your 70's and 80's. There are countless examples of men fathering children in their 70's and 80's, check out some famous examples like Charlie Chaplin, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, Mick Jagger. There's no time limit on when we should stop having fun.

Why stop. I'm 72, fit, and typically taken for mid-to-late 50's. I'm in Chiang Mai for my 12th winter here, and getting pussy every night. I prefer the massage parlours over bars and the barfine scene. I don't drink, don't smoke, don't take drugs, hike a lot, practice yoga at least 3 times per week, go to the gym at least twice a week. I stay at a family run guest house where it is not appropriate to bring guests to my room. But the massage parlors are a LOT of fun. I have known some of my favorites for more than 7 or 8 years and love spending time with them. And I have already found 3 new ladies this winter. I love Thai pussy! Life is so much fun, even at my age.

[SiamMan]

I see a 77 year old Irish guy is being held for murdering a 40+ Thai (bar?) in his Jomtien hotel. He was arrested out taking a stroll as there was a smell of dead flesh in his room. Two points.

1. 77 is probably too old to rock.

2. 77 is definitely too old to bring strange women home. I remember reading years ago of a 70 year old who took a ladyboy home and the ladyboy kicked and battered him every which way.

There comes a time to hang up the spurs.

Sorry, but there is no one age fits all when it comes to when we should "hang up our spurs", as you put it. I'm guessing you are still a young lad, so 70 sounds really old to you, but as long as you take care of your health, and especially with the help of the blue pill, there is no reason your bodily functions can't continue working just fine well into your 70's and 80's. There are countless examples of men fathering children in their 70's and 80's, check out some famous examples like Charlie Chaplin, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, Mick Jagger. There's no time limit on when we should stop having fun.

[D Cups]

Let me guess. You are not 70 yet. There is no one size fits all. Our minds and bodies deteriorate at different rates. One person at 70 will not be the same as another person at 70, or any other age. I have an aunt who is 104 and lives alone. I saw an article the other day of a guy who is 90 and still drives a car.

Salud, Mr. E. I will be a septuagenarian in 2025.

Here it is Christmas Eve Day in the PI and I am happy to report a body count of 78 different girls in 2024. So, my age has not slowed me down. Well, maybe a little HA! Living in the PH with frequent inter-islands trips and also to TH, Jakarta and my annual DR trip helps keep me young at heart. Of course my travel pales in comparison to the legendary Mr. E.

My point is there is still a great future for all you young bucks like the highly sensitive "commander". Keep your vices in check, young fellas, and always remember sex is great for the prostrate so get it as often as you can! Furthermore, fucking a slim and stacked childless 19 year old for two days and nights does wonders for every single cell in your body!

[Supmam]

Sexual compulsion doesn't magically go away.

Esp since the blue pill.

He sounds like he's been using drugs too.

I see a 77 year old Irish guy is being held for murdering a 40+ Thai (bar?) in his Jomtien hotel. He was arrested out taking a stroll as there was a smell of dead flesh in his room. Two points.

1. 77 is probably too old to rock.

2. 77 is definitely too old to bring strange women home. I remember reading years ago of a 70 year old who took a ladyboy home and the ladyboy kicked and battered him every which way.

There comes a time to hang up the spurs.

[Mr Enternational]

1. 77 is probably too old to rock.

2. 77 is definitely too old to bring strange women home. I remember reading years ago of a 70 year old who took a ladyboy home and the ladyboy kicked and battered him every which way.

Let me guess. You are not 70 yet. There is no one size fits all. Our minds and bodies deteriorate at different rates. One person at 70 will not be the same as another person at 70, or any other age. I have an aunt who is 104 and lives alone. I saw an article the other day of a guy who is 90 and still drives a car.

[LittleBigMan]

Maybe you need to read my initial post that quoted the OP's that started this conversation. It was not me. Kindly read and you will see.

Sorry, my comment was not directed at you one bit, I didn't read all the exchanges because to be honest it isn't relevant to me at least and it is silly that it was brought up but that is his right. My comments above his response I thought was funny and childest since I assume he started it now that he didn't like the responses throw in his last comment along with " he don't want to talk about it any longer " I just kind of shake my head we got grown men here write well etc. Big dicks, come here for one main reason then start talking whether it is legal or not! Funny!

[Jarango]

I see a 77 year old Irish guy is being held for murdering a 40+ Thai (bar?) in his Jomtien hotel. He was arrested out taking a stroll as there was a smell of dead flesh in his room. Two points.

1. 77 is probably too old to rock.

2. 77 is definitely too old to bring strange women home. I remember reading years ago of a 70 year old who took a ladyboy home and the ladyboy kicked and battered him every which way.

There comes a time to hang up the spurs.

[Mari1256]

[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2969672]Based on recommendations from the Board I tried to book Mike's Taxi to get me from BKK to Pattaya. I filled out their online booking and added all the details and contact info and heard nothing back. The morning I was leaving MNL I wrote again and begged for a response (I was arriving BKK in the evening). Crickets. Perhaps I booked too late and they were full, but in that business they really need to get back to the customer and let them know that. [.

Next time; try Nams Drivers, very quick in answering and very reliable: 1200 one way.

www.namstaxiladydrivers.com

[PassionSR]

Then you should've read the actual law that led to the arrests (1996 Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act). If prostitution was legal in Thailand, prostitutes would have legal status like in Germany and the Netherlands.

Your arguments were already weak from the start, but are getting weaker as you're grasping for straws.

No, they would not have legal status like in the Netherlands. The point of the prevention and suppression act is to discourage it and to criminalize people profiting from it other than the prostitute herself.

How countries approach legality, criminalization, punishment and taxation is completely separate and has no bearing on other countries (see: Norway vs France vs Germany).

The plan to decriminalize prostitution in Thailand has not been passed. Which is why Africans in Phuket still get arrested for it in 2024.

That doesn't support your argument, it weakens it. If prostitution was illegal they would easily be able to apply that to more than Africans. The reason they get arrested can be anything from the 'public decency' part to working in the country illegally. Or did you forget you're not allowed to work in Thailand (or anywhere in the world) without a work permit?

If you don't like facts and real world examples of arrests, simply call the local Thai police and ask them if prostitution is legal.

Your mileage will vary. Plenty of local police will say it is legal.

The main point is the law. You haven't been able to point to a single law saying prostitution itself is legal. Replace the word 'prostitution' with 'murder' in any of the texts of the act and see how silly it sounds. You'd think murder itself is quite legal and accepted by itself! Guess why? Because prostitution is. I don't have to search hard at all to find a law stating an illegal act is illegal. It's only you guys who seem to have a problem with coming up with it.

So not only is there not a single law that says it is illegal, but in practice nobody gets persecuted for it either. Strange.