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12-31-24 05:57 #2164Senior Member

Posts: 7740A few questions?
If you are paying to put dick in a girl:
1. why do you care if she has a Thai Boyfriend, Thai Husband, Thai Girlfriend?
2. why do you care who she is supporting with the money you are paying her?
3. why do you care how much money she makes?
4. why do you care how many customers she has?
5. why do you care about the sexual practices she engages in when she is not in your presence?
6. why do you care about her other income sources (sponsors)?
When cones to paying a girl for sex:
7. Is the amount she charges related to her appearance.
8. Is it possible to pay her too much? If so, how is that determined?
9. Is it possible to pay her too little? If so, how is that determined?
10. Why do you worry about what others are paying?
11. Can the amount paid be related to she social / sexual services provided?
12. Is is possible that International Tricks place different values on the appearance and sexual services provided by a girl?
13. If those differences exist who makes that value judgment?
14. After that value judgment is made to others have the right to place their judgment on that persons decision?
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12-30-24 17:09 #2163Senior Member

Posts: 5456It is common in Thai culture for women to give money to younger men.
Mothers are often supported by their daughters, but will give money to their sons. There is no age limit on the support. If an 80 year old mother has any cash, she will give it to her 50 year old son.
I know 40+ year old bar girls bringing their daughters to Pattaya to make enough money to support the mother.
If a bar girl has a younger Thai boyfriend in Pattaya, she will throw money him, same as if he were a son. Very common.
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12-28-24 12:34 #2162Senior Member

Posts: 5456Pattaya is surely jammed now. The ladies I know aren't posting on Facebook, which means they are busy.
Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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Farang bar owners are always claiming that there are no customers, which I translate to mean that not every seat in their bar is filled. Having said that, probably 50% of Farang owned bars in Pattaya are not going to have many customers, regardless of High Season. Bars outside of tourist areas only have ExPat customers, for example.
As for SubCmdr, I have no doubt that he is in Pattaya, although his mongering reports are few and vague.
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12-28-24 04:16 #2161Senior Member

Posts: 7740Enjoy your visit Downandup!
When are you leaving Pattaya and returning to sex prison in your country of origin? Do you actually live here?
Originally Posted by Downandup
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No time to read my reports. But plenty of time to write your male bovine excrement about me. I respect that you are not taking your vacation time to read my posts. There is plenty of time. You can read them offline before you log in once you return to the sex prison of your country of origin. Nice report on Soi Bong Koch 8!
Apologies. I missed the part where you said you were a visitor. Enjoy your trip!
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12-27-24 13:15 #2160Senior Member

Posts: 5456I am out of Thailand for a couple of months, but some ladies send me messages to check on me, or ask when I am coming back.
One massage lady is coming on strong. I would normally not respond, but she gives a super prostate massage, so I don't want to lose her. She is fishing for a Farang boyfriend, but she doesn't know that I know she has a Thai husband.
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12-27-24 11:51 #2159Senior Member

Posts: 5456https://aseannow.com/topic/1347277-p...foreign-women/
Pattaya Police Crack Down on Beach Prostitution, Arrest 20 Foreign Women.
"During initial questioning, all 20 women admitted to arriving in Pattaya to work as sex workers catering to foreign clients. Authorities charged them under Section 5 of the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, be. E. 2539 (1996), which prohibits public solicitation for prostitution in a manner deemed open, shameful, or disturbing to the public."
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12-26-24 05:07 #2158Senior Member

Posts: 123Perceived difference. Bars versus massage parlors
I've read this forum for several years. There seems to be a difference in expectations that I do not quite understand. But I'm just a lame geriatic in Chiang Mai and according to some, don't know squat. Very likely, so I'm asking.
It seems to me that the general recommendation and behavior for bars is to go where the bars are, walk by them, stop in a few, maybe buy a lady a drink and chat, and if you connect with her, pay the bar fine and take her to your room for some fun. The interaction in the bar gives something of an idea whether the time spent together will be worthwhile.
For massage parlors, it seems that guys want to know exactly where to go and exactly who to see for a massage plus erotic fun. This is setting unrealistic expectations that are likely to not be met. Why should massage shops be approached differently than ladies in the bars?
I like walking down the streets where the massage shops are (in BKK and CNX, I have never been to Pattaya or Phuket), talk to the ladies, and if I get along with a lady, go in for a massage. The personal interaction gives me an idea whether the time we spend together will be worthwhile.
Just asking.
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12-25-24 15:25 #2157Senior Member

Posts: 5456If you are listening to music with a bargirl, rule #1 is don't play dinosaur music. Bargirls hate classic rock, with few exceptions, and they also don't like Motown type music. In fact, apart from some classics like "Zombie", they zone out on most Western music.
What they do like is Thai music, particularly Isaan.
There's two major classifications of Isaan music. Molarm and Indy.
Molarm has a big stage with mass numbers of dancers. The band is mostly hidden, and there is typically a string of solo singers. The dancers are often ladyboys and gay boys. Lots of them.
Indy is more like Western rock, with a singer on a regular stage and a band. Strangely enough, the core Indy band is modeled after Santana in the early 1970's, and its not unusual to hear snippets of early Santana played by Indy bands. An Indy band might add a brass section and a couple of Thai instruments. The bands are typically competent, but nobody is great.
It's the singers that interest the bargirls. Right now, Lam Yai is number 1, with Mai Pacheree maybe number two, but Noot is rising fast. Nescafe was getting big, but she went to the monkeyhouse for a while. There's a boatload of others: Ann Oradee, NamKaeng, there are a few male singers, too.
Lately, Indy bands have been adding dancers. It starts with 2 female dancers, then 4, then they add men. Typically, the more dancers, the bigger the act.
There are also some big Thai acts, but they aren't so interesting for Isaan bargirls. The one act that has been around for a while is Bodyslam.
Anyway, the guys who have been around for a long time know this stuff, but this is useful for newbies, especially if you take a lady back to your hotel for LT. Best is to put on YouTube, and before you hit the bed, put on a live Lam Yai video, most go for more than an hour.
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12-25-24 00:41 #2156Senior Member

Posts: 5456Yep. Pubic bone on pubic bone.
Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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The problem comes when a lady is inexperienced, gets horny when her pussy is licked, and just wants the man to go harder. A lot harder.
Of course, the vast majority of bar girls will claim to finish in 3 minutes, so they can finish you and get back down to the bar.
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12-24-24 12:37 #2155Senior Member

Posts: 5456A little history.
I was in Pattaya during the big lockdown, when the bars were closed. Most ladies went back to Isaan, but some bars kept their upstairs rooms open, and some ladies decided to stick it out in Pattaya, hoping the bars would re-open quickly. They didn't. So, the ladies spent their days in the room, very few shops were open, and there was nothing to do.
What was worse, once the ladies ran out of money, their Thai men disappeared. First, the money boys went home, and then the boyfriends disappeared, with just a few exceptions.
At this point, I was getting dozens of messages from ladies who needed money and wanted to come to my condo. Since I couldn't go anywhere, I decided to take one for the team, and invited ladies over. In shifts. So, it was 2 at 11 am, 2 at 4 pm, and one for the night. My rule was no fucking, since once I went down that road, I would die for sure. I would just fuck one lady, once in a while.
What was different was the ladies were really horny, since they didn't see men. Once they were drunk, they went out of control. I told them I wouldn't fuck, but they didn't believe me. And if there were multiple ladies, one would distract me while the other tried to climb onto my dick, that was an ongoing problem, since I was horny, I was just trying to control myself. I literally had to push ladies off my dick.
By nighttime, my drinking would catch up to me, and occasionally I would pass out. Since I was in my own condo, it was no big deal, but in the morning, I would wake up naked in bed with a lady next to me, wondering how I got there, and what did I do. Even when I wasn't passed out, the ladies spending the night (there was a curfew) mostly tried to fuck, but few succeeded.
The only ladies who weren't horny had boyfriends who stuck it out in Pattaya, they would play, but they were just working.
I got to the point where it was difficult to drink with ladies all day every day, and when Camel Toe re-opened in September 2021, it was great for me. The ladies all promised to keep coming, but within a few weeks, most had new Farang boyfriend customers, and many stopped messaging me. Camel Toe was jammed, because it could open as a restaurant, even when the bars were closed. I believe there was a period where there was no alcohol at Camel Toe, but the ladies all had a stash.
The lockdown slowly eased, more bars opened, and more tourists came to Pattaya, but it was a gradual process. The ladies were used to coming to the condo to drink, so for a long time, I had regular ladies coming over. Then I started traveling, and my adventures were over. I started having to schedule ladies, with the upside being no problem to fuck, since the numbers were way down.
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12-24-24 05:51 #2154Senior Member

Posts: 18757My Brazilian girlfriend uses the knuckle at the base of her thumb and puts pressure and moves that hand back and forth with her other hand. I once dated another Brazilian girl who had to rub her clit hard on my knee. It is not bone on exposed clit, but bone just above that.
Originally Posted by Explorer8939
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12-22-24 11:14 #2153Senior Member

Posts: 5456That happens on Soi Honey. And Soi Chaiyapoon.
Originally Posted by HorseTrader
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I don't remember any other areas in Pattaya where massage shops are "Special Only".
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12-22-24 03:15 #2152Senior Member

Posts: 18757I got kicked out of the shop at the corner of Soi Buakhao and Soi Diana for the same thing. Well actually a normal massage was available, but they said it would have to be from one of the ladyboys. The ladies are only there to fuck.
Originally Posted by HorseTrader
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12-22-24 03:08 #2151Senior Member

Posts: 2201Not a surprise. Less than a month ago I was coaxed into a massage shop and I asked for a foot massage. She refused and said she only does "special massage". All other forms of massage were not available at that shop.
Originally Posted by TConor
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12-22-24 01:14 #2150Senior Member

Posts: 705Using your logic, why would I go in a massage shop to fuck a girl?
Not necessarily so, I don't remember a lot anymore but I will always remember what a "Massause" said to me many years ago after so-so sex when I asked for my massage. She informed me that she was there to fuck not massage. True story.
Originally Posted by Paolo99
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