Rants and Supid shit in Jakarta

[HotDog666]

You're wrong. And if you can't afford to play, stay home.

Oh well, I guess I must be wrong because you told me I'm wrong.

As for the rest, not worthy of a response.

[SubCmdr]

Dog666 Hot,

Until you present some facts to back up your suppositions you are just spouting your opinion which I happen to think is unadulterated male bovine excrement.

Put some work in and learn economics. Those who do not understand market speak as you do.

What a lame ass response. If you're so immature that you are incapable of taking valid criticism without resorting to churlishness then I pity you. Why is it so difficult for you to understand that when a large body of high income foreigners of a particular culture start applying certain behaviours and characteristics on visits then the natives will associate such behaviours and characteristics with all visitors who resemble one another? Or in your head you think that those serving you distinguish between Americans and Germans when considering whether to try their luck at a tip? Get a grip on yourself, bro.

Example of a poverty thinker

100% with you and yours is a far more intelligent a response than the ridiculous bristling response from this joker above you. I resent the tipping culture greatly too, it is dishonest pricing, unfair on the customer, does absolutely not do what it is putatively intended to do (incentivise superior service) as it becomes the norm, and is moreover morally dubious as it reinforces the customer and server in a superior / subservient powerplay. It's probably for all these reasons that some cultures like the Chinese or Japanese not only don't do tips but they are offended by them in restaurants etc.

Things have got completely out of control in US / Canada. Why should you tip for a coffee server to literally bring you the coffee? Me: "I want an Americano". Him: "Here you are, now do you want to give me a 15%, 20%, or 25% tip for literally handing the coffee to you". WTF. That's not even the worst of it. I was not joking about the checkout MACHINE at a grocery store asking me for a tip. It is nuts. I bought some food from a supermarket and the machine freaking wants tip when *I* scan the items?! WTF to the power of 10.

However in America regardless of what I feel about it they can do what they like- it's their country- and if I visit I have to suck it up. I do NOT want to see it in Indonesia. If I give a tip for incentivisation as part of a deal it's a separate matter but when the security guard at Classic starts freaking asking me for a tip as I walk out for DOING NOTHING WHATSOEVER FOR ME then there is something seriously wrong.

No I don't agree with my man Gabacho on this. I tip based on the quality of service I receive especially at places I frequent on a regular basis. In my opinion, everyone can do what they choose to do. Your time; Your money; Your dick; Your call! But to condemn the workers for a situation they are just trying to survive in as a mother fucker once wrote:

just lame ass excuse given by those who have poverty mentalities

You're wrong. And if you can't afford to play, stay home.

This guy does not like me but he makes a point here I agree with. If you do not have the cash to engage in the International Trickin activities of your choice, then stay home. Work on building your flow, so you can increase your stack. People talk shit to me. The same people who's asses are still working to visit the places I live in because I have passive income to pay for my lifestyle created from a lifetime of busting rocks on the government / corporate wage slave plantations in my country of origin. I did well for myself. I doubt I would have done as well had I spent my life in the low paid service industry.

[HotDog666]

The influence of travelers from the US and Canada is so strong it has forced a change of culture around the world?

That sound like some Jedi Mind Trick fuckery or Vulcan Mind Melds. And just as unbelievable. If I want to read good science fiction I'll look it up on my Kindle.

Keep your day job 666HotDogs!

How you like me now? ROTFLMAO!

What a lame ass response. If you're so immature that you are incapable of taking valid criticism without resorting to churlishness then I pity you. Why is it so difficult for you to understand that when a large body of high income foreigners of a particular culture start applying certain behaviours and characteristics on visits then the natives will associate such behaviours and characteristics with all visitors who resemble one another? Or in your head you think that those serving you distinguish between Americans and Germans when considering whether to try their luck at a tip? Get a grip on yourself, bro.

[HotDog666]

Tipping started in the US and it has its roots in the restaurant industry. It began in the mid 20th century basically restaurants in the US were allowed to pay their waitresses and waiters next to nothing (in many cases as low as $2. 13/ HR) even when the federal minimum wage was higher. The restaurants justifies this low hourly wage by saying that the waitresses would make much more from receiving tips (many people tip 20% or higher in the US) so they can make much more from the tips than the $2. 13/ HR. States such as California have sense increased the hourly wage of waitresses to be online with thst of other jobs but some states in the Midwest, I believe Kansas is one of them, still allow the restaurant to pay the waitress $2. 13 per hour.

So it became basically as though the restaurant was pushing the responsibility of paying the waitress's wages onto the customers. By the 1980's it became customary for customers to tip 20% at restaurants in the USA.

Once I became of age and started traveling outside the US in the 2000's and 2010's I realized in other countries such as in Mexico and Colombia that tipping was not expected of me. Most locals do not leave tipd at cheap local restaurants and it's usually only other gringos / bules who leave tips..

100% with you and yours is a far more intelligent a response than the ridiculous bristling response from this joker above you. I resent the tipping culture greatly too, it is dishonest pricing, unfair on the customer, does absolutely not do what it is putatively intended to do (incentivise superior service) as it becomes the norm, and is moreover morally dubious as it reinforces the customer and server in a superior / subservient powerplay. It's probably for all these reasons that some cultures like the Chinese or Japanese not only don't do tips but they are offended by them in restaurants etc.

Things have got completely out of control in US / Canada. Why should you tip for a coffee server to literally bring you the coffee? Me: "I want an Americano". Him: "Here you are, now do you want to give me a 15%, 20%, or 25% tip for literally handing the coffee to you". WTF. That's not even the worst of it. I was not joking about the checkout MACHINE at a grocery store asking me for a tip. It is nuts. I bought some food from a supermarket and the machine freaking wants tip when *I* scan the items?! WTF to the power of 10.

However in America regardless of what I feel about it they can do what they like- it's their country- and if I visit I have to suck it up. I do NOT want to see it in Indonesia. If I give a tip for incentivisation as part of a deal it's a separate matter but when the security guard at Classic starts freaking asking me for a tip as I walk out for DOING NOTHING WHATSOEVER FOR ME then there is something seriously wrong.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Denial ain't no river bro. No, these places didn't "do this on their own". They literally have had Americans supplanting their own customs to these tourists like a previous poster exemplified and resulting in the entitled demands for minimal service in these countries. I've seen it with my own eyes, and others I know have relayed the same. Tipping is an American culture. It's not a Dutch culture. Or German culture. Or British culture. Or Indian culture. Or Japanese Culture. Or Chinese Culture. Or. Whatever. If you cannot take meaningful criticism then do some introspection.

You're wrong. And if you can't afford to play, stay home.

[SubCmdr]

Basic economics says that market behavior of one individual does not affect an entire market it it is inefficient. Because a market is a dynamic operation effected by many factors. In order for the actions of one individual to have an effect on the entire market that market information has to be know to the entire market. One individual cannot drive pussy prices up. Market providers are free to set prices as they see fit. Market participants can choose to pay the prices they choose. Tips do not drive overall market prices up!

Why?

Because in the pussy market no one else know what anyone else is doing. If in Jakarta with set prices in the brothels, once the girl in the room with you who else knows what happens if you don't come to ISG and report it. Do any of you think the majority of market transaction for pussy are reported let allow accurately? Where are the recored for reference for all the participants in the market to see them?

[SubCmdr]

No, but I have been to much of the the rest of the US, and Canada. The latter where I got asked for a tip by a check out MACHINE at a supermarket when I scanned the shopping myself. ROTFL.

The influence of travelers from the US and Canada is so strong it has forced a change of culture around the world?

That sound like some Jedi Mind Trick fuckery or Vulcan Mind Melds. And just as unbelievable. If I want to read good science fiction I'll look it up on my Kindle.

Keep your day job 666HotDogs!

How you like me now? ROTFLMAO!

[Gabacho]

Denial ain't no river bro. No, these places didn't "do this on their own". They literally have had Americans supplanting their own customs to these tourists like a previous poster exemplified and resulting in the entitled demands for minimal service in these countries. I've seen it with my own eyes, and others I know have relayed the same. Tipping is an American culture. It's not a Dutch culture. Or German culture. Or British culture. Or Indian culture. Or Japanese Culture. Or Chinese Culture. Or. Whatever. If you cannot take meaningful criticism then do some introspection.

Tipping started in the US and it has its roots in the restaurant industry. It began in the mid 20th century basically restaurants in the US were allowed to pay their waitresses and waiters next to nothing (in many cases as low as $2. 13/ HR) even when the federal minimum wage was higher. The restaurants justifies this low hourly wage by saying that the waitresses would make much more from receiving tips (many people tip 20% or higher in the US) so they can make much more from the tips than the $2. 13/ HR. States such as California have sense increased the hourly wage of waitresses to be online with thst of other jobs but some states in the Midwest, I believe Kansas is one of them, still allow the restaurant to pay the waitress $2. 13 per hour.

So it became basically as though the restaurant was pushing the responsibility of paying the waitress's wages onto the customers. By the 1980's it became customary for customers to tip 20% at restaurants in the USA.

Once I became of age and started traveling outside the US in the 2000's and 2010's I realized in other countries such as in Mexico and Colombia that tipping was not expected of me. Most locals do not leave tipd at cheap local restaurants and it's usually only other gringos / bules who leave tips.

Meanwhile fast forward to modern 21st century US and the asking for tips has expanded 10 fold even to include jobs that were never paid $2. 13/ HR such as tipping a hotel worker, tipping a taxi driver, Grocery stores asking for donations, tip boxes at fastfood places, etc. The list goes on and one.

Quite frankly I never fucking tip and I don't care what the hell anyone thinks of it. If a waitress feels she is underpaid she shouldn't beg for tips from the customers, she should talk to her employer.

How about we cancel the American tipping culture?

-Gabacho.

[HotDog666]

Exactly how would you know? Have you ever been to Kansas?

What great country do you hail from?

No, but I have been to much of the the rest of the US, and Canada. The latter where I got asked for a tip by a check out MACHINE at a supermarket when I scanned the shopping myself. ROTFL.

[HotDog666]

So which perfect country are you from then? Americans aren't going overseas and effing up the tipping scene in other countries. Those places you mentioned did that all on their own.

Denial ain't no river bro. No, these places didn't "do this on their own". They literally have had Americans supplanting their own customs to these tourists like a previous poster exemplified and resulting in the entitled demands for minimal service in these countries. I've seen it with my own eyes, and others I know have relayed the same. Tipping is an American culture. It's not a Dutch culture. Or German culture. Or British culture. Or Indian culture. Or Japanese Culture. Or Chinese Culture. Or. Whatever. If you cannot take meaningful criticism then do some introspection.

[SubCmdr]

Sorry but have to ask, why would you want to carry around that much cash? I certainly would not. I wouldn't spend that much in Jakarta in an entire week.

Poverty Mentality

This should not bother you as you should have me on ignore by now. ROTFLMAO!

[SubCmdr]

Says the chump with more than 4,000 posts on here which means he has no life at all.

How did you come to that conclusion? Certainly not be reading my posts about being in the club. I am very much a real person. Ask Gabacho if you need verification.

I have a right to defend myself from idiots like you, son. But you're not worth the bother.

Trigging your was unintentional. I thought that because this is the: Rants and Stupid shit in Jakarta you could handle it. But apparently you are one of those that can dish it out but cannot take it!

Blocking and reporting you now.

Join the club. If it helps you get through your ISG experience better please do!

Enjoy your chlamydia.

Don't come to Thailand and say that within earshot of me or anyone else. That is making a defamatory statement and could result in civil and criminal penalties. But you are not the first person to engage in those activities. I will just add you as an additional co-defendant.

Anyone who engages in BBFS knows the risks involved. There should be no risks involved when you are in a monogamous relationship. FYI: I left the (Dis) United States of America over 13 years ago. And the incident you comment on happened 15 years before that. The implication that it was recent is in your mind only.

The difference between me and many others is that I have a One dick policy. I only worry about my own dick!

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Farang Jacolo,

There is not favoritism. The problem is that you don't understand the concept of a report. A report consists of:

1. Where you hired your prostitute.

2. The social / sexual services your prostitute agreed to provide you.

3. The amount that you paid your prostitute.

Follow these three simple rules and you will not have your posts being deleted for being argumentative. If you want to talk shit it has become obvious to me that should be done in the Rants sections available in the threads worldwide on ISG. It is so easy even a dumb ass Gaijin Gigolo could do it. Or maybe I am giving him too much credit.

Stop being a passive/agressive girly man and take your shots like a man where you should. Right here!

Says the chump with more than 4,000 posts on here which means he has no life at all. I have a right to defend myself from idiots like you, son. But you're not worth the bother. Blocking and reporting you now. Enjoy your chlamydia.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

That's good to hear.

Americans have given a great deal of good things to the world such as microprocessors, space travel, and free porn. They've also given a great deal of bad things to the world such as fast food, fizzy drinks and the tips culture. Seriously gets my goat that Americans pay their service staff paltry amounts and rely on customers to give outrageous level of tips and not content with that then they transplant that to the rest of the world and acclimatise the rest of the world and Demand tips not for great service but just out of total entitlement. Vietnam and Sri Lanka have been fucked up, Thailand is on its way, and I guess Indonesia will be next. Please stop. You're not in Kansas anymore.

So which perfect country are you from then? Americans aren't going overseas and effing up the tipping scene in other countries. Those places you mentioned did that all on their own.

[SubCmdr]

You're not in Kansas anymore.

Exactly how would you know? Have you ever been to Kansas?

What great country do you hail from?