Pattaya Reports

[EverythingThai]

I walked over 25 k steps, so yes I put in the work. My friend, Pattaya is a shadow of what it was 20 years ago when it comes to p4 p. Soi 6 was one of my favorite places on the planet before the nightwish group bought all the bars and turned them from closed quiet brothels to loud open beer bars. You could basically hear a pin drop when you walk down the street 15 years ago. It was fantastic. Now it's simply loud and obnoxious. And as I said in my report sitting and buying drinks was completely optional back then. You could just point at the gal you wanted and head upstairs.

If you read my report you will find that I checked the G clubs and the massage parlors along Soi Honey and other places. LK Metro's talent was sorely lacking. And no, stunners were exactly the same price as all the other gals were back in the day.

I do plenty of online in BKK, but Fiwfans not TF. The locals' pond is overall much more desirable to fish in.

Aside from the preponderance of good inexpensive Western food, which is great, Patters doesn't really offer much for me. My favorite time to go back in the day was low season, and as I said you could shoot a cannon down most of the Sois and not hit anybody. But there was plenty of talent and most of the dudes down there during that time were not tourists, but locals, and the gals knew that and treated us as such. Even then I avoided the place December through Chinese New Year.
I see more good looking girls on the BTS in 15 min everyday and walking around the neighborhood I live in than I did in the entertainment areas in Patters.
And also, I find all the aging dudes who seem to live for the next beer hanging about in their shorts and tank tops to be incredibly depressing.

These days I'll take Bangkok any day.

Hey Goats. You make a lot of good points about Pattaya. Let me tell you how I see it. Pattaya is a huge playground for adults. It's like a huge nana or a huge soi cowboy. Therefore, the 7-10's will be spread out all over the place. The gents clubs will have one or two at each. Then there is soi 6. Each bar will have a few but there are just so many bars. Yes they have a lot of pressure to buy drinks and I get that, but about talent, it's is clearly there. Have prices gone up, yes. Times are changing. Then there is walking street. The good go go bars will have groups of stunners, but you will need to spend big. Then there is TF. This is the best way for you in my opinion to find stunners in Pattaya. The prices will be reasonable and drinks are completely out of the equation. My opinion on pats is there is more variety and P4 P is easier to find, cheaper and the action can be dirty as fuck. This means it's easier to get BBFS, easier to find a threesome and easier to walk into a club like Maggie Mays and get in bar action. Am awesome place to visit but not my cup of tea to stay full time. I have been there and done that and now I am 70% in BKK and 30% in Patts.

Now about Bangkok. My favorite part of BKK is the local scene as you put it. Fiw Fans, and T-Ded 99 offer access to in my opinion, a better quality of lady for the same price or less than a ST with a girl in Pattaya from TF. I like white skin so BKK suits me better. Then going to the clubs in BKK or massage or a gents club you will find the girls are just classier. They dress to the 9's and you need to up your game as well. Meaning more money as well. Try going into Levels in flip flops or into a roof top bar in your cargo shorts. Even the girls in Thermae and the soapie massage shops are better looking and classier. In BKK I find myself staying more and more away from the tourist haunts and more and more in the local haunts. If I ever want to go into a go go bar, I normally choose crazy house on the edge of Soi Cowboy on soi 23. Always stunners and they are completely nude on stage. TF in Bangkok was awesome before and during Covid, these days it has just gone down hill in BKK. Over all BKK for a tourist will be more expensive, but for an expat comfortable in the local haunts, you will have a blast.

This is my 2 cents Goats. Pattaya is a great place to visit, but the hunt is becoming less and less attractive to me. Now I have my spots like Maggie Mays, club fate, XS and Pin Up just to name a few. That's all I need. I'm not one to try new places in Patts anymore. Heaven Above is on my to do list though. About TF in Patts, it's just too easy. Log in, choose a girl, invite her over and that's it. BKK is too much headache.

My final thoughts, in the words of Tony Soprano, remember when is the lowest form of conversation. This meaning I dont dwell on the past and what once was. I just adapt if I want to continue to play in the normal farang pool and choose the places where I best fit in. Then I do the same as you and visit the local haunts to experience something much better in my opinion and different. Thanks for your recent posts on Pattaya. They offer a unique perspective from some that can compare the way it once was and what it is now. Do I like the new Patts or the old Patts? For me thats a hard question to answer. I guess it depends on the type of venue I am in. Cheers Mate.

[Goatscrot]

All of you complaining about quality in Pattaya, did you ask yourself?

Did I put work into it?

Soi 6 has 100 bars, I found several stunners, yes I pay high for better quality and what I like.

Soi Bukhao had more then 1000 bars, have you looked?

I seen stunners, but you got to walk, you can't just sit in hotel and assume quality is bad.

Yes prices have went up but 8+ stunners were charge more way back then too.

Did you also check out Thai friendly and Massage palors? I don't think so.

I prefer Pattaya any day. There is famous saying " Pattaya has something for everybody ".

You just need to look a little.

I walked over 25 k steps, so yes I put in the work. My friend, Pattaya is a shadow of what it was 20 years ago when it comes to p4 p. Soi 6 was one of my favorite places on the planet before the nightwish group bought all the bars and turned them from closed quiet brothels to loud open beer bars. You could basically hear a pin drop when you walk down the street 15 years ago. It was fantastic. Now it's simply loud and obnoxious. And as I said in my report sitting and buying drinks was completely optional back then. You could just point at the gal you wanted and head upstairs.

If you read my report you will find that I checked the G clubs and the massage parlors along Soi Honey and other places. LK Metro's talent was sorely lacking. And no, stunners were exactly the same price as all the other gals were back in the day.

I do plenty of online in BKK, but Fiwfans not TF. The locals' pond is overall much more desirable to fish in.

Aside from the preponderance of good inexpensive Western food, which is great, Patters doesn't really offer much for me. My favorite time to go back in the day was low season, and as I said you could shoot a cannon down most of the Sois and not hit anybody. But there was plenty of talent and most of the dudes down there during that time were not tourists, but locals, and the gals knew that and treated us as such. Even then I avoided the place December through Chinese New Year.
I see more good looking girls on the BTS in 15 min everyday and walking around the neighborhood I live in than I did in the entertainment areas in Patters.
And also, I find all the aging dudes who seem to live for the next beer hanging about in their shorts and tank tops to be incredibly depressing.

These days I'll take Bangkok any day.

[Mr Enternational]

It seems you missed the Tomboys who look exactly like men.

Maybe that is because I know a man from a woman. Just like guys that come on this site saying they did not know the chick was a dude, but from the picture it is pretty obvious (to me anyway).

[Intrepid123]

All of you complaining about quality in Pattaya, did you ask yourself?

Did I put work into it?

Soi 6 has 100 bars, I found several stunners, yes I pay high for better quality and what I like.

Soi Bukhao had more then 1000 bars, have you looked?

I seen stunners, but you got to walk, you can't just sit in hotel and assume quality is bad.

Yes prices have went up but 8+ stunners were charge more way back then too.

Did you also check out Thai friendly and Massage palors? I don't think so.

I prefer Pattaya any day. There is famous saying " Pattaya has something for everybody ".

You just need to look a little.

Exactly. Pattaya's lineup has never had more stunners. But when you look through grumpy glasses all you see are the fat / ugly ones. There are hidden gems (some no so hidden) everywhere if you look properly.

[Explorer8939]

LOL. None of them look like men! They look like women that are trying to look like men.

It seems you missed the Tomboys who look exactly like men.

[MohdirFan82]

All of you complaining about quality in Pattaya, did you ask yourself?

Did I put work into it?

Soi 6 has 100 bars, I found several stunners, yes I pay high for better quality and what I like.

Soi Bukhao had more then 1000 bars, have you looked?

I seen stunners, but you got to walk, you can't just sit in hotel and assume quality is bad.

Yes prices have went up but 8+ stunners were charge more way back then too.

Did you also check out Thai friendly and Massage palors? I don't think so.

I prefer Pattaya any day. There is famous saying " Pattaya has something for everybody ".

You just need to look a little.

Many thanks for the info. I'll have to have a look. Honestly, I didn't notice much else in Pattaya then fairly unattractive locals, however I did see a few Russian lookers, but they were with their Russian dudes.

[Goatscrot]

Usually fine, and some are reasonably good (BBBJ, DFK, DATY, 69, many positions). Notably better than Viets in Malaysia or Singapore, but don't expect Tulip level PSE or old-style Thai GFE.

Unlike Thais, Viets are a bit more concerned about how long a session takes. They're on Soi 4 to hustle from 8 pm to 4 am each night, on a limited duration visa, so every hour counts. Thais, on the other hand, are more chill, just live here and try to make it through another day.

As for the going rate, they'll all quote 2000 baht if you ask, but most would go for 1000 or 1200 if you offer. Max I paid was 1500. There seems to be an agreement among the girls to quote 2000, more than one Viet would go with me for 1000, but specifically asked me not to tell other girls she did.

(sorry for posting on Pattaya section, this is in Bangkok. But this is where you asked).

As an aside, are there any Viets in Pattaya?

Many thanks for the info. I'll have to have a look. Honestly, I didn't notice much else in Pattaya then fairly unattractive locals, however I did see a few Russian lookers, but they were with their Russian dudes.

[Crocodilexp]

The Viets on 4 providing good service? What's the going rate?

Usually fine, and some are reasonably good (BBBJ, DFK, DATY, 69, many positions). Notably better than Viets in Malaysia or Singapore, but don't expect Tulip level PSE or old-style Thai GFE.

Unlike Thais, Viets are a bit more concerned about how long a session takes. They're on Soi 4 to hustle from 8 pm to 4 am each night, on a limited duration visa, so every hour counts. Thais, on the other hand, are more chill, just live here and try to make it through another day.

As for the going rate, they'll all quote 2000 baht if you ask, but most would go for 1000 or 1200 if you offer. Max I paid was 1500. There seems to be an agreement among the girls to quote 2000, more than one Viet would go with me for 1000, but specifically asked me not to tell other girls she did.

(sorry for posting on Pattaya section, this is in Bangkok. But this is where you asked).

As an aside, are there any Viets in Pattaya?

[Goatscrot]

Thats all I need to read in order to convince myself not to go over there. I have enough trouble in Bangkok to find my type and fat and old isn't it.

Glad to be of service. Sure there are some thin ones, but I certainly didn't see many. The ones I observed haven't missed a meal in a long time and are maybe eating a few extra.

[Goatscrot]

Love your reports, Goat. We seem to have a similar outlook on the Thailand scene. You saved me 2 days of hassle, I better stay in Bangkok. Soi 4 is not too bad with all the cheap and quick Vietnamese these days.

Many thanks. Just reporting my experience, I'm sure others find treasure there. But it's not for me. Think you are doing the right thing staying in BKK. The Viets on 4 providing good service? What's the going rate?

BTW, oilies are quite good these days. The old favorites have some talent. FYI, seems 24/1 is nearing end of days.

[Mr Enternational]

Tomboys are very common in Pattaya. A lot look exactly like men, you may not have noticed them. Some look like Kim Un Jung, but ladies like them.

LOL. None of them look like men! They look like women that are trying to look like men.

[Crocodilexp]

I was finally obligated to make a trip down to Pattaya, after not being there since before covid.

So it was back to my hotel for a rather nice sleep during the cool night and a fairly early rise to grab a nice breakfast before catching the bus back to BKK, less than 24 hours after I arrived in Pattaya, probably not to return for quite a long time. Seeing the old alcoholics drinking beer in the bars open in the early morning on the way to the bus station was just the icing on the cake.

Love your reports, Goat. We seem to have a similar outlook on the Thailand scene. You saved me 2 days of hassle, I better stay in Bangkok. Soi 4 is not too bad with all the cheap and quick Vietnamese these days.

[Ass Addict]

Don't underestimate that it is pretty much dark inside the club. LOL.

Picture from inside the club. You're the judge.

[Nyezhov]

I was finally obligated to make a trip down to Pattaya, after not being there since before covid.

A bit of history with me and the place. In the early 00's I used to go on average once a month for 3 nights. It was especially amazing during low season. You could shoot a cannon down most toys and not hit anybody, but there will always plenty of girls, and may I add plenty of good looking ones. Soi 6 was an outstanding place for early afternoon and evening entertainment. None of the bars were open air to the street and there was no blaring music. It was simply small bars, or rather full on knocking shops, full of gals who were more than willing to take you to the room for 500 to 1 k Baht with a 200 to 300 Baht BF that included the room. Drinks or of course available but you are in no way obligated to buy lady drinks, in fact you could just choose whatever caught your eye and head straight upstairs.

This city itself was so empty during low season that the two-story Starbucks, the third shop opened in the country, would often have only our small group of friends upstairs drinking coffee all afternoon.

The bars themselves were also fun, both beer bars and Go-Go's. All of the above had plenty of good looking thin early 20's gals who hadn't yet had babies. ST and LT at beer bars was 500 and 1 k respectively and at Go-Go's 1 K and 5 K respectively. In the Go-Go's girls were fun, playfully aggressive, and a lot of fun.

And then there was Marine disco that kicked off in earnest after the bars would close. No problem with 1 K long time.

If you were strolling down Walking Street at any time after say 10:00 you would have a constant barrage of girls asking to go with you. This increased after midnight when Soi 6 closed and those girls headed for the disco.

Patters was absolutely amazing during these times and I have some of my best memories of our hobby from that time.

From around 07 till the mid 10's I think I only visited once or twice, not enough to make any judgments and then between 16 and covid I would go occasionally when friends were in town. During that time I found a very changed town and scene. Soi 6 became a loud zoo of open air bars. While it was still some quite good looking girls, I found the atmosphere to be far less appealing, and of course the prices had increased and one was expected to buy drinks and sit about with the girl as opposed to getting right down to business.

Go-Go's had changed significantly both price wise, demographic of customer-wise, and atmosphere-wise. Go-Go's that catered to Asian customers had very good looking girls that weren't particularly interested in westerners and were far less interactive than the days of old. Prices also increased dramatically, even on Soi 6 where gals seem to also to prefer Asian customers. During this time I found the G clubs, namely Kinnaree, to be very enjoyable. Always some lookers, very well priced, and fun. I often wished we had places like that in Bangkok. I also found some talented times amongst the small massage joints on Soi Honey. One really good thing about this particular era is it seems many of the gals discovered going to the gym. So there were plenty of fit women about.

Unfortunately I never made it down to Pattaya during Covid, which it seems as it was in Bangkok an absolutely marvelous time for our hobby.

Fast forward to this past weekend and I agreed to meet a group of friends that I haven't seen in over a decade down at the beach. Some were in town for the first time in ages and they decided that is where they wanted to meet up. After seeing recent videos from Pattaya my expectations were low, and my expectations did not let me down.

Arriving early on a Saturday afternoon I had a very nice three course lunch special that even included a glass of wine. Aside from seeing my friends, this was the highlight of the trip. I was also astounded at the insane number of people in Pattaya.

After checking into my hotel I decided to have a bit of a walkabout and check out the central Pattaya G clubs. Strolling down Soi Honey, I was immediately struck by the size and age of the majority of the women working. Both of those numbers needed to go in a southerly direction in order to be appealing. The G clubs I poked my head in were equally as disappointing, so I ventured back to the hotel for a rest.

Dinner with my friends was fantastic. It was wonderful to have a catch up. Afterwards we hit some of the bars on LK Metro. I was again absolutely gobsmacked at the lack of talent. Fat, old, dark, and ugly for the most part, and I was told these were the "best" Go-Go's. I saw maybe one or two that would pass muster, but not for what they were asking. After 3 or so bars I had seen enough and I broke off on my own to have another look at the G clubs that opened later. I was again taken aback at the lack of talent. Age and weight were definitely on display and it seems that the majority of gals working in Pattaya had forgotten where the gym was but haven't missed a meal and if perhaps added a few more meals during the day.

With my libido on the floor I decided to have a look and Beach Road. I wish I hadn't. Appalling is too nice of a word for more than one reason.

Although the talent isn't what it used to be in Bangkok, Fiwfans and the oilies have far better looking girls than what I saw in Pattaya this past weekend and I don't have to deal with the crowds of tourists. I'm also pretty assured of a certain level of performance. In all fairness, I didn't try TF down there, so maybe it is better.

So it was back to my hotel for a rather nice sleep during the cool night and a fairly early rise to grab a nice breakfast before catching the bus back to BKK, less than 24 hours after I arrived in Pattaya, probably not to return for quite a long time. Seeing the old alcoholics drinking beer in the bars open in the early morning on the way to the bus station was just the icing on the cake.

Thats all I need to read in order to convince myself not to go over there. I have enough trouble in Bangkok to find my type and fat and old isn't it.

[Explorer8939]

What do you mean by a tomboy. A lesbian who looks and dresses like a guy? I can say I haven't. I don't find them sexy. TBH I would rather have a ladyboy. It least they can look sexy and they enjoy fucking guys.

Tomboys are very common in Pattaya. A lot look exactly like men, you may not have noticed them. Some look like Kim Un Jung, but ladies like them.

Many Tomboys in Pattaya are supported by bar girls, same as young Thai men. And there are Tomboy bars, usually open after midnight.

I was just curious as to whether anyone had gone with one.