Bangkok Reports

[EverythingThai]

Hi,

I just created a Thaifriendly account for the first time and Goddamn, so many bangers. , couple of questions:

1/ is it worthy to upgrade to premium for better results?? Or standard just fine?

2/ Should I wait to be in Thailand / philippines to use it better or should I play the long game of reaching out the girls weeks before departure. ??

3/ some profiles have litteraly no headlines / description, is it a sign to spot a freelancer?? (not that is a problem, I'm actually looking for hoes).

4/ should I be direct about what I'm looking for?? (which is sex, thus open to pay, I'ts about fucking as much as different girls as I can, not so much into that whole 'be my beyonce, I'll be your Jay -Z' type of stuff.).

5/ should I expect a lot of flakes from that app??

6/ how much should I expect to pay TF girls in comparison with the street / bar girls??

7/ All hotels in the Twister / thermae area are girl friendly, no matter how many you bring to your room? (3 some max).

Thanks.

Scroll down and ask that in the Thai Friendly thread, not in the Bangkok section. All your questions were answered there already. Or if you dont know how to scroll down, copy and paste this link into your browser : http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4407-Thai-Friendly

[CCRider1008]

I visited Thailand on and off over the last 15 years. This particular trip is a longer one where I am testing the waters on a possible semi retirement here. Over the last eight weeks, I became a little disillusioned as I've experienced some price gouging, some mishaps in hotels as well as the recent spike in air pollution. But as I reflect back on my Monday night, I'm reminded for why Bangkok is heaven on earth.

Yeah they will love you until you run out of money. But beats retiring in some boring place with old hags running around. Enjoy it.

[CCRider1008]

Hi,

I just created a Thaifriendly account for the first time and Goddamn, so many bangers. , couple of questions:

1/ is it worthy to upgrade to premium for better results?? Or standard just fine?

2/ Should I wait to be in Thailand / philippines to use it better or should I play the long game of reaching out the girls weeks before departure. ??

3/ some profiles have litteraly no headlines / description, is it a sign to spot a freelancer?? (not that is a problem, I'm actually looking for hoes).

4/ should I be direct about what I'm looking for?? (which is sex, thus open to pay, I'ts about fucking as much as different girls as I can, not so much into that whole 'be my beyonce, I'll be your Jay -Z' type of stuff.)..

I've used a lot.

1. Yes to upgrade.

2. Depends on how long in Thailand. If a week or two I start a week before I leave. Too early is a waste of time.

PHI you might want to also use DIA. I got more results from that than Pinaylove.

3/4. Sites like TF and PL have a lot of girls looking for boyfriends. So if using for FLs and sex you need to weed these girls out quickly. I usually say in my profile something like "American businessman traveling holiday to. Looking for pretty fun companions while in town". You don't want to be rude and gruff about it but also don; t want to write description like you're looking for love either. Once you message a few times get quickly onto WHATS APP or LINE. There you want to get more specific about what you're looking for.

5. Fucking a ton of flakes online. My first 2 trips to Thailand I spent way to much effort online game. I'd plan to mix online and p4 p in beer bars or gogos so you have enjoyable time.

6. Pretty much same. They all can be talked down in my experience.

7. I only stay at JW and Sheraton Grande. They don't give a shit about girls. And quite frankly I don't give a shit about any looks I get bringing them into the hotel. No one has ever said boo to me.

[BlackPantherXX]

Hi,

I just created a Thaifriendly account for the first time and Goddamn, so many bangers. , couple of questions:

1/ is it worthy to upgrade to premium for better results?? Or standard just fine?

2/ Should I wait to be in Thailand / philippines to use it better or should I play the long game of reaching out the girls weeks before departure. ??

3/ some profiles have litteraly no headlines / description, is it a sign to spot a freelancer?? (not that is a problem, I'm actually looking for hoes).

4/ should I be direct about what I'm looking for?? (which is sex, thus open to pay, I'ts about fucking as much as different girls as I can, not so much into that whole 'be my beyonce, I'll be your Jay -Z' type of stuff.).

5/ should I expect a lot of flakes from that app??

6/ how much should I expect to pay TF girls in comparison with the street / bar girls??

7/ All hotels in the Twister / thermae area are girl friendly, no matter how many you bring to your room? (3 some max).

Thanks.

[UglyAzzMan]

The Exodus away from NanaPlaza for Chinese new year is real.

Rani 4 and 5 are devoid of Hot Girls.

[FriendlyGuyHi]

I visited Thailand on and off over the last 15 years. This particular trip is a longer one where I am testing the waters on a possible semi retirement here. Over the last eight weeks, I became a little disillusioned as I've experienced some price gouging, some mishaps in hotels as well as the recent spike in air pollution. But as I reflect back on my Monday night, I'm reminded for why Bangkok is heaven on earth.

Recently moved into a condo in the Phrom Phong area. The building has great amenities and I'm within spitting distance of EmSphere, EmQuartier, etc. Bangkok has always been a city where you can get what you want with an arms reach, but having one's own place in a shopping and dining hub definitely improves things. Last night, I fancied something a bit more local so I went to the local restaurant downstairs and had a hot piping bowl of noodles. After devouring that plate, I took a 10 minute walk around the neighborhood and settled in for a 90 minute oil massage. She nearly broke me, but I felt rejuvenated. I decided to walk down to Soi Cowboy And try out some new bars that I don't normally frequent. Susie Wong was my first visit. It was dark inside, and the talent was slightly above average. But they didn't hustle for drinks, and the intimate show was appealing. I Motion to one of the girls to come sit next to me. She was about 5'3", Spinner type body, but with larger natural see cup breasts. After some chitchat, she jumped on top of my lap and proceeded to grind me for the next 10 minutes, whilst taking my hands and making sure that I massaged her tits. She playfully reached down and slid her hands up my shorts and pulled me out under the counter. She adjusted herself so that she was sandwiching my cock between her ass cheeks and proceeded to grind harder. She asked me to take her home, but I wanted to explore a bit more. She gave me her LINE ID and I received no fewer than 10 messages from her since last night. Adorable 22 year-old from Isaan.

I then proceeded to Long Gun. I had walked by this place on numerous occasions, but I always assumed that it was a rip off joint. But I could not walk past the sultry full chested beauty that was tempting me inside. We entered and sat in the front row next to the stage. This bar is famous for its live shows that it run runs three times a night. You want it they've got it. Ping-pong, balls, blowing out candles, opening beer bottles, blowing darts to balloons, etc. And the whistles. Dear God, those whistles. It was like a symphony. Into the uninitiated, it may seem crass. But the crowd was loving it, and you couldn't help but get caught up in the excitement. Meanwhile, this beauty beside me kept complaining that the air conditioning was too high and showing me the effect it was having on her nipples. She kept cuddling up for warmth and telling me how much more comfortable she was since switching from silicone to saline implants. Who was I to argue? We went through the typical, hey will you buy my friend some drinks? But soon enough, I was surrounded by three women with different distinct body types and hands and lips are being exchanged. The tits and ass on this beauty were very hard to resist. But we exchanged line and agreed to meet up in two days for dinner and drinks and more fun. Off to the last place.

Crazy house was still rocking at 2 AM. My regular waitress sat me down and brought me my regular drink. Within seconds, I spotted a girl with milky white skin and the softest breast I've seen in a while. These were getting into the the / F category, but still somehow pert. Ass like a marshmallow. And to top it off a bubbly, vivacious, can do attitude. When we got home, the highlights included shower, HJ, BJ, DT, 69, multiple positions, and mind blowing rimming. And somehow the session ended with her thanking me profusely.

This was a Monday night.

Shame on me for ever doubting Bangkok.

To think that this evening started with a bowl of soup.

F*ck me.

[EihTooms]

Ugh, what a nightmare. Sounds like Sunny was scamming from the start, so good you managed to maintain self-control enough to get out of it without anything worse happening.

I remember a long time ago (15-20 years?) Patong had a bad reputation for scams (similar to the arab's bar on Soi Cowboy), but last few years seen several good reports from there. Obviously this "Virgin" go-go is a place to stay away from.

My first visits to Patpong decades ago was when many of us experienced the dangerous upstairs ping-pong ball show scams. Thugs handing us drink bills 10 times the actual amount and not budging from blocking the doorways until we paid up. But I still managed to get past them without paying more than what was fair and spelled out on the menu.

I had some very good and easy upfront negotiated agreements for BBFSCIP with a few sexy Patpong gogo bargirls in the more recent past. Just pre-Covid. But my 2-3 attempts the other night did not show much promise for more post-Covid Patpong experiences.

[EihTooms]

I guess this should have been your first clue that everything that follows would be just the next step in the scam. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. I didn't count up, but it sounds like the lesson was expensive. I've only been to Patong a couple of times, but each time I was either scammed or felt a scam coming.

Reminds me of November when I had a terrible massage, but while sitting outside putting my shoes on the mamasan introduced me to a new girl. She recommended LT at my hotel where the new girl would do Real Sex, per EihTooms definition. Price only 2000 for girl plus 300 to shop. I declined and price went down to 200 to shop plus 1000 girl. All along the new girl had been cuddling and caressing me. I was horny, the girl was young, perhaps 22, but not hot. I declined and found another partner elsewhere.

The next day I came back for a 300 baht oil massage with new girl, which was crap. The new girl wanted a lot of money for extras and she clearly didn't have the attitude to make me happy, so I declined again. I can only imagine how bad her all night services would have been for 1000 baht.

Sorry you had to learn that way, it happens to most punters from time to time. Thanks for the report.

Well, I can attest to the fact that at least in my experience an "Of course, of course, I understand. Can do that with ladies here! Which one you like" response from a mamasan or papasan with whom the LD / tip for valuable intel exchange relationship has been established does not necessarily lead to a scam but rather to a pretty darn good result.

I just wouldn't take it to mean "all" of the girls in a bar will do BBFSCIP with me. That would absolutely be too good to be true coming from anyone managing girls in a bar just as it is reading anything of the kind from punters here regarding the girls in Pattaya or wherever. But this papasan didn't make that particular outlandish claim. And that is why I had the full conversation about it myself with the one candidate I interviewed. And when all the boxes are checked with the girl at that point too, one can not just assume it will all be a scam from that point forward.

At that point I am willing to go forward and give them room to show me and it is rare for that much pre-barfine negotiation agreement to go as sour as this one did. Not sure how much of a lesson to take from it. I mean, I certainly wouldn't now automatically assume every gogo girl who says Yes upfront with a smile to the 3 items on my check box list is probably going to scam me and it's time to move on is the proper lesson to learn from this experience, not to mention with full backing from the mamasan / papasan.

Yes, the entire Patpong bullshit and no Real Sex expedition that night cost me about 6,000 baht I think, with roughly 4,500 of it going to Virgin for drinks, barfine and the 700 baht I gave her for being naked and giving me 1 minute of lousy BBBJ foreplay. But it did buy drinks, chat, mild groping and lap dance type junk in several gogo and beer bars, a couple of stops I made and only bought myself a drink that I didn't bother to mention in that FR. And at least I salvaged 2,800 baht by not paying the scammer the full 3,500 agreed to "if" she had not been scamming me.

That is not so terrible in order to find out what is and isn't worth it in a Bangkok red light district. Particularly when getting Real Sex on any one night or place is not too critically important anyway but getting valuable intel about it is. I never would have learned anything about the place in terms of Real results unless I took the best offer and situation of the night to the limit to really find out.

[Werqweq]

So I am on my way back to my motor scooter parked at Foodland on Patpong 1 and I see a gogo bar with a new name; Virgin. New to me anyway.

Sunny, the papasan, rushes out the door to meet and introduce himself to me. Points to all the girls on the stage, many look good, and assures me he will help me find what I want. Really? Hey, I am open to establishing such a relationship with a gogo bar papasan or mamasan since doing so has worked out very well for me in my experience.

So I follow him back into the bar. We sit and chat about what I want and does he have a girl who will accommodate. I tell him exactly what I want. See above for my definition of Real Sex. He nods and smiles, "Of course, of course, I understand. Can do that with ladies here! Which one you like"?

One very sexy young slim but curvy girl, a real female for sure, suddenly arrives on the stage. Sunny points to her and asks if I like her. I do. He points and calls her down. Even though she had been staring at me / us from the stage while she moved erotically on stage, his pointing to her to come join me seemed to take her by pleasant surprise.

In the booth all went as typically loving, stroking, affectionate and chemistry-building as I had by now grown to appreciate as the Patpong style. And the Kid was into as well.

Again, after a couple of LDs for my girl and Sunny the papasan who now knows that if all goes well with this lady according to what I want and for what he clearly understands that I want then I will return many, many, many times and bring like-minded friends with me as well, I still need to make sure May-nay or whatever her name sounded like in a loud bar is on the exact same page as I am about it.


And put it on my Google Translate. She read it then sullenly put her phone down and asked if we were going to use a condom. I said that was not the agreement.

I say No. She says No. Now I am opening the door anyway while she is grabbing my wrist and not letting go. I still walk down the hall with her hanging onto my wrist, dragging along, yelling "No"!

I tell the ladies running the desk to call the police or Sunny to tell them this lady is getting violent, which by then she was, tightening her grip on my arm, shouting "NO"! Louder and louder.

Then I manage to break her grip without causing her any pain, which was my concern, walk away, head downstairs to the bar, make a beeline for Sunny and tell him about the bullshit she pulled in the room, that I will probably never return, have a lovely night and bye.

He didn't seem particularly shocked or surprised but did say "Sorry, sometimes crazy lady. " Yes, I know.

Ugh, what a nightmare. Sounds like Sunny was scamming from the start, so good you managed to maintain self-control enough to get out of it without anything worse happening.

I remember a long time ago (15-20 years?) Patong had a bad reputation for scams (similar to the arab's bar on Soi Cowboy), but last few years seen several good reports from there. Obviously this "Virgin" go-go is a place to stay away from.

[Larbmoo555]

You my man have just proved that you're not located inside Thailand. The website, as there is no app, is not down, but it is blocked in Thailand just like all the other sideline websites, except for the one that I posted below, so for any user that would like to access this website while they're in Thailand they need to use a VPN but the court will will shut it all down soon unless it is hosted by a foreign company.

EverythingThai I am a long-time reader but first-time poster here. I would message you but haven't quite worked out how to buy bitcoin. I saw your posts about T-ded. I have been living in Bangkok for the past 6-7 years, and going to T-ded once or twice / month for the past 2 of those. Young chubby farang guy with blonde hair, I stick out like a sore thumb in t-ded. I am usually there solo or with Thai guy friends. My gut feeling is we've probably seen each other, but in any case, if you (or anyone else here) see me please stop by and say Hi, even if I have my hand up my some girl's skirt (I am always in the lounge area rather than the KTV rooms). I speak Thai and am always looking for more expat or Thai friends to go to these types of places with.

As for a contribution from me, you (and anyone else here) should also check out Zeed Club Sutthisan, which is a few doors down from t-ded. I know their reviews suck on gmaps but it's actually a nice place, the service there is far better than t-ded from both the staff & girls but the main issue is the girls aren't as numerous or as pretty imo. Lots of girls from Laos. ST there was likewise 2500 all-in but they don't have their own hotel like T-ded does. RCA2 just opened up between Zeed & T-ded, another Thai go-go that shut down long ago but is now back. I will be checking it out soon but my feeling is it's the same deal as Zeed Club. I don't know whether any of these girls or even the mama-sans / papa-sans speak English but my guess would be no. Rainbow Club up the street also has girls that will ST but you need to make it clear to the mama-san that's what you want beforehand, because most there will not go ST (and realistically you should speak some Thai). Rainbow Club is more focused on drinking / eating with friends rather than p4 p.

[HorseTrader]

One thing I'm not clear on is how to tell if a beer bar bar fines the girls or are they freelancers? I'm probably missing something obvious like, "just ask the bartender, fucknuts" but I figured somebody might have a quick answer here.

I just ask the girl before I ever buy her a drink. Don't forget that some are there just for drinks.

[Larbmoo555]

Ah, perhaps that is the most "loving, sexy and chemistry-building" result of the Patpong gogo and beer bar approach to customer relations. LOL.

As always, YMMV.

In Patpong I got BBFS from a young girl in Pink Panther, she wanted +1000 for it. But generally I don't ask for BBFS the first time, and I don't do CIP (have not yet had my vasectomy). It just scares away too many of the girls, particularly the more beautiful / younger ones. I'll wait until meeting the 2nd or 3rd time then bring it up (I live here so have time to play the long game). At that point the girls already feel comfortable with me.

One time at Thermae I asked a girl "blowjob no condom, ok?" And she said +1000. I was like ummm what? +1000 for BBBJ? And she replied "oh, I thought you meant sex no condom". I said no that's not what I meant, but I'll take it!

[HorseTrader]

So I follow him back into the bar. We sit and chat about what I want and does he have a girl who will accommodate. I tell him exactly what I want. See above for my definition of Real Sex. He nods and smiles, "Of course, of course, I understand. Can do that with ladies here! Which one you like"?

I guess this should have been your first clue that everything that follows would be just the next step in the scam. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. I didn't count up, but it sounds like the lesson was expensive. I've only been to Patong a couple of times, but each time I was either scammed or felt a scam coming.

Reminds me of November when I had a terrible massage, but while sitting outside putting my shoes on the mamasan introduced me to a new girl. She recommended LT at my hotel where the new girl would do Real Sex, per EihTooms definition. Price only 2000 for girl plus 300 to shop. I declined and price went down to 200 to shop plus 1000 girl. All along the new girl had been cuddling and caressing me. I was horny, the girl was young, perhaps 22, but not hot. I declined and found another partner elsewhere.

The next day I came back for a 300 baht oil massage with new girl, which was crap. The new girl wanted a lot of money for extras and she clearly didn't have the attitude to make me happy, so I declined again. I can only imagine how bad her all night services would have been for 1000 baht.

Sorry you had to learn that way, it happens to most punters from time to time. Thanks for the report.

[ZenosArrow11]

First, thanks to all for the great advice. Arrived BKK last night / this morning at 2 am. I was near brain-dead with fatigue after 25 hours of flights, but fuck that, I'm in Bangkok! I l walked around the neighborhood, found a pretty cute freelancer among many lady boys and -say-no girls even at that time of night. Back to my hotel for 2000 short time, not really GFE but still had a good time. Slept like a dead thing until 330 this afternoon!

One thing I'm not clear on is how to tell if a beer bar bar fines the girls or are they freelancers? I'm probably missing something obvious like, "just ask the bartender, fucknuts" but I figured somebody might have a quick answer here.

[CCRider1008]

Soi 4 had about 30 street girls of all sizes and colors, some very hot. Half a dozen Viet girls work early morning, loud and profane like sailors.

I found a beautiful blonde Kazach spinner, light skin, looked Euro, offered her 1,000 and agreed on 1500. She was a real blonde 24 pretty like a movie star, nice, gentle personality, walked half a mile hand in hand with to the hotel like a GF. Looked like an old chunky mamasan was supervising that group of girl..

First, I cannot tell difference between Thai and Vietnamese in terms of looks and since I don't speak language I wouldn't know what nationality they were.

Two years ago there was absolutely 0 Russian or white women hooking on the street in Soi 4. Nothing but Thai and occasional African. They were all huddled directly outside nana sitting on motorbikes etc. I walked occasionally down soi 4 but not too far past main beer bars. So where on soi 4 did you find this mix?