American Politics

[Elvis 2008]

E85, a blend of 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline, IS NOT considered 0% emissions during technical control or emissions testing.

I cannot believe you guys are still arguing about that.

FACT #2: Several of the latest studies on EVs/batteries, like the one out of Stanford Univ, says EVs last longer than ICE vehicles. Feb 05, 2025 Researchers in the U.K. looked at the life cycles of almost 30 million cars and found that electric and gasoline vehicles last for roughly the same.

Yeah, well given that most popular make of electric cars in China now have their own ICE, I am not sure how much that matters. PHEVs are actually more likely to break down than EVs or ICEs.

https://autovista24.autovistagroup.c...china-in-june/

Under current conditions, driving an electric car is better for the climate than conventional petrol cars in 95% of the world, the study finds at Cambridge Univ. once again batteries are saving the world.

Yeah, you are refusing to look at reality there. https://elements.visualcapitalist.co...l-consumption/.

Despite efforts to decarbonize the economy, global coal consumption surpassed 164 exajoules for the first time in 2023.

The hypocrisy of Democratic douches knows no bounds on carbon. Forest fires have destroyed the carbon savings in California, and Biden's idiotic attack on Nordstream was not exactly carbon friendly either. What has worked is changing from coal to natural gas.

One good thing about the Ukraine was is China built a NG pipeline from Siberia that goes to Shanghai. If India and China switch to NG pipelines over burning coal, you might see the unheard of like in the USA, carbon emissions going down.

And getting overall electrical use down is a pipe dream. That and clean water are the two most important things when it comes to lifting people out of poverty. The continued rise in electrical use and has led some idiots to suggest we need to cut the human race in half to save the planet. As Elon Musk said, anyone who thinks that is a great idea should start helping by taking their own life.

[Sirioja]

1. EV's are not zero emission!

2. The long term impact is determined by the quality of inputs into the grid the EV is charging on!

3. When people in the United States of America choose their vehicle the make the decision based on practical reasons!.

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/23/nx-s1...ent-skepticism

I am convinced that EVs help the environment But in the United Staes of America I am NOT interested in buying one. The analysis of my personal driving style shows EV's do not have enough range to head out over the road given the distances you need to cover in the United States of America. Besides I do not like being told what I have to buy when making the second biggest purchase most people make.

Say that you want to debate the FACTS OF EVs all you like. In the end it comes to one personal opinion and that decision IS made by me.

ROTFLMAO!

Yes, pollution for batteries and when You use to drive many kilometers in a row, You don t buy EV, because not fast enough and losing too much time to recharge, reason why I call not real cars to travel fast. Audi I rank higher than any USA or Chinese brand, even I found they were on higher quality and reliability on late 2000 , stop electric on some new models, like Q8 or A6 , for only thermic, when EVs just worth to go to buy bread in cities. With less money help from governments, EVs will fall.

[SubCmdr]

1. EV's are not zero emission!

2. The long term impact is determined by the quality of inputs into the grid the EV is charging on!

3. When people in the United States of America choose their vehicle the make the decision based on practical reasons!.

Meanwhile, issues aside from the environment namely cost and convenience are key to winning over any would-be EV buyer.

Elizabeth Krear of J.D. Power has been closely tracking why people who are thinking of buying an EV choose not to take the plunge. This pool includes plenty of people who are fully convinced of EVs' green virtues.

"Those top reasons for rejection consistently, month over month, all have to do with charging," she says. "Having the ability to charge in public, having enough stations readily available and visible, speed of charging."

And over time, these non-environmental factors will get only more important, many analysts say.

"That first wave of (EV) ownership, they did believe in those environmental benefits, and that was one thing that pushed them towards ownership," says Gordon, of Ipsos. "This next wave that's not what's going to push them to ownership. Instead, what's pushing them into ownership is going to be longer ranges, faster charging times, lower costs, better charging infrastructure."

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/23/nx-s1...ent-skepticism

I am convinced that EVs help the environment But in the United Staes of America I am NOT interested in buying one. The analysis of my personal driving style shows EV's do not have enough range to head out over the road given the distances you need to cover in the United States of America. Besides I do not like being told what I have to buy when making the second biggest purchase most people make.

Say that you want to debate the FACTS OF EVs all you like. In the end it comes to one personal opinion and that decision IS made by me.

ROTFLMAO!

[Sirioja]

Just the FACTS ma'am!

Who cares, REALLY...if you want to drive your Audi V8, till the wheels fall off? Good for you, have at it! (...kkkk!)

Dude, I get it, you don't have much love for EVs/batteries, but your opinion on these subjects, is just one (1) single data point. The worldwide global FACTS and DATA, w/r to EVs/Batteries, tells me a different story.

I'm interested in debating the FACTS and trends towards cleaner energy and automotive innovations, that are happening around the world and how they are changing eco-geo-socio-political norms.

FACT #1: E85, a blend of 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline, IS NOT considered 0% emissions during technical control or emissions testing.

E85 IS NOT emission-free, but typically has lower emissions compared to pure gasoline, depending on the vehicle and driving conditions. All European regulatory agencies (including France) and technical controls still account for these emissions when testing vehicles running on E85.

So much for your so called, "0% pollution on technical control", nonsense. (...kkkk!) Even France admits and says there is NO such thing as absolute zero 0% emissions when running E85.

FACT #2: Several of the latest studies on EVs/batteries, like the one out of Stanford Univ, says EVs last longer than ICE vehicles. Feb 05, 2025 Researchers in the U.K. looked at the life cycles of almost 30 million cars and found that electric and gasoline vehicles last for roughly the same. Under current conditions, driving an electric car is better for the climate than conventional petrol cars in 95% of the world, the study finds at Cambridge Univ.

FACT #3: In 2024, once again batteries are saving the world. The cumulative global battery energy storage systems (BESS) capacity reached an impressive 150 GW/363 GWh ... China and the USA together account for 70% of global BESS projects, on a power basis.

The ramped up addition of renewable clean energy and BESS around the world, are stabilizing and balancing electrical grids and reducing our dependency on things like coal powered pico-power plants and fossil fuel derived fuel sources.

Once you take a good look at the FACTS, they often paint a very different picture than what you or I may think or "feel"!

0% CO2 controlled on pollution control. Don t batteries production and when they are not working anymore pollute? When a bit funny, not for our planet, but very lying China and USA are 2 biggest for pollution in our world and Trump will increase USA pollution. About figures and mass, I remember how so many Germans followed hysteric nazi Hitler, when they were told he was right, but was he really? Same now with Russians blind with Putin, when I m not a sheep. Funny, sometimes E85 smell like flowers or in a farm, when I doubt for batteries production and also keeping a real quality car for many years, I aim 1 million kilometers for engine and manual gearbox, not possible with automatic, make less pollution for our planet than often changing when You are bored of low quality, You can ask any specialist on pollution. I laugh about 10 years chinese guaranty which would mean around 800000 kms for a driver like me, then I would have to recharge every 50 kms and not even sure on motorway and even when new, but so slow on german autobahns, my playfield to aim 300 km / h. With which EV? And for how many kilometers? 20 ? Not much longer. Maybe working longer at slow 60 miles or on Hollywood boulevard in USA, when great Italy and NL increase speed on motorways and some free speed in Germany.

[Spidy]

... when I will never change my atmospheric V8 for a EV and of course no shit chinese which could never work with me ...

This is figure for pollution control on technical control made by comoanies approved by french government. Sometimes, smelling flowers. What is pollution made by China since so many years? To build shit products most often dangerous for health

Just the FACTS ma'am!

Who cares, REALLY...if you want to drive your Audi V8, till the wheels fall off? Good for you, have at it! (...kkkk!)

Dude, I get it, you don't have much love for EVs/batteries, but your opinion on these subjects, is just one (1) single data point. The worldwide global FACTS and DATA, w/r to EVs/Batteries, tells me a different story.

I'm interested in debating the FACTS and trends towards cleaner energy and automotive innovations, that are happening around the world and how they are changing eco-geo-socio-political norms.

FACT #1: E85, a blend of 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline, IS NOT considered 0% emissions during technical control or emissions testing.

E85 IS NOT emission-free, but typically has lower emissions compared to pure gasoline, depending on the vehicle and driving conditions. All European regulatory agencies (including France) and technical controls still account for these emissions when testing vehicles running on E85.

So much for your so called, "0% pollution on technical control", nonsense. (...kkkk!) Even France admits and says there is NO such thing as absolute zero 0% emissions when running E85.

FACT #2: Several of the latest studies on EVs/batteries, like the one out of Stanford Univ, says EVs last longer than ICE vehicles. Feb 05, 2025 Researchers in the U.K. looked at the life cycles of almost 30 million cars and found that electric and gasoline vehicles last for roughly the same. Under current conditions, driving an electric car is better for the climate than conventional petrol cars in 95% of the world, the study finds at Cambridge Univ.

FACT #3: In 2024, once again batteries are saving the world. The cumulative global battery energy storage systems (BESS) capacity reached an impressive 150 GW/363 GWh ... China and the USA together account for 70% of global BESS projects, on a power basis.

The ramped up addition of renewable clean energy and BESS around the world, are stabilizing and balancing electrical grids and reducing our dependency on things like coal powered pico-power plants and fossil fuel derived fuel sources.

Once you take a good look at the FACTS, they often paint a very different picture than what you or I may think or "feel"!

[Sirioja]

Then why does France allocate 2% of its GDP on military spending?

In the Dominican Republic I have vehicles that are special purpose. Over the road, truck, UTE, moto. If all you are doing is computing and using you off time to drive around then I see why you don't understand why you just have one. My vehicles are a capital expense. As a wage slave residing on the government / corporate plantations of Western Europe you probably do not understand tax law. I will make it easy for you. Because I own a business, I receive income, spend money then pay taxes on what is left over. Wage Slaves, earn money, pay taxes, then buy useless shit (like cars) with the money that is left over.

ROTLMAO

To be able to defend if a crazy like Putin wanted to try, France call it to dissuade. About cars and in life, I m only interested by performance and quality, not USA nor China standards which are quite low level, reason why USA have more than 300 billions debt with EU, because of lower quality and taxes won t change anything for quality. Trump has to improve a lot his level.

[EihTooms]

Good! That is what the people voted for. This is what they get. Next time the Democrats better run a legitimate candidate that is ready to sit in the big chair. Dick Politics don't cut it as a policy platform.

Democratic Party pols will be fine. They have all networked the next job and board membership to live the rest of their and their childrens' lives fat and happy. Even those without a current position like Kamala Harris.

They didn't "need" to get elected nearly as much as the American people "needed" to elect them if Great Economic Expansions and Jobs Creation is more preferable to people than Great Depressions, Great Recessions and Historic Jobs Destruction, that is.

Otherwise, I ageee; it is Good that the suckers who voted for Trump, stayed home and didn't vote or ultimately did not vote for Harris for fear that their sons would get their dicks chopped off and turned into vaginas, that They're eating the cats, They're eating the dogs, that caravans of blood-thirsty immigrants are on the way to steal their job, that the Stock Market was at an all-time low and the Unemployment Rate was at an all-time high, that Joe Biden and not Donald Trump was responsible for overturning Roe v Wade, that denying any member of the Biden Administration the presidency will really show Netanyahu what's what and any other idiocy promoted by Repubs and propaganda bought by Elon Musk to con the masses into voting against their and their country's best interest will get what they so richly deserve for being such gullible suckers and easy marks.

It is only too bad that the majority of the American electorate, the majority that voted "NOT Trump", will also suffer the consequences right along with the sucker minority of voters who begged to be conned into another Trump / Repub Disaster.

[SubCmdr]

About war, who wants to attack France on 21th century?

Then why does France allocate 2% of its GDP on military spending?

In the Dominican Republic I have vehicles that are special purpose. Over the road, truck, UTE, moto. If all you are doing is computing and using you off time to drive around then I see why you don't understand why you just have one. My vehicles are a capital expense. As a wage slave residing on the government / corporate plantations of Western Europe you probably do not understand tax law. I will make it easy for you. Because I own a business, I receive income, spend money then pay taxes on what is left over. Wage Slaves, earn money, pay taxes, then buy useless shit (like cars) with the money that is left over.

ROTLMAO

[SubCmdr]

Confused by how CPI jumped back up to 3% in January when the actual cost of manufactured and imported items didn't increase?

You shouldn't be.

Trump's constant blather about how excited he is to increase the price of everything for the American Consumer through the use of his "favorite and most beautiful word; Tariffs" ASAP has contributed to shippers and consumers front-loading their shipments and purchases in order to "get ahead of the game", the Trump's Tariffs game, that is, and will raise the price of things even before those beautiful Trump Tariffs are actually imposed or begin to inflict their damage on Americans directly.

As I have been pointing out would be the outcome for quite some time:

Looming Trump tariffs drive rush on imports, push shipping costs higher.
Freight costs are rising as businesses rush to import goods ahead of higher tariffs promised by US President-elect Donald Trump on Chinese and European products.
Nov. 19, 2024

https://www.pv-magazine.com/2024/11/...-costs-higher/

And Americans paying more and higher prices under Trumpanomics vs Bidenomics in that way is only the beginning. Thanks to Trump driving CPI back up to 3% with his magic "all the best words", the Fed will likely NOT enact more than one Funds Rate cut this year, if that.

As everyone with at least a minimum amount of understanding about how the economy works knows, lowering Fed Funds rates in an environment of rising inflation, especially along with increasing the price of everything with Tariffs, is a tried and true Betty Crocker recipe for even MORE Inflation and higher prices for everything.

Which, of course, is why President Musk's assistant Trump wants the Fed to do exactly that. Lolol.

Hopes for more Fed rate cuts dim.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/12/hope...ndroidappshare

Trump wants interest rate cuts. The market isn't buying it.
Feb. 12, 2025

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump...190909740.html

To MAGAs who could have but did not vote for Kamala Harris and especially that relative handful of angry Muslims spread across just three states who really decided the election in the greatest "self-own" unforced error in presidential election history, thank you for your vote.

Good! That is what the people voted for. This is what they get. Next time the Democrats better run a legitimate candidate that is ready to sit in the big chair. Dick Politics don't cut it as a policy platform.

[Sirioja]

Confused by how CPI jumped back up to 3% in January when the actual cost of manufactured and imported items didn't increase?

You shouldn't be.

Trump's constant blather about how excited he is to increase the price of everything for the American Consumer through the use of his "favorite and most beautiful word; Tariffs" ASAP has contributed to shippers and consumers front-loading their shipments and purchases in order to "get ahead of the game", the Trump's Tariffs game, that is, and will raise the price of things even before those beautiful Trump Tariffs are actually imposed or begin to inflict their damage on Americans directly.

As I have been pointing out would be the outcome for quite some time:

Looming Trump tariffs drive rush on imports, push shipping costs higher.
Freight costs are rising as businesses rush to import goods ahead of higher tariffs promised by US President-elect Donald Trump on Chinese and European products.
Nov. 19, 2024

https://www.pv-magazine.com/2024/11/...-costs-higher/

And Americans paying more and higher prices under Trumpanomics vs Bidenomics in that way is only the beginning. Thanks to Trump driving CPI back up to 3% with his magic "all the best words", the Fed will likely NOT enact more than one Funds Rate cut this year, if that.

As everyone with at least a minimum amount of understanding about how the economy works knows, lowering Fed Funds rates in an environment of rising inflation, especially along with increasing the price of everything with Tariffs, is a tried and true Betty Crocker recipe for even MORE Inflation and higher prices for everything.

Which, of course, is why President Musk's assistant Trump wants the Fed to do exactly that. Lolol.

Hopes for more Fed rate cuts dim.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/12/hope...ndroidappshare

Trump wants interest rate cuts. The market isn't buying it.
Feb. 12, 2025

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump...190909740.html

To MAGAs who could have but did not vote for Kamala Harris and especially that relative handful of angry Muslims spread across just three states who really decided the election in the greatest "self-own" unforced error in presidential election history, thank you for your vote.

Senile Trump taxes will just make inflation for your citizens, when China and EU are both stronger than USA for economics, with more than 300 billions debt versus EU. Trump is only king of bullshiting, but not of the world which have to resist to his craziness. USA will suffer under him, same like Russians.

[Sirioja]

When you are really poor you can only afford on vehicle. I have many vehicles. Just like in my tool box I have many different tools for different purposes. Argue all you want about range. I don't have a EV where I can even drive 1000 KM or would want to. So, why would I be concerned about that?

You are saying The United States of America made money on World War II? France cannot defend itself. That is why it is part on NATO. History taught them a lesson.

The stupidest comment I have read in this thread is attaching credit for movement of markets to who is POTUS. ALL MARKETS!. Presidents don't move them. The market participants move them. I am surprised to see such stupidity proffered in order to forward a political cause that is lost for the next 4 year. I've written that Democrats are sore losers. Even the ones that don't even live in The United States of America.

If a man lives in the land of smiles from reading his posts I do not see any signs of it. Plus he does not know the law in the county now calls home.

I had several Audis at same time, but I made a bad discovery: I couldn t drive them all at same time or on same day, so I took time to make work my brain and decided to keep only the best and most enjoyable one I improved and powered more ecological than batteries. In Western Europe, we still have culture of pleasure for beautiful cars which are not EVs when 0 pleasure, no oil smell. About war, who wants to attack France on 21th century? Putin who is not able to defeat Ukraine? When shameful Trump try to put fire everywhere. Our world and of course EU have to resist to his and Musk bullshits. Both are just kings of bullshiting. Pity, no brained USA drink this.

[Sirioja]

As I've previously explained to you, when you first made that "I love cars" argument. I explained to you then, that people will buy and drive cars, trucks and vehicles of all kinds, for different reasons. Most times, I would guess 95% of people buy/drive their vehicles for practical reasons.

So as the reasons for buying/owning an EV are becoming increasing more compelling, by contrast, the reasons for buying/owning an ICE vehicle are decreasing. As the DATA and FACTS for new sales/registrations of EV vs ICE purchases playout in the biggest car markets, around the world.

What is apparently evident to everyone (except Sirioja, Toyota and other ICE manufacturers with their heads stuck in the sand), is that the trend is increasingly towards buying EVs, the FACTS, DATA and NUMBERS show that. And BTW, those very same European/USA Car manufacturers, that still make petrol/diesel/ICE vehicles, also make EVs that Europeans (and Americans) buy and drive, not just China.

Almost 96%, 54% and 53.5% of new cars registered in Norway, China and Germany, respectively last month (Jan 2025), were EV/PHEVs or Hybrids. That's the trend, and those are the FACTS, dude! Yes, that overall trend my change, but not at this present time.

So while I appreciate the overt "I love cars" tears, emotions and overtures,...it's all perhaps, a bit much. May I suggest, a little less "emotion" and more FACTUAL arguments are preferable, when debating. Not weak "I love cars" arguments, with nothing to back it up!

Good on you, dude, but so what if you love cars? What's love got to do with the data that shows, EV sales/registrations outpacing ICE vehicles in some of the biggest car markets in the world?

You tell about quantity, just as a follower not driving many kilometers, when I will never change my atmospheric V8 for a EV and of course no shit chinese which could never work with me who can drive 3000 kms through mountains on a long week end, to go to bicycle climb mountains. But I m not a follower fucked by politics, but a free bird loving real cars, not kind of little but heavy trucks. But obvious, when less government money help, people buy less EVs and more thermic, in biggest European countries and I don t forget legendary Colin Chapman telling light is fast, basis for good dynamics, when big pollution from China and for batteries. And who is naive enough to trust lying China for quality, reliability, for sure not me.

[Xpartan]

Thanks, Joe.

'Their Brutal Ordeal Is Over.' Biden Announces Release of Americans in Russia Prisoner Swap.
Aug. 1, 2024

https://time.com/7006616/biden-priso...ovich-remarks/

Imagine that. A President of the United States of America managed to get 3 Americans released from Russia without kissing Putin's butt publicly or privately or claiming to be that murderous authoritarian dictator's "friend" but rather due to the true and far more important friendship among our allies.

After installing degenerates and obvious Russian agents to the top security posts in this country, what are today's events if not simply a confirmation of what we've known all alone. Trump is Putin's asset. Pure and simple. Kudos to the DOJ and personally Merrick Garland for going after the brain-damaged rioters instead of putting all their resources into prosecuting the Traitor-in-Chief.

What a clusterfuck!

[EihTooms]

Confused by how CPI jumped back up to 3% in January when the actual cost of manufactured and imported items didn't increase?

You shouldn't be.

Trump's constant blather about how excited he is to increase the price of everything for the American Consumer through the use of his "favorite and most beautiful word; Tariffs" ASAP has contributed to shippers and consumers front-loading their shipments and purchases in order to "get ahead of the game", the Trump's Tariffs game, that is, and will raise the price of things even before those beautiful Trump Tariffs are actually imposed or begin to inflict their damage on Americans directly.

As I have been pointing out would be the outcome for quite some time:

Looming Trump tariffs drive rush on imports, push shipping costs higher.
Freight costs are rising as businesses rush to import goods ahead of higher tariffs promised by US President-elect Donald Trump on Chinese and European products.
Nov. 19, 2024

https://www.pv-magazine.com/2024/11/...-costs-higher/

"Trump has vowed blanket tariffs of up to 20% on all imports into the US and additional tariffs of 60% to 100% on goods from China, the company said in a statement. Data from Xeneta the ocean and air freight intelligence platform shows the last time Trump ramped up tariffs on Chinese imports during the trade war in 2018, ocean container shipping freight rates spiked more than 70%.

And Americans paying more and higher prices under Trumpanomics vs Bidenomics in that way is only the beginning. Thanks to Trump driving CPI back up to 3% with his magic "all the best words", the Fed will likely NOT enact more than one Funds Rate cut this year, if that.

As everyone with at least a minimum amount of understanding about how the economy works knows, lowering Fed Funds rates in an environment of rising inflation, especially along with increasing the price of everything with Tariffs, is a tried and true Betty Crocker recipe for even MORE Inflation and higher prices for everything.

Which, of course, is why President Musk's assistant Trump wants the Fed to do exactly that. Lolol.

Hopes for more Fed rate cuts dim.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/12/hope...ndroidappshare

Fed interest rate cut wont be coming until at least September, if at all this year, following a troubling inflation report Wednesday.

Chair Jerome Powell, in an appearance before the House Financial Services Committee, insisted the Fed had made great progress on inflation from its cycle peak but were not quite there yet.

Trump wants interest rate cuts. The market isn't buying it.
Feb. 12, 2025

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump...190909740.html

Just before the release of Wednesdays monthly consumer price report, President Donald Trump called for lower interest rates in a post on his Truth Social platform.

Interest Rates should be lowered, something which would go hand in hand with upcoming Tariffs!!! Lets Rock and Roll, America!!! he wrote.

Upon the reports release just a few minutes later, investors indicated they had other plans.

With the pace of inflation for January coming in above forecasts, stocks tumbled while borrowing costs climbed. Those moves reflect expectations that the Federal Reserve, which helps set interest rates throughout the economy, will now keep those rates higher for longer.

To MAGAs who could have but did not vote for Kamala Harris and especially that relative handful of angry Muslims spread across just three states who really decided the election in the greatest "self-own" unforced error in presidential election history, thank you for your vote.

[Spidy]

You don t know yet for whole 2025 , when Niagara fall for Tesla, when many Europeans feel shameful because of what is Musk. EV are not real cars, when You love cars, and they also pollute with batteries.

As I've previously explained to you, when you first made that "I love cars" argument. I explained to you then, that people will buy and drive cars, trucks and vehicles of all kinds, for different reasons. Most times, I would guess 95% of people buy/drive their vehicles for practical reasons.

So as the reasons for buying/owning an EV are becoming increasing more compelling, by contrast, the reasons for buying/owning an ICE vehicle are decreasing. As the DATA and FACTS for new sales/registrations of EV vs ICE purchases playout in the biggest car markets, around the world.

What is apparently evident to everyone (except Sirioja, Toyota and other ICE manufacturers with their heads stuck in the sand), is that the trend is increasingly towards buying EVs, the FACTS, DATA and NUMBERS show that. And BTW, those very same European/USA Car manufacturers, that still make petrol/diesel/ICE vehicles, also make EVs that Europeans (and Americans) buy and drive, not just China.

Almost 96%, 54% and 53.5% of new cars registered in Norway, China and Germany, respectively last month (Jan 2025), were EV/PHEVs or Hybrids. That's the trend, and those are the FACTS, dude! Yes, that overall trend my change, but not at this present time.

So while I appreciate the overt "I love cars" tears, emotions and overtures,...it's all perhaps, a bit much. May I suggest, a little less "emotion" and more FACTUAL arguments are preferable, when debating. Not weak "I love cars" arguments, with nothing to back it up!

Good on you, dude, but so what if you love cars? What's love got to do with the data that shows, EV sales/registrations outpacing ICE vehicles in some of the biggest car markets in the world?