Bangkok Reports

[Werqweq]

Hi all,

I am planning to go Bangkok 3 night and Phuket 7 night in month of June with my wife a one a kid of 5 years.

Like to know if there any right blog where to stay in Bangkok and Phuket and what all place to cover. I'll be roaming alone in night as she is not a party person and like to explore some adult nightlife. I'm also interested in exploring feminine ladyboy (safe ones). It would be really helpful for provide some insights. Anyone want to connect as I'll be there June 5-15, would be great. Meanwhile I'll go though different post.

Excellent question. The safe ladyboys all wear an ankle bracelet on their left foot that says "farang baa" (means "safe" in Thai) to indicate they are safe. If it's a "feminine" ladyboy it will additionally include the suffix "ka", whereas the more "bloke in a skirt" type ladyboys will use the suffix "krap", though myself I don't notice much difference between the "farang baa ka" and "farang baa krap" ladyboys.

[Aimless]

I'll second this. EihT's report really inspired me to have a look since I'm always prowling around Nana, but when I walked by last night at like 10 pm the many wares on display outside were really ratchet looking so I was totally uninspired to go inside. I'll follow up on this and peek inside at some point and report back. Cheers! A.

Checked in again last night at about 11PM at Las Vegas across from Nana Plaza and actually went inside this time for a peek. There were 2 girls outside that I would rate a 5/10 at best. When I went inside there were two standing at the door, two on the dance floor and two sitting with customers. I don't think I'd rate any of them more than a 5/10 but I'm redic picky so don't take my word for it. Other than that, the place was empty except for those two mongers. I can't think of any reason to go to this place in light of the hoarde of cute girls across the street in Nana Plaza. However, the girls at Las Vegas looked fun and were enthuastically dancing on the very cool lit dance floor, so if you want a different vibe without the crowd, don't need a super model to keep you happy, and like the idea of the girls dancing in front of you at eye level (I liked it) then this place might be your spot. I also walked Soi 7 and 7/1 but didn't really see anything that caught my eye, drink only girls or not, but again, its probably just me. Cheers, A.

[EzPlayar]

I spent an enjoyable two weeks in Pattaya and Krabi, then ventured to the barren hills of southern China. No play at all here. I return to Bkk for one night for the long haul out. Not worth coming into town so I'm looking around for company and / or play at my airport hotel. Appreciate the suggestions.

[Interstella]

I agree that it could be timing or approach. But after all these years and devoting significant time to just relaxing, having fun, drinks, Thai language basics, at least enough to get some laughs out of them and so on, I believe the determining factor for me is pure luck. The wheel just spins and my ball (s) just happens to land on the right number on a given night. In that particular group of beer bars on Soi 7, that is.

In other venues such as Nana Plaza gogo bars, "luck" is not nearly the critical factor in whether or not I wind up having Real Sex with an attractive girl from there as it is in other venues.

I would also classify Thermae as one of those Pure Luck venues. In fact, I might have blown my wad of "Luck" for the entire year with that cute face and sweet body young lady I took from there a week or two ago who agreed upfront to Real Sex / DFK, BBBJ +BBFSCIP with me. I posted a FR about it here. Anyway, something like that at Thermae is so rare for me I don't expect the 2nd Lucky Lightning Strike like that to happen again in Thermae for a couple of years at least. LOL.

Yet, eternal optimist that I am, I still stop into those Soi 7 beer bars and Thermae every so often just to see if the ball will land on the winning number this night. But usually not.

So, I have to give Thermae the old college try, despite the difficulty levels I've read about here. I have a sort of specific question for you that I thought you might help with based on your post. Is "Real Sex" as translated in Thai something that will get the BBFSCIP point across? For example, in Lima, the lingo would be "Pelado or Peladito" meaning bald or bare, or "sexo VIP / VIP servicios" and also the less nuanced "Sin Condon or Sin Preservativo" meaning without a condom. Strangely "sexo natural" should get the point across in Spanish, but it's not the lingo there. I just don't want to shock the women here with some crazy translation like "I want to cum in your pussy" haha. I'm sure they've heard it all before, but just trying to keep the negotiations as light and playful as possible. I've learned even when paying for it, it's best to keep the "vibes" as positive as possible. I'm refusing the attitude of, "oh well the Koreans own the game in this venue" better to move on. They might be the dominant force, but that doesn't mean I won't show up as an emergent force. Dammit, I've got money and a medium sized dick too, they must understand, haha! I know another way to handle it is just go for it without first discussing during negotiations, but I still would love an idea of how to broach that subject. Maybe it's as simple as "Boom Boom no Condom", I dunno. ? I'm flexible on blowing a little cash in Thermae, so we'll see what's up regardless. Thanks either way.

[Fleaker29]

Last night I went ahead and wanted to try BKK on my own.

Went to Thermae and there were a lot of girls there. The thing is that the one that appealed to me said "no kissing" that became a major turn down for me. So, finished my beer and left.

Took the BTS and went to T-Ded and there were quite a few good looking girls. The catch, all taken. Walked to the restroom and saw the long bench. I was laughing inside because I had been looking forward to seeing it.

After a few dances (100 THB each) decided to leave.

I ended up in Rainbow. I liked the place but ended up too drunk and left around 4 am.

I'm now going to try my luck in Pattaya. I'm not so good in this business. .

[UglyAzzMan]

I'll second this. EihT's report really inspired me to have a look since I'm always prowling around Nana, but when I walked by last night at like 10 pm the many wares on display outside were really ratchet looking so I was totally uninspired to go inside. I'll follow up on this and peek inside at some point and report back. Cheers! A.

Ratchet looking. Aka Ugly. Hahaha.

[Crocodilexp]

Foreign working girls. If anyone knows me, they know I love Viet women. I find them on WE chat. Start your search using the people nearby function on Lower Sukhumvit. You will find them for 3500ST during the day which is a bargain compared to what they ask in the bars. However, the experience will vary and mostly depends on YMMV. They are aggressive and hungry for money so they will say anything to get you in their bed and most will ask you to pay first. Use your best judgement but keep this in mind: Never ever ever ever pay upfront under any circumstances! No matter what. Even if the lady says she will fuck you a thousand ways with no condom, says she will let you fuck her in the ass, and agrees to stay with you for 12 hours. Even if she agrees to let you film it all. As soon as you pay first, you lose all control.

On Soi 4, Viets are usually out past 8 pm. They typically ask 2000. I tend to offer 1000-1500, which almost all will accept, although they prefer that you don't ask in front of their friends, since I guess 2000 is what they agreed to ask. The most common price I had them at was 1200, so 3500 is a huge lucky bonus for them.

Most ask you to pay first, and at 1000 I don't care to put up a fight about it, sets a bad tone for the session. About 1/3 give very basic service and are rushed, but about 2/3 do make some effort, and I do tip them 200-500 extra if deserved. At 3500 upfront, I imagine they would think they've already squeezed all they could, and are just eager to finish and move on.

[FunnyLoverBoy]

Hi all,

I am planning to go Bangkok 3 night and Phuket 7 night in month of June with my wife a one a kid of 5 years.

Like to know if there any right blog where to stay in Bangkok and Phuket and what all place to cover. I'll be roaming alone in night as she is not a party person and like to explore some adult nightlife. I'm also interested in exploring feminine ladyboy (safe ones). It would be really helpful for provide some insights. Anyone want to connect as I'll be there June 5-15, would be great. Meanwhile I'll go though different post.

[Aimless]

Just a quick follow up on this new bar on Soi 4.

I popped in tonight around 11 pm and none of the cute girls I saw on Thursday, Opening Night, were there. A friend and fellow punter of mine checked it out Friday night and said there were no doable girls in there then either.

So it could have been that the bar owner hired an agency to fill the line up with 4-5 hotties, Coyotes, on Opening Night and they have now vanished into thin air. I've seen it done a few times around here.

Oh well. Anyway, just passing it along. And I suppose there could he another huge change in the line up tomorrow. Nobody knows.

I'll second this. EihT's report really inspired me to have a look since I'm always prowling around Nana, but when I walked by last night at like 10 pm the many wares on display outside were really ratchet looking so I was totally uninspired to go inside. I'll follow up on this and peek inside at some point and report back. Cheers! A.

[EihTooms]

Maybe BKK is different but in Pattaya they keep the temporary agency girls around for a week or 10 days. Maybe BKK gogo bars only do it for 1 night just to get photos.

I notice the gogo bar is named Las Vegas. Maybe it's related to Las Vegas gogo bar in Pattaya and the "hot" girls you saw went up to BKK for 1 night and back down to Pattaya for the weekend.

New bars typically have a hard time hiring hotties when they first open. If the girls were hot and interested in working in a bar they would already be doing that in an established bar.

I would say the hotties I saw there on Opening Night were on par with hotties one would find among the top 20% or so of the Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy gogo bars. But they couldn't pull them from those bars for the night so it does sound plausible they pulled them from whatever other bar in Thailand was associated with Las Vegas Soi 4 in Bangkok.

And now that I think back on it, those girls' demeanor did not appear anything like the usual Agency Girl / Coyote Drink and Customer Hustlers. They were not aggressively trying to pull customers into the place or doing anything to put incoming customers' butts in the booths or hustling for drink purchases.

They were just sitting there, looking down at the floor or their phone and had to be asked a couple of times by the manager to get up and shuffle around a little on the dance floor. Very much like they were there only as a favor to someone.

[Fleaker29]

Hello,

Any fellow mongers in BKK?

This is my 2nd time and I am a bit shy and would like a "wingman".

I'm staying around Nana and will try to pay membership now.

[Banana Boi]

So it could have been that the bar owner hired an agency to fill the line up with 4-5 hotties, Coyotes, on Opening Night and they have now vanished into thin air. I've seen it done a few times around here.

Maybe BKK is different but in Pattaya they keep the temporary agency girls around for a week or 10 days. Maybe BKK gogo bars only do it for 1 night just to get photos.

I notice the gogo bar is named Las Vegas. Maybe it's related to Las Vegas gogo bar in Pattaya and the "hot" girls you saw went up to BKK for 1 night and back down to Pattaya for the weekend.

[EihTooms]

Las Vegas GoGo Bar on Soi 4
The new "gogo" bar on Soi 4, now called Las Vegas, reported to be the 1st gogo bar ON the Soi and not INSIDE Nana Plaza, opened last night.

About 8 pm, I was told by the thoroughly doable late 30's hostess I agreed to go inside with that I was the first customer on their first night to enter the place.

I celebrated by being her and our server a LadyDrink. 220 baht each. Small cocktail glass size, not shots in this case. My soda was 130 baht.

I can't relate any other intel at this time regarding barfines and such because I did not broach the topic with my drinking partner. My GF had just an hour or two previously drained me to within an inch of my life and my preferred approach is to not open a discussion about those things with a bargirl unless and until I am really interested and ready to pull the trigger and go. I don't like to bring it up for the sake of idle curiosity..

Just a quick follow up on this new bar on Soi 4.

I popped in tonight around 11 pm and none of the cute girls I saw on Thursday, Opening Night, were there. A friend and fellow punter of mine checked it out Friday night and said there were no doable girls in there then either.

So it could have been that the bar owner hired an agency to fill the line up with 4-5 hotties, Coyotes, on Opening Night and they have now vanished into thin air. I've seen it done a few times around here.

Oh well. Anyway, just passing it along. And I suppose there could he another huge change in the line up tomorrow. Nobody knows.

[Aimless]

I agree with Aimless in his depiction of what to expect and possibly look for in the Philippines. I went to Cebu, which is completely sneered at here for the most part by other members it seems. Firstly, Pina Love is the easiest app I have ever used, and I kind of "cracked the code" of the user interface to basically give me very easy introductory access to the best available on said app. Before my descent into mongering I was stuck on dating apps in the US, and kind of got used to mastering how to best navigate the individual UI's of each, and Pina Love by far is the easiest to game the system. Cebu is a college city in part, so you can imagine that their are plenty of oppurtunities to be had. I spent extended parts of my vacation with various women off that app, and truly had a blast. The lack of language barrier is a huge thing to consider when you're going to travel. It's not just that these pinay women want your money, that's part of it, and maybe all of it for some, but in my exprience they truly want to be around western foreigners, and probably other foreigners as well. For example, the first night I was with a woman, the deed was done, and there were two twin beds, so I crawled into one to sleep and left her in the other not thinking much of it. She got upset and left, and I didn't put it together until later that I was treating her like a prostitute, which I think nothing of in a business transaction, and that was upsetting to her. I learned quickly if I just showed a very basic level of a "dating" disposition towards her and others, how happy she was, and how happy she made me when she returned again the following nights and days. Hell, there were women off of Pina that got upset at the initial offer of money, but even after that they were still open to going on a regular date! Not a SINGLE one used the report feature on Pina Love when I offered money, but possibly the report feature might just be ignored by the Pina Love service team. Try offering money to someone on Tinder in the wrong part of the world and watch your account get banned in 5 seconds. Then there's how the women treat (foreign) men there. It was next level GFE as far as my mongering experience goes. So, Imagine if you went to Manila for example with a metro popluation of 15 million, and hit the ground running with Pina Love, and all else that the city has to offer. Personally, I want to hit all the top spots to see for myself.

As an aside here's my Pina Love formula, that I came up with by creating a fake female profile on an alternate phone to see what the women were seeing on their end. First, pick a bullshit 2 or 3 letter name. Also, you can message without matching on Pina Love (hope it's still like this. ? this is paramount. We're trying to keep this first introductory message as short as possible for a reason here boys. Second, the message should look exactly like this for brevity's sake: " Hi, I'm XXX, I can do 4 K a night. " What this does is when the women are scrolling through their message PREVIEWS, they can see that A, you are offering money, and be, how much. This will help them filter and select your message through what I guaruntee you is a SEA of messages in their inbox, that probably is porpotionately tied to how hot they are. There was not a single one on that app I had eyes for that got away from me, and that was a fantastic feeling and expreience. Just info, do with it as you please. If you write a long message this is what they will see in the message preview "Hey, what's up, you're super duper prett. " Now this is contingent on the text scale setting on their phone, but if you're dealing with college aged women, it's safe to assume they are not using large scale text. Thirdly, use your copy pasta skills to send that short and direct message to everyone you might want to consider, get that whatsapp deets, and seal those deals. Cheers.

Excellent strategy and tips. I think what makes Cebu such a great place is that a lot of these girls come from other areas to go to school or work so they don't have their parents breathing down their necks which means you can get them alone, and late. Sometimes a young female cousin or friend will come as a chaperone, and don't think for a minute that they're not fair game as well. They are. I've often been texted by the cousin / friend when I lost interest in the main girl. Sisters are available too believe it or not LOL, although I didn't do them at the same time but maybe you guys can pull that off. The one assumption I'd caution is assuming that Manila is even better. I'd say not necessarily, and the reason is the traffic and lack of viable transportation. You can set up dates for a distance that you'd assume is an hour away, but its often 4 hours away which means the Filipina will take 6 hours to get to you and assume she's overnighting which is also a big hassle, so I'd recommend keeping your prospects within 20 minutes which is a very small area. Always, always make them come to you. Its just too much trouble to go to them. The other point I'd add is, that while I agree that Pina Love is amazing (met my last ST of 3 years on there), this is a numbers game if you're picky so best to get a profile on all the sites such as Date in Asia, Filipino Cupid, OK Cupid, Tinder, etc etc. And yes, be very careful what you say regarding business or money because you'll get banned quickly. Cheers, A.

[Aimless]

Worse! I call it the Dominican Republic of the Pacific. I can only take so many days in both places. For instance the other day I had planned to leave the Philippines on the 8th, but after finishing diving on the 5th, I had enough and came back the 6th instead. I go mostly for scuba diving around the country.

Different strokes for different folks though. I had a buddy (RIP) who moved to Angeles after living all over DR for years. For some reason, no matter how much we talked about it and how much he said he would come to Thailand, he never did. (There is only a 3 hour flight between the two.) I do not know what he was scared of. He had previously lived in Costa Rica and all over Brazil (where we met), so I do not know what his fear of Thailand was. I was shocked when he ended up in Philippines because as much as we had talked about Thailand, he had never mentioned anything about the Philippines before.

All he did was go to Kokomo's for breakfast and sit 2 hours imagining the ass that all the chicks walking past did not have, go home and come back to Kokomo's about 6 pm to drink juice and watch the chicks walk by again. In Thailand there is much more to do than go sit at the same restaurant for hours everyday.

I am a Burger King guy. I like to have it my way. In the Philippines they know what is best for you and you can only get it that way. Can't buy the items separately, they only come in a combo. Ask for grilled cheese and get told they only have grilled ham and cheese. It does not translate to them and they do not accept explanation to just leave the ham off, because that is the way it comes so that is the only way you can get it. Not allowed sir.

I concur, but this reminds me so much of an experience I had at the food court at the S & R (Costco Copy) in Makati that I have to share. I walked up to the counter and asked for a pizza with no cheese, just like I do at Costco in the States. Of course in the States, they don't bat an eye and I get my pizza as ordered with no cheese. At the S&R Makati food court counter, the attendant looked at me with a blank stare like she'd just had a stroke. I speak enough Tagalog that I translated for her, but that didn't matter. After 3 seconds of an attempt to process this monumental task of simply not putting any cheese on the pizza, she scurried away and grabbed the manager who came over, confirmed I wanted no cheese, and also attempted to mentally go through the horrendously complex task of not adding cheese to a pizza. After a few seconds of dumbfoundedness, she shook her head and said: "So sorry sir, this is not possible. " I died laughing. Of course in Thailand you can get anything you want exactly as you like it, cheese, no cheese, sausage, no sausage (maybe hidden sausage) etc, at a (usually) very fair price and dang good quality, whether it be pizza or p*why. And yea, in Thailand there is so much more to do and means of getting there to do it by train or freeway (hour depending) to avoid the parking lot style traffic which has a freeway / tollway or two, but they're always in gridlock and there is no viable metro / train that will get you where you want to go. And while I'm ranting, I need to add that you'll find this traffic in all the far flung places you attempt to visit thinking that they'll be "out of the way" or "boondocks". They're boondocks all right, but the traffic is solid there too. The only exception I've found is Batanes which is pretty cool if you don't mind doing much of anything except maybe scuba, but the fish are all gone (dynamite?) so only a beautiful reef remains. Sad.