Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Blood Red]

You seem to be uninformed about the fact that Ukraine is a sovereign country with a population of over 40 million people, it's not something that russia has the military capability or strategic ability to defeat. Especially not if Ukraine receives help from the EU.
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This shows how little you know. Ukraine HAD a population of 40 million before the war, sure. Tens of millions have left that will never come back. Over a million men have died in a needless war. Ukraine will become a rump dysfunctional state thanks to NATO and the EU. I hope you warmongers are happy.

[Blood Red]

Russia started this war just like they started the war against Georgia in 2008 and all the wars against Finland and the Baltics.

I feel sorry for you, hopefully one day you will be less opinionated about something you clearly are so uninformed and misinformed about.

You don't know the history. Russia attacked Georgia in response to Georgia attacking Russian troops. But you don't know this because the mainstream media didn't tell you this. But now you know.

[Blood Red]

How does this end Blood Red? The west is probably going to keep arming Ukraine in a big way, unless there's a ceasefire that leads to a peace agreement. That means that Russia potentially would need to go medieval to win the war. By that I mean treat Ukraine like Israel treated Gaza. In which case there will be blood. Lots of blood. I don't see Ukraine accepting a ceasefire unless it's able to keep a substantial military; or there's a guarantee by western governments that they'll come to the aid of a neutral Ukraine in the event of an attack; or there are peacekeepers on the ground. And the only nations that appear willing to supply peacekeepers are NATO countries and Australia, which is problematic for the Russians.

Are there any realistic compromises that could end the war without a lot more bloodshed?

I'll give you a few scenarios as to how this may end (or continue) and then share which I believe is the most likely one:

1. Trump forces Ukraine to accept Russian control of the 4 new territories + Crimea and agree to neutrality. The issue here is that the Russians don't control all of the 4 new territories and Putin has demanded that Ukraine cede full control to the Russians. I find it hard to believe that the Ukrainians will ever accept all these conditions, so this scenario looks a bit unlikely to me.

2. Trump cuts all aid and intelligence to Ukraine and the AFU collapse. While a collapse may very well happen if the conflict continues, I don't see the USA cutting off all aid to Ukraine.

3. The conflict continues, the Russians take more and more territory, and we reach a frozen conflict where both sides stop shooting at some point and the Russians laying claim to Odessa, Kharkov, Dnipropetrovk and Nikolaiv. That will be disastrous for Ukraine. Remember, the longer this goes on, the more territory Ukraine will lose.

Unfortunately, I see 3 as the most likely scenario. I really hope I'm wrong and I hope it's 1 that actually happens.

[Blood Red]

Lmfao, you're a raging anti-semite.

What happened the 7th October 2023?

That's what started this war.

For ignorant fools like you, the Israeli Palestinian war started on Oct 7, 2023. It didn't. But then again that's what the western media told you so you don't know any better. Just like the Russia Ukraine war didn't start on Feb 2022. I don't have time to educate you right now but may do so later.

The Palestinians shouldn't have started this war by committing a genocidal attack and mass rapings against Israelis.

The only genocide that is happened is happening right now in Gaza. But that's okay with you because for you the Palestinians are human animals, right? And the only proven rapes are the ones committed by the IDF of Palestinians.

It's important to understand that gaza is full of radical islamistic terrorist groups like hamas and islamic jihad. It's basically no different than isis.

Do you think your lifestyle would be accepted in gaza? Lmfao, they would kill you in 5 seconds and no one would blink an eye or give a second thought about it.

The Christian Palestinians are being treated horribly by the other palestinians.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo...ce=chatgpt.com

Since you care so much about Christians, what do you have to say about the Christians getting slaughtered in Syria by ISIS which is now backed by the EU and USA?

[Xpartan]

The Dems still don't understand Trump and his minions.

Sigh.

Rep. Seth Moulton (D-MA), who sits on the House Armed Services Committee, didn't try to hide his dismay Monday when asked about a top U.S. official echoing Vladimir Putin's talking Points on Ukraine.

Steve Witkoff, U.S. special envoy to the Middle East, told Fox News over the weekend that some parts of Ukraine are "Russian territory."

Witkoff also appeared on former Fox News host Tucker Carlson's podcast and CNN's Kate Bolduan played a clip of Witkoff telling Carlson that "There have been referendums where the overwhelming majority of the people have indicated that they want to be under Russian rule."

Moulton reacted with total disbelief.

"It's just insane, and I think we've known for a while that Tucker Carlson is on the Kremlin's side and has been for some time, but now the lead negotiator for the United States is taking the Tucker Carlson/Putin position on these negotiations. He's literally negotiating for the other side, negotiating for the aggressor, negotiating for the violator of international law. And what does he say? He says, 'Oh, I take Putin at his word.' Is this guy a total idiot? Is he just completely nave?"

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Moulton then suggested that Witkoff was being "paid off by Russia."

Bolduan interjected, "I get your point, but there's no evidence that that has been presented, that there's any payoff that has actually been happening to Steve Witkoff."

"I'm not I'm not saying there's any evidence," Moulton acknowledged. "I'm just trying to understand why on earth would a U.S. negotiator takes our adversary's side? I mean, Reagan must be rolling over in his grave here. The Republican Party has become subservient to Russia."

Boulduan read a portion of a new Time Magazine interview with Ukraine's president Volodymyr Zelensky that read, "I believe Russia has managed to influence some people on the White House Team through information. Their signal to Americans was that Ukraine doesn't want to end the war and something should be done to force them.

Moulton claimed that Zelenskyy was trying to introduce some reality "that the trump Team apparently can't figure out because Vadimir Putin is a KGB agent who is playing Trump like a violin."

I respectfully disagree.

No, he's not "naive".

Did Russia bribe him? Maybe, he's been with the Master for decades after all.

But they didn't have to.

People who've chosen to serve Trump do not have a backbone. That's why they've been selected. They can't afford a backbone. The backbone would get them in trouble in a New York minute. Even long-term friends.

All Trump had to say was this:

Hey Steve, you gotta say something nice about Vladimir. I have Tucker Carlson somewhere in my back pocket -- wait, where is -- ah, here he is. Hey Tucker, can you do a solid to my bud Steve here. He needs to talk to you about Russia Russia Russia. And also about that bitchy Ukraine too.

That's all it took and even less maybe.

[Xpartan]

https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-...isinformation/

Good article. Sentiment is changing on the great clusterfuck and probably due to all the independent news outlets.

Ah! Alan Kuperman! Where could I've heard this name before? But of course!

https://www.rt.com/russia/interview-...lan-j-kuperman

https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/26...ntion-invasion

No, "sentiment" is not changing, propacondom. Useful idiots and sellouts don't change, LOL!

[Sirioja]

https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-...isinformation/

Good article. Sentiment is changing on the great clusterfuck and probably due to all the independent news outlets.

I worry Trump and his gang enjoy to suck Putin and want to fuck Ukrainians. I wish courageous Ukrainians won t accept to be fucked by such shameful, about their land, when they were already robbed Crimea by criminal dictator Putin.

[Xpartan]

Hey, he is American, obviously. No need for education. Anyway, the fact, that Putler learned a lot from Adolf is very obvious.

Hitler-Stalin agreement about Poland, now Putin-Trump trying to do similar business with Ukraine.

Adolfs March into Sudetenland, to free the German part of population. Putlers March into Crimea and Donbass.

Adolfs breach of non-attack agreement with the SU, Putlers breach of Budapest agreement.

The main difference is, that Adolfs troops were welcome in Sudetenland with flowers; Putlers green men were welcome with steel, when trying to go to Kiev.

To be fair, I am not against Russians. But against Putler.

Being someone, who lived and worked 5 years each in RF and UA. Knowing the Palace Square as well as kazantip.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Mr. Hot-not-antiSemite-for-he-loves-Arabs- Dog is not an American. He's either English or one of your closest EU neighbors. Being an American is not a pre-requisit for being an ass. Which is precisely what he is.

An ass!

Snotty, ill-natured, uneducated, anti-Semitic ass. The way he's talking to his opponents here is anything but unique. This is how he communicates on all forums -- just check his "musings" in the Jakarta thread.

[Riina]

https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-...isinformation/

Good article. Sentiment is changing on the great clusterfuck and probably due to all the independent news outlets.

[HotDog666]

I do realize that you trump-supporters have little to no respect for democracy, laws and the constitution but Ukraine is a constitutional democracy where the President actually respects and follow the law and constitution.

Elections during a war, an invasion and occupation is explicitly forbidden according to the Ukrainian constitution.

It's not enough for you trump supporters to disrespect the US constitution, now you also want to disrespect the Ukrainian constitution.

It's one thing that you're against the constitutions of USA and foreign countries like Ukraine, but your total lack of empathy for human beings (yes, Ukrainians are humans) is deeply disturbing, shocking and shameful.

The Ukrainian people are united, what they want, and what they need is peace.

Can you, trump and putin respect that?

You speak about democracy and pretend to care about the Ukrainian people but when will you respect the Ukrainian people's call for a real peace, democracy and sovereignty from russian imperialism and war crimes?

Show your true colors.

How are the Ukrainians supposed to have elections when a fifth of the country is under direct occupation and the rest is being heavily attacked by russian war criminals?

Who would dare to go to any polling station where they would be sitting ducks for putin and his war criminals?

Do you seek to murder more Ukrainians?

Who will count the votes in the occupied parts of Ukraine? Putin? That would be hilarious.

Please, stop the charades.

Everyone who's ever been to russia or read history or read the news knows that nazism is deeply rooted in the russian society.

Have you ever been to russia? Have you even been to Europe?

The russians for sure didn't seem to mind the nazis when they signed the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact in 1939.

And now 86 years later we might see a trump-putin pact.

It's not even funny anymore to see how the history seems to always repeat itself.

Come on, didn't you know that russia and the nazis were allied when the Second World War started?

This conflation of nazism and Putin's action is stupid even for a half wit like you.

Russia is traumatised by the nazis' assaults on it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-barbaric.html

When Putin initiated his attacks on Ukraine, he characterized it as a war on nazism and the Ukrainians as Nazis.

Yes, gaslighting, but then that's something you're very familiar with, aren't you, zionist?

[HotDog666]

How can I be a member of the Trump cult when I have criticized him for his tariffs, excessive government spending, lockdown of our county during the pandemic, and being antivaxx when the vaccine quit working?

That is the evidence you call irrefutable?

Meanwhile, I have not ever seen a Democratic douche like yourself take a position contrary to Democratic talking points. Ever!

I have distinguished between a person voting Democrat and being a cult member Democratic douche like yourself. You have not. Anyone who voted for Trump is in the Trump cult.

As for ad hominems, you might want to know what ad hominem means before you use it, A fallacious objection to an argument or factual claim by appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim.

In other words, you do not have to factually refute anyone. You just call them names when you cannot logically refute what they say.

So tell me Xpartan, when have you been at odds with any Democrat positions? Hmmm?

*As for ad hominems, you might want to know what ad hominem means before you use it, A fallacious objection to an argument or factual claim by appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. *.

Dammit man, will you stop posting "facts"! Get with the programme. We do not do facts on this forum. If Xparatan and his mini me micro intellectual pal say " Up is down" because "State department of Up is Down" said "Up is down" then Goddamnit DO NOT APPEAL TO REASON. Up is down and you are an anti-upper for denying it.

You really need to take a long hard introspective look at yourself, and so do I.

Ok, sarcasam off. These dumb motherfuckers belong in the world of 1984.

[HotDog666]

It's hard to imagine that a grownup living in the 21st century, who can read and isn't mentally retarded, can seriously would employ this "Arabs are Semites too" fallacy -- considering that idiocy was debunked over 100 years ago. Wilhelm Marr who SPAWNED the term Anti-Semitism had never seen an Arab in his life. His Anti-Semitic League was always persecuting Jews and Jews alone. He would've been mightily surprised if anyone told him "but Arabs are Semites too, you know, why do you hate them so much"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Marr

With every new post you somehow manage to reveal yourself with more and better details. Goodness, if most anti-Semites weren't dumb as a doorknob!

https://www.britannica.com/topic/antisemitism

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict.../anti-Semitism

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionari.../anti-semitism

I don't give a fuck who coined the phrase, or how it came to be coined. I literally explained to you how the definition of it does not make sense because scientifically (it is presumptuous to think someone as stupid as you would do science given you cannot fathom basic logic) the Palestinians are SEMETIC.

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antis...article-801607

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11543891/

https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/...nds-8c11358210

I do not genuinely believe you were born stupid but that your warped perverted hypocritical and callous mindset in watching tens of thousands of innocent women and children be massacred and excusing it is a consequence of your evil ideology. But you must be brought to account for your vile ideology.

[HotDog666]

What you're really saying is that russia must be given more times to produce weapons and mobilize their troops while Ukraine must be weakened so Russia can invade their country. Russia is not the boss of Ukraine. Russia is not the boss of Poland. Russia is not the boss of Finland nor Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania.

You're against democracy, you're against human rights, you're against international law and you're against free souvereign nations.

Ukraine will not and can not have elections when their country is invaded and occupied by russian nazis.

Who's going to count the votes in Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Cherson?

Who's going to go out to vote so the russian nazis can bomb them easier?

None of Russia's neighbors have attacked russia, but all of russia's neighbors have been attacked by russia.

If we're going to reach any kind of peace russia must be demilitarized so they can't attack their peaceful neighbors!

Ukraine needs more weapons, russia less.

You're against democracy, you're against human rights, you're against international law and you're against free souvereign nations. *.

LOOOL- What a fucking hypocrite this shameless clown is. Have you no shame? Have you genuinely no shame? Idiot.

[HotDog666]

You do realize that you come across as a neo nazi when you feel the constant need to call people "Zionist" in all of your posts?

I do realise that hypocritical zionists and / or imperialistic neo cons racists will oppose the criticism of zionists and Israel by hypocritical attacks. I call Zionists, "Zionists", because as your Zionist counterpart asserted: if the shoe fits- let the zionist wear it.

[HotDog666]

Lmfao, you're a raging anti-semite.

What happened the 7th October 2023?

That's what started this war. The Palestinians shouldn't have started this war by committing a genocidal attack and mass rapings against Israelis.

It's important to understand that gaza is full of radical islamistic terrorist groups like hamas and islamic jihad. It's basically no different than isis.

Do you think your lifestyle would be accepted in gaza? Lmfao, they would kill you in 5 seconds and no one would blink an eye or give a second thought about it.

The Christian Palestinians are being treated horribly by the other palestinians.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo...ce=chatgpt.com

*Lmfao, you're a raging anti-semite.

What happened the 7th October 2023?

That's what started this war. *.

No, zionist, what started this was the appropriation of PALESTINIANS' Land by the jews instrumented by the imperialist west, principally the UK, and the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians from their own freaking lands and the racist dehumanising of the remaining Palestinians by the Israelis.