Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Sirioja]

Many posters on this thread who have never been to Kiev or other parts of Ukraine.

But I meet Ukrainian women who needs to leave their country and they all tell me they dream to return, even quite poor country, after Putin who doesn't want to stop war and feel supported by shameful Trump gang.

[Jarango]

Who the fuck would argue about politics all day on a sex forum..

Arguing about politics is fine. Lots of informed people do it and not everyone has a 24/7 obsession to jacking off to beaver, which is why a wholev range of threads exist on this site. The problem is arguing with igoramuses like Paulie, XPartan and the other sewer idiotss. Wrestle with a pig etc.

[Tiny 12]

Who the fuck would argue about politics all day on a sex forum.

I would, that's who! But only on days when Paulie97 comes out to play.

[Jojosun]

Exactly my thought.

Who the fuck would argue about politics all day on a sex forum.

There are too many pussies out there waiting to be fucked for people to waste time on this shit.

Many posters on this thread who have never been to Kiev or other parts of Ukraine.

[Jojosun]

Exactly my thought.

Who the fuck would argue about politics all day on a sex forum.

There are too many pussies out there waiting to be fucked for people to waste time on this shit.

Many posters on this thread who have never been to Kiev or other parts of Ukraine.

[ShooBree]

Mark Milley was also the one that said 'Kiev in 3 days' before the invasion. The pathetic fake dishonest western mainstream media then lied and said it was Putin who said that when the war started which he didn't.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-mille...kraine-sources

No, Putin said two weeks.

And here we are three years later.

Little Putin failed, but he managed to lose 300 billion dollars of the Russian state's money.

[AntonySun1996]

Things are sad enough as it is, how are you guys not making yourselves sadder by arguing about all this war and politics stuff? I sure wish the 'stupid shit in Kyiv' thread was about Ukraine chicks and their crazy antics. Granted, this thread has become like this now because Ukraine was invaded, but still. Even during war there's got to be sex being sold, especially in Kyiv.

Exactly my thought.

Who the fuck would argue about politics all day on a sex forum.

There are too many pussies out there waiting to be fucked for people to waste time on this shit.

[Blood Red]

RE: The bold text, Mark Milley said the same thing, or at least that's what the journalist says in the NYT article that Questner summarized and that Jarango and I linked to. In early 2023, recognizing that Ukraine was in the strongest possible position, he floated the idea that Ukraine should pursue cutting a deal with Russia. As you probably already know, Milley was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the highest military officer in the USA, right under the Secretary of Defense.

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Mark Milley was also the one that said 'Kiev in 3 days' before the invasion. The pathetic fake dishonest western mainstream media then lied and said it was Putin who said that when the war started which he didn't.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-mille...kraine-sources

[Newton York]

Things are sad enough as it is, how are you guys not making yourselves sadder by arguing about all this war and politics stuff? I sure wish the 'stupid shit in Kyiv' thread was about Ukraine chicks and their crazy antics. Granted, this thread has become like this now because Ukraine was invaded, but still. Even during war there's got to be sex being sold, especially in Kyiv.

[Tiny 12]

I see you still haven't tired of coming here day after day giving new meaning to the word wuss while sucking up to every new Russia supporter that crawls out of the woodwork. Sanctions have worked, as they promote deterrence by sending a message on the world stage while making life tougher for bad actors. They aren't just about winning converts or securing regime changes, while you've never made a case for your vague and wishy-washy do nothing and appeasement alternatives.

Hey Paulie, You should visit Cuba and Russia and see for yourself. Cuba is destitute and many Cubans blame sanctions imposed by the USA. I've even heard that from Cuban "political" refugees in America. Russia on the other hand is doing marvelously. There's an article in the WSJ today, For Russias Economy Peace Poses a Threat, that argues the country will take an economic hit if the war stops.

https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/rus...-deal-783b8bdb

As to deterrence, perhaps you have a point, with respect to China for example. But at what cost? Sanctions kill a lot of people. UNICEF estimates over 500,000 Iraqi children died by 1999 because of sanctions. The CEPR attributes 40,000 Venezuelan deaths to USA Sanctions in 2017 and 2018 alone. Many more have died in Iran, Cuba and North Korea.

But, you know, you're right. I shouldn't, as you say, make vague and wishy-washy comments. So I wrote a well-researched essay for you!

WHY SANCTIONS DONT WORK

By The Little Weasle!

Sanctions are widely used as a foreign policy toolimposed to punish aggression, deter nuclear proliferation, or pressure governments into reform. They are often viewed as a less violent alternative to war, allowing nations to signal disapproval and exert influence without direct conflict. But despite their popularity, sanctions rarely deliver on their promises. In fact, they often entrench the very regimes they aim to weaken, while causing widespread suffering among ordinary people.

According to a landmark study by Gary Clyde Hufbauer, Jeffrey Schott, and Kimberly Ann Elliott in their book Economic Sanctions Reconsidered, sanctions are only successful about 30% of the time. That means in 7 out of 10 cases, sanctions fail to produce the desired change in behavior. And that 30% includes many cases where success was partial or achieved in tandem with other forms of pressure, such as military threats or diplomacy.

Take Russia. Since 2014 and especially after the 2022 invasion of Ukraine the West has unleashed a historic barrage of sanctions on Russia: freezing central bank assets, cutting off banks from SWIFT, blocking exports of high-tech goods, and restricting oil revenues. Yet despite the economic damage, Russia continues its war. Far from buckling, the country has reoriented its economy, expanded trade with China and India. They've provided political fuel, as they can be framed as proof of Western hostility, and they've rallied domestic support.

Cuba illustrates how sanctions can become frozen in place despite decades of failure. The USA Embargo, imposed in the early 1960's, has now lasted more than 60 years. It has not ended communist rule or ushered in democracy. What it has done is contribute to economic stagnation, limit access to vital goods, and offer the Cuban government a convenient scapegoat for internal dysfunction. The regime has not collapsedinstead, it adapted, survived, and even built soft power through medical diplomacy and resistance branding.

Iran offers another instructive case. Sanctions have long been used to pressure Iran over its nuclear ambitions and regional behavior. While they arguably helped bring Iran to the negotiating table for the 2015 nuclear deal (JCPOA), the USA Withdrawal from the agreement in 2018 and reimposition of "maximum pressure" sanctions failed to produce a better dealor a change in regime behavior. Instead, Iran resumed uranium enrichment, cracked down domestically, and deepened ties with non-Western powers. The sanctions hurt the Iranian economy, but not enough to break the regime's hold on power.

In Venezuela, sanctions were intended to dislodge Nicols Maduro and support democratic transition. Instead, they helped accelerate an economic meltdown that was already underway. The result wasn't regime change, but mass emigration, humanitarian crisis, and further consolidation of authoritarian rule. Maduro used the sanctions to paint the opposition as collaborators with foreign aggressors, strengthening his narrative and weakening dissent.

These cases aren't anomaliesthey are part of a pattern. Sanctions tend to fail because they rest on flawed assumptions: that pain leads to capitulation, that regimes act in good faith under pressure, and that people suffering under sanctions will rise up and demand change. In reality, authoritarian governments are often most skilled at weathering external threats. They repress opposition, exploit patriotic sentiment, and channel hardship into regime loyalty.

Moreover, the humanitarian impact is profound. Sanctions can lead to inflation, medicine shortages, decaying infrastructure, and a deteriorating quality of lifewithout touching the powerful. They often hurt those least responsible and least able to change the system. And they rarely include effective off-ramps or diplomatic pathways, meaning that once sanctions are imposed, they become politically difficult to lift.

Even when sanctions seem to "work," it's usually because they're paired with credible diplomacy or military leverage, not because of economic pressure alone. Sanctions without strategy become little more than symbolic gesturesmorally satisfying, but practically ineffective.

In short, the historical and empirical record is clear: sanctions fail far more often than they succeed. They have not broken the back of regimes in Cuba, Iran, or Venezuela. They tend to prolong crises, deepen suffering, and rarely produce the political change they promise.

[Tiny 12]

Which of course completely ignores the likely devastating Western military response to any use of tactical nuclear weapons, and generally the fact that Russia isn't the only nuclear country. Nonetheless the West and Ukraine need to just bend over and grab their ankles now while begging Russia not to make it hurt too bad. In fact that's what they all should have done three years ago. Why? Because Tiny, an obsessed little weasel in a hooker forum says so. Damn Ukraine for objecting to the invasion of their country based on myths and distorted history. The same goes for complaining about all the war crimes, as Little Vlad has rattled the nuclear saber and Little Tiny in Stupid Shit insists on a surrender. All will be well, until the next time a little weasel decides to threaten nuclear war.

....you've never made a case for your vague and wishy-washy do nothing and appeasement alternatives.

I may be a globalist, but I'm also a realist. Ukraine's not going to win this war. You, on the other hand, are Slim Pickens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snTaSJk0n_Y

Since I first posted in this thread, in June of 2023, I've been arguing Ukraine should pursue peace, the same advice Mark Milley offered a few months before (see post #4214). As Blood Red correctly argues, Ukraine's position has gotten worse since then.

When did I threaten a nuclear war? You need to get a grip Paulie. I'm merely a poster on a hooker board. I have no control over world events.

[Tiny 12]

I agree. The high point for Ukraine was in Late 2002 when Russia made those tactical withdrawals from Kherson and Kharkov region. That was the best time for the Nazi Kiev regime to have negotiated. Since then it has all been downhill and will continue to be so. And yes, Russia would have used tactical nukes if Crimea was threatened and even if Ukraine had been able to severe the land bridge to Crimea during the now FAILED counter offensive in Summer 2023. And there's no way the USA would have responded back with a nuclear weapon. There's no way that a USA president would risk losing Chicago, NYC or LA for Ukraine. Not going to happen.

RE: The bold text, Mark Milley said the same thing, or at least that's what the journalist says in the NYT article that Questner summarized and that Jarango and I linked to. In early 2023, recognizing that Ukraine was in the strongest possible position, he floated the idea that Ukraine should pursue cutting a deal with Russia. As you probably already know, Milley was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the highest military officer in the USA, right under the Secretary of Defense.

Another takeaway from the article is that the USA Military wanted Ukraine to pursue strategies to get the war over with, be it through peace as suggested by Milley, or through aggressively pushing through to Melitopol or Mariupol when the Ukrainians had the chance. Now, is the latter, actually trying to win the war, a good idea? Given the Russians have the largest nuclear armory in the world, and as you imply was willing to get medieval if backed into a corner, that's debatable. But in any event the American generals were pushing the Ukrainians and the Biden administration to get this over with. The Biden administration, Zelensky and the Ukrainian generals, with one exception (General Zabrodskyi) on the other hand, knowingly or not, appeared intent on drawing the conflict out as long as possible. In your words, fighting this war "to the last Ukrainian. ".

[ShooBree]

Sad to see that putin is getting ready to send 160'000 more russian teenagers to die in Ukraine.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/49935

[ShooBree]

They only reached the first Russian defense belt out of multiple ones during the much-touted failed counter offensive in 2023. Crimea is forever gone, so are the 4 new territories. Better for Ukraine to negotiate seriously now before they lose Odessa, Kharkov, Dnipro and Nikolaev. And tens of thousands of more men, like the EU warmongers want.

Hahaha, Russia can't even fully control the four regions they falsely claimed to be a part of their little nazi Russia. I love that Russia is starting war after war and you are crying because Russia can't win their failed war against Ukraine due to the military support from the Biden administration and the European countries.

The EU doesn't start wars, the EU is even criticized for not spending enough on their military and the people of Russia is suffering because Putin is spending all their money on wars.

It is obvious that no one loves peace more than the European Union.

Little nazi Russia starts wars, little nazi Russia commits war crimes and little nazi Russia refuses to end the war.

Almost 1 million dead Russians and now we see how Putin and Kim have to send North Koreans to die just because Putin suffers from a severe inferiority complex.

Shouldn't Putin deal with the failed Russian economy and the radical Islamization of Dagestan and Chechnya?

Little Putin can't even control his own country.

[Blood Red]

Ukrtane has no chance of taking Crimea. The only thing Ukraine is taking is Western tax payers for a very expensive ride.

They only reached the first Russian defense belt out of multiple ones during the much-touted failed counter offensive in 2023. Crimea is forever gone, so are the 4 new territories. Better for Ukraine to negotiate seriously now before they lose Odessa, Kharkov, Dnipro and Nikolaev. And tens of thousands of more men, like the EU warmongers want.