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04-14-25 00:42 #17911Senior Member

Posts: 273Damned if I'm going to read your spiel for the third time to make sense of your demented ramblings.
Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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Sure, you're a citizen. A third class one. And if your deny it, why don't you mouth off to an American cop like you do here and if you survive we can discuss this further. You say you're in your 60's so you should be familiar with how your people are treated under the "Rule of Law."
Fuck only knows why you're arguing about a blatant fact that your president has literally defied the judiciary.
As for your comment about Mahmud deserving being deported, I think I probably won't be shedding too many tears for you when you're gone after your encounter with the American cop. Patriot.
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04-13-25 23:46 #17910Senior Member

Posts: 7973And yet
With all that supposed "education" as determined by that one Winger-leaning news source, Floridans still knowingly voted for this:
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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How Trumps Tariffs Could Lead to a Global Recession.
April 9, 2025
https://time.com/7275987/trump-tarif...world-impacts/
Perhaps a little less re-reading of "Dick And Jane" over and over again and a little more reading about this would have been useful for the sake of the USA and the rest of the World:
Trump Facts.
64 Times Mentioned In Epstein Report.
97 Times Pleaded The Fifth.
34 Felony Convictions.
91 Criminal Charges.
26 Sexual Assault Allegations.
6 Bankruptcies.
5 Draft Deferments.
4 Indictments.
2 Impeachments.
2 Convicted Companies.
1 Fake University Shut Down.
1 Fake Charity Shut Down.
$25 Million Fraud Settlement.
$5 Million Sexual Abuse Verdict.
$2 Million Fake Charity Abuse Judgment.
$93 Million Sexual Abuse Judgements.
$400+ Million Fraud Judgment.
First President in history to serve a full term increase the deficit every year he was in office.
First President in history to maintain a debt to GDP ratio over 100% for his entire term.
Highest annual budget deficit.
Most added to the national debt in a single term.
Most new unemployment claims.
Largest single day point drop in the history of the Dow.
First major party candidate in half a century to lose the popular vote twice.
Longest government shutdown in history (and he did that while his own party controlled both chambers of Congress).
First President in the history of approval ratings to maintain a net negative approval rating for his entire term.
First President to be impeached twice.
First President to have bipartisan support for his conviction after impeachment (which happened both times).
Most indictments, guilty pleas, and criminal convictions of members of an administration.
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04-13-25 22:24 #17909Senior Member

Posts: 4040You're very very wrong about Scumbag Bubba
The only thing he care about was their votes, he was hoping Wall St and the CCP would reward him with a 3rd maybe even a 4th term if necessary to get TPP pushed thru.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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BTW I have the AMEX Gold card I don't see any benefits with the Platinum for more than double the annual fee $750.
Did you say prestige? Lolol I'm guessing most assume its a silver card, in which case they assume the Gold card is better lolol.
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04-13-25 17:00 #17908Senior Member

Posts: 4832Yeah, I know. That is the problem.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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And didn't I just say that when you ask for links, all you do is trash them. This is the part you are referring to "Florida ranked #1 in the Parent Power Index by the Center for Education Reform. The assessment focuses on alternative pathways and educational choices that parents and students have access to beyond traditional public schools. ".
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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And you completely ignore this: Today, USA News & World Report announced that Florida is again ranked #1 in the nation for education. The publication's Best State ranking is based on a combination of strong performances in higher education and K-12 metrics.
And my explanation for this is you are so delusional with the Dem Good, Republican bad crap that your brain cannot process anything that says otherwise.
And here you go again. New Yori's terrible finances are not due to the Dems running the state. No, it is Trump's fault. And the pandemic that started in China? That is Trump's fault too.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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That is why sending you any links is a waste of time. You just see what you want.
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04-13-25 16:45 #17907Senior Member

Posts: 4832MDS, I think Clinton did care, but what he did completely fucked over the blue collar worker. This is a great piece from a Wall Street guy known for telling the truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvUYsdjHhv8.
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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When Clinton brought China into the WTO, he thought it would increase GDP in the USA, and it did, but he thought that Main Street would benefit and it did not.
And that is what a dumb ass like Spidy does not get. The economy was great under Biden right? Well, if you are in the top 10% of Americans who own 90% or so of the stocks then yeah, Biden was great. If you are in the bottom 50% and are in debt, and interest rates went up under Biden and they ended up paying more, Biden sucked ass, and that is why he lost. It is also why every time Biden mentioned the economy, his poll numbers tanked.
And what was the Democratic douche response to those bottom 50%? You are stupid if you do not see how great Biden is. And with Tooms, this was not an issue. Oh no, it was not the bottom 50% suffering, it was an Arab plot that got Trump elected. Yeesh.
I have SC on ignore because I can predict what he is gong to say before he says it. All he wants is attention and to tell everyone how great he is. So I figured his response to me would be egotistical and it was. I would rather be lucky than good and then tells everyone how smart he is.
I invest based on value. Is something overpriced or not? The Amex platinum is a more prestigious card than Amex gold, and it has been because platinum had traditionally been higher in price, and it should be. Platinum is 30 X rarer than gold.
So I cannot even begin to value gold because the people buying are convinced the world is coming to an end. Why the fuck else would you buy gold that just sits there over an apartment complex or farm or bond which produces income on an annual basis? And why now? The world coming to an end is nothing new and IMO has always been a sucker's bet.
So if you think that, IMO you are an idiot. In fact, the only thing you can do at this point to convince me that you are a bigger idiot is if you think the world is coming to an end is to buy gold at $3000+ an ounce and shun platinum at $900+ an ounce.
And what does SC say about gold? I am buying it up right now and making huge bank. LOL.
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04-13-25 15:52 #17906Senior Member

Posts: 7754HotDog666 does not like the rule of law. Tough!
I don't let visitors tell me what is going on in my country of origin.
If by hero you are giving a complement because I spent the majority of my life under the OATH I took to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States of America from all enemies foreign and domestic. There is no need for that. I was just another CITIZEN in a long line of CITIZENS that came before me that have done the same in order to allow my fellow Americans to sleep peacefully under the blanket of security I that I and many others provided during our watch.
Originally Posted by HotDog666
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The Article 2 leader has NOT defied the Article 3 leader You need to read The Constitution of the United States of America if you unaware of the structure of the government of the Dis-United States of America. You can google it. Send me a PM if you need any additional help understanding it.
Educate yourself my man!
I understand why you are pleading No contest. It is because you have no defense.
Originally Posted by HotDog666
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ng-immigrationThe decision sides with the Trump administrations claim that a short memo written by the secretary of state, Marco Rubio, which stated Khalils current or expected beliefs, statements or associations were counter to foreign policy interests, is sufficient evidence to remove a lawful permanent resident from the United States. The undated memo, the main piece of evidence submitted by the government, contained no allegations of criminal conduct
The Defendant in this case is a guest in the Dis-United Staes of America. All (compound profanity deleted) need to stay in their lane when they are guests. This is something I understand intimately as I have travel extensively. The protections of the Constitution of the United States of America ends once your method of transportation enters international waters. If he was a CITIZEN things would be different as they should be.
The RULE of Law
You don't have to like it, you just have to live with it. If you cannot, don't let the doorknob hit you in the ass on the way out.
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04-13-25 12:16 #17905Senior Member

Posts: 273The point Subcmdr is that he has defied the "RULE OF LAW". Try reading this slowly and let it sink in, maybe you will understand.
Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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You're apparently not up to date on this El Salvadore issue, the govt attorney is refusing to tell the judge whereabouts of this man, contrary to the article you posted, and there are some reports he's actually dead. Even if he isn't the point is that the Govt defied the judiciary and continues to defy the judiciary, so you can take your "rule of law" up your pipe and smoke it, hero.
As for Mahmum Khalil, "rule of law"? Get a fucking grip. I won't dignify this with a reply.
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04-13-25 07:55 #17904Senior Member

Posts: 7973Excellent!
Now, THIS is the kind of Repub Trump economic results his devoted MAGA voters demanded of him all through his campaign rallies and when they rushed to the polling places to vote for him!
Trump tariffs on China will soon mean 'irreversible' damage for USA Businesses.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/12/trum...ndroidappshare
I am going to be very, very disappointed if Repub Trump's Repub MAGA Winger "bothsider / neithersider" supporters and enablers' votes do not produce EXACTLY the economic result everyone in the world knew their votes for him were destined to produce.On Saturday, the Trump administration said it would exempt technology products like the iPhone, PCs and chips from much of the recently imposed Chinese tariffs.
But for most businesses in the U.S., orders from China are being canceled and Chinese freight being shipped could be abandoned.
Without a wider pause in the trade war with China, the damage will soon be irreversible for U.S. businesses, according to a retail expert, including furniture, toys, apparel, footwear, and sports equipment.
MAGA!
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04-12-25 16:01 #17903Senior Member

Posts: 7754In this way! Its called THE RULE OF LAW.
Originally Posted by HotDog666
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Democrocy is messy and is not perfect. But neither is your country HotDog666!
Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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04-12-25 13:58 #17902Senior Member

Posts: 624American Mongers
How many of you international mongers have faced hostilities and faces around the world because of the Orange Clowns Bullshit tariffs to every country? And you MAGAS don't give me that Bull crap that countries around the World have been ripping you off for decades Blasphemy.
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04-12-25 12:46 #17901Senior Member

Posts: 273So the land of the free has almost suceeded in deporting that Mahmud Khalil for the crime of criticising Israel (he has one appeal left after a court validated Trump's order to deport this American resident). Israel controls America. Even if France recognises Palestine, it won't change matters. The zionists are too strong. They will probably punish France for doing so, but regardless they will eradicate the Palestinians, massacring the women and children, and will suppress any dissent by all means including destroying people's livelihoods, jailing them or deporting them. In which way is America a "better" or freeer nation than Russia?
Originally Posted by Sirioja
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04-12-25 06:32 #17900Senior Member

Posts: 7754The Diversity of the United States of America helped when a war!
Did Barry Hussein actually say this?
In the second world war, Navajo code talkers transmitted sensitive USmilitary information in their own undocumented language. Which was nice of them, as their immediate ancestors had been dispossessed and destroyed by white settlers, and then had all their water poisoned with uranium. Were it not for the Navajos, concluded major Howard Connor, at the time, the marines would never have taken Iwo Jima. And that famous photo of the American soldiers raising a flag would just have shown some Japanese boy scouts letting off a party popper.
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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But last month Trumps defence secretary, Pete Hegseth, said: I think the single dumbest phrase in military history is our diversity is our strength. Some Navajo code talkers reputedly had bodyguards to protect them from white American servicemen who thought they were Japanese. Plus a change, as they say over there in that Europe.
The Navajos efforts went unrecognised for several decades. When the son of one of the code talkers got to live the American dream by opening a Burger King in Kayenta on Navajo lands in 1986, he made the building a partial museum of his fathers unit. I visited it 30 years ago, with the comedian Kevin Eldon (Narvi the dwarf smith in TVs The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power), and it remains the most edifying fast food restaurant I ever ate in. It was even better than that KFC near Bletchley Park that does that delicious Alan Turing chicken strips and alphabetti spaghetti meal deal .
Despite the fun-size fascism were seeing across the Atlantic, the woke folk panic still sells papers and farms online engagement
The Kayenta Burger King also has a more extensive archive of code talker artefacts than any official government repository. Especially since, last week, videos, photos and stories of the Navajo code talkers were temporarily removed online as part of Trumps assault on diversity. A page commemorating corporal Ira Hayes, a Pima of the Gila River Indian Community, and one of the servicemen photographed raising that Stars and Stripes at Iwo Jima, also disappeared for a while in Trumps thwarting of the woke.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...hill-to-dei-on
Replacing the Black Joint Chief of staff with a lesser quality White man was a DEI Hire!
Game goes to: Mr. SubCmdr. Your service game Mr. MarquisdeSade1. Make it a good one!
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04-12-25 06:19 #17899Senior Member

Posts: 7754Fact Check (2008
Did Barry Hussein actually say this?
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. " - Lyndon B. Johnson.
Do you need me to quote the 3/5 principle next?
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04-12-25 06:14 #17898Senior Member

Posts: 7754I took an Oath
It was a solemn pledge to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same. I spend most of my adult working life under that oath. I carried a pocket version of the United States Constitution for the entire time I was under oath. Accuse me of a committing a crime. Better be able to back up your Hooker Board accusations. Because they will not stand up in a court of law in the Dis-United States of America.
Speaking of the constitution, POTUS takes a related oath.
Trump has left himself open to a powerful constitutional counterpunch
Trumps government by spite opens an avenue to challenging his score-settling
Aziz Huq, a law professor at the University of Chicago, is the author of The Rule of Law: A Very Short Introduction.
A central premise of many of the unprecedented things that Donald Trump's administration has done was captured by something the president said a few days after his inauguration: "I have certain hatreds of people," he confessed. However many falsehoods he has been accused of uttering, can there be any doubt that this was unalloyed truth?
That truth carries within it a powerful, so-far-neglected legal argument for taking Trump on and it's one that, like his tariffs, could unite left and right in disapproval.
A single, plainly unconstitutional thread ties together many of the second Trump White House's actions thus far. With blazing clarity, ill will has been embraced by this president as a reason for targeting individuals and institutions, even when it's, at best, loosely linked to his policy ambitions. This is a serious legal flaw, yet none of the more than 170 lawsuits and counting filed against the administration lead with it.
Consider the range of actions legible in terms of "hatreds": stripping former aides of security details; rescinding security clearances of perceived enemies; blacklisting law firms with Democratic connections; demanding $400 million from a university that once refused to pay the president. $400 million; and even denying Maine residents the ability to register their children with Social Security numbers because the federal government was "ticked at the governor of Maine for not being real cordial to the president. ".
Most people are familiar with the constitutional axioms against prohibiting speech or discriminating on the basis of race. Less appreciated, however, is the fact that it is unconstitutional to act against a person or an institution out of simple malice or indeed for no reason at all. Under our Constitution, the government must be motivated by law, not hatred or caprice.
This is, moreover, a constitutional principle that finds expressions beyond the lonely dissents of the Supreme Court's liberal minority. Quite the contrary: It is one that a unanimous Supreme Court, including its most conservative members, has championed.
The central precedent was decided a quarter-century ago. It arose out of mundane, even tedious, facts. Thaddeus and Grace Olech had a history of disagreements with the village of Willowbrook, Illinois, where they lived. Their conflicts came to a head in the village's demand that they cede up a 33-foot easement rather than the standard 15 to connect to the municipal water supply. This was hardly the stuff of constitutional crises, yet the Olechs argued that the demand was "irrational and wholly arbitrary" and so violated the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.
They took their dispute all the way to the nation's high court, where the justices unanimously agreed with them. The Constitution, explained the court, shielded the Olechs from "intentional and arbitrary discrimination," even if all that was at stake was 18 feet of easement.
Eight years later, the court affirmed Olech. In an opinion by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. That went against the Oregon Department of Agriculture, all the conservative justices condemned "arbitrary government classification" as at odds with the constitutional order. Over the dissent of three liberal justices, however, Roberts declined to extend Olech to government employees. When the government acts as an employer, he said, officials cannot avoid making subjective and individualized decisions. But when it acts as an "arm's-length" regulator, Roberts warned, the Olech rule against arbitrary decision-making applied with full force.
That prohibition on arbitrary governmental action, and in particular government actions motivated by spite or ill will, applies not just to states but also to the federal government. And it throws into grave constitutional doubt many of the Trump administration's targeting decisions.
In many of those cases, I suspect that the new administration's actions could be successfully shown to rest on no more than caprice or ill will. Of course, federal lawyers will gin up reasons to shield what in fact are arbitrary decisions. Rare are instances in which an official so candidly admits that he endangered newborn infants because he was "ticked" about a governor's manners. The government may persuade the court that some of its actions have some rational basis, which is the relevant test. Trump's tariffs, for example, may well be economically irrational, but they are unlikely to be struck down on that ground simply because judges aren't comfortable second-guessing equations. But, in many other cases, based on the abundant evidence of these past 11 weeks, I suspect the government's proffered reasons can convincingly be shown to be a sham.
Yet the lawyers driving the anti-Trump litigation seem to have missed this equal protection claim. Why? It could be that many were brought up in the left-liberal traditions of the ACLU and the NAACP, while challenges to the arbitrariness of administrative action have long been a staple of the libertarian right. And decisions such as Olech, challenging local property assessments, are seldom discussed in such circles because they advance property owners' interests rather than those of vulnerable minorities. Cases such as Olech are oddities, not canon.
Whatever the reason, this failure to center the anti-arbitrariness principle in the recent constitutional litigation strikes me as a strategic error. Many such claims may founder on evidentiary grounds. But the anti-arbitrariness principle is surely one that will resonate with a broad public.
Most Americans agree that the awesome power of the state should not be used for fickle or malign reasons. Driving out arbitrary whim, and its cousin "hatred," from the government's lexicon is surely a goal that all, of whatever political hue, can agree upon. The absence of this argument from the litigation means we don't even have a full airing of the arguments and facts about abuses of power that appear to be running rampant in plain sight.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...urt-challenge/
If you step to The Cmdr, you better bring your mother fucking A game or watch the weak ass shit you throw up get rejected like you see in a NBA highlight reel!
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04-12-25 00:35 #17897Senior Member

Posts: 1960Picking the pockets of gullible MAGA...
When Elvis 2008, is constantly trying to flex his so called "business acumen", I'm always reminded of his Carnac the Magnificent schtick, recession predictions and his Red Lobster bankruptcy takes, as epic cautionary tales, as to why anyone would even think to consider, let alone entertain his wrongheaded business advice, much like his MAGA Fuhrer's 6x bankruptcy filings and his current nonsensical hard-on for tariffs.
Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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Elvis 2008's own "killer business acumen", has consistently failed to predict the recession (he was so eagerly hoping for, time and time again), despite a very strong and booming Biden administration's economy. Only to end up, in the end, eating crow, while Biden's economy, added 16+ million jobs, produced the longest run of unemployment, outpaced all world global economic peers and had all-time stock market highs and gains.
Then there was my fav, where Elvis 2008 doubled down on more bad takes, claiming Red Lobster's bankruptcy was because of "a bad Biden economy" and "people having no money" to spend at restaurants, rather than the plainly obvious, with terrible business management, endless shrimp deals, and the pernicious nature of private equity vultures, bleeding the company dry.
But like most gullible MAGA folks, that just refuse to admit when they're embarrassingly wrong, unfortunately can't help themselves. As they spout their right-wing MAGA culture-wars and propaganda, their billionaire robber barons and corporate overlords, easily pick their pockets.
I think, Lyndon B. Johnson, said it best:
The MAGA Fuhrer's billionaire robber barons, corporate overlords, bootlickers, hanger-ons and sycophants, from all accounts, are proceeding nicely, at picking America's pockets and divvying up the spoils.If you can convince the lowest white man, he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice when you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. ― Lyndon B. Johnson

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