Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[BeachDrone]

I don't think BBFS has ever been part of the PSE definition, but what do you consider PSE? If it's mainly the addition of anal, I think you might be more happy if you go to one of more common sex shops (mango, full moon, wonder, etc.) and tell the receptionist to show you the girls willing to do anal. Most shops will probably have at least one or two who will agree for some extra pay, and chances are they will be younger and prettier than at the "PSE"-shops.

Hmmm. I always thought PSE mostly included BBFS. Maybe I'm wrong. If it only includes anal, not interested. Just not my thing. Older ladies that are PSE including BBFS, that's my interest. (And on my last visit to the Kingdom, BBFS was certainly available.)
So, as Werqweq asked, what do you consider PSE?

[Werqweq]

Hey everyone,

I've been in Bangkok for some time and I've mostly dealt with freelancers. Based on all the posts I've read, I'm curious to experience this "PSE" that everyone is talking about. I noticed that the PSE provider Tulip seems to have dropped in quality.

Is there a place you guys would recommend, for a first time PSE? I can't do BBFS but would like to try anal at least.

Ideally I'd like to goto a place with younger girls; basically not old ladies (40+). I've had too many instances of photoshopped pictures online, that have resulted in me having to deal with someone whom I thought would look better.

Greatly appreciate your help and advice!

I don't think BBFS has ever been part of the PSE definition, but what do you consider PSE? If it's mainly the addition of anal, I think you might be more happy if you go to one of more common sex shops (mango, full moon, wonder, etc.) and tell the receptionist to show you the girls willing to do anal. Most shops will probably have at least one or two who will agree for some extra pay, and chances are they will be younger and prettier than at the "PSE"-shops.

[Newton York]

Hey everyone,

I've been in Bangkok for some time and I've mostly dealt with freelancers. Based on all the posts I've read, I'm curious to experience this "PSE" that everyone is talking about. I noticed that the PSE provider Tulip seems to have dropped in quality.

Is there a place you guys would recommend, for a first time PSE? I can't do BBFS but would like to try anal at least.

Ideally I'd like to goto a place with younger girls; basically not old ladies (40+). I've had too many instances of photoshopped pictures online, that have resulted in me having to deal with someone whom I thought would look better.

Greatly appreciate your help and advice!

Apparently places like Butterfly, Princess, etc. Have girls that offer that. It's a group of 3 or 4 massage joints that have very similar style websites, very obviously run by the same people, wouldn't surprise me if they shuffle the girls around the 4 places. Without a VPN, the websites won't work in some countries, like here in the States I can't see it.

Here's the address, google it for more info:

3/1 Sukhumvit Rd, Khlong Tan, Khlong Toei, Bangkok 10110, Thailand.

[Koryu]

Hey everyone,

I've been in Bangkok for some time and I've mostly dealt with freelancers. Based on all the posts I've read, I'm curious to experience this "PSE" that everyone is talking about. I noticed that the PSE provider Tulip seems to have dropped in quality.

Is there a place you guys would recommend, for a first time PSE? I can't do BBFS but would like to try anal at least.

Ideally I'd like to goto a place with younger girls; basically not old ladies (40+). I've had too many instances of photoshopped pictures online, that have resulted in me having to deal with someone whom I thought would look better.

Greatly appreciate your help and advice!

[Zam007]

What are the best massage parlors near soi cowboy or more specifically Hotel Carlton? Really hope once checked in, to get into it quickly. Also I've looked at some massage parlors that had websites / reviews that said they accept credit card. Is that safe or only use cash? In general what is everyone's thoughts (soapy, beer bars, gogo bar, etc) on credit cards?

Never use credit or debit cards in these places.

Just pay cash have a good time.

[Newton York]

What are the best massage parlors near soi cowboy or more specifically Hotel Carlton? Really hope once checked in, to get into it quickly. Also I've looked at some massage parlors that had websites / reviews that said they accept credit card. Is that safe or only use cash? In general what is everyone's thoughts (soapy, beer bars, gogo bar, etc) on credit cards?

I'd say never use your credit card in any of these places. But that's just me. Whether it's a soapie, oilie, girlie bar, or any kind of establishment like that, I'd say just use cash. Cash is still very much king in Thailand. No way to trace it back to you. No fraud possible. You pay, services are rendered, and then you split. Easy peasy, lemon squeazy. Why risk any kind of information or overpayment via a credit card?

[HorseTrader]

Yeah, you are probably right about that. If all you want is a HJ, and you're not too shy about asking in front of others, asking something like "can do special also?" beforehand is a lot easier.

I've had the opposite problem in various small shops throughout Thailand. If I ask for "oil massage, no special" or "foot massage only", I sometimes get refused. Responses are sometimes "only do special massage" or "Will call freelancer to give foot massage." This includes places with the prices for standard massages posted on signs. Of course, the nicer places do massages without special, it's the little, sometimes grungy shops that might insist on special.

[Werqweq]

To avoid this, wasting your time and preventing disappointment, it is best to ask the ladies sitting at the front "massage and special?" if they say no, move to the shop next door.

Yeah, you are probably right about that. If all you want is a HJ, and you're not too shy about asking in front of others, asking something like "can do special also?" beforehand is a lot easier.

[NicFrenchy]

What are the best massage parlors near soi cowboy or more specifically Hotel Carlton? Really hope once checked in, to get into it quickly. Also I've looked at some massage parlors that had websites / reviews that said they accept credit card. Is that safe or only use cash? In general what is everyone's thoughts (soapy, beer bars, gogo bar, etc) on credit cards?

I never use credit cards in these places but also never heard of any foul play so I guess it's your call.

From the Carlton, I would say the closest massage (and I assume by best you mean for sex) is DOKI DOKI soi 31 (3 mn walk).

https://dokidokibangkok.com/girls/

[TConor]

So you thought the price was bad, but you agreed to it anyway?

I'm a regular there, never had a shortage of girls. Did you go during Songkran or something?

I my opinion with the limited selection I went else where. I have seen good reviews before, just not in my wheel house.

[Rick Rock]

I totally disagree, 2 k for 40 min. 1 shot? Great deal - 555. I found them to be clock watches and 80% of the pictured ladies are not there.

So you thought the price was bad, but you agreed to it anyway?

I'm a regular there, never had a shortage of girls. Did you go during Songkran or something?

[NicFrenchy]

worst case scenario is she will say "cannot" or similar

To avoid this, wasting your time and preventing disappointment, it is best to ask the ladies sitting at the front "massage and special?" if they say no, move to the shop next door.

[Werqweq]

Only just noticed your response. Thanks.

I've been to a couple of places near Asok MTR station but no offer of extras. Will head down Sukhumvit Alley 22 later. Thanks!

Virtually all shops in that area will agree to give you a simple HJ for an extra tip, but many will not take the initiative.

If they don't take the initiative, once you've rolled on to your back, when she's massaging the upper part of your legs, gently and slowly, put your hand on her hand. Wait a second or two, and as long as she does not pull her hand away in revulsion, proceed to, equally gently and slowly, nudge her hand towards your dick while giving her a wink and a smile if you like. Do all of this very gently, slowly, and softly, so she has ample of time to pull away if she's one of the very few in that area who is not interested in some extra money for a HJ.

As long as you're not a complete idiot, worst case scenario is she will say "cannot" or similar. Much more likely, she'll whisper "how much you give me? Just hold up five fingers to indicate 500, and that should be accepted by almost everyone for a simple HJ. Perhaps you can even negotiate it down to 300 too if you care. No need to tip anything more for the massage itself afterwards, if you've already paid for the "extra".

From a pricewise standpoint, it's always best to wait for her to offer the extras of course, but sometimes you need to be the one taking the initiative and make it clear what you want. Some of the girls may still be shy about taking the initiative, and some may even worry about getting an idiot customer who will complain about the offer.

[Doggus]

Many massage shops in Sukhumvit 22 (not the notorious nuru ones) will do that. Walk in and talk to the cashier / manager, tell her you want massage and Chuck-wow (or gesture hand). She will assign a girl that will do this. What you don't want is to go to these places and end up with the girl that does not offer any "special". (Some shops forbid it, but they know it happens).

Only just noticed your response. Thanks.

I've been to a couple of places near Asok MTR station but no offer of extras. Will head down Sukhumvit Alley 22 later. Thanks!

[NicFrenchy]

You are contradicting yourself there slightly, you are successful with the dating sites, but easier to visit a MP. Just have an exit strategy ready when the girl arrives at your hotel or condo, tell up at the start, you need to work later or will be getting up dead early to go travelling. Some story in case you want to ditch her. I do agree after a couple of hours they become like clingy kids especially when they start getting hungry. I can't be doing with having to feed them, at that point it's here is a tip to buy yourself some food on your way home!

I don't see a contradiction at all, you will have to be more specific.

And, my point was that it's a lot easier to deal with P4P then to pull girls off of dating site, it's not hard to comprehend really, especially if you've dealt with regular girls.

I have been here over 2 decades (most my reviews are way too old to still be featured here) and with the growth of Dating sites (Tinder 100% for me) I've pulled Singaporeans, Taiwanese, Koreans, Philippines. And they are NOT going to come to your place, you have to put in the work to get them. My issue is once you get them there, it's equally as hard to get them to let go of you (contrary to Thai girls, they don't keep other guys on speed dial, to my experience anyway).

Thai girls are on another level, if you think the above were hard, Thais are more difficult, they make stories in their own heads, stalk your socials like crazy, post on them. Make a real drama about absolutely everything. Too much work and I am now too old to play these games.

Which is why I much prefer to mess with P4P, we both agree what each other wants out of this.