Jakarta

[Hung Man 1808]

During my search for a vaccine clinic I ended going very far into South Jakarta on a gojek that costed like 80 k and took like 60+ minutes to get me to the destination. The area was called Cibubur and I believe its in South Jakarta.

Wow anymore south and you'll be seeing penguins and snow. That's quite a bit further down from where I'd expect specialist care to be found (Kemang and Pondok Indah spring to mind here). Quite possibly you even avoided going down Surdiman and into the SCBD area to get on the tollway to head down to Cibubur. You possibly went East and then down. So much if not all of what I detailed you may not have seen.

If you haven't been past Grand Indonesia, Plaza Indonesia, Hyatt and the big fountain in the middle of the roundabout that many foreign journalists like to do Jakarta news coverage from, you wouldn't have seen any of the train lines / overpasses I mentioned. For a change I'd suggest doing just that. It will be eye opening compared to the North. Do the busway running down Hayam Waruk to the South for a more scenic view to start. At Blok M you can catch the MRT, after a bit of walking to get to the elevated station. Then go to the last stop and busway a trip up to Pondok Indah and Gandaria malls and see how the other half (or 1%) live. Can even stop off at Mr. Braid across the road from Gandaria mall. Loop back through Senayan on the busway and MRT it back to Plaza Indonesia and busway it home. There's a solid day and night for you.

And get a BCA Flazz card at an Indomaret or Alphamart and put maybe 50 k on it. You can tag on and off the buses, trains etc with it. Also suitable for paying tollway charges. Not that I think you use that! Also useful for the train line to cut your walking up to Lokasari. Go south to Gambir station and busway over to Sarinah and then down the Surdiman busway. So many possibilities to be stared at by locals wondering why you've gone native on public transport. Actually, they don't even seem to do that nowdays. Bule aren't a novelty, or rock stars, or both, anymore.

Actually, you'll need the card for the MRT. First time I went to use it, I tried to figure out how to pay cash to get onboard, like I used to on the busway. The assistant saw me, and helpfully guided me over... to the station exit! Because foreigners shouldn't be using this stuff. Took a while to a) figure out I needed the card, and b) find one to buy and load. Once done, pretty easy to tag on and off all over public transport in Jakarta, and recharge at Indomarets etc.

I ended up eating at a local Indonesian food restaurant there called Bakso Podomoro where I tried Iga Bakar and Bakso soup for the first time.

Unless there are a heap of copycat restaurants, google says you ate at a branch of a restaurant chain. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

[Pk099]

Is Walmart really cheaper?.

I got 30 pills of 100 MG Sildenafil for 14.99 at Costco last week.

[Safado70]

I've got a response from Sari. It's different girls with a different service. No pool time, you go straight to the room. Currently there are only 3 of them. There is no minimum tip for them.

[Boris1047]

Hey G, what is your plan after Indo. Are you giving up on Colombia? I find myself going to Cali more than to Meddy nowadays due to costs and general gringo vibe.

Thank you for your detailed information on the different passenger rail systems in Jakarta. I mainly stay in the Pasar Baru area (Sawah Besar) and also frequent the Mangga Besar are as well. However one time I believe I did go south of Monas. Last year when I was here in November and December I seeked out a clinic that would give me the BCG Tuberculosis Vaccine (because I had sex with a Thai prostitute in Pattaya in September who told me she had recently recovered from Pulmonary Tuberculosis). During my search for a vaccine clinic I ended going very far into South Jakarta on a gojek that costed like 80 k and took like 60+ minutes to get me to the destination. The area was called Cibubur and I believe its in South Jakarta. I ended up eating at a local Indonesian food restaurant there called Bakso Podomoro where I tried Iga Bakar and Bakso soup for the first time. I wrote a report on the restaurant with pictures in the Jakarta Restaurants section in December. Great food and I highly recommend if you are ever in the area. Aging thank you for your detailed explanation of the different rail systems.

[Safado70]

I just saw papasan David's story and they have a new S level girls at 650 k. Does anyone know anything about that? David didn't reply to my message.

I don't think these are different girls. It's a different service. Maybe just massage?

[LetMeIn6969]

I just saw papasan David's story and they have a new S level girls at 650 k. Does anyone know anything about that? David didn't reply to my message.

[Gabacho]

The big construction zone in the middle of Hayam Waruk (and strangely enough not seemingly replacing the cess pool that's apparently for drainage) is where those stations will be, as an extension of the MRT starting at the end of Jl Fatmawati and ending next to Plaza Indonesia. This has been operating for about 4 years or so now. There is also the elevated 'light rail' running up / down Rasuna Said and then following the tollway southward 'running' for a few years now. Featuring the slowest corner in the history of mankind when it started - 5 minutes to go round it. Yes, I timed it from the windows of my hotel.

Just out of curiosity. Have you ventured further south in Jakarta than Monas? As these should be apparent if you have. The amount of overpasses for roads, busways and the trains mentioned above built in the last decade is a major step change in traffic flow to the Jakarta of old. By old, I mean ten years or so back. 3 hours to get from Kunigan to Senayan was basically BAU. I was shocked to experience free flowing traffic down Rasuna Said a few years ago all day everyday. It used to BE a literal parking lot.

For reference, the Mangga Besar area (or let's just summarise it as 'Stadium') used to be the end of the night destination after bar / club crawling in the South, or as a quick stopover to a venue for a bit of play late afternoon / early evening. Pretty much all those are gone, leaving Travel / Classic / Lokasari area street in the North and CJs / BATS in the South (at a pinch, My Bar at Faletan too though more as a living museum piece now) as the last remaining elements of a by gone era. The good ol' days of splurging big time on a SilverBird Toyota Crown all night parked at call for you and your 'guests' for about 10 USD as you bounced between 5 or so venues per night. And then hit Stadium. Ah, memories. Though some can still be made, maybe not as frequently (and certainly not as cheaply) as possible in the naughties.

Hmm, the naughties. I'm referring to the decade, though it equally applies to the girls met back then!

Thank you for your detailed information on the different passenger rail systems in Jakarta. I mainly stay in the Pasar Baru area (Sawah Besar) and also frequent the Mangga Besar are as well. However one time I believe I did go south of Monas. Last year when I was here in November and December I seeked out a clinic that would give me the BCG Tuberculosis Vaccine (because I had sex with a Thai prostitute in Pattaya in September who told me she had recently recovered from Pulmonary Tuberculosis). During my search for a vaccine clinic I ended going very far into South Jakarta on a gojek that costed like 80 k and took like 60+ minutes to get me to the destination. The area was called Cibubur and I believe its in South Jakarta. I ended up eating at a local Indonesian food restaurant there called Bakso Podomoro where I tried Iga Bakar and Bakso soup for the first time. I wrote a report on the restaurant with pictures in the Jakarta Restaurants section in December. Great food and I highly recommend if you are ever in the area. Aging thank you for your detailed explanation of the different rail systems.

-Gabacho.

From what I understand, the Jakarta railway and the Jakarta MRT are two separate metro systems. The Jakarta railway is like a regular railway. I am pretty sure I have seen freight trains on those various lines as well.

The Jakarta MRT is a mass rapid transit system only, powered by overhead catenary. Right now the MRT only goes from somewhere way south in Jakarta and ends at Bundaran HI. This is where Plaza Indonesia and the Hotel Indonesia Kempinski are.

The Jakarta MRT is being expanded from Bundaran HI until Monas (2027) and then eventually all the way to Stasiun Jakarta Kota (2028) and Ancol (2032). Other stops along the way will be Harmoni, Sawah Besar, Mangga Besar and Glodok. Some of these stations share the same name because they are named by area. But they are entirely separate stations on different metro systems. These are new underground stations being constructed under Jalan Hayam Wuruk / Gajah Mada. That street is a little west of the Jakarta railway line in your pictures, but parallel to it. If you take Mangga Besar all the way west until it ends, you should see the construction of the stations.

Point your grab to Malio Hotel/Malioboro Club/Malio Lounge & Club for an even more expensive session than Emporium if you take one of the dancers in the club or the imports and you will definitely see the construction.

You will be able to transfer from the Jakarta MRT (underground) to the Jakarta railway (above ground) at Stasiun Jakarta Kota near Kota Tua.

BTW. Bundaran HI means Roundabout Hotel Indonesia, if anyone was curious.

Thank you, NoGermaphobe for breaking that down for me, I'm used to cities having one Metro system such as in Mexico City and Medellin. I didn't realize there were multiple different systems each with there own lines. There are actually at least three separte Metro systems by the way, I looked it up last night. There is the MRT which is the newest Metro that is the one you mentioned and is the newest one and is currently being built. And yes I have seen the construction on Gajah Mada, I actually have been over there on a gojek many times and I have video footage of it as well. Gajah Mada is a mess with tonnes for macet (traffic) no matter what time of day and I prefer to avoid that street if possible.

Anyways so back to the rail systems, there are currently at least 3 different systems from what I can tell from my Wikipedia reading last night, the MRT, the LRT (which you also mentioned), and the KRL Commuter Line. So the Mangga Besar station and Sawah Besar station are on the KRL Metro Sytem which is the oldest of the three systems.

I believe it has lines that run all the way south to Bogor and also East to Bekasi and West to Tangerang. These are the red and white train cars on the elevated rail lines that can be seen near Classic and Travel and the station pictures I posted in my previous post were of this Metro the KRL not the MRT or LRT.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRL_Commuterline

The LRT is a separate system with only one line that runs from Velodrome station to Pengangsaan station, according to Wikipedia. Also the LRT is also currently under construction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakarta_LRT

Finally the MRT is the third and newest Metro system in Jakarta that will have the underground stations along Gajah Mada. This system has a limited functionality currently but will be quite expansive once it is completed in the 2030's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakarta_MRT

-Gabacho.

Si, just enter the name of the meds into Goodrx and shop around, it's going to display bunch of pharmacies in your Zip. No need for any kind of paid membership, it's a free site producing coupon codes for you to show at retail pharmacy you choose upon pick up. It's funny, sometimes GoodRx is even cheaper than my insurance copays for some of the meds.

Thanks for MRT Jakarta info, it's so hard to find out online what is up and running and what is under construction. I never had a chance to ride MRT as I stayed close enough to Classic, just took Transjakarta bus # 5 twice I think.

Thanks for all the info and keep up good work bro!

Actually its not called MRT its called the KRL, still a Metro nonetheless. I may have mispoken when I said MRT station (See the above information).

-Gabacho.

[Hung Man 1808]

So you're saying there are two different metro systems, one above ground and a new one below ground and they share the same stations?

Because OP said the stations I had mentioned previously (mangga besar and Sawah Besar) showed as "under construction. "

If that is the case that sounds pretty cool. Will you be able to transfer between the two different train systems, at the stations where they overlap?

Gabacho.

The big construction zone in the middle of Hayam Waruk (and strangely enough not seemingly replacing the cess pool that's apparently for drainage) is where those stations will be, as an extension of the MRT starting at the end of Jl Fatmawati and ending next to Plaza Indonesia. This has been operating for about 4 years or so now. There is also the elevated 'light rail' running up / down Rasuna Said and then following the tollway southward 'running' for a few years now. Featuring the slowest corner in the history of mankind when it started - 5 minutes to go round it. Yes, I timed it from the windows of my hotel.

Just out of curiosity. Have you ventured further south in Jakarta than Monas? As these should be apparent if you have. The amount of overpasses for roads, busways and the trains mentioned above built in the last decade is a major step change in traffic flow to the Jakarta of old. By old, I mean ten years or so back. 3 hours to get from Kunigan to Senayan was basically BAU. I was shocked to experience free flowing traffic down Rasuna Said a few years ago all day everyday. It used to BE a literal parking lot.

For reference, the Mangga Besar area (or let's just summarise it as 'Stadium') used to be the end of the night destination after bar / club crawling in the South, or as a quick stopover to a venue for a bit of play late afternoon / early evening. Pretty much all those are gone, leaving Travel / Classic / Lokasari area street in the North and CJs / BATS in the South (at a pinch, My Bar at Faletan too though more as a living museum piece now) as the last remaining elements of a by gone era. The good ol' days of splurging big time on a SilverBird Toyota Crown all night parked at call for you and your 'guests' for about 10 USD as you bounced between 5 or so venues per night. And then hit Stadium. Ah, memories. Though some can still be made, maybe not as frequently (and certainly not as cheaply) as possible in the naughties.

Hmm, the naughties. I'm referring to the decade, though it equally applies to the girls met back then!

[Jimmyzhu]

Does anyone know any cashback credit / debit cards that can be used in those establishments such as classic / travel /1001?

I was thinking of using the trading212 card, also do I presume contactless payment is available?

(Sorry if this is a repost).

[NoGermaphobe]

From what I understand, the Jakarta railway and the Jakarta MRT are two separate metro systems. The Jakarta railway is like a regular railway. I am pretty sure I have seen freight trains on those various lines as well.

The Jakarta MRT is a mass rapid transit system only, powered by overhead catenary. Right now the MRT only goes from somewhere way south in Jakarta and ends at Bundaran HI. This is where Plaza Indonesia and the Hotel Indonesia Kempinski are.

The Jakarta MRT is being expanded from Bundaran HI until Monas (2027) and then eventually all the way to Stasiun Jakarta Kota (2028) and Ancol (2032). Other stops along the way will be Harmoni, Sawah Besar, Mangga Besar and Glodok. Some of these stations share the same name because they are named by area. But they are entirely separate stations on different metro systems. These are new underground stations being constructed under Jalan Hayam Wuruk / Gajah Mada. That street is a little west of the Jakarta railway line in your pictures, but parallel to it. If you take Mangga Besar all the way west until it ends, you should see the construction of the stations.

Point your grab to Malio Hotel/Malioboro Club/Malio Lounge & Club for an even more expensive session than Emporium if you take one of the dancers in the club or the imports and you will definitely see the construction.

You will be able to transfer from the Jakarta MRT (underground) to the Jakarta railway (above ground) at Stasiun Jakarta Kota near Kota Tua.

BTW. Bundaran HI means Roundabout Hotel Indonesia, if anyone was curious.

So you're saying there are two different metro systems, one above ground and a new one below ground and they share the same stations?

Because OP said the stations I had mentioned previously (mangga besar and Sawah Besar) showed as "under construction. "

If that is the case that sounds pretty cool. Will you be able to transfer between the two different train systems, at the stations where they overlap?

Gabacho.

[Boris1047]

Si, just enter the name of the meds into Goodrx and shop around, it's going to display bunch of pharmacies in your Zip. No need for any kind of paid membership, it's a free site producing coupon codes for you to show at retail pharmacy you choose upon pick up. It's funny, sometimes GoodRx is even cheaper than my insurance copays for some of the meds.

Thanks for MRT Jakarta info, it's so hard to find out online what is up and running and what is under construction. I never had a chance to ride MRT as I stayed close enough to Classic, just took Transjakarta bus # 5 twice I think.

Thanks for all the info and keep up good work bro!

Is Walmart really cheaper?

My first 2 refills of tadalafil I got at CVS which was a ripoff at $17 for 30 pills of 5 MG tadalafil then I found out about Costco and switched it to there and refilled my other 6 x 30 at Costco for $12.99 each.

I have heard of GoodRx but haven't attempted to use it before, don't you have to pay for that to join and then you get a reduced price for your prescriptions?

For me all my other stuff besides tadalafil and Sildenafil are covered by insurance so I don't know that I would use GoodRx enough to make a huge difference versus the Costco price.

And I can confirm that the Sawah Besar and Mangga Besar Metro stations are open and functioning. I drive past them literally everyday on a gojek or grab bike and see tons of people at both stations. I just took some video from the moto I was riding on as the train was pulling into mangga besar station and you can see people going up the escalator to the platforms.

The Sawah Besar station is within walking distance of Classic and the mangga besar station is within walking distance of Travel for those of you who may be curious to attempt using the public transportation instead of the Motorbikes or Bluebirds / Grab / etc.

Hope this info helps.

[Sriraj91]

Yeah. Ha. You take 80 MG your dick ain't ever coming down. If of course you don't die first. Def playing w fire here.

I don't know this is the first time I bought these tablets, just got them out of curiosity.

It was 2 am outside classic, had two threesomes and drank too much so clearly I was out of my mind when I bought them LOL.

Erections were strong and lasted three days. So bad idea indeed.

[NoGermaphobe]

Pretty sure the OP interpreted what you originally described, as the subway (MRT) system currently under construction in North Jakarta instead of the above ground Jakarta railway system that has been running for years.

And I guess technically part of the new MRT system is above ground. The North-South line extension for the MRT is currently under construction is that is why Hayum Wuruk and Gadah Mada is all torn up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North%..._(Jakarta_MRT)

The Mangga Besar Station on the Jakarta Railway line opened in 1992.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangga...ailway_station

[Gabacho]

Pretty sure the OP interpreted what you originally described, as the subway (MRT) system currently under construction in North Jakarta instead of the above ground Jakarta railway system that has been running for years.

So you're saying there are two different metro systems, one above ground and a new one below ground and they share the same stations?

Because OP said the stations I had mentioned previously (mangga besar and Sawah Besar) showed as "under construction. "

If that is the case that sounds pretty cool. Will you be able to transfer between the two different train systems, at the stations where they overlap?

Gabacho.

[NoGermaphobe]

Pretty sure the OP interpreted what you originally described, as the subway (MRT) system currently under construction in North Jakarta instead of the above ground Jakarta railway system that has been running for years.

Confirmed as of 03 June 2025 at 5:45 pm.

This is the mangga besar station.

I took these pics as I passed by on a moto.

Gabacho.