Jakarta

[Gaijin Gigolo]

I think your right. 50 k is about the real cost of a ride if she's not too far. Typically scammers ask for multiples of the true cost. Eg: I'm in the Philippines now and a girl just asked me to send her 'only' P500 upfront for a P18 trike ride to come and see me.

G.

Wo www...she really though she could find somebody dumb enough to pay that?? LOL!

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Yes I too had a horror experience in Jakarta and other parts in Bali. Basically number 1 rule. No deposit. Don't got to mini mart in ATMs doing money transfers or going to ATMs to do transfer deposits as tempting to secure your booking.

If this indeed is a legitimate lady or scammer you loose all control, your basically are controlled by 'them' and obviously on the way to loose your deposit money. Do a search of numbers to see if any clues come up different photos or impossible that they would be in two places at same time eg Jakarta / Bali

In my case I went to their hotel I did not pay a deposit waited outside sent photos of the hotel and cash in my hand and 'they' told me no deal as I wouldn't deposit 500 k to secure my place with this hot girl!!! I suspect it was either a scammer or some ugly girl posing as a nice girl knowing that she wouldn't be getting her pay day hence I wasted 3hrs of messages and walking around.

This happened both in Jakarta and Bali. My tip is video call, see if their real, don't deposit unless your willing to loose both control & your hard earned cash, I rather stay near BlokM or near classic hotel as opposed to trying to figure out who's real and who's fake. If you had success on Michat, well done, keep the app on your phone, for me it was a lesson in time wasted. But money kept.

That's not a Michat thing, that's a you thing. NEVER send a deposit for a girl anytime, anywhere. And as I said before as well, always insist on a brief video call, even if it's a girl you've seen previously.

[HarryReams]

Yes I too had a horror experience in Jakarta and other parts in Bali. Basically number 1 rule. No deposit. Don't got to mini mart in ATMs doing money transfers or going to ATMs to do transfer deposits as tempting to secure your booking.

If this indeed is a legitimate lady or scammer you loose all control, your basically are controlled by 'them' and obviously on the way to loose your deposit money. Do a search of numbers to see if any clues come up different photos or impossible that they would be in two places at same time eg Jakarta / Bali

In my case I went to their hotel I did not pay a deposit waited outside sent photos of the hotel and cash in my hand and 'they' told me no deal as I wouldn't deposit 500 k to secure my place with this hot girl!!! I suspect it was either a scammer or some ugly girl posing as a nice girl knowing that she wouldn't be getting her pay day hence I wasted 3hrs of messages and walking around.

This happened both in Jakarta and Bali. My tip is video call, see if their real, don't deposit unless your willing to loose both control & your hard earned cash, I rather stay near BlokM or near classic hotel as opposed to trying to figure out who's real and who's fake. If you had success on Michat, well done, keep the app on your phone, for me it was a lesson in time wasted. But money kept.

For me Michat did not work very well.

I stay mainly to the south west of Jakarta center (Kebayoran Lama area, close to Block M) and the traffic there is not very good quality-wise.

I have seen hundreds of ugly girls and a few ok ones in the search nearby feature.

Pretty much every single account with a pretty girl is either a scammer, sells vcs (adult videos) or outright tries to get some form of deposit from you.

I usually ask the girls with unclear face or body to send more photos, and invariably they either send different photos from the girl, or disappear, or you realise they are ugly.

After going through hundreds of profiles I managed to arrange 2 meetings so far, both in their hotel (thankfully both places were very close to me).

Of course, I haven't done video calling confirmation and it bit me in the ass. Now I know better.

The 1st turned out to be bait and switch (waited 15 minutes in the lobby), so I left.

The 2nd turned out to be a scammer that as soon as she confirmed I am sitting in the hotel waiting, sent me details to send her 100 K online first with some bullshit excuse that she can't meet until transaction is complete. (She was actually quite smart to get me to the hotel, as she posted a lot of clear photos of the girl and spoke good english (initially) and answered all of my questions in a nice way and also agreed for a price reduction.).

Of course that was on me.

But the amount of scams and uglies on Michat is crazy. (Anecdotally, 3 very pretty girls on eurogirlescort site also turned out to be scammers. Even very high price doesn't guarantee quality).

I don't know if it is my location or my inexperience with Michat, but even as is, I scoured hundreds of profiles, had tens of connection requests and I barely have a few contacts saved for when I am desperate enough to go for some average girl. Nothing else to show for it.

Oh, and don't get me started on the Match feature that consists only of scammers (I suspect platform itself is trying to show you tons of matches to get you subscribed). Nothing came out of it at all.

Standard Classic or Kotah Indah bars are hundred times better in that sense. At least in my experience.

I will hang out in the north area soon and hopefully Michat there will be better.

Final advice for Michat: ALWAYS video call the girl before meeting. I learned the hard way. (Bad) Michat Experience.

[Safado70]

The original Indonesian version of this customs declaration form uses the word obat-obatan. Just translate it into a language where the word drugs is not ambiguous and you will see it means illegal drugs.

Narkotika, psikotropika, prekursor, obat-obatan, senjata api, senjata angin, senjata tajam, amunisi, bahan peledak, benda/publikasi pornografi.

[Gabacho]

Just becareful if asked what the medication is for (eg not catching hiv) and your intentions are for your stay. I'd be inclined to buy my medication in Indonesia on arrival.

The Embassy of Indonesia does not have the authority to confirm the legality of specific medications.

However, we are pleased to provide the following guidelines from the Customs of Indonesia to assist in ensuring compliance with Indonesian regulations and to clarify the process for declaring prescribed medications upon arrival:

Doctor's Letter: It is advisable to carry a letter from your doctor or specialist outlining your medical condition, specifying the prescribed medication and dosage, and confirming that the medication is for personal use only.

Prescription and Receipts: Please bring the original or a copy of your prescription, along with a receipt from the pharmacy.

Original Packaging: Medications should be kept in their original packaging to facilitate identification. It is recommended not to transfer them to alternative containers..

It actually doesn't say anywhere on the customs declaration form that you have to declare "prescription medication" I have attached a screen shot of the declaration form instructions. It specifically mentions "narcotics, psychotropics, precursors, drugs (this is ambiguous and could be interpreted to mean illicit street drugs, especially since all the other things in this category are illicit), firearms, weapons, explosives, ammunition, and porn.

So where exactly does it specifically mention "prescription medication" it doesn't. The closest it comes is the word "drugs" which is vague and ambiguous and most people would think of drugs as meaning Marijuana, Cocaine, etc. Medications are medications and the word medication is absent from this form.

Furthermore if "drugs" was being used as an umbrella term to cover all drugs including both illicit drugs and prescription medications, then why do they specifically mention narcotics and psychotropics but not mention other types of medications such as antibiotics and antivirals for example?

If anything the form is not 100% clear about what needs to be declared.

Gabacho.

[XXL]

For me Michat did not work very well.

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But the amount of scams and uglies on Michat is crazy. (Anecdotally, 3 very pretty girls on eurogirlescort site also turned out to be scammers. Even very high price doesn't guarantee quality).

I don't know if it is my location or my inexperience with Michat, but even as is, I scoured hundreds of profiles, had tens of connection requests and I barely have a few contacts saved for when I am desperate enough to go for some average girl. Nothing else to show for it.



Final advice for Michat: ALWAYS video call the girl before meeting. I learned the hard way. (Bad) Michat Experience.

Thank you for reporting on the flip side of the coin!

[Safado70]

True. One Tinder girl from Bandung asked me to send her 2 juta for her high speed train to Jakarta. I wonder if she ever found a fool who fell for that scam.

I think your right. 50 k is about the real cost of a ride if she's not too far. Typically scammers ask for multiples of the true cost. Eg: I'm in the Philippines now and a girl just asked me to send her 'only' P500 upfront for a P18 trike ride to come and see me.

G.

[Giovanni Volo]

Thank you.

I was in Ancol once, but I just saw a very very hot beach, not nice at all. Near the port.

It may be I was in the wrong side.

I saw cable car, but I never token it.

When I back to Jakarta I look better about this and other water park.

I like girls quality and price in Jakarta, but till now I never found nothing else nice to do that I like aside Mulia music, and China town walk and moanstery. If I found something to do I could appreciate Jakarta. Water park could be very nice. I will try, thanks!

For those of you who say there is nothing to do in Jakarta, you must have not been to Dunia Fantasi yet. They also have a water park there called Atlantis, a Seaworld, and a Zoo as well and it is all located near the beach and they have a cable car line going over the beach and water too.

A quick Google search shows that there are various water parks with water slides here and tons of different malls all through the city and the Ancol Complex with all thee great attractions.

So how is there nothing to do here?

-Gabacho.

[Goferring]

Not sure it's actually a scam, I think it's that they're actually that broke that a 50 idr grab ride is an issue with them. That's why most of them would rather you come to them. Not happenin' .

I think your right. 50 k is about the real cost of a ride if she's not too far. Typically scammers ask for multiples of the true cost. Eg: I'm in the Philippines now and a girl just asked me to send her 'only' P500 upfront for a P18 trike ride to come and see me.

G.

[Goferring]

Wrong app, mate, it's Michat, not Wechat. Can only see it and download it if you're on the ground in Indo or Singapore.

Aaah. Ok. Thanks for the clarification.

G.

[Astral100]

For me Michat did not work very well.

I stay mainly to the south west of Jakarta center (Kebayoran Lama area, close to Block M) and the traffic there is not very good quality-wise.

I have seen hundreds of ugly girls and a few ok ones in the search nearby feature.

Pretty much every single account with a pretty girl is either a scammer, sells vcs (adult videos) or outright tries to get some form of deposit from you.

I usually ask the girls with unclear face or body to send more photos, and invariably they either send different photos from the girl, or disappear, or you realise they are ugly.

After going through hundreds of profiles I managed to arrange 2 meetings so far, both in their hotel (thankfully both places were very close to me).

Of course, I haven't done video calling confirmation and it bit me in the ass. Now I know better.

The 1st turned out to be bait and switch (waited 15 minutes in the lobby), so I left.

The 2nd turned out to be a scammer that as soon as she confirmed I am sitting in the hotel waiting, sent me details to send her 100 K online first with some bullshit excuse that she can't meet until transaction is complete. (She was actually quite smart to get me to the hotel, as she posted a lot of clear photos of the girl and spoke good english (initially) and answered all of my questions in a nice way and also agreed for a price reduction.).

Of course that was on me.

But the amount of scams and uglies on Michat is crazy. (Anecdotally, 3 very pretty girls on eurogirlescort site also turned out to be scammers. Even very high price doesn't guarantee quality).

I don't know if it is my location or my inexperience with Michat, but even as is, I scoured hundreds of profiles, had tens of connection requests and I barely have a few contacts saved for when I am desperate enough to go for some average girl. Nothing else to show for it.

Oh, and don't get me started on the Match feature that consists only of scammers (I suspect platform itself is trying to show you tons of matches to get you subscribed). Nothing came out of it at all.

Standard Classic or Kotah Indah bars are hundred times better in that sense. At least in my experience.

I will hang out in the north area soon and hopefully Michat there will be better.

Final advice for Michat: ALWAYS video call the girl before meeting. I learned the hard way. (Bad) Michat Experience.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

I assume you need an indo Sim card with SMS functionality. A Telkomsel SIM data only will not do. You need to buy one with data + voice. I remember the sellers at the airport asking whether I wanted "only data".

Correct, you need an Indonesian Sim or esim with phone number as well. I bought mine online as I detailed elsewhere in another post.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Maybe a way to avoid them getting scammed out of a round-trip with somebody who's not actually going to meet them, or who will send them away without money if he doesn't like what he sees, or just to hopefully get some extra taxi money. If I was a working girl, I'd probably also insist my customer pays taxi.

Offering to book grab for them from your own account like Safado70 said is probably the best choice. If they're outright scammers who wouldn't even show, they'll decline of course, while if they're real you can see on your phone exactly when they will arrive, which is also a good thing.

Cute. Maybe I will have good luck and also meet her next month, though the thought of your sloppy seconds does not entice me much, with all due respect. ;-)

Girls from the street or apps who "just turned 18" trigger some paranoia in me though, and I'd not trust my own judgment to be sure whether someone is 17 or 18, so I'd want to see some ID in cases like that. Fortunately it does not seem, from a quick google search, that this particular type of blackmail is particularly popular in Indonesia, but who knows.

Yeah sending them to grab is not an issue to me. Out of all the girls I've seen from Michat though only one has asked for transport.

As far as asking for a girl's ID chances are about 95% that they won't have one.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Damn she's a real cutie. And great body. Score! Congrats.

Thanks mate! Yeah with the success I'm havingon Michat and with the Lokasari girls I've had no reason to even go to classic or travel.

[Astral100]

For me Michat did not work very well.

I stay mainly to the south west of Jakarta center (Kebayoran Lama area) and the traffic there is not very good quality-wise.

I have seen hundreds of ugly girls and a few ok ones in the search nearby feature.

Pretty much every single account with a pretty girl is either a scammer, sells vcs (adult videos) or outright tries to get some form of deposit from you.

I usually ask the girls with unclear face or body to send more photos, and invariably they either send different photos from the girl, or disappear, or you realise they are ugly.

After going through hundreds of profiles I managed to arrange 2 meetings so far, both in their hotel (thankfully both places were very close to me).

Of course, I haven't done video calling confirmation and it bit me in the ass. Now I know better.

The 1st turned out to be bait and switch, so I left.

The 2nd turned out to be a scammer that as soon as she confirmed I am sitting in the hotel waiting, sent me details to send her 100 K online first with some bullshit excuse that she can't meet until transaction is complete. (She was actually quite smart to get me to the hotel, as she posted a lot of clear photos and spoke good english (initially) and answered all of my questions in a nice way and also agreed for a price reduction.).

The amount of scams and uglies on Michat is crazy. (Anecdotally, 3 very pretty girls on eurogirlescort site also turned out to be scammers. Even very high price doesn't guarantee quality).

I don't know if it is my location or my inexperience with Michat, but even as is, I scoured hundreds of profiles, had tens of connection requests and I barely have a few contacts saved for when I am desperate enough to go for some average girl. Nothing else to show for it.

Oh, and don't get me started on the Match feature that consists only of scammers (I suspect platform itself is trying to show you tons of matches to get you subscribed). Nothing came out of it at all.

Standard Classic or Kotah Indah bars are hundred times better in that sense. At least in my experience.

I will hang out in the north area soon and hopefully the Michat experience will be better.

Final advice for Michat: ALWAYS video call the girl before meeting. I learned the hard way.