Pattaya Reports

[CaliTraveler]

We need to have a bit of self-awareness LOL. Most Thailand visitors aren't spending two months in the provinces of the Philippines. I lived in southern Africa half a century ago more or less, and I would buy a bar girl a couple of drinks, take her home to a place nicer than wherever she was staying, and give her "cab fare" in the morning knowing damn well that she was walking. I wasn't a tourist (not that there were many) and I didn't get tourist pricing. That was then; this is now.

When I visit I am going to a country I have never been to before, where I speak exactly zero of the local language, and where I am following in the footsteps of tens of thousands of other visitors in the same situation. Why the hell should I expect "local pricing"? Why would I expect things to be the way they were 10 years ago? Hell, if things were the way they were 10 years ago I wouldn't be leaving southern Florida, because no market has gone to hell the way this place has..

Why not trying to get dirty cheap deals if you're able to, not everyone is wealthy stock owner that has money flowing to his bank account based on the Wall Street affairs, most of us are just working class people who work for a year in our places of residence (I am originally from Balkans area but I live in California and NYC for the past 30 years), I work menial jobs like construction and moving throughout the year and then maybe once every two years I am able to afford a trip to Colombia or Philippines and sure as hell I fly into Manila but immediately hop on the bus to AC to get those provincial fun rates as opposed to be looked upon as rich American in Manila which I'm definitely not. Last time I was in San Jose, Costa Rica, the one hour prices at the popular hotel (I forgot the name of it) were about $150 per hour, but thank to the local guides that are standing outside the hotel, they took me literally around the corner where those short term places were, it's like bunch of bars with room in the back, the same thing was like $30 for 20 or 30 minutes, amazing talent. So, it's always good to look for the best opportunity to get more bang for your buck unless money is not an object, which I assume for most of us here that's not the case.

[LittleBigMan]

Usually I don't go to agogo's because they are too damn expensive. I go 3 times a year to Pattaya and check everything out.

Beach road (1000-1500).

Ibar 2000ST.

Soi Honey Up to You massage 1 300ST (Kim!

Freelancers etc.

The price difference is strange. In Shark I took out nr 961 (spinner, small body, nice tattoos.) for a great session. But 3 000 barfine for ST of 2 hours, and 4 000 for the lady.

She was well worth it.

Could anybody check if she is still there? Or. Check if she is still good?) I know 7 000 is probably too much.

I go back in August 10 for 3 weeks.

People who want to meet up, are welcome. I always go by myself and could use a wise wingman sometimes to prevent me to fall in love.

What you pay is up to you, but when were you in town last that BF at Shark was 3000 baht.

[JayWonEm]

To add to the MDE comparisons, while guys are complaining about $200 girls in Manila, I've just come off two months in the provinces where standard rates were P2000/$35 for as long as I wanted her, typically late afternoon to mid morning. I posted comments that I was actually pleasantly surprised by the uptick in looks and performance vs previous visits. I'm sure that the same is available in LOS or <<insert preferred destination>>. Just not on Walking St or Nana Plaza.

We need to have a bit of self-awareness LOL. Most Thailand visitors aren't spending two months in the provinces of the Philippines. I lived in southern Africa half a century ago more or less, and I would buy a bar girl a couple of drinks, take her home to a place nicer than wherever she was staying, and give her "cab fare" in the morning knowing damn well that she was walking. I wasn't a tourist (not that there were many) and I didn't get tourist pricing. That was then; this is now.

When I visit I am going to a country I have never been to before, where I speak exactly zero of the local language, and where I am following in the footsteps of tens of thousands of other visitors in the same situation. Why the hell should I expect "local pricing"? Why would I expect things to be the way they were 10 years ago? Hell, if things were the way they were 10 years ago I wouldn't be leaving southern Florida, because no market has gone to hell the way this place has.

If I am traveling somewhere I expect to familiarize myself with pricing in the local market. Not what I would pay if I lived there; what pricing is for tourists. Because I AM a tourist. I expect to do my research so I know what outlets are available, and which are most likely to meet my needs (brothel, agency, independent, massage parlor, etc.). Once I have done my part I expect to have as good a time as possible within those parameters. What I DON'T expect is to get ripped off because I compare everything to prices at home, or to throw money around because everything seems so cheap. There are going to be those who have been in the local market who resent newcomers and want things to be the way they were. Sorry. There is a difference between prices increasing due to supply and demand, and people "ruining the market" by overpaying.

Pretty sure I will be able to have a good time with those expectations.

[MongerHunger]

The complaints that things aren't the same as decades ago have infected all the forums. My reply remains the same in that, while times have changed, if guys put the same effort in, then the same results are available. Now guys are expecting discount airfares, direct transit busses and 5 star accomodation. Decades ago cheap pussy came with an epic adventure just to get there, the most basic of accomodation and often warm beers.

To add to the MDE comparisons, while guys are complaining about $200 girls in Manila, I've just come off two months in the provinces where standard rates were P2000/$35 for as long as I wanted her, typically late afternoon to mid morning. I posted comments that I was actually pleasantly surprised by the uptick in looks and performance vs previous visits. I'm sure that the same is available in LOS or <<insert preferred destination>>. Just not on Walking St or Nana Plaza.

Apologies for the rant.

Enjoy. G.

The same guys complaining are also the same guys that are afraid to go anywhere they don't see any other foreigners or they say they want a travel companion, a Wingman, a drinking buddy, etc. I like rolling solo. All I have to worry about is just "Me".

[Mr Enternational]

People who want to meet up, are welcome. I always go by myself and could use a wise wingman sometimes to prevent me to fall in love.

Falling in love is the fun part.

[Goferring]

The fact is that everywhere is worse than it used to be. Unfortunately, we can't go somewhere 10 years ago; we can only go somewhere now.

J.

The complaints that things aren't the same as decades ago have infected all the forums. My reply remains the same in that, while times have changed, if guys put the same effort in, then the same results are available. Now guys are expecting discount airfares, direct transit busses and 5 star accomodation. Decades ago cheap pussy came with an epic adventure just to get there, the most basic of accomodation and often warm beers.

To add to the MDE comparisons, while guys are complaining about $200 girls in Manila, I've just come off two months in the provinces where standard rates were P2000/$35 for as long as I wanted her, typically late afternoon to mid morning. I posted comments that I was actually pleasantly surprised by the uptick in looks and performance vs previous visits. I'm sure that the same is available in LOS or <<insert preferred destination>>. Just not on Walking St or Nana Plaza.

Apologies for the rant.

Enjoy. G.

[JayWonEm]

OK so I have traveled many places in the world for decades but never to Thailand, about 10 years ago got only as close as the Philippines.

Now for the past almost 15 years living in Colombia and have played in every city and pueblo in Colombia both non-pro, freelancers and pros, I don't discriminate LOL, and I love Latin women especially Colombian chicas.

But out of curiosity I have read through a few pages on this forum and see the photos, the prices, the various venues and have drawn some conclusions namely:

1. The going rate is roughly 3000 BHT (Which is roughly $90 USD and here in Medellin I typically pay 130,000 Colombian pesos for a beautiful fresh and young gal with great attitude and girl friends sex to boot, now 130,000 pesos is about $35. USD.

2. The heat in Thailand is a turn off, I have partied in the Phillipines, the DR, Havana Cuba and all through Mexico and frankly the heat / humidity is no fun, unlike the weather we have in Medellin as it is always Spring here.

3. I just checked the airfare from Medellin Colombia to Thailand and you have to travel through the USA so the times to fly is about 2 days plus, no good then THE COST is ridiculous as I see the cost for RT as about $2,800 USD! Crazy. (I am curios as to what you are paying for a RT flight from a US city?

4. I have read and watched on YouTube that in Pattaya especially it is being overrun by Indians, is this true?

So all in all I just answered my own curiosity and questions, it is a no go for me to travel to Thailand.

I can fly RT from Medellin to the DR or Havana Cuba for about $335 USD and the flight is a few hours and not a few days.

Be safe all!

TTM.

Funny that I was on the fence about an Asian trip and was thinking maybe I should just do a trip to MDE instead. It's a short flight from southern Florida, I haven't been there, and I speak fairly decent Spanish. I have done a few trips to Cartagena and the heat there is even worse than in Florida. In the end I was going out to the west coast for another reason and figured I might as well keep going.

I am over 70, and I am beyond traveling just for cheap pussy. Although I will indulge extensively. At my age I don't believe in going or staying anywhere I don't want to be. I will enjoy the women in Bangkok and Pattaya until I am totally worn out. But I will also enjoy the food, the sights, the people, the temples, the markets, and just being somewhere completely different. I will get to MDE and the beautiful Colombian women, but there are things I want to see and I don't know how much longer I will be able to (or want to) make this kind of trip.

It's funny that the comparison to MDE has come up here, because as I was reading that forum I saw all the same complaints about how things have been ruined by (passport bros or insert group name), how the market has been ruined, and how the city isn't the same as it was (insert number of years) ago. Moreso in the Cartagena forum, and don't even look at the Sosua / DR forums. The fact is that everywhere is worse than it used to be. Unfortunately, we can't go somewhere 10 years ago; we can only go somewhere now.

As one more thought, IMO there is a difference between going somewhere for "sex" and "sex tourism". Sometimes the whole experience is more important than just the quality and price of the sex. I am sorely lacking in experience with Asian women, and I want to correct that oversight. I also want to experience Soi 6 and Nana Plaza and a blowjob bar and Thai massage parlors and Thermae and everything else. The entire experience is much more than the time it takes to bust a nut or two.

Anyway, first trip upcoming and I plan to be in Pattaya for a few days Aug 19-22. DMs are open if anyone wants me to buy them a drink or two while I am there. Tall Man, DM you when I make that MDE trip.

J.

[Lars123]

Usually I don't go to agogo's because they are too damn expensive. I go 3 times a year to Pattaya and check everything out.

Beach road (1000-1500).

Ibar 2000ST.

Soi Honey Up to You massage 1 300ST (Kim!

Freelancers etc.

The price difference is strange. In Shark I took out nr 961 (spinner, small body, nice tattoos.) for a great session. But 3 000 barfine for ST of 2 hours, and 4 000 for the lady.

She was well worth it.

Could anybody check if she is still there? Or. Check if she is still good?) I know 7 000 is probably too much.

I go back in August 10 for 3 weeks.

People who want to meet up, are welcome. I always go by myself and could use a wise wingman sometimes to prevent me to fall in love.

[LittleBigMan]

You are funny, not to say it otherwise. It was a freaking example on how fares can go up and down unexpectedly, sometimes ridiculously low, distance to Europe being approximately the same as to the West coast US, it was just a generalization. Based on your replies, now I understand why you're not finding cheaper fares. Let's end the talk about air travel here, and focus on the main subject: Good luck, and happy mongering to you!

Agree! For your own sake let's move on conversation becoming old and ugly.

[Old And Ugly]

Thanks for the information but the fare you are discussing now has no relationship to our prior conversation regarding said destination to and from USA West coast to Bangkok.

You are funny, not to say it otherwise. It was a freaking example on how fares can go up and down unexpectedly, sometimes ridiculously low, distance to Europe being approximately the same as to the West coast US, it was just a generalization. Based on your replies, now I understand why you're not finding cheaper fares. Let's end the talk about air travel here, and focus on the main subject: Good luck, and happy mongering to you!

[Pulse0101]

Thank you for a great update. Have not been looking at the Thailand forum for a bit and this report prepares me really well for a Jan / Feb trip.

Very unlikely that anything of the past is going to come back, so we have to make do the best we can with the cards dealt with.

Cheers / Pulse.

Recently got back from a few months trip to Thailand arriving before Songkran. Stayed in Pattaya mostly. I have not been back since right before COVID shut everything down and it was quite the shocker to return. Been coming to Thailand since 2014 yearly, sometimes with a few trips per year until the disaster of our current human leadership degraded itself to new depths.
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Nobody likely has all the answers. What I will say is that the desire to revisit Thailand has dropped heavily. Never could have imagined saying this. While not as crazy and licentious as Thailand, there are other countries nearby and in other regions that offer better value for pussy, an understatement for some. I can see a newer definition of short times with increasing pricing offered by more establishments finding middle ground to keep both pounders and providers happy. Short time guys don't use up much time, especially if the quality is high. I could also see girls offering more genuine long massages, cleaning services, and / or cooking to support the prices they are asking.

Attached are some photos of girls I had this visit. This is the lowest quality and worst trip out of many in terms of paid women. I will most likely continue my yearly trips to Europe and, occasionally, Latin America. Asia I'm not sure is worth the hike. Looking at the photos of years past confirms the hottest girls I pulled this trip were the average of prior trips, with much higher quantity and availability at lower prices. I will forever appreciate the lessons learned from visiting this novel land. The world needs the Pattaya of the past.

[LittleBigMan]

After Pattaya I had to go for a really short trip to Germany, before returning to PH. The ticket to Germany was dirt cheap, and I had half the airplane to myself. Coming back was a different story, the cost was 4X.

Thanks for the information but the fare you are discussing now has no relationship to our prior conversation regarding said destination to and from USA West coast to Bangkok.

[UglyAzzMan]

In 2018, I was paying about $50/ girl for amazing service in Colombia. The Pandemic changed everything! Many young men started traveling with their online work. Many cut girls starting making videos and selling them. Girls were leaving Colombia to work in Mexico, Europe, and places for better money. I lost many girls to these countries. Not only that, but the passport bros were coming and dumping money left and right. For them, spending $100-$150 on a girl is cheap while the experienced mongers know better.

2 years ago, I met a sexy ex puta. Initially I bough her content and she finally came for some action. She was very sexy, thin, tall, etc. Her story was that she saw men for a couple of years but during the pandemic, she had to stop because of the restrictions in place of contact so she did online contect selling. She found a boyfriend and him and her starting making videos and selling them online. They made enough money that she did not have to work.

During the pandemic, the US starting printing money and was handing it out like candy. Broke ass fooos were get large checks in the mail and some people were making more on unemployment than working. All of this pumped extra money to the pockets of passport bros. With the western girls tighting their pussies for the local guys and these girls were selling their shit online, the local young men became frustrated and decided to monger.

When I'm on the plane to medellin, I see so many younger men around the age of 25-35 there for a short time and they will drop some money to get some action.

There are more and more videos of people walking with cameras in areas of the working girls. Men in the west see this and they want a piece of it.

Now the going rate is around $100 and it's it's a simple supply and demand. The supply may have gone up a tiny bit and I think the super cut girls sell their content. The deman is very high because of the passport bros. So even the uglies or fatties or both think they are forth a lot of money.

But I think that girls selling content online is changing or at least the demand is. Initially there were few girls doing it then it went to hundreds, and now it's hundreds of thousands of girls. So the competition is fierce. Being super is not cutting it anymore and now the girls must do things that stand out from the rest. With invent of AI porn, these little bitches who sell their content will see a big reduction in their easy earnings.

Welcome to the new earth and I'm also in the same boat as you are my friend. Heading to pattaya in August.

My understanding is the Passport Bros are Broke.

Unlike the Koreans. Hahaha. Hahaha.

My understanding is the Bros like moo dang type girls.

Unlike the Koreans. Hahaha. Hahaha.

[Old And Ugly]

Not picking on you I appreciate the comments. But your original post did not come out and say it was One Way, and you noting the airline Starlux on make it seem you double down you are only now clarifying you do one way only but the price noted that is my oversight! You noted a price like 385 another poster indicated it was cheap must be one way there was never a clarification so I proceeded as you noted to check and found the price RT, was more to as you noted now 1300-1500 USD depending on when you travel. Being in the airline industry when I see a price quote to low to believe I do the research since as noted I have standby benefits with near all airlines and my benefits are around 375 USD RT.

For the other poster who said ten more minutes Skyscanner, I checked the lowest I saw and of course dates are important best in baht 24,000 baht RT, not bad, but nothing as noted in the range of Euro 595!

After Pattaya I had to go for a really short trip to Germany, before returning to PH. The ticket to Germany was dirt cheap, and I had half the airplane to myself. Coming back was a different story, the cost was 4X.

[LittleBigMan]

Yes, that's what I said initially: ONE WAY, and the first class thing was a joke.

Any way, I was only trying to help. No need to convince you, or nobody else about nothing, because "nothing else matters".

Regular fare 2 way from US is around 1500, sometime more, sometime less depends on how lucky you are.

Myself, I only buy one way because I live in SEA, and I don't really know where I'm going to end up next month. Maybe I read about some interesting place, or some add with cheap airfare pops up in my email, or I read about pussy being on sale someplace, that's how I make my plans.

Not picking on you I appreciate the comments. But your original post did not come out and say it was One Way, and you noting the airline Starlux on make it seem you double down you are only now clarifying you do one way only but the price noted that is my oversight! You noted a price like 385 another poster indicated it was cheap must be one way there was never a clarification so I proceeded as you noted to check and found the price RT, was more to as you noted now 1300-1500 USD depending on when you travel. Being in the airline industry when I see a price quote to low to believe I do the research since as noted I have standby benefits with near all airlines and my benefits are around 375 USD RT.

For the other poster who said ten more minutes Skyscanner, I checked the lowest I saw and of course dates are important best in baht 24,000 baht RT, not bad, but nothing as noted in the range of Euro 595!