Sao Paulo Reports

[Turgid]

We were in Rio around the same time earlier this year. I think I was about halfway through my trip when you arrived, so we were seeing the same thing at Solarium. It wasn't the best talent I've ever seen there. But not nearly the worst either. When in Rio I always have to stop in on Solarium at least once to see what's cooking. But this is the Sao Paulo thread, so best to turn it back to that.

It was only in my visit earlier this year that Solarium had the best talent. In my earliest trips to Rio decades ago Centaurus had the best talent for me. Second and third would be L'uomo then Monte Carlo. But in those days I mostly sessioned Help garotas. When Help closed I stopped going to Rio then shifted to Sao Paulo which had very hot girls but the service was not as good as Rio; no place in the world has girls who give as good service as cariocas.

[The Cane]

What took you so long to start?

My career. I just never had the time! But now I can say I speak three languages. English, Spanish, and Portuguese. But, I will still use a translator app for the Portuguese until I really have my confidence with it like I do with Spanish.

[Nounce]

By the time I return I'm going to be golden!

What took you so long to start?

[Nounce]

But around 3/4 am I realize that I should see someone else as well

For various reasons, one can leave empty handed. But in your case, if budget is not a problem, then you should not unless it is a bad night. That may happen but rarely.

I suggest you to go to Casarao after midnight if you don't find anyone. The reason being that the same or the same type of girl that charges 1000 in Scandallo which may be considered overpriced would charge 500 at Casarao which could be considered a steal. I would only go to Casarao to find something cheaper, not something better, relatively speaking.

I suspect that you may not like Casarao. I spent a many nights there because I stayed near by and I don't like it. I am a slow guy, and Casarao is fast-paced

[The Cane]

I will try my best to pick some basic Brazilian Portuguese. I have working knowledge of Spanish, but realize that won't be useful in Brazil.

Actually, having Spanish is quite useful. There are enough similarities that if you speak it well enough and slowly enough many Brazilians will get what you are saying. But, you won't understand them! But trust me. English plus Spanish plus a good translator app will take you a long way. I'm already a Spanish speaker and have been studying Brazilian Portuguese for a few months now, and I have good conversational Portuguese already. My command of Spanish has made the learning easy. By the time I return I'm going to be golden!

[RahulMangla2009]

I will try my best to pick some basic Brazilian Portuguese. I have working knowledge of Spanish, but realize that won't be useful in Brazil.

4. advice: learn some basic brasilian Portuguese. In scandallo you don't want be limited to only the english speaking garotas, yes google translate works for basic communication with garotas in scandallo, casarao & clinicas. They all know how to figure out a session without ingles but there are so many small, language hassles or silly miscommunication if limites to only using google translate. Your experience will be enhanced with a few basic phrases or having a brasilian spotify playlist handy to play music in the love motels.

[RahulMangla2009]

Haha!

Sorry I forgot to clarify. Sometimes I pick a girl around midnight for a couple of hours (that's usually the standard unit of engagement in Dubai clubs. Haha), and by the time I am done by around 2 am, I am exhausted or too tired. But around 3/4 am I realize that I should see someone else as well, so I make my way back to the club and miss out on the opportunity as they close down sharp at 4 am, and I am not a quick decision maker unfortunately. And then Dubai pretty dry during the day time (few online options).

But, seems like I should not have that problem in Sao Paulo. Thanks for clarifying on the love motels way of booking. I will just try to do that.

To answer Rahuls other two questions.

Yes you can def do walk up checkin at Lush. In fact it's really the only way. Their online is good and sophisticated but requires a CPF (like a Brazilian tax payer number) and Brazilian phone number. So not really practical. But me and my bud (separate times) didn't have any problem booking at the gate and girls arriving a bit later.

And Scan closes at 5. If you can't score a girl by then something is seriously wrong and you should retire from the game. 😝 Seriously. The likelihood of finding nothing is basically zero. And if that's the case it's your issue. Really.

[Tochka]

I was just about to write something similar. If you can't score something by 5 am in Scandello, then it is time for some serious introspection.

Hell, soon as the elevator doors open, take two steps toward the coffee bar on the right side. Stay silent, Smile and point your finger in the air upwards. Watch the line of garotas recognize the bat signal and approach you. Kkklk.

[Tochka]

Thanks everyone on the guidance /
1. I think Marriott Executive apartments is supposed to be totally girl friendly and no upcharges? Seems like few reports mentioned that.

2. How do we usually book some of these love motels (lush / asturia)? Do I have to book in advance or I can just pick a girl from scandallo and take her to one and book it on the spot? I have heard that I can just show up in the driveway and choose on the computer what is available. Is that how it works?

3. What time does Scandallo close? I see on google it says 5 AM on most nights. If I am unable to pick up a girl by 4 AM in Dubai clubs, they just mostly disperse and sometimes I have to go back alone to my room (sucks! If I want to pick a girl late in the early morning I. E. Around 5 AM or even 6 AM, do girls hang out at scandallo? Any other spots you would recommend?

4. advice: learn some basic brasilian Portuguese. In scandallo you don't want be limited to only the english speaking garotas, yes google translate works for basic communication with garotas in scandallo, casarao & clinicas. They all know how to figure out a session without ingles but there are so many small, language hassles or silly miscommunication if limites to only using google translate. Your experience will be enhanced with a few basic phrases or having a brasilian spotify playlist handy to play music in the love motels.

[Anaggie]

To answer Rahuls other two questions.

And Scan closes at 5. If you can't score a girl by then something is seriously wrong and you should retire from the game. 😝 Seriously. The likelihood of finding nothing is basically zero. And if that's the case it's your issue. Really.

I was just about to write something similar. If you can't score something by 5 am in Scandello, then it is time for some serious introspection.

[The Cane]

In my visit to Rio earlier this year Solarium clearly had the best talent of all the termas. The talent was decent enough. Only 4 X4 had more clients. 4 X4 is much cheaper and I suppose more customers go to Solarium because the women are hotter.

We were in Rio around the same time earlier this year. I think I was about halfway through my trip when you arrived, so we were seeing the same thing at Solarium. It wasn't the best talent I've ever seen there. But not nearly the worst either. When in Rio I always have to stop in on Solarium at least once to see what's cooking. But this is the Sao Paulo thread, so best to turn it back to that.

[Steve 9696]

To answer Rahuls other two questions.

Yes you can def do walk up checkin at Lush. In fact it's really the only way. Their online is good and sophisticated but requires a CPF (like a Brazilian tax payer number) and Brazilian phone number. So not really practical. But me and my bud (separate times) didn't have any problem booking at the gate and girls arriving a bit later.

And Scan closes at 5. If you can't score a girl by then something is seriously wrong and you should retire from the game. 😝 Seriously. The likelihood of finding nothing is basically zero. And if that's the case it's your issue. Really.

[Turgid]

Solarium used to be "must-see" for me. However, the last few times I've gone there, it's been a total sausage fest in there. There's like 30 guys all sitting right next to each other shoulders touching and everything with like 20-25 girls around. And the talent level there isn't as nice as it once was either.

The place is just way too small overall. It's significantly smaller than Monte Carlo and Centaurus and probably slightly smaller than 4 x4 however 4 x4 has different floors and different stuff going on each floor so it seems more spread out at least.

Theres better places to go to than waste time at Solarium imo.

In my visit to Rio earlier this year Solarium clearly had the best talent of all the termas. The talent was decent enough. Only 4 X4 had more clients. 4 X4 is much cheaper and I suppose more customers go to Solarium because the women are hotter.

[Voodoo Jones]

Thanks everyone on the guidance / ideas!

I checked out some of the 5* hotels for my dates (8/9 to 8/16) next month. The prices seem a bit too high. No? Most of these (renaissance / jw / hyatt etc.) seem to be easily $300-$400 per night plus taxes. I usually like to have a suite with a seating area just to relax with the girls / drink there before heading to the bed. The suites seem insane at $500-$600 per night or above. Is Sao Paulo supposed to be this expensive, or is it just the month of August that it becomes expensive / tourist visits?

It's winter in Brazil, so this isn't the tourist season. That would be December to March when the prices are highest. In late February during Carnival, you'll see prices spike the most.

[Axel Heyst]

Thanks everyone on the guidance / ideas!

I checked out some of the 5* hotels for my dates (8/9 to 8/16) next month. The prices seem a bit too high. No? Most of these (renaissance / jw / hyatt etc.) seem to be easily $300-$400 per night plus taxes. I usually like to have a suite with a seating area just to relax with the girls / drink there before heading to the bed. The suites seem insane at $500-$600 per night or above. Is Sao Paulo supposed to be this expensive, or is it just the month of August that it becomes expensive / tourist visits?

Ended up booking the Marriott Executive apartment as it has that small apartment feel with a seating area. Though it is not high end / flashy. I might be ok with that, as I am thinking of going to some fancy motels (Lush, Asturia, or some of the other ones mentioned here in the forum) as they seem to be a nice deal I think for $100-$150 for some of the nicer suites with pools etc. Will love to take the girls there may be and then come back to my apartment and sleep. Couple of questions:

1. I think Marriott Executive apartments is supposed to be totally girl friendly and no upcharges? Seems like few reports mentioned that.

SP 5-star hotel prices are in the stratosphere. I don't know anyone who pays the rack rate. But room rates fluctuate, almost weekly, and sometimes the chains offer weekend discounts or 3-to-5-night discount bookings that are much more reasonable. The main way I get around these huge rack rates is by using hotel points and annual voucher nights that I accumulate over time from various hotel chain credit cards like the Chase Marriott & Chase Hyatt. Having membership standing with these hotels can get you room upgrades at no additional cost when available. For example. On my last April visit the Intercontinental upgraded my reservation from their king bedroom to their largest 1 br suite facing the front of the hotel. I paid in points and vouchers for my 5-night stay. It was grand! And on the same trip, the Hyatt, while undergoing extensive lobby renovations, upgraded my queen bedroom reso to their 1 br suite facing the river. Again, I paid in points and vouchers for my 5-night stay. The Hyatt is my favorite hotel in SP despite the fact that the surrounding neighborhood is completely uninteresting and a touch out of the way.

That said, I like the Marriot Exec hotel. It ain't 5 star, but it is comfortable, it is girl friendly, and the location is GREAT. Unfortunately, Marriot does not accept hotel points for this property. It is cash only at all of their exec apartment hotels worldwide. I have stayed at 2 different Marriott Exec Apart Hotels in BKK and liked them both.