American Politics

[The Cane]

Around 2007 I got on a train in Shanghai, to get off in Suzhou. The train was packed solid, in the aisles standing room only. As I approached my assigned seat the occupant got up. After a short while a Chinese man sitting across from me removed his ear buds and spoke in perfect English. He said that train was headed to Xinjiang, a 48 hour journey and that after a while it would become dangerous. He said "the Muslims, we hate them. They hate us, but we can do business". Anyone who criticized Charlie Kirk now will.

Be a target, as the website "charllesmurderers.com has a format for anyone to dox those critics, complete with all the usual info including typical clothing and photos. One of the posters on ISG on this thread provided a website with a link. Another mentioned Unverified information about a a rifle. The left and right can't do business anymore.

The radical left. The reactionary right. The deranged lunatic. It's a powder keg mix right now. And you're right. But the question is why? Why is it that business can't get done anymore? I suggest because there's no longer any agreement on the rules. How about we start with this one? The Constitution is the law of the land. And we swear allegiance to the law of the land. Not to any one man or party, but to the law of the land. The Constitution of the United States! We swear allegiance to it and conduct our actions accordingly, not with lying and gaslighting, but with intellectual honesty and integrity. How about that as a starting point for the rules to be followed? Is that too much to ask? Too much to expect?

[FFlintstone69]

Around 2007 I got on a train in Shanghai, to get off in Suzhou. The train was packed solid, in the aisles standing room only. As I approached my assigned seat the occupant got up. After a short while a Chinese man sitting across from me removed his ear buds and spoke in perfect English. He said that train was headed to Xinjiang, a 48 hour journey and that after a while it would become dangerous. He said "the Muslims, we hate them. They hate us, but we can do business". Anyone who criticized Charlie Kirk now will.

Be a target, as the website "charllesmurderers.com has a format for anyone to dox those critics, complete with all the usual info including typical clothing and photos. One of the posters on ISG on this thread provided a website with a link. Another mentioned Unverified information about a a rifle. The left and right can't do business anymore.

https://www.walkfree.org/global-slav...studies/china/

[Beijing4987]

Around 2007 I got on a train in Shanghai, to get off in Suzhou. The train was packed solid, in the aisles standing room only. As I approached my assigned seat the occupant got up. After a short while a Chinese man sitting across from me removed his ear buds and spoke in perfect English. He said that train was headed to Xinjiang, a 48 hour journey and that after a while it would become dangerous. He said "the Muslims, we hate them. They hate us, but we can do business". Anyone who criticized Charlie Kirk now will.

Be a target, as the website "charllesmurderers.com has a format for anyone to dox those critics, complete with all the usual info including typical clothing and photos. One of the posters on ISG on this thread provided a website with a link. Another mentioned Unverified information about a a rifle. The left and right can't do business anymore.

[FFlintstone69]

Well Said!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji9V8lqWA3E

[RamDavidson84]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlIvH6ozvv4

I recommend some of you watch this if your celebrating the cowardly murder of Charlie Kirk.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Is this MDS1, claiming victimhood?

Well if it is. Take a good look in the mirror and tell me what you see? I'd really like to know?

Yeah, no! Allow me to set the record straight!

That would be your sycophant VP, JD Vance who coined the phrase, and called your Fuhrer, the "America's Hitler"! So you can thank JD Vance for that! Besides, our own MDS1, thinks of it, as a term of endearment.

Oh really, I seem to recall just days ago when, RamDavidson, wrote:

Trump could kill a man on the White House lawn and no one would care as long it puts money in people's pocket. "urlreplacement0}#post302442.

Basically, saying your MAGA Fuhrer, could commit MURDER, so long as "people's pockets" are filled with money. So get your freakin' facts straight, when it comes to who (especially on ISG), is the one advocating violence! Dude, open freakin' eyes!

And while your at it, don't be a sucker, and wise up to the MAGA criminal element, that is so rampant, currently in the White House.

While it's true, there maybe American Nazis, that are followers and / or are members of your Fuhrer's QAnon / MAGA political party (since JD Vance did call him America's Hitler), but it remains to be seen.

When did I call MAGA suckers / cultists. Nazis? {please provide the post link}

The only one here calling MAGA suckers, Nazis,. Is you!

We know you're allergic to the truth.

JD Vance never said that either, but keep repeating anyway.

You can post lies 24/7 I have to struggle very hard to get the truth posted!

Claiming victimhood? LOLOL nope just pointing out the blatant bias around here.

Free Speech for thee but not for me.

The leftist loser way, Tokyo Rose Goatanus and you.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...t-big-lie-quot

[Sirioja]

This guy Kirk is on record for emphatically asserting that to preserve the "god given" right to arms, it's acceptable to have gun related mass murders. You just got to suck it up. As someone who thinks the "right to bear arms" is only slightly less ridiculous than the "right to arm bears", it's ironic how he left this mortal coil. I wonder if he would still stand by his words. It's depressing to note that the wrong wing will still stand by the unfettered right to arms even when it's responsible for one the death of one of their own.

Charlie Kirk was not a good guy. He cared little about human lives if they conflicted with his political ideology. He further favoured the total evisceration of the Palestinians. He was truly vile person. But even vile people do not deserve to be murdered. This event epitomises to me the very troubling cultural and political warfare going on not just in the US but the west as a whole. The extremism of views on both the wrong wing and the left wing is growing to an extent that I cannot see an off ramp. Society. Any society- can only function in the Arestotlian golden mean, the middle ground. Polarised extreme views eventually tear all societies apart, and democracy is its first victim. We are witnessing the destruction of democracy in front of our very eyes. I fear that the only way in which democracy will be preserved in America is by the splintering of America. That will be truly be a sad day, but like witnessing a car crash in slow motion, I feel this is the inevitable outcome we are descending to.

He told yes for free weapons, even if killing some. Now, USA should understand if they are not too stupid, rather than putting flag down. Free weapons kill. But I doubt senile Trump is able to understand, same than his shame for abortion. Middle age country.

[Axel Heyst]

"Hi all,

The culture war shifted significantly in the last two weeks. First, we had the senseless murder of Iryna Zarutska by a man who had been let out of prison multiple times. Then, yesterday, the tragic death of Charlie Kirk, who was killed while bringing free speech to college campuses. I tweeted my thoughts on both incidents, and rather than write an article, I will post them here — in the order they were posted.

The brutal murder of a Ukrainian woman, Iryna Zarutska, in our streets isn't just a headline the media chose to bury — it's the deadly fruit of liberation ideology, born in the late 1960's. For decades, this toxic framework taught the weak-minded that all their struggles, failures, and pains stem from an eternal oppressor: the whites.

It's not mental illness alone that drives someone to commit such a gruesome act. It is the spark of tribal hatred ignited by this divisive worldview.

We permitted this hatred to thrive in the black underclass and what began in one community has metastasized, breeding resentment and violence across the nation. Our schools, through "liberated" ethnic studies, drill this poison into young minds, framing history as a simplistic battle of oppressed versus oppressor. Our governments apply this poison to how they mete out justice, and that is why the killer was free.

This ideology doesn't liberate. It teaches tribal hatred and this is the evil we must eradicated before more damage is done.

September 9.

The time has come to reclaim reality from distortions fracturing our shared humanity. The Left's relentless re-racialization of America has derailed us, prioritizing poetic truths over truth—including George Floyd, whose death was less tragic than this one. His choices led to it. This young woman had no choice. Her story demands attention, not for ideology, but because it pierces the heart of what it means to be human. We will decline as a nation if we tolerate this racist, dehumanizing dogma longer.

Throughout my life, people have asked my father, Shelby Steele, how to counter the Left's white guilt racism, pointing to the flawed promises of affirmative action or recent tragedies like Iryna Zarutska's death, and his answer has always been the same: Have courage.

To him, courage is no mere platitude but the force to reject groupthink, to see reality, to see individuals beyond stereotypes, and to refuse the attempt by others to reduce us to mere skin.

Courage is the antidote to the cowardice that fuels prejudice, the apathy that lets it fester, and the cynicism that says nothing can change. That is our test now: do we have the courage to step out of the shadows and say no more?

My father's quotes on courage over the last 30 years:

"Courage is not the absence of fear, but the willingness to act despite it. " "To speak honestly about race in America is to invite attack, but silence is a greater cowardice. "

"Moral courage is standing for what you believe when the world insists you bend. It's the only way to change anything. ".

"White America has to find a way to restore its moral confidence. It requires the courage to say 'look, I'm not a racist and I don't care what you say, whether it agrees with you or doesn't. '

"Genuine freedom stems from the courageous act of liberating ourselves from the constraints inflicted upon us by others as well as those created by our own minds. ".
And many more.

Race is always a seductive poison, no matter who uses it. It infuses itself into your mind and makes you forsake your humanity. Only grifters benefit.

September 10.

This is tragic. I never met him, but he was one of the earliest champions of my film with my father, Shelby Steele, "What Killed Michael Brown?" he interviewed my father two days after the film was released, during its ban from Amazon. They talked about the Left's systemic racism lie and the insidiousness of white guilt. Afterwards, I would hear from people that Charlie Kirk talked about white guilt on his program. He was one of the more intelligent beings and he was generous enough to spread our ideas. I will also say that Charlie Kirk was one of the braver souls who did not have an ounce of white guilt in him -- he spoke his mind freely and he lived life without fearing the charge of racism. He did not deserve what happened to him today. May his soul rest in peace.

The past two weeks, especially Charlie Kirk's assassination today, have exposed the Left's relentless assault on our nation's soul, reaching lows that I haven't witnessed since joining this culture war as a teen. We can no longer give quarter to an ideology hellbent on dismantling America. Our principles—liberty, truth, and the unyielding spirit of this nation—are non-negotiable. We must be unapologetically American.

Hours after the shooting of Charlie Kirk yesterday, I had a moment of realization. Nearly everyone I know—family, friends, colleagues—has had their lives affected by the Left.

I saw it firsthand in the late 1980's, when my father, Shelby Steele, was called a race traitor for his views on race. Soon after, I met Thomas Sowell, who had faced similar attacks years earlier, before cancellation was even a term. I experienced it myself at Claremont McKenna College. I was ostracized for not joining the black student union and engaging in reductive black politics.

As I got older, my father and I thought that exposing the truth would lead to change. But the Left grew stronger and took control of most American institutions. It changed our moral code from individual character to immutable traits like race.

We met more people harmed by this—whites who lost jobs over diversity policies, Asians discriminated for being successful, and many others shunned for speaking freely. We kept hoping our work would make the Left see their mistakes.

Instead, the Left ushered in the era of re-racialization with Trayvon Martin's death. My father fought back, denying systemic racism and defending America. I made a documentary exposing identity politics. Then we went to Ferguson to expose the truth about the Michael Brown shooting. Our film reached across the political divide and woke some people up. But more stayed quiet, their fears real after seeing what happens to those who speak out.

Now we live in a Leftist America reshaped after George Floyd. Through it all, Charlie Kirk spoke out bravely. His death made me reflect on my life, and that's when I saw it: nearly everyone I know has been harmed by the Left. But none of these people pitied themselves. Rather, they just shrugged at their fate and kept smiling. Even my father, when he should be enjoying retirement, continues to work every day as he has since seventh grade. So, that moment of reflection gave me the time to draw strength from each one of those souls.

They continue to fight because they refuse to give up the hope that a better America is within their reach. The death of Charlie has only made them more determined. "

-Eli from Man of Steele's Subs.

[Spidy]

This guy Kirk is on record for emphatically asserting that to preserve the "god given" right to arms, it's acceptable to have gun related mass murders. You just got to suck it up. As someone who thinks the "right to bear arms" is only slightly less ridiculous than the "right to arm bears", it's ironic how he left this mortal coil. I wonder if he would still stand by his words. It's depressing to note that the wrong wing will still stand by the unfettered right to arms even when it's responsible for one the death of one of their own.

Charlie Kirk was not a good guy. He cared little about human lives if they conflicted with his political ideology. He further favoured the total evisceration of the Palestinians. He was truly vile person. But even vile people do not deserve to be murdered. This event epitomises to me the very troubling cultural and political warfare going on not just in the US but the west as a whole. The extremism of views on both the wrong wing and the left wing is growing to an extent that I cannot see an off ramp. Society. Any society- can only function in the Arestotlian golden mean, the middle ground. Polarised extreme views eventually tear all societies apart, and democracy is its first victim. We are witnessing the destruction of democracy in front of our very eyes. I fear that the only way in which democracy will be preserved in America is by the splintering of America. That will be truly be a sad day, but like witnessing a car crash in slow motion, I feel this is the inevitable outcome we are descending to.

Well Said!

[Spidy]

The EPS FILES, Fear & Loathing, etc. Etc,

Americans have come to accept that school shootings and political hits are a necessary price to insure freedom and the continuation of the Second Amendment without any changes.

Political Violence

What is Trump going to do now? Send the National Guard to red Utah? Threaten to withhold funds if red Utah doesn't get its act together? If he really wants to address crime, how about cut the bullshit political theater and take on the gun violence in this country with some sensible gun reform? We've got to do something! The time for only prayers is long over. It's time for action! God helps those who help themselves. Instead, he and people from the right say the violence is all coming from the left. That's bullshit! It starts at the top. Remember Trump talking about "carrying people out on stretchers"? And that's just a little scratch on the surface. The Minnesota shootings. Shapiro's house firebombed. Hammer attack on Paul Pelosi! January 6th! We could go on and on, but the point is that the violent rhetoric and acts are coming from both sides, including the MAGA movement itself. Until everyone can acknowledge that reality the problem won't get any better. It will only get worse! Enough is enough! Ya basta!

You are BOTH correct on all accounts!

With regards to the signs of such political violence and the deepening political and cultural divisions in America, which allegorically for some time now, has seen the proverbial writing on the wall, but have chosen to turn a blind eye.

The incident underscores the urgent need for de-escalation and dialogue, but I suspect, in the current climate, it may instead fuel more violence and conspiracy theories, given this MAGA toxic "strongman" fueled induced era.

Again, the long-term impact will depend mainly on how our so called "leaders" and the public choose to respond to this incident.

No doubt this will be the perfect (temporary) distraction for the MAGA Fuhrer, as further evidence is uncovered, with regards to his involvement with the Jeffery Epstein Pedo Sex Files (EPSF) case, with the release of Epstein's "birthday book" and the JP Morgan $1.1 (or $1.5??) Billion dollar cash withdrawals, for his criminal child sex trafficking enterprise.

The MAGA Fuhrer, is more likely to use this shooting incident, to reinforce his narrative, of him being a victim of political violence, (not owning up, to his role in the stochastic-terrorism he constantly put out there), only to no doubt justify expanding executive powers, and divert attention from his involvement on the Epstein child sex trafficking case.

[RamDavidson84]

Is this MDS1, claiming victimhood? (...kkkk!)

Well if it is...take a good look in the mirror and tell me what you see? I'd really like to know?

Yeah, NO!

Allow me to set the record straight! That would be YOUR sycophant VP, JD Vance who coined the phrase, and called your Fuhrer, the "America's Hitler"! So you can thank JD Vance for that! Besides, our own MDS1, thinks of it, as a term of endearment. (...kkkk!).

Oh really, I seem to recall just days ago when, RamDavidson, wrote:

• "....Trump could kill a man on the White House lawn and no one would care as long it puts money in people's pocket....", http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...21#post3024421

.

Please stop twisting my words. I did not say Trump was killing people on the White House lawn and advocating for violence. It was an exaggeration of speech to show Trump is very popular with his supporters as long as he is making them money.

I have tried to reply to this several times now and the Admin keeps blocking my posts.

I also think it is disgusting you would bring my dead friend up. Shows what type of human you are.

[Spidy]

In promoting hate speech towards Trump voters.

You have called me a Nazi, a fascist, etc when I try to reply my posts are blocked.

Is this MDS1, claiming victimhood? (...kkkk!)

Well if it is...take a good look in the mirror and tell me what you see? I'd really like to know?

Conspiracy land? ... calling Trump the Fuhrer, certainly that would justify assassination of him. In fact, that is what so many of you Democratic douches call for in the wake of Kirk's death, make Trump next.

Yeah, NO! ...Allow me to set the record straight!

That would be YOUR sycophant VP, JD Vance who coined the phrase, and called your Fuhrer, the "America's Hitler"! So you can thank JD Vance for that! Besides, our own MDS1, thinks of it, as a term of endearment. (...kkkk!).

... If that is not a call to violence, I do not know what is. In his fucked up head, killing Trump is certainly the answer to everything evil in the world.
...
And you accuse of us of conspiracy? LOL. That is rich. You Democratic douches advocate for violence time and again and then are shocked when it happens? Get the fuck out of here!

Oh really, I seem to recall just days ago when, RamDavidson, wrote:

• "....Trump could kill a man on the White House lawn and no one would care as long it puts money in people's pocket....", http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...21#post3024421

Basically, saying your MAGA Fuhrer, could commit MURDER, so long as "people's pockets" are filled with money. So get your freakin' facts straight, when it comes to who (especially on ISG), is the one advocating violence! Dude, open freakin' eyes!

And while your at it, don't be a sucker, and wise up to the MAGA criminal element, that is so rampant, currently in the White House.

... to call Trump the Fuhrer and his followers Nazis and think that violence would not unfold?

(...kkkk!) While it's true, there maybe American Nazis, that are followers and/or are members of your Fuhrer's QAnon/MAGA political party (since JD Vance did call him America's Hitler), but it remains to be seen:

• ...when did I call MAGA suckers/cultists...Nazis? {...please provide the post link...}

The only one here calling MAGA suckers, Nazis,...is YOU!

[Beijing4987]

Americans have come to accept that school shootings and political hits are a necessary price to insure freedom and the continuation of the Second Amendment without any changes.

[The Cane]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...assassination/

He did a good job generating plenty of hate himself with his reprehensible views. Still, he did not deserve to be murdered. But remember what I said about the Trump assassination attempts. In life you're going to reap what you sow. That’s true for every single one of us. If you sow hatred, violence, and division? Then that's going to come back on you. You shall reap what you sow!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...quotes-beliefs

[The Cane]

Hammer attack was from a left wing SF resident Minnesota shooter worked for Tampon Tim, don't forget the child trans butcher 2 weeks ago killing the kids praying, Shapiros house was firebombed. By a Jew hating leftist, don't leave out the harmless young girl butchered on the train in Charlotte the other day, the only one senselessly murdered on J6 was a fine MAGA patriot Ashley Babbit.

You are quite delusional.

You are nothing more than an insulting, intellectually dishonest individual whose type is well known on the internet, not worthy of anyone's time here. After this post you will have no more of mine. I suppose you have an "alibi" for those who sought to kidnap governor Whitmer too? No, MAGA isn't responsible for any of this. It's all everyone else's fault. Right! It started when Trump came down that escalator spewing his vile rhetoric. Left wing radical, right wing reactionary, or just plain deranged lunatic! The point is that regardless of one's views people are catching the violence all around. Nobody is immune. Healthcare CEO shot from behind on the street! That's point number 1. And point 2 is that there's plenty of blame to go around. So stop with the finger wagging and finger pointing, and on the issue either lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way! Intellectual honesty requires a recognition of what's wrong on both the left and the right, something you clearly are incapable of, making you a part of the problem "Flintstone". Using what happened to try to score political points is just sickening. Willful ignorance. Intellectual dishonesty. That's you. Yabba dabba doo!