American Politics

[MarquisdeSade1]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3037875]Yes potentially you could have been correct. But I'm not so sure, that would have been the case. A slightly longer holdout (of about 14 days) up to Thanksgiving, would have been a tremendous additional "bad look" on the Fuhrer and his clown admin, that consistently claim to care about hardworking Americans.

• that indelible message of "the MAGA Fuhrer's Thanksgiving CRUELTY",

as he chooses to starve vulnerable American families and children, unpaid government workers and as millions of American families struggle or left stranded over the holiday, due to FAA/TSA flight safety delays, cancellations and shutdowns, while juxtaposed with pictures of woman dancing in giant cocktail glass at 'Great Gatsby' and 'Marie Antoinette' decadent styled parties, would have cemented in the minds of most Americans, that the CRUELTY is the point,[NOPARSE] when comes to the MAGA Fuhrer and the Repubs.
[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/dr-oz-aca-fraud/2025/11/17/id/1234936/[/URL]

[MarquisdeSade1]

Reply on Epstein.

But will any of it effect Trump or Republicans in any way? Nope, When they release the files some no name politicians on both sides of the spectrum will take the fall to appease the public. I am not saying that's right, I am just saying what's going to happen. Top officials in government have been covering this up for years, its not just Trump. Its just convenient for dems now to try and pin it on Trump, but in the end after they clearly show he has nothing to do with this, it will only make him more of an anti hero. Again, I am not saying that is right, just telling you what is going to happen.

I am also not buying 1000 under age girls raped and sold into sexual slavery, I am sure there were some, but I have a gut feeling most of these girls were over 18 and knew exactly what they were doing doing. I saw some girl who was 19 and referring to herself as a "victim" in an interview. Sorry you take money to jack off an old rich guy at 19 years old and you get no sympathy from me. 19 is an adult and you know what the fuckin game is by that point..

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...s-under-biden/

[MarquisdeSade1]

While the topic of the day might be the The ChristoFascist Mike / Trump / MAGA Pedo Protection Racket known as the GOP Majority Congress, has the Mainstream Media bothered to mention this being a Big Day for Donald Promises Made, Promises Kept Trump regarding those terrible, terrible gas prices he said he would lower on Day One?

We just hit a special Trump milestone on that issue; the average price of a gallon of regular gasoline in the USA today is higher than it was yesterday, higher than it was a week ago, higher than it was a month ago and, lookie lookie here, higher than it was a year ago under Biden!

Congratulations, MAGA! And thank you and especially that relative handful of angry Muslims in the only 3 swing states that mattered whose vote swing from a Dem to a Repub by less than 0. 75 of a single percentage point in order to punish the Biden Administration for its support for Israel in the Israel-Gaza War, which they extrapolated to be support for Netanyahu, who they hated, is the sole reason Trump squeezed out a razor-thin victory this time..

But Tokyo Rose / Hanoi Jane and Goatanus don't mind Theyre hiding behind enemy lines in CCPland.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...m-work-permit/

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/202...icas-bad-guys/

[RamDavidson84]

O'brother, you can't be this naive...can you? I mean, there is just SO MUCH MORE going on with the Jeffery Epstein Pedo Sex Files (EPSF), than whether or not your MAGA Fuhrer was or wasn't participating in the same predatory behavior. Again, with regards to the EPSF, there is so much more going on, than meets the eye, just watch and all will be revealed.

They say cognitive dissonance is a dangerous drug!

Well Okay...maybe not a drug per say, but rather, a psychological discomfort.

So YOU of all people, should (maybe?) understand, the current cognitive dissonance predicament, that House Repubs (and very soon the Senate Repubs) find themselves embroiled in, as your MAGA Fuhrer, censures, disavows and declares, more non-yielding unfaithful loyalists that won't LIE for him...excommunicado!.

Reply on Epstein.

But will any of it effect Trump or Republicans in any way? Nope, When they release the files some no name politicians on both sides of the spectrum will take the fall to appease the public. I am not saying that's right, I am just saying what's going to happen. Top officials in government have been covering this up for years, its not just Trump. Its just convenient for dems now to try and pin it on Trump, but in the end after they clearly show he has nothing to do with this, it will only make him more of an anti hero. Again, I am not saying that is right, just telling you what is going to happen.

I am also not buying 1000 under age girls raped and sold into sexual slavery, I am sure there were some, but I have a gut feeling most of these girls were over 18 and knew exactly what they were doing doing. I saw some girl who was 19 and referring to herself as a "victim" in an interview. Sorry you take money to jack off an old rich guy at 19 years old and you get no sympathy from me. 19 is an adult and you know what the fuckin game is by that point.

Epstein is still a human trafficker and a rapist and deserved to die a peasant's death, but I am skeptical of the 1000 plus underage girls being pimped out. And to also be very clear, any politician that sought out under age girls from Epstein should get life sentence as well. I am not condoning the cover up in anyway. I am just saying Epstein files are not political and they will expose politicians on the left, right, and every which way but loose. I can't blame Dems for how they are playing their cards in regards to the files, that's the world of politics at the moment and they need all the ammo they can get after being crushed single handedly by Donald in 2024.

And I am so confident on no charges or evidence ever convicting Trump, I give you my word, I will delete my account and never post again if Trump is convicted on any type of crime related to Epstein files. Based on all the evidence, files get released and show Trump to be a hero who cut ties with Epstein once he found out about his dirty dealings.

[Sirioja]

I'm very proud my beloved little France will give 100 war planes to Ukraine to protect versus criminal dictator Putin, when senile orange was not able for anything versus him.

[EihTooms]

While the topic of the day might be the The ChristoFascist Mike / Trump / MAGA Pedo Protection Racket known as the GOP Majority Congress, has the Mainstream Media bothered to mention this being a Big Day for Donald Promises Made, Promises Kept Trump regarding those terrible, terrible gas prices he said he would lower on Day One?

We just hit a special Trump milestone on that issue; the average price of a gallon of regular gasoline in the USA today is higher than it was yesterday, higher than it was a week ago, higher than it was a month ago and, lookie lookie here, higher than it was a year ago under Biden!

Congratulations, MAGA! And thank you and especially that relative handful of angry Muslims in the only 3 swing states that mattered whose vote swing from a Dem to a Repub by less than 0. 75 of a single percentage point in order to punish the Biden Administration for its support for Israel in the Israel-Gaza War, which they extrapolated to be support for Netanyahu, who they hated, is the sole reason Trump squeezed out a razor-thin victory this time.

https://gasprices.aaa.com/

It's a shame the typically pro Repub MSM is not headlining this special occasion for Trump. They sure as hell would be leading with it on every newscast and internet site if it happened under Biden at this point in his presidency. LOL.

[Spidy]

We all can't wait for the release of the files, because it will show Trump did nothing wrong. How do I know this? If Trump did anything even slightly controversial, it would have come out long ago.
...

To be very fair though, if the files do show something serious, as if Trump really did engage in behavior which is truly a felony, then I have no problem apologizing to everyone for anything I have stated on this subject and will clearly admit I am wrong. But that isn't going to happen because there is nothing in the files.

O'brother, you can't be this naive...can you? I mean, there is just SO MUCH MORE going on with the Jeffery Epstein Pedo Sex Files (EPSF), than whether or not your MAGA Fuhrer was or wasn't participating in the same predatory behavior. Again, with regards to the EPSF, there is so much more going on, than meets the eye, just watch and all will be revealed.

They say cognitive dissonance is a dangerous drug!

"Cognitive dissonance is not a drug; it refers to the psychological discomfort experienced when a person holds conflicting beliefs or values. This discomfort can lead to stress and may motivate individuals to change their beliefs or behaviors to achieve consistency." ---Google Asst/Wikipedia

Well Okay...maybe not a drug per say, but rather, a psychological discomfort.

So YOU of all people, should (maybe?) understand, the current cognitive dissonance predicament, that House Repubs (and very soon the Senate Repubs) find themselves embroiled in, as your MAGA Fuhrer, censures, disavows and declares, more non-yielding unfaithful loyalists that won't LIE for him...excommunicado!

Take the latest defection (maybe to soon to tell?), from Marjorie Taylor Green (MTG) for instance? With children and a daughter of her own, no doubt she could hardly reconcile, the notion that reportedly over 1,000 girls were sexually abused, and her Fuhrer still won't release the EPSF and continues to deny and gaslight MAGA nation about his long-standing friend's (Epstein & Maxwell) pedophilia and child sex trafficking ring, was just a hoax, he so disparately wants everyone to believes.

I imagine, right up until Tuesday's vote to release the EPSF, that cognitive dissonance that manifests itself as "psychological discomfort" (you know what I mean), could be lethal if not managed correctly. After all, how do you look your constituency and family members (especially your daughters, wives, mothers, sisters, nieces, grandmothers, ...etc,), and tell them you choose blind loyalty to a wannabe dictator, child sex traffickers and pedophiles, over the rights of 1000+ girls, who were sexually abused, and their right to be heard and to see justice?

My suggestion to you, is for you to...SIT BACK, RELAX and ENJOY the all the backstabbing, finger-pointing, uncomfortable squirming, "psychological discomfort" and Republican political fallout (as is currently happening with the aforementioned MTG), that will occur, IMHO, as this beautiful self-inflected "wedge issue" (called EPSF) works it's magic, that I spoke of, in a previous post.

[EihTooms]

BTW, I meant to ask, why those 8 Senators, couldn't have taken more time (say 14-days perhaps?? ...kkkk!) to suss out and remove that bogus provision for those 8 or so Repub Senators (like Lindsey Graham), from possibly, receiving a million (plus) dollar payday retroactively, from the LEGAL federal investigation searches, of their phone records (not phone tapping), without their knowledge in relation to Special Prosecutor Jack Smith's probe into President Donald Trump's role in the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol?

Why the special treatment for them? In their rush to pass the bill, did the Senators ignore that fact, this is just another one of the MAGA Fuhrer's picket-pocket schemes, to payoff loyalists, with taxpayers money? It does kinda makes those Senators look a bit impulsive and somewhat duplicitous in this Repub ruse?

Funding Bill Lets GOP Senators Sue for $1M Payouts Related to Jan. 6 Probe, Nov 13th, 2025. https://truthout.org/articles/fundin...o-jan-6-probe/.

I doubt you'd be in favor of this provision, but it does beg the question, "...did the 8 Senators (Dem & Indp), not see this?" What was the rush to include this exclusive Senators ONLY "big payday" provision?

Three of the Dems were already on board with signing the CR from the beginning so there was no calculated "timing" involved in their decision. The other 5 were obviously the safest ones to do it because they were not up for an election anytime soon. But I have no doubt that if 1-5 of them had refused to sign another 1-5 from the Dem caucus would have stepped in to do it.

To allow the Trump / Repub Shutdown to continue past the point where Trump and all of the Congressional Repubs had finally caved on their position re Federal worker layoffs and backpay as well as SNAP would have been inflicting more unnecessary pain on the American people given the pending FAA-related Thanksgiving Holiday travel schedule. As it is, the FAA still might not be fully staffed and ready to go that weekend. It was that close.

Imagine for a moment if there is a horrble plane crash during the upcoming holiday travel period. The FAA is already hobbled and primed for such an outcome thanks to President Musk and DOGE.

But it would be blamed on everyone who didn't sign on the line which is dotted to get the government up and running again.

As it is now, the blame for the Shutdown falls squarely on Trump and the Repubs, in all likelihood the ACA-related issues will still fall in favor of America and the Dems and the American people will be free to discuss the Trump / MAGA Pedo Protection Racket over their turkey dinners instead of blaming everyone for everything which like all "bothsider" BS only helps Repubs win elections that will empower them to inflict more pain and damage to the American people and thr USA economy.

Impossible to control every slithering twist and turn of those Repub snakes re whatever big payday they have conned out of someone along the way. On balance and bottom line, the Dems won the Trump / MAGA Repub Government Shutdown bigly. Which is much better for America than the alternative.

[MarquisdeSade1]

https://ccf.georgetown.edu/2025/01/2...e-in-medicaid/

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/...ts-in-gop-bill

https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-a...ud-waste-abuse

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/sna...16/id/1234782/

[RamDavidson84]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3037875]Yes potentially you could have been correct. But I'm not so sure, that would have been the case. A slightly longer holdout (of about 14 days) up to Thanksgiving, would have been a tremendous additional "bad look" on the Fuhrer and his clown admin, that consistently claim to care about hardworking Americans.

• that indelible message of "the MAGA Fuhrer's Thanksgiving CRUELTY",

as he chooses to starve vulnerable American families and children, unpaid government workers and as millions of American families struggle or left stranded over the holiday, due to FAA/TSA flight safety delays, cancellations and shutdowns, while juxtaposed with pictures of woman dancing in giant cocktail glass at 'Great Gatsby' and 'Marie Antoinette' decadent styled parties, would have cemented in the minds of most Americans, that the CRUELTY is the point,[NOPARSE] when comes to the MAGA Fuhrer and the Repubs.[/QUOTE]Who or what hurt you to make you think humans are so cruel? None of this is true except in your own mind, this is a clear sign of Trump Derangement syndrome. Please try and recognize your illness so you can find help for yourself and people who suffer from this affliction.

[Spidy]

And that is the only part of the Trump / MAGA Repub Government Shutdown that was left on the table not Won by the Dems. So to prolong the suffering of everyone else over the Thanksgiving Holidays, the layoffs with no pay and no settlement about backpay, the suspension of SNAP, etc ...

BTW, I meant to ask, why those 8 Senators, couldn't have taken more time (say 14-days perhaps?? ...kkkk!) to suss out and remove that bogus provision for those 8 or so Repub Senators (like Lindsey Graham), from possibly, receiving a million (plus) dollar payday retroactively, from the LEGAL federal investigation searches, of their phone records (not phone tapping), without their knowledge in relation to Special Prosecutor Jack Smith's probe into President Donald Trump's role in the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol?

Why the special treatment for them? In their rush to pass the bill, did the Senators ignore that fact, this is just another one of the MAGA Fuhrer's picket-pocket schemes, to payoff loyalists, with taxpayers money? It does kinda makes those Senators look a bit impulsive and somewhat duplicitous in this Repub ruse?

Funding Bill Lets GOP Senators Sue for $1M Payouts Related to Jan. 6 Probe, Nov 13th, 2025. https://truthout.org/articles/fundin...o-jan-6-probe/.

I doubt you'd be in favor of this provision, but it does beg the question, "...did the 8 Senators (Dem & Indp), not see this?" What was the rush to include this exclusive Senators ONLY "big payday" provision?

[Spidy]

Bear in mind that only about 6% of the country benefits from the ACA / Obamacare. And that is the only part of the Trump / MAGA Repub Government Shutdown that was left on the table not Won by the Dems. So to prolong the suffering of everyone else over the Thanksgiving Holidays, the layoffs with no pay and no settlement about backpay, the suspension of SNAP, etc, all of which Trump and his MAGA Repubs flipped / caved on, ran the realistic risk that the pain of the American people in general matching or exceeding the political pain of Trump and his MAGA Repubs, which would foster resentment against the Dems for not flipping / caving rather than fostering an intensification of their publicly-demonstrated and electorally-proven resentment of Trump and his MAGA Repubs.

Yes potentially you could have been correct. But I'm not so sure, that would have been the case. A slightly longer holdout (of about 14 days) up to Thanksgiving, would have been a tremendous additional "bad look" on the Fuhrer and his clown admin, that consistently claim to care about hardworking Americans.

• that indelible message of "the MAGA Fuhrer's Thanksgiving CRUELTY",

as he chooses to starve vulnerable American families and children, unpaid government workers and as millions of American families struggle or left stranded over the holiday, due to FAA/TSA flight safety delays, cancellations and shutdowns, while juxtaposed with pictures of woman dancing in giant cocktail glass at 'Great Gatsby' and 'Marie Antoinette' decadent styled parties, would have cemented in the minds of most Americans, that the CRUELTY is the point, when comes to the MAGA Fuhrer and the Repubs.

Again, this was an incredible missed opportunity, when you consider, some of the worst and lowest approval ratings in history by a sitting president, with most polls showing 33% to 36% for the MAGA Fuhrer and often only marginally better for the Repubs, IMO it was the perfect time to apply a little more pressure and milk the situation.

With the wind in the sail's of Dems, due to the massive turnouts in the BIG WIN 2025 Elections and the polls indicating fairly strong approval of the Dems, a holdout of 2-weeks more, would have been just fine. Again, IMHO, right after a big win,...was no time for Dems to go soft!

And that one element left on the table not Won by the Dems? The extension of the added subsidies for the ACA / Obamacare necessary now for the same reason they were necessary and enacted during Trump's Pandemic; because Trump's economic policies and stewardship are so disastrously bad the American Working Men and Women are suffering too much to buy groceries, god I'm glad Trump invented that word, and gas, pay their mortgage, pay for healthcare, etc, and all while prices and the rate of inflation are higher this year under Trump than they were last year under Biden and while, sure enough, Trump's jobs creation numbers are once again horrible?

So while President Biden, was there to administer relief and help for vulnerable Americans, in the way of boosted ACA tax credits, as you've noted, because of the MAGA Fuhrer's economic policies and stewardship were so disastrous, it remains to be seen, (especially when you consider the MAGA Fuhrer's pandemic {luckily}, happened at the end of his presidency), who's going to be there to administer the relief for Americans this time around, only slightly less than a year into this MAGA shit-show administrative term?

See, those congressional MAGA Repubs' Red State constituents make up a big chunk of that aforementioned 6% and are as likely if not more likely to be relying on the extension of those additional ACA / Obamacare subsidies than Blue States! Therefore, the pressure on those Congressional MAGA Repubs to agree to an extension as a stand alone, clearly focused vote will be tremendous.

Jeffries and Schumer know this.

Or.

The Congressional MAGA Repubs will vote NO on extending those subsidies and they will enter a midterm year after having jacked up millions of their constitients' healthcare costs by 100%, 200% or more.

Jeffries and Schumer knows this, too.

At which point, the Dems will be in the best position possible to win the most House seats and possibly some Senate seats in order to stop and undue the Trump / MAGA destruction of America and its economy beginning in January 2027.

Yep. Jeffries and Schumer know this, too.

Okay, you make a good point, that by requiring Repubs (on record) to vote on ACA subsidies/extensions, as a "stand alone" vote, as their constituency suffering in red states, ratchets up the pressure...just maybe a better way politically, but what will be the fallout from the 4 to 6 million Americans without healthcare coverage in the long term? And lets not forget the fallout from the OBBB ACT, with a reported 15 million (??) Americans, that will lose Medicaid assistance?

So while we don't agree, on my "...fight the good fight" and suffer a little for 14 additional days, up to Thanksgiving, "...is or isn't worth it?...", in the grand schemes of things, it pales in comparison to the real suffrage, that looms large for million of vulnerable American's healthcare.

[EihTooms]

WOWWW I tried to watch it, sorry not a chance, 1 min was way too much
A low IQ Quack for sure, he is a "psychologist" which is a joke to begin with, then he has the temerity to claim Our Lord and Savior suffers from a condition.

That isn't even a recognized condition except by him lolol then the last straw is I can't speak with or listen to anyone that speaks with their fucking eyes closed.

That's just creepy and psycho, please don't post crap like this fool again.

I'm seriously disappointed in you. Not.

That fleeting of an attention span before rushing to your next lie would be a symptom of a serious personality disorder similar to that of your lord and savior.

[The Cane]

Domestic enemy rolls out the red carpet for foreign enemies of America:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/16/polit...mp-white-house

[MarquisdeSade1]

Unfortunately, it is impossible to refute a word of this professional analysis of the biggest problem America and the rest of the World has ever had to face:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9OtO-cypKmY

A low IQ Quack for sure, he is a "psychologist" which is a joke to begin with, then he has the temerity to claim Our Lord and Savior suffers from a condition.

That isn't even a recognized condition except by him lolol then the last straw is I can't speak with or listen to anyone that speaks with their fucking eyes closed.

That's just creepy and psycho, please don't post crap like this fool again.

I'm seriously disappointed in you. Not.