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12-12-25 10:29 #20054Senior Member

Posts: 7971Uh
The headline in your linked NYT article, presumably posted by you to "prove" your contention:
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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Top Journal Retracts Study Predicting Catastrophic Climate Toll.
While growing evidence shows that carbon emissions are harming the economy, the journal Nature found that an outlier paper had deep flaws.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/03/b...retracted.html
Since almost nobody without a NYT subscription can read your linked article after that headline, was the "outlier" paper with deep flaws the one joining everyone else on the carbon emissions / global climate change conclusion or the rare one that argued against it?
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12-12-25 07:10 #20053Senior Member

Posts: 1959What is braggadocios Pete, hiding with the 22nd strike?
Your unfounded opinions aside, here are some REAL FACTS about your beloved Pete Hegseth:
Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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Pete "Double Tap" Hegseth, is a known and complete fuckup! He's a known drunk (who now claims to have stopped), and was arrested for sexual assault and then paid $50K NDA, to the women who accused him of a 2017 sexual assault, to make this "nuisance" suit quietly go away. But even his own mother called him "an abuser of women". And this is just the tip of the iceberg, as I could go on!
Wisely, Americans have grown to realize that unless they see real evidence and facts from this MAGA 2.0 shit-show admin, then don't believe a fucking word that come out of it's lying corrupt mouth or press releases. Hegseth, Bondi and Patel, are like the 3-Stooges,...all very comical and all very idiotically entertaining.
Let's see what a congressional or other investigations uncover, because it's very suspicious, how the dude proudly releases Notice how the idiot Hegseth, proudly flaunts the release of the previous first 21 strikes, which are of course used as public relations tools, for you MAGA dolts and suckers, to think the administration is doing "real work" against drug trafficking.
But the fact remains, anyone with half-brain, would ask themselves, why isn't braggadocios Pete proudly flaunting the 22nd strike video? Why is it being withheld? It is perhaps no doubt due to its content, which shows a legally and ethically questionable "double-tap" war crime strike on survivors?
BTW, RamDavidson84, notice a common MAGA lawless theme here? Something all too familiar, about MAGA politicians not releasing evidence to Americans?
That'S RIGHT...just like your MAGA Fuhrer's guilty conscience, with not releasing the Epstein Pedo Sex Files (EPSF), I suspect Hegseth must be going through the very same angst...ya think?
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12-12-25 05:16 #20052Senior Member

Posts: 4832This is what is so maddening about you Democrats. Your arrogance is rooted in your bullshit explanations for your fuckups.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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This is what I mean. Anyone should be able to see the scientific method at work. Here is the theory. Here is the data. Does it prove the theory or not? Status of the scientist should not matter.
The fact is both Time and Newsweek had the earth surrounded in an ice cube. The earth was getting colder. The winters in the 1970's were brutal. And the stories were the same. The cooling was man's fault and cue the scientists who say it is the fault of man.
Thing is CO2 levels were only able to be measured since 1955, and they were going up as we had this cooling. Then AlGore comes along twenty years later and now man is causing global warming, and rising CO2 levels are to blame, and it is the same doom and gloom we are all going to die bullshit unless we "do something".
And global warming slows down and the name is changed to climate change and now people are laughing off the entire concept of climate change.
The theory did not change. The money being spent on the theory has dried up because no one wants to talk about it anymore. Energy companies have been mostly Republican and it was fine to beat the snot out of them but when the silicon valley guys, the money arm of the Dems, was going to get beat up because of a lack of electricity driving AI growth, this theory was finally thrown on the trash heap where it belongs. The data NEVER matched the theory, and anyone with a brain could see it.
And now there is the consensus bullshit again. Science is data. Consensus is poltical. And the notion of God being mad at you and that is why there is no rain for your crops is the oldest fucking con there is. You Democrats fell for the con hook, line, and sinker just like you did with Covid. Instead of it being a bunch of swindlers driving into town with a carnival, it was con men with PHD behind their names sucking up to the pols and Hollywood elite. "You all are so special. You really understand how climate change works unlike those dumb Republicans. "
It is so funny how anyone who says Trump is not pure evil is accused of loving him so much. Trump fucked up the pandemic response. Bush let banks get away with murder, and the war in Iraq was a disaster. But with you guys and Biden? Oh, he was great. Kamala Harris was perfect. She would have been way better than Trump.
That is what gets me with Democrats. You are so arrogant and patronizing when time after time you have been so stupid and made these horrific fuckups. The trillion dollar climate change fuckup is melting away in our eyes, and the only thing you can say, "Can you believe Trump called a reporter Piggy? Man, those MAGA guys are dumb. "
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12-12-25 03:01 #20051Senior Member

Posts: 878LOL, A whole of charges from the same group of people who falsely impeached Trump twice and made him America's ultimate anti-hero. It's the same divisive shit. War charges for killing narco terrorists who are illegally smuggling in deadly poison which will kill hundreds, maybe thousands of Americans is a total waste of time and further divides the country. Hegseth did nothing wrong in my eyes, but I will admit he doesn't appear to be hardened enough for the job and I am kind of disappointed in him. He doesn't seem like he takes the heat well, unlike Trump who is never phased from the bullshit attacks. Hegseth does need to toughen up if he wants to run that position properly.
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12-12-25 01:44 #20050Senior Member

Posts: 4040More Bullshit lies from Tokyo Rose
I remember the magazine covers I even did a school paper, I don't remember the magazine I used either Time or Newsweek.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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More bullshit revisionist lies from the NYT and you.
Outliers my ass!! No surprise, you're a pathological LIAR on every single issue.
They are slowly trying to change the fucking narrative like they do with everything!!
https://www.breitbart.com/border/202...peat-offender/
They deserve them.
Our Lord and Savior should scoop them all up all over the country and deport them to LA county instead of Latin America they certainly don't want them back.
They refer to them as "yesterdays trash".
Only problem I see, is that they would cheat the US Census and count them when they apportion house seats.
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12-11-25 17:55 #20049Senior Member

Posts: 429You forgot something
What about the bailout of Argentina to the tune of $20 billion dollars? It would be non starter for the federal government to bail out a state (where Americans live) but it's okay to undercut Americans in agriculture and farming?
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12-11-25 17:54 #20048Senior Member

Posts: 4832About 60% of American workers have retirement accounts so I do not get how the average worker has been going through hell. And if the average working is in hell right now, what do you call it if there is a recession? Worse than hell? Is there even such a thing? That is what I mean about Democratic arrogance and hyperbole.
Originally Posted by Mosquito2002
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I did not say everything was great.
Originally Posted by Mosquito2002
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Well, vaccines do produce an immune response. The theory of vaccines and with all but two of them it is just theory that boosting the immune system versus some diseases has more benefits than risks. I am a vaccine agnostic then and I am skeptical of anyone who claims to know otherwise. If you are a vaccine believer then, it is NOT based on science.
Originally Posted by Mosquito2002
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The crazy part with hepatitis be though is that the virus is spread the same way AIDS is. Is there a problem then with infants shooting up heroin and engaging in anal sex? Uh no, and that means that you do not know if the vaccine really works for decades, but it can do harm. It seems to me that a more targeted approach with at risk adults would make a whole lot more sense than blasting every infant with it.
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12-11-25 16:04 #20047Senior Member

Posts: 7971No, nobody remembers that because it didn't really happen
Winger bullshitters have been reminding us of that supposed "trend" among scientists in the 1970's that never happened for decades though.
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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As your NYT article accurately characterized such proclamations; they were "outliers". And there was no such consensus among scientists. It was only that the typically pro Repub Mainstream Media tried to suggest there was. Not surprisingly. Your other links say as much:
Cruz on the Global Cooling Myth and Galileo.
https://www.factcheck.org/2015/03/cr...h-and-galileo/
Sen. Ted Cruz cited a 1975 Newsweek article on global cooling to question the evidence of global warming, and in the process made several incorrect and unsubstantiated claims.
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The article in question was a single-page story published on April 28, 1975, by journalist Peter Gwynne. It did indeed paint an ominous picture of a cooling world, with particular concern regarding reductions to crop yields with cooler temperatures. The article, however, was criticized decades later, in May 2014, by its author.
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The survey of the peer-reviewed literature between 1965 and 1979 found only seven papers indicating global cooling compared with 44 papers indicating warming (see chart).
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12-11-25 13:13 #20046Senior Member

Posts: 624Scumbags
Trump and his Criminals just stole Oil from Venezuela!
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12-11-25 12:11 #20045Senior Member

Posts: 1959The two time (2 x) bailouts of red state farmers, is RIGHT-WING socialism!
Yep, all those failed economic policies, leading up to the horrific farmer bailouts (2x now) and handouts (2x now), by the MAGA Fuhrer's and his clown shit-show admin, is once again looking a lot like, right-wing socialism, to the tune of 40 billion ($28 bn 1st term and now $12 bn).
Originally Posted by Mosquito2002
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12-11-25 11:53 #20044Senior Member

Posts: 1959That's a whole lot of criminal charges, for not giving a shit!
You're wrong again, as usual, with your baseless claims!
Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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Apparently not, since your Sec. Def. MAGA idiot, lapdog and sycophant, Pete Hegseth, could be facing multiple criminal and war crimes charges. That's a heck of a lot a shit, to be charge with, for something nobody supposedly doesn't give a shit about. BTW, I'm pretty sure those lawmakers, looking to investigate and make any criminal charges, have wayyyyy more than half-a-brain.
Former JAGs say Hegseth, others may have committed war crimes, Dec 1, 2025 https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...ed-war-crimes/.
I wonder what the Vegas odds are for when your MAGA Fuhrer throws Hegseth under the bus? (...kkkk!) A week from now? A Month? Three Months?
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12-11-25 04:50 #20043Senior Member

Posts: 4040The JIG is up, even says the #1 Global Warming conster
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/03/b...retracted.html
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRaN3-_HFDo
My Industry has a lot of overlap with the scam known as "Global Warming".
I've been saying for 40 yrs that its a Wall St / CCP hoax, American manufacturing bad, send it all to CCPland.
Does anyone remember the 1970's when the covers of many major magazines were warning of the upcoming ICE AGE any day now.
And then the CCP opened to market reforms and BOOM Overnite Oh Shit Global Warming is going to destroy us all.
China officially opened its doors to market reforms in 1978, a pivotal year marked by Deng Xiaoping's leadership initiating the "Reform and Opening-up" (25913;38761;24320;25918 policy to transition from a centrally planned economy towards a market-oriented system, focusing on agriculture, industry, science, and defense. This era saw the establishment of Special Economic Zones (SEZs) like Shenzhen (1980) and policies encouraging private enterprise, leading to rapid economic growth and poverty reduction.
https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/pub...coming-ice-age
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12-11-25 01:05 #20042Senior Member

Posts: 263Almost forgot. How about that 12 Billion Farmers Bailout, nothing like spending taxpayers dollars to fix a problem you caused.
Originally Posted by Mosquito2002
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Now awaiting for the tab for all the lawsuits that have been or will be filed against this administration over immigration enforcement, especially those that violated court orders and the Constitution.
Yup, it'll be the American Taxpayer that'll foot the bill for these. So, it's all good in Trump land.
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12-11-25 00:52 #20041Senior Member

Posts: 263From Hawaii, so by proxy I'm a Democrat. Fact being, I'm not a fan of Harris or any of the top democrats in Congress.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Yea, a lot of millionaires, large corporations and billionaire have done well under this administration. However for the average working American this administration has been hell.
Got to love you vaccine deniers. Won't get into name calling, but you should really do some medical research fact checking.
Also, admire your tunnel vision in your praises of Trump. Again, highly recommend you do some fact checking on who really benefits from Trump's so call accomplishments. It's definitely not the majority of Americans. Yea Yea, if you're a stock trader you're making bank and 401's are profiting. But our National Debt is also skyrocketing.
Lastly, if everything is so great. Why the fuck is the administration hiding both the jobs and inflation reports? Odds of a recession in 2026 at 30-40% BTW.
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12-11-25 00:48 #20040Senior Member

Posts: 1959Electrostate vs. Petrostate: Realizing what it means to be an Electrostate!
First...Gates, Musk and others are not the first or the last, the spineless, billionaires, to blow like a leaf in the wind, and change their political views, given whatever prevailing new political winds blow in. BTW, Algore is making huge bank, investing in clean energy and environment friendly companies.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Second...that was a pretty good rant on RVs, ACs and how to keep warm in one. But sounds like a separate convo/debate. If you want to start a side-debate on how to best heat an RV in the electrical age, then set it up for a side debate...I'm game!
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Perhaps in the next post, you could kindly explain, WTF vaccines, RVs and ACs have to do with, or dovetail into the changing landscape of global businesses transitioning to more cost effective and efficient BEV trucks from traditional diesel trucks and by doing so, benefit from cost saving of ten of thousands of dollars in ROI?
Much of this rant, is pretty much just wholly inaccurate. Both China and Europe are further ahead at becoming electrostate, than the U.S. and therefore perhaps better equipped to handle future AI power needs.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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"...and we build none", yeah that's just not even close. Under your dumbass MAGA 2.0 admin, it is actively promoting the coal industry by opening federal lands for coal mining and providing financial support to modernize coal-fired power plants.
It's funny how the cost of electricity was one of the primary issues at the ballot box in the Dems the Big Blue Wave win in the 2025 Nov Elections. So tell me Elvis 2008, who do you think is paying for the current power (and water) needs of AI, data centers and crypto? Also, how do you think the U.S. is going to manage the fast growing power need of AI? Meaning where is the excess power going to be generated from, especially under the current clown shit-show MAGA admin? Is it nuclear? Is it "Drill Baby Drill"? Or just out of thin air?
That's exactly what BEV trucks and clean energy systems do,...make economic sense. Pepsi, DHL, Walmart, and increased yoy sales of BEV trucks in Europe and China for example, are proving that over and over again.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Third...I've no idea what the hell "...if one voltage wins out" means. But Europe is much further along in electrification and clean energy than you might think, compared with the U.S.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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And yes, if by "The applications are endless", you mean creating and storing your own power from solar/batteries (which your dumbass MAGA Fuhrer is trying to shutdown) and electrifying everything, so that countries, states, or individuals have the means to be self-sufficient and self-reliant (and not depend on gov't...something you should understand), then congratulations...you are finally catching on, to what it means to be an electrostate.

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