Tokyo

[Rick Rock]

Thanks for the review. Her profile indicates "Girl Ok" and a checkmark next to 3 P. Does this mean she'll allow a girl to go down on her?

It means she'll provide erotic massage to a girl, either alone or along with a guy like you. I've had them over to treat girls (one gaijin and one Japanese), and it was great.

[Vendelo]

3P means 3P. It doesn't mean anything else, I wouldn't assume anything like that. 3Ps are ymmv anyways, normal things are likely. Other things are not.

For example, a girl sucks your dick in a 1v1. So in a 3P, both girls will. Even something like expecting the girls to DFK each other, it is ymmv.

Thanks for your response. This is the reason why I asked: I recently met an Indo girl in Jakarta who is dying to eat pussy but has not been able to find a girl. We may meet in Tokyo soon so I am hoping to fulfill her wishes there. And, it's also my wish, and that wish is to be with two girls going at it with each other! Isn't that every guy's dream?

[Traveler X]

Thanks for the review. Her profile indicates "Girl Ok" and a checkmark next to 3P. Does this mean she'll allow a girl to go down on her?

3P means 3P. It doesn't mean anything else, I wouldn't assume anything like that. 3Ps are ymmv anyways, normal things are likely. Other things are not.

For example, a girl sucks your dick in a 1v1. So in a 3P, both girls will. Even something like expecting the girls to DFK each other, it is ymmv.

[Vendelo]

After multiple meetings, I would put Coco from Tokyo Style on my top 3 all time Tokyo erotic massage girls.

https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/therapists/Coco/

Can't say I've found any service at her level, looks, or age in quite a while. It takes me back to the good old days.

With deluxe service she'll basically face sit you nude with her tight little twat on full display while she lovingly sucks every drop of a full load out from the deepest depths of your prostate.

Her English is good and standard massage quality is great. Nothing like having a 20 year old work a kink out of your back before she works the semen out of your testicles.

Thanks for the review. Her profile indicates "Girl Ok" and a checkmark next to 3 P. Does this mean she'll allow a girl to go down on her?

[Rick Rock]

After multiple meetings, I would put Coco from Tokyo Style on my top 3 all time Tokyo erotic massage girls.

https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/therapists/Coco/

Can't say I've found any service at her level, looks, or age in quite a while. It takes me back to the good old days.

With deluxe service she'll basically face sit you nude with her tight little twat on full display while she lovingly sucks every drop of a full load out from the deepest depths of your prostate.

Her English is good and standard massage quality is great. Nothing like having a 20 year old work a kink out of your back before she works the semen out of your testicles.

[StripedFashion]

Hi. Does anyone have a recommendation for hotel (s) that don't require key card for elevator, or allow for guests in after call up to room?

I'll be on a business trip, and can't risk meeting in lobby.

Happy to share info on German / Swiss FKK scene if interested.

A place that worked for me when I stayed in Tokyo is Granbell Hotel Shinjuku. It was the first time I tried THC and while my experience with said provider wasn't my favorite, the hotel elevator didn't require a key card and the outcall was done discreetly.

I had a walk of shame experience at Hotel Koza in Okinawa, trying to sneak an escort into my room and getting shamed by hotel staff. It was quite embarrassing. The front desk was actually fucking laughing at me. So I totally understand. Traveler X and I have discussed this in a previous post.

In Osaka, I used an APA in Namba for 2 outcalls. I met the different escorts outside / in the lobby and since the hotel was very busy it was easy to blend in. The elevator is close to the entrance and before the front desk. I share this experience cause other guests in the elevator knew what I was up to, standing next to the escort and were snickering at me. Another walk of shame moment. Why I should give two fucks about them is anyone's guess but that could've been totally avoided with a more discreet system. On the bright side, said APA hotel had free JAV porn for guests.

I will be in Japan soon to monger but in hotels I have never stayed in, so I will report on how that goes in a future post. I will mostly be staying at Air BNBs on the trip but I already know that would be a very, very bad idea for outcalls. Or is it?

[Traveler X]

Could someone confirm if gingira group take bookings by phone in english thankyou? A late easter trip is looking more and more likely now. I like this agency as face pics are shown clearly.

I texted Gingira by LINE first. Since I wasn't in Japan yet, they wanted to call my phone number for screening. The main purpose of calling me was to make sure I was a real person (not a bot or scammer) and also to make sure I understand the rules (they are all common sense rules like don't hurt the girl as well as cancellation policies). It is for the girls' safety they do this. After that, no problem. And obviously once I see their girl, future bookings are very quick and easy.

With other shops, I booked while I was checked into my hotel. Other shops were much easier than Gingira. Simply providing my hotel info was enough to screen since they could confirm by calling my hotel to reach me (including just making sure the girl is safe). The screening process can depend a lot on whether or not you are already checked in to a hotel in Japan. It is much easier if you are already checked in, since it is easy to prove. And being checked into a hotel proves you are not a bum or robber, you won't do dumb things like hurt the girl. That's all they care about, once they know you are safe they want you to have a good time.

The process is way easier than with korgs, for example. Once you see a girl, 2nd booking is same idea as korgs. But since it's legal, they can actually talk about things (except for FS) as well as send you links to the girls they recommend. For example I asked who was available and they recommended 3 girls. The good thing about TAE is even though their ad photos don't tell you enough about the girl, the stats (height and breast size) were accurate. Keeping in mind that Japan's breast sizing is 1 step off from USA (a Japan the cup is a USA see cup). I have no way to confirm ages, but the girls were all young so you could say that is accurate.

Attached is a breast size cup conversion chart. Girls / shops will "round up" on breast size, so if a girl is in-between be or see they'll say see. I've seen hundreds and hundreds of jgirl breasts at oppai pubs for 22 years. At first I didn't know cup sizes, but after the girls told me their sizes I was able to guess them reasonably accurately (off by 1 sometimes). Then later in the US I realized it was basically off by 1. 5 sizes due to the 1 cup conversion and the. 5 cup "round up". So like the chart shows, if a jgirl says E cup then she might be be-the cup. Be cup if she's just lying by an extra cup, which also happens too.

[StarletVoyager]

Could someone confirm if gingira group take bookings by phone in english thankyou? A late easter trip is looking more and more likely now. I like this agency as face pics are shown clearly.

[Vendelo]

Hi. Does anyone have a recommendation for hotel (s) that don't require key card for elevator, or allow for guests in after call up to room?

I'll be on a business trip, and can't risk meeting in lobby.

Happy to share info on German / Swiss FKK scene if interested.

Thanks!!

I stayed here in Nov. 2023:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/cf5fkNqkfj58eBFZA?g_st=ic

I had four girls from Asian Mystique delivered to my room over four nights.

I provided my room number and the girls took the elevator to my floor.

And walked right into my room because I left my door open.

Excellent location. A couple of blocks from an amazing grocery store:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/wgeGFm3hpoSjD1FE8?g_st=ic

An 8-minute walk to a gym:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/wgeGFm3hpoSjD1FE8?g_st=ic

I'd work out, then walk to York to buy my post workout meal that included wagyu. Out back there's a nice outdoor area with seating where I'd enjoy the wagyu and other pre-cooked foods.

[Traveler X]

Hi. Does anyone have a recommendation for hotel (s) that don't require key card for elevator, or allow for guests in after call up to room?

I'll be on a business trip, and can't risk meeting in lobby.

I'll list out some options. I know it might not help you exactly, but for everyone in this situation. One is to wear a face mask, it is normal in Japan. Meet the girl outside the lobby and escort her up. You could say you ordered a delivery massage which is also normal.

There are just a few hotels that don't require keycard, it's not common "in the city" so to speak (more common at resorts). But they do exist I just don't see it often. You can simply ask the booker once you're screened. But ultimately, if you can choose your hotel then you can also choose a hotel no one you know stays in.

Lastly, Japanese locals have the same caution sometimes. Maybe they're Shohei Ohtani or whatever. So they wear glasses and face mask and go to soapland or order a love hotel to deliver the girl to. The love hotel method is really popular in Japan but yes the first time it can be confusing. But it's really quite normal too, and the booker or even girl can help you.

DH is completely legal, it is the same as going to a strip club. Yes, once the doors close with DH or a strip club you can ask the girl for extra stuff but the door is closed. So I get that no one wants to be "caught at a strip club" except that experience tells me it goes both ways. If you catch your coworker at the strip club, you caught him too! Bro code means neither of you will say anything. Or just say it wasn't you, it is dark and there are plenty of lookalikes people the world over.

A wise man once gave me this advice to deal with your situation:

But she caught me on the counter (It wasn't me)
Saw me bangin' on the sofa (It wasn't me)
I even had her in the shower (It wasn't me)
She even caught me on camera (It wasn't me)
She saw the marks on my shoulder (It wasn't me)
Heard the words that I told her (It wasn't me)
Heard the screams gettin' louder (It wasn't me)
She stayed until it was over

I have tried each one of those things except for the sofa.

95% of guys know the bro code. The other 5%, it wasn't you.

[Traveler X]

I live in California and gave up on Chinese providers once I discovered the KGirl! Without disclosing too much personal information, where are you located, e. G, east coast, Midwest, southern California, etc.

Are these Chinese girls in their early 20's and shaved?

If it's Socal where there are tons of decent cgirls, here's the problem. You notice how I describe cgirls as "two types" - the young 20s HYA cgirls versus the auntie / grandma types. I hope we all understand that the grannies have skills and are pretty awesome to the guys who are into that, they are cheap and good service. Not for you or me, but glad they make some guys happy or those guys would be seeing HYA and demanding too much. But the HYA cgirls are highly priced with about a 25% to 50% premium over a kgirl. I have seen some 500 hr cgirl who were hot, but she soon raised her priced to 600 hr. There were many other 500 hr cgirls who couldn't compete with a 350 hr kgirl in either looks or service. Really, what it is is there are a lot of Chinese FOBs who can't use korgs or don't live near them. And they value a girl who can speak Chinese. I get it, it makes sense for them.

The 800 to 1500 hr cgirls are generally HYA, my friends have seen them. Almost no one sees those girls, just a few rich guys of course. So to them, the price doesn't matter it is the exclusivity they like. Luxury pricing. I'm not going to see them because there are kgirls at 400 to 600 hr who are just as hot as the cgirls. When I finally run out of S-Tier kgirls and S-Tier jgirls, sure I'll try some S-Tier cgirls at double the price. But it hasn't ever happened yet. I believe my friends that the cgirls are good, but they also know they are overpaying so to speak. At the 800 and above level, you are paying for exclusivity and not hotness. A college girl you wouldn't think would do this and doesn't see a lot of guys. But to be clear, the 600 hr kgirl is way better in looks and skill. Some are obviously better looking to anyone with two eyes. The cgirl is just more innocent and untouched so to speak.

Due to the super premium pricing, it's not a fair comparison. A few of the kgirls have worked corgs where they were superstars. And of course, jgirls are competing directly with cgirls too. So even the Chinese FOBs get a say on who is really better. The irony is when a kgirl superstar is really popular at a corg, she tends to get "promoted" to korgs. Several S-Tier and A-Tier kgirls went that route.

I don't actually recommend corgs to anyone, it is only for certain guys where it will make sense. In Socal specifically, korgs are better for 80% of guys. Even Thai orgs are better for many guys. But not every region or city has good ones. In NYC corgs make way more sense, the NYC korgs rarely get superstars but usually the B and C Team "backup" kgirls. If you are sure you going to a corg, here are some tips:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7426841 Corg tips 1
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7427535 Corg tips 2

In Socal they are most ideal for Chinese FOBs. But if your friend is a Chinese FOB he can get you in so bless their heart. A few White people are let in if they are gentlemen and maintain a good rep, plus some other races if they are grandfathered in or someone vouches for them. In my case, a jgirl vouched for me so they made an exception for me.

Sometimes I provide a girl's name. Sometimes I don't.

The reason why I don't is when I feel the girl is new to the business or is physically small. I don't want to publish her name so some member who I have never met, schedules a session with her and subjects her to a bad experience.

You're assuming all girls "will be fucked many times daily by other guys." It is a bad assumption.

Yes, the one time I delay a review on a kgirl is when she is brand new and learning. When she is halfway ready, I'll shout her out for guys who bring their service and are patient. I strongly warn against service hunters, they all know I don't exaggerate with warnings so it strikes a fear into their heart when I warn a girl is low service. But when I started out reviewing, I didn't know how to warn guys properly, so the only alternative was to not review a girl until she was ready.

There is a trade-off and a "middle road" to reviews where you don't want a girl to get no customers and leave either. So I low-key review girls who are young with good looks but low skill. I actually count on half of guys not paying attention to my reviews or being skeptical, and that filters out the "high expectation" guys who are easily disappointed anyways. I know lazy, entitled, and high expectation guys hate reading long posts, so I bury the hottest HYA in the middle of a list of girls for my first review. I want some guys to see them, not all.

[Sosa23]

Hi. Does anyone have a recommendation for hotel (s) that don't require key card for elevator, or allow for guests in after call up to room?

I'll be on a business trip, and can't risk meeting in lobby.

Happy to share info on German / Swiss FKK scene if interested.

Thanks!!

[Vendelo]

You are a better man than me Traveler X. I feel that when a person leaves a glowing review for a girl but refuses to share her name comes here to brag rather than share information. I find such reviews rather pointless because they are non-acttionable and serve no purpose for me personally. I post my reviews to help fellow mongers find good service and pretty girls while avoiding the opposite. I try making my reviews as actionable as possible so the person reading them can go to the same place and see the same girl and hopefully have the same amazing experience I had.

You do the same, and I appreciate your contributions immensely. I was able to successfully use your information several times in Japan.

Sometimes I provide a girl's name. Sometimes I don't.

The reason why I don't is when I feel the girl is new to the business or is physically small. I don't want to publish her name so some member who I have never met, schedules a session with her and subjects her to a bad experience.

You're assuming all girls "will be fucked many times daily by other guys." It is a bad assumption.

[Vendelo]

1) No Bush. No sure about BBFS, she offered secret option at 30 k and I didn't bother to negotiate or get specifics since I already fucked Miri twice earlier that day.

2) You are 100% entitled to your subjective opinion. I mean no disrespect. However in my area in the US we just had an influx of beautiful and very service oriented Chinese girls that blow away most Japanese girls I saw in every single 'metric' to use your term. Beautiful faces, amazing bodies, non-stop DFK, multiple positions, most are very responsive to DATY. The session is often non-stop fucking for an hour. Most have ni
ce and playful personalities as well. You can see my reviews on the USA version of this site, USASG. The only sessions I had in Japan that were possibly better were Miroku at Kira Kira and a couple TAE girls since they genuinely seem amateur. I also think it's silly to generalize an entire nation based on the sample size of the girls we saw. There are several billion Chinese girls, LOL..

I live in California and gave up on Chinese providers once I discovered the KGirl! Without disclosing too much personal information, where are you located, e. G, east coast, Midwest, southern California, etc.

Are these Chinese girls in their early 20's and shaved?

[Traveler X]

Thank you, that's good to know. Maybe I was overly harsh, but it seems that if she wasn't coming the least she could do was warn the place. But it is good to know that someone else had great experience with her. I of course can leave reviews based on my personal experience only.

You are a better man than me Traveler X. I feel that when a person leaves a glowing review for a girl but refuses to share her name comes here to brag rather than share information. I find such reviews rather pointless because they are non-acttionable and serve no purpose for me personally. I post my reviews to help fellow mongers find good service and pretty girls while avoiding the opposite. I try making my reviews as actionable as possible so the person reading them can go to the same place and see the same girl and hopefully have the same amazing experience I had.

You have every right to be pissed at a no-show, I'd be pissed too. I used to be even more pissed than you, but I'm older now and take a step back and think of it as a game. Like a chess game. You get caught in a bad position and it sucks, but you simply look at your options and make the best next move. Make a comeback and win the game in the end when all is said and done. Getting too upset at failure throws us off from our game, so I try to re-focus. We are here to have a good time, so I always problem-solve. Sane as when someone messes up my food order, I'm not happy at all. But all I can do is solve it. And later one, I look back and I'm not so upset. A sandwitch or a woman is something we can shrug off, we'll find the next good one. Hope you continue to win.

Yes, I'd like to know who is hot and people can see on USAG that I generally post everything I know that is useful. I just leave out things that are too ymmv or anecdotal. However, that's not human nature. And you know what, 90% of people don't leave a single review or help in any way. So if some guy is helping us with many past reports even though he didn't have to, I take the win. I'm not going to judge people for what they post or don't post, given that they are still better than the 90% of the rest. And I'll also add that all of us have posted something we later realize isn't helpful. I wish I could take back some old posts I made long ago. All I can do is improve myself when I realize it. So when someone starts to help and makes the same mistake I made before, I'm not going to sweat it. That's how I see it.

About cgirls, there is a whole wide range. Like kgirls, there are HYA cgirls and the "old and reliable" cgirl MILFs who have skills and service instead. Lately there are some good cgirl HYA but they do cost a premium on average. I'm sure there are exceptions, but that was my experience. On another thread I did leave some tips on how anyone can improve their odds by door knocking and saying hi to multiple cgirls before picking one. I actually ended up seeing a cgirl because my friend asked me for intel. So after banging a jgirl, I knocked on her neighbors door and was pretty amazed at what I saw. But she is an exception, there are cgirls from S-Tier to F-Tier same as jgirls and kgirls. I was so happy after seeing her, I tried another cgirl who was "not bad" but had the typical 25% cgirl premium. So not my thing, I'm glad I satisfied my curiosity. I'm sure I'll meet another winner and I'll be sure to let everyone know about her. My friends saw some ultra-premium cgirls at the 800-1500 range, and yep they are HYA. It is like a 25% to 50% premium for the exclusivity factor, since you are banging a college girl who doesn't do this often. And let me say, a girl who sees a guy or two a day has top tier pussy. So I get it.

The more options the better though, competition keeps the other girls to good standards.