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  1. #61120
    Quote Originally Posted by Nomeymom  [View Original Post]
    It was dishonest and theft, especially considering I was tipping everyone. It's completely put me off the place.

    If they think your drunk they will try it, the girls are in on it as well.
    Pay your bill often, don't let the drinks add up too much if you're new in these places.

  2. #61119

    Bilboard & Butterflies scammed me

    I was out having drinks with a girl and noticed the bar had added extra drinks to the bill without telling me. When I went to pay, it was much higher than expected. I asked for the receipt and saw multiple drinks I never ordered.

    The exact same thing has happened to me at Butterflies before.

    I'm also pretty sure the "lady shots" don't even contain tequila. It wouldn't make sense for them to actually get the girls drunk.

    It was dishonest and theft, especially considering I was tipping everyone. It's completely put me off the place.

    If they think your drunk they will try it, the girls are in on it as well.

  3. #61118
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnAuro  [View Original Post]
    Blow job bar Bangkok.

    When doing google for Blowjob bars for BKK, some pages show up, but they are outdated. I went to Patpong, Soi 2, to check "Top Light Bar" and also "69 Bar" (former Star of Light), at one of them, only an old Lady was available, the other one did not exist anymore. I quickly left.

    I tried my luck at Sukhomvit, "Kasalong", Soi6. Their choice of girls was moderate. I chose Pam / Tang; she was kind and friendly and did her best in the upstairs room. 800 bhat, + 200 Tip.

    Some days later, I went to "7-Heaven", Soi 33, It's actually a small street without name, opposite of a big Tibetan Restaurant.

    That's a much better place. You get a choice of girls, each with a picture on a tablet. I chose "Haru", a tall girl from Chiang Mai, not available every day. Her service was very good, she cleans your best part and chest nipples thoroughly, after she gets into action for a maximum time of 40 minutes or a 1st shot. Haru was very skilful with her blow and finally made me a nice CIM. The fee is 1200 b and I gave her 200 b tip. I took her again a few days later. Actually, I was afraid to take another one, as sure, Haru would make me come, which isn't easy. I even visited her for a 3rd time. At the receptionist, I asked which girls also have returning visitors, and she said, "Girls like "Haru" 'Patty' or 'Maysa'..
    Man why didn't you read the 'f' forum. Patpong soi 2 you would have heard all about (and directions to) 'Meet the World' bar, not only a one of a kind BJ bar but you could have experienced the infamous 'scrum' of 3/4 women at once. I ticked it off my bucket list two weeks ago, still basking in the memory of it.

  4. #61117

    Sex Hotels Kick Backs

    As I have seen in Thailand, Singapore, Mexico, Vietnam, sex hotels discreetly kick back 20% of the room fee to girls who bring their clients to their business.

    It seems a standard incentive practice among sex hotels internationally.

  5. #61116

    Daisy Dream

    Went on a short official trip to Bangkok for a day and had time in the evening post work to have some fun. Relied on inputs from this forum and ended up at Daisy Dream in the evening. This was my first trip to BKK and boy I was blown away with just one experience at Daisy Dream. Dropped in around 7 PM and was pleasantly greeted by the mamasan. I was shown the available lineup and there were about 10-12 women in the lineup and two smiled at me. I just picked the one who smiled the most and turns out it was Hana. Took the 90 minute two shot nuru massage package and costed me 5000 baht. It was a great first nuru massage experience and was amazing one with Hana who knows how to please a man. She was sweet talking and took charge and gave a nice rub with nuru gel front and back and some leg play on my dick and balls as well. Standard wash first up followed by Nuru massage and an awesome BBBJ CIM. She knows how to play with her fingers on the head and balls when going deep throat and was an awesome experience. Some nice foot massage, kissing, caressing and fingering in the jacuzzi session and then she dried me with a towel. Had a nice massage session on the bed with me indulging in some clit play and boy she was horny. I was too tired from a midnight flight and back to back work and meetings that I doubted if I could go for round two. She gave me one helluva BJ again and got me erect in a few minutes, rolled the condom down my dick with her mouth and rode me like crazy for some time. Then I switched to doggy for some time and then good old missionary till I was drained out. Boy I was surprised to what extent Hana went to please me, get me hard again and rode me for a long time. An evening to remember for sure and was cursing myself why I had not taken a trip to Thailand earlier. Would definitely be back to try out Daisy Dreams again, Poseidon and other avenues.

  6. #61115

    Blowjob bar and this & that

    Blow job bar Bangkok.

    When doing google for Blowjob bars for BKK, some pages show up, but they are outdated. I went to Patpong, Soi 2, to check "Top Light Bar" and also "69 Bar" (former Star of Light), at one of them, only an old Lady was available, the other one did not exist anymore. I quickly left.

    I tried my luck at Sukhomvit, "Kasalong", Soi6. Their choice of girls was moderate. I chose Pam / Tang; she was kind and friendly and did her best in the upstairs room. 800 bhat, + 200 Tip.

    Some days later, I went to "7-Heaven", Soi 33, It's actually a small street without name, opposite of a big Tibetan Restaurant.

    That's a much better place. You get a choice of girls, each with a picture on a tablet. I chose "Haru", a tall girl from Chiang Mai, not available every day. Her service was very good, she cleans your best part and chest nipples thoroughly, after she gets into action for a maximum time of 40 minutes or a 1st shot. Haru was very skilful with her blow and finally made me a nice CIM. The fee is 1200 b and I gave her 200 b tip. I took her again a few days later. Actually, I was afraid to take another one, as sure, Haru would make me come, which isn't easy. I even visited her for a 3rd time. At the receptionist, I asked which girls also have returning visitors, and she said, "Girls like "Haru" 'Patty' or 'Maysa'.

    - . - -.

    Oh, what a drag, the same day, Opposite of "7-Heaven", I saw a sign "HAKUMI" Nuru Massage place, I have good memories of the services Nuru (Soapland) massages a long time ago in BKK. Was it 100 Deutsch Mark (50 Euro) at that time, as I remember?

    The area, the street, is mainly made for Japanese customers as some of the writings are also in Japanese. I was offered a choice of 3 girls on a tablet: two young ones at the age of 20 or 22, and Emma, 28 years. I assumed that the older one might have more experience with Nuru! Oh, what a mistake, I paid 3200 b at the reception and I went upstairs with Emma.

    We prepared for a shower, and very soon she criticised a red spot on my upper arm. It was a spot I got when I leaned too hard on the grip of the Sky Train. I also had some light sunburn. Then she started examining my back. Ok, I am above 60 and my skin is not like 20 years ago. Emma said, "No good for Nuru", and we cancelled everything. The receptionist arrived with my 3200 b back, and many "Sorry, sorry " and some Kop Kuun Kaab, which, in my opinion, were not very appropriate. Actually, I was glad about this, because she could also have accepted me, but offered weak service; I preferred this to cancel everything.

    I continued the 7-Heaven and got the best service, LOL.

    - - -.

    Shortly before covid I spent a few days at BKK. Most of the Soi 4 bar girls with their dumb "hey Mister, he Mister" could not attract me, but there was one free-lancer girl on the street, petite taille, named Kaew, who attracted me. I took her consequently ST 3 days because she had such a terrific blow job technique, this quick vibrating hand movement, similar to an electric masturbator, also this sharp and pointed tongue, which tried to widen my penis hole and a good CIM after, as I already said, most girls don't arrive to make me come. Her f*ck was good too. LT she refused.

    I kept her WhatsApp. For a while, she had a Thai boyfriend, and she stopped working on the street. For 3 years she was working in a Japanese restaurant now, in a suburb 20 km outside of BKK centre. Her salary was 19.000 b per month.
    She asked "how much you will give me"? I answered "I don't know" and she asked if 3000 b would be ok? She arrived after work at 1 am, she had some backpack with her. She was a little shy because she had gained weight. She also smelled a little bit, as she was working the whole day in the restaurant, but that's ok, as I liked her, it gives a kind of "personal footprint" LOL.

    Surprisingly, she refused to f*ck! "I had not a thing inside for a long time" was her excuse?

    Her father and mother died in a car accident, and her brother some years later, too, so her only family are some distant relatives.

    Her blow was good, I offered her to stay overnight, but she said her job waits for her at 9 am. She left with a smile.

    I left Thailand too, some days later. It's good here, but I have some objections. One is the incredible use of plastic for packing all kinds of things you buy. 7-Eleven Supermarket: everything is double- and triple-packed, and there is no sign of waste separation.
    The other thing is that when you go for lunch or dinner, it's not any more so much cheaper than Europe.
    The third thing is that behind the "Thai friendliness", it's kind of impossible to have a deeper conversation with most Thais, as they are not used to speaking English.
    And of course it's a pity that is gone that young girls would hang out with older men, as they still did 20 years ago.

    Auro.

  7. #61114
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    A Filipino-Thai mixed girl is the code word for Ladyboy. They usually pull that bullshit because they've gone through so many surgeries that their faces (and body) look very weird and do not look natural Thai anymore.
    Yeah no, she had a kid (and natural see-cups). Also I guessed it myself from her facial features, no surgery involved expect for the c-section scar. Also this was not in Bangkok but another country (during the same tour) with a very strict policy on working girls where an unhappy client could give the girl a whole lot of problems with the government.

    But more generally you are right, if I see strange facial features in Bangkok, I stay the fuck away due to the ladyboy risk factor.

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    The worst form of shark attack is when a single man brings a girl to the room and there are 3 other men waiting in the room, all expecting to have sex for whatever price the single man negotiated. A group of 4 Indian men did that in the Ambassador room next to me in about 2017. Of course, the girl started the commotion when she first saw 3 extra men in the room. After the noise was calmed down, the hotel security knocked on my door to see what I knew. Police were also there. A friend of mine was housekeeping staff at a nice Patong hotel that caters to Indian men, she says that happens occasionally. I hope no ISG posters get involved in that stuff.
    That's outright horrific. I work with many Indian guys and they are all perfectly normal and respectable fellows, so I never understood the bad rep the nation gets on this forum; turns out I work with a peculiar westernized segment of the society and was not exposed to the stuff that gets the whole group the bad rep before. (not like there are wouldn't be farangs who behave like animals in Thailand, but the ratios seem to be very different).

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    I've never had a girlfriend fuck me with a condom, except the first couple times before we are clearly BF/GF and have been tested for STDs. Something different is used for birth control. I've also 100% gotten DFK from all my past girlfriends. To me, if she doesn't do both CIP and DFK, it isn't GFE.
    I did, she had some blood clot disorder and couldn't use hormonal contraception. Some times I would just pull out but that was too risky and we were too young to have a kid, so most of the times we would use a condom. I never had a problem with that, I was still young and horny and lasted 10 minutes instead of 5 with the cap on so I was glad hahah.

    I think if you wanted to be pedantic on what does and does not constitute a GFE service from a working girl, DFK probably would made the list of generally accepted requirements, but BBFS would not in most civilized countries. But what I was referring to was the overall feeling (or vibe as the kids would call it) of the session. Slow foreplay and showing signs of shared humanity instead of her just oiling up the old rooter and jumping on it with the intention to squeeze the jizz out as quickly as possible, bolting right after.

  8. #61113
    Quote Originally Posted by Grafspee  [View Original Post]
    one Filipino-Thai mixed origin girl even told me her and her ladyfriends consider guys with a sixpack weird or gay, unless they are professional athletes or something. So all this stuff I read here that Thailand is no longer a farang paradise, that wealthy Chinese and Koreans are in vogue, well just get the fuck out of the clubs and out of Pattaya, the farang paradise is still very real on Soi 4 (and in all other SE Asia countries I mongered in on this trip).
    A Filipino-Thai mixed girl is the code word for Ladyboy. They usually pull that bullshit because they've gone through so many surgeries that their faces (and body) look very weird and do not look natural Thai anymore.

  9. #61112
    Quote Originally Posted by Grafspee  [View Original Post]
    Speaking of haggling, I was totally shocked by the "shark attacks" Indian guys would subject the girls to. Literally 5 big adult Indian men would circle a poor girl on the street and start eyeballing her aggressively with crazy eyes from like 20 cm from her face and haggling about the price. I saw this like 15 times, they always do it in groups, I can't imagine how terrifying it must have been for the girls! Needless to say none of the girls I saw went with them after.
    The worst form of shark attack is when a single man brings a girl to the room and there are 3 other men waiting in the room, all expecting to have sex for whatever price the single man negotiated. A group of 4 Indian men did that in the Ambassador room next to me in about 2017. Of course, the girl started the commotion when she first saw 3 extra men in the room. After the noise was calmed down, the hotel security knocked on my door to see what I knew. Police were also there. A friend of mine was housekeeping staff at a nice Patong hotel that caters to Indian men, she says that happens occasionally. I hope no ISG posters get involved in that stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grafspee  [View Original Post]
    My routine is always a GFE session; shower together (when I want, which is like half of the time) then cuddling and kissing (most girls went for it on their own, two did not want DFK, I didn't try to force it as we had other mood-makers at our disposal), massaging (sometimes to receive, sometimes to give, I like both with firm young girls), receiving some oral sex, then slowly start fucking and me exploring what the girl likes (their pleasure turns me on a lot) while slowly increasing tempo towards the finish long while later, either by fucking or with me asking them to finish me some other way. The shorter sessions are around an hour, some of the longer ones were two and half, when I was depleted in terms of sexual energy and drinking on top, which allowed me to last quite a long time. With Latinas I also almost always eat them out, but here I only did it with two girls who asked on their own. Usually the girls are quite exhausted at the end, so we cuddle some more, I massage them or we shower together again, depending on the mood and mutual chemistry. None of the girls bolted right after I came or complained I take long time to cum, but I think it was a combination of the respect I showed, the good money I paid, them needing a break and us generally having a good chemistry. Well one of the Viet girls got worn out since it was around 5 AM and the porking was very solid with her cumming three times or so. She politely asked me if she can finish me manually, to which I happily agreed. In the shower after she laughed and told me whe was ready to give me two pops when we first arrived, which she quickly realised was unrealistic.
    I've never had a girlfriend fuck me with a condom, except the first couple times before we are clearly BF/GF and have been tested for STDs. Something different is used for birth control. I've also 100% gotten DFK from all my past girlfriends. To me, if she doesn't do both CIP and DFK, it isn't GFE.

  10. #61111

    Soi 4 SW and 7 Heaven

    First visit to 7 Heaven for BJ. Selected 'Orange' from site before visit and she was still available on the iPad at reception. Was tempted by a couple of others but Orange's tits won me over. Not bad but not as good as I'd hoped, no real chemistry or eye contact. Rather mechanical with little teasing or variation, and no DT or a really sloppy BJ like I wanted. Around fifteen minutes start to finish. Can't imagine having her power drilling up and down for the 40 min time limit!

    Next day chose a Viet SW on Soi 4 standing alone on the corner by Chemistry Bar / opp. 7-11, 'Twee' was the name she gave. I clocked her while walking down on other side. Wore a black one-piece covering a great shapely body, and was shaved. Very pretty face, amazing teeth with wide smile. 2000 B plus 300 hotel. Only downside was a see-sec scar. (When I paid the 300 room, the receptionist gave two or three twenties to the girl. Not sure what that arrangement was.).

  11. #61110
    Quote Originally Posted by Mombie75  [View Original Post]
    Grasfspee.

    Few years since I was in Bangkok but the Soi 4 ladies were 1000 b short time.

    This has doubled?
    I wouldn't know what was in the past, this was my first time! Also I hate haggling, I'm sure some of the less attractive girls would take my business for 1500 bath or whatever. But I couldn't care less about that. Speaking of haggling, I was totally shocked by the "shark attacks" Indian guys would subject the girls to. Literally 5 big adult Indian men would circle a poor girl on the street and start eyeballing her aggressively with crazy eyes from like 20 cm from her face and haggling about the price. I saw this like 15 times, they always do it in groups, I can't imagine how terrifying it must have been for the girls! Needless to say none of the girls I saw went with them after.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendelo  [View Original Post]
    Were the Viet girls shaved?
    Some shaved but most had the " tiny prepubescent hairs" as a style, as mentioned by the colleague here below. I like and preffer that but it is my udnerstanding it is not a mainstream position.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    You must have been in Billboard on a very bad day or time. The topless girls in the bath tub are often not much to look at, but most of the girls on the rotating stage are usually slim and 7's or 8's on a scale of 10. Some chubbies maybe, sometimes, but I've never seen a girl with a beer belly on the stage.
    However, since you left after 5 minutes already, and there are hundreds of girls working there, it's very well possible that you have missed the best line up of the evening.

    I wonder if all of these 46 girls were street walkers. Since you were sitting in a bar next to the Nana plaza entrance, it's very well possible that there were quite a lot of agogo girls among them.
    Also because those 46 were the girls that both of you agreed you would absolutely smash. So how many girls passed you in total in those 30 minutes? 100? 200? Seems to be quite a lot, but I can be wrong.
    As for the Billboard thing, possible, I really did only the 5 minutes there and fucked the right off in disappointment, it easily could have been better at some other time. But during my stay the girls on the podium were the beer bellied ones. It was a weekday around midnight, when all of Nana was in full swing.

    As for how many girls passed us in total in those 30 minutes. I don't know, I guess the smash rate might have been around 30%? But just a wild guess. We did our best trying to distinguish working girls but indeed some may have been on their way back to a go-go, I wouldn't possibly know, all I know is there was tons of great girls available that would in their numbers even turn a gay dude straight.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Unless I missed it, I don't think you mentioned anything specific about the kind of "best action and bang-for-your-buck" you were getting with those Thai, Vietnamese, Tanzanian, etc Soi 4 street girls.

    Was it standard BBBJ foreplay followed by Condom-Covered FS?

    Or was it your choice of BBBJCIM, BBFSCIP or both with a 2-pop deal?.
    I take a long time to recharge between pops, longer that what is reasonable to expect for a ST deal, also I'm usually not interested before I trully recharge. Obviously first day differs but after that it's my routine (see below).

    I don't do bareback anything expect for blowjobs out of general precaution and I'm happy to finish on the body or in the raincoat so I can't be of service, I didn't ask if it could be on table or not. One of the Tanzania girls didn't have her condoms and I just ran out of mine, she said it was a big problem when we found out, that BBFS is out of question; I told her to relax since I was not interested in BBFS, went to get condoms (and lubricant just in case), when I came back she was back in her very sweet mood and gave good BBBJ without me having to specify the requirement. That was was the only time it came up. As for blowjobs, two Viet girls wanted to go covered for BJ, I politely told them I expect the BJ to be raw, encouraged them to check the soldier first if need be but both did not offer any resistance on this afterwards and gave very good head right up.

    My routine is always a GFE session; shower together (when I want, which is like half of the time) then cuddling and kissing (most girls went for it on their own, two did not want DFK, I didn't try to force it as we had other mood-makers at our disposal), massaging (sometimes to receive, sometimes to give, I like both with firm young girls), receiving some oral sex, then slowly start fucking and me exploring what the girl likes (their pleasure turns me on a lot) while slowly increasing tempo towards the finish long while later, either by fucking or with me asking them to finish me some other way. The shorter sessions are around an hour, some of the longer ones were two and half, when I was depleted in terms of sexual energy and drinking on top, which allowed me to last quite a long time. With Latinas I also almost always eat them out, but here I only did it with two girls who asked on their own. Usually the girls are quite exhausted at the end, so we cuddle some more, I massage them or we shower together again, depending on the mood and mutual chemistry. None of the girls bolted right after I came or complained I take long time to cum, but I think it was a combination of the respect I showed, the good money I paid, them needing a break and us generally having a good chemistry. Well one of the Viet girls got worn out since it was around 5 AM and the porking was very solid with her cumming three times or so. She politely asked me if she can finish me manually, to which I happily agreed. In the shower after she laughed and told me whe was ready to give me two pops when we first arrived, which she quickly realised was unrealistic.

    Some of the girls offered to stay the night if I wanted to pay little extra for LT, but I did not take them up on the offer as I was also out of juice so it wouldn't serve any purpose, so the question of the price for that did not come up. One Viet girls told me even after a very nice, sweet and girlfriendly service (which got her quite worn) that she will head back out to score some more nice farangs, as she is here not on holidays but to feed her family, very remarkable work ethic. She said she often works 8 PM till 8 AM (but that she only goes with respectful gentlemen she likes, averaging something like 5 bodies a night. She was even cleaning my room when I was telling her not to do it, that its a job of somebody getting paid for it, but she was adamant. She wanted to have sex in a room that was not disorderly haha. Very much a wife material girl, that may interest some of the old farts here who will soon be in need of care hahah. But I digress.

  12. #61109
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    However, where it gets tricky and not as easy is when we request either BBBJCIM or BBFSCIP from the better lookers on Soi 4. In my experience, it is particularly difficult to get an agreement for either of those services with the better looking Vietnamese girls and African girls. For any reasonable amount of money.
    Not to mention the other problem of which you have previously warned: agreement on the street and compliance in the room are two different things. The reason I no longer consider Vietnamese girls is they consistently change the deal in the room (either refusal to do agreed activities or increase in money). With any girl, I’m always prepared to abruptly end a session without payment. My getting dressed sometimes convinces them to accept the previously agreed terms.

    Things were much easier and cheaper when I could finish using a condom. I actually preferred it until about 2020, now I cannot use.

  13. #61108

    Shaved?

    Viet girls whom I bagged in Bangkok, Saigon, Singapore were unshaved with tiny prepubescent hairs, so sexy.

    They were engaging, horny, sexy, vocal loudly expressing their pleasures. A hot spinner in Saigon was moaning, wailing, squeezing me hard with arms and legs like an octopus. I was nearly out of breath. Had to pry her off me to resume pumping hehehe.

    Hot Viet girls were hanging out on Soi 4 in early morning, talking loud, swearing some dirtiest obscenities.

  14. #61107
    Quote Originally Posted by Grafspee  [View Original Post]
    ..I did Thai, Vietnamese and Tanzanian girls. Most of the girls would most likely go with me for 2000 bath if I wanted to haggle, but I paid 3000 each of them to which all agreed immediately..
    Were the Viet girls shaved?

  15. #61106
    Grasfspee.

    Few years since I was in Bangkok but the Soi 4 ladies were 1000 b short time.

    This has doubled?

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