General Info

[Goferring]

Another Cheap Charlie here G.

I don't need five star but can eat locally as opposed to Western. Except maybe street vendors.

Because my trips are business orientated to begin with, I need to have things planned in advance. So there's not a chance to make decisions on the run, like I used to when I was a fair bit younger. Therefore I have to sort an itinerary and hotels upfront.

I too had an extensive contact list. But I've trimmed it right back. Every now and then you need fresh talent, and even the ones you block on WhatsApp, still find a way of trying to contact you. The great thing about having the contact list is, you know you can get results immediately whilst looking for other options.

If I didn't take the profitable FL route I'm experienced with, and started paying unreasonable bar fines, budgets would dramatically change for me.

_ Phil.

I still eat well in the Philippines but I will admit I do miss the food from other Asian countries where I can walk into any restaurant and find a delicious meal. A personal favourite is Thailand, Indonesia etc with Michelin rated cholera carts on every corner. Their street food is delicious.

I'm the opposite: I pack light and book accommodation a few days at a time. If I'm having a good time, then I stay. If I'm over it, I move on. Its nothing unusual for me to wake up, decide that it's time to move on and be in another town by lunchtime.

My contacts serve multiple purposes. Most cities I go to now have zero set up time and known entities provide a good fall back if the apps aren't providing or there is a drought for whatever reason. My contacts also cover the full range: wild childs to librarians who are closet nymphos; stunning 19 yos to hot mamas who are built for comfort. I keep a couple who's expertise is to get blood from a stone when I'm tired and empty towards the end of a trip.

Bars serve a purpose for some guys just not me anymore. It doesn't help that I have fond memories of times when bargirls were hot, fresh and fun. Let's not discuss dance troupes and pole dancers who were truely entertaining. Now I can't sit and watch a bored girl shuffle around a pole only to be over charged for drinks and mediocre service.

All of the above are why I enjoy getting off the tourist track.

Enjoy. G.

[Old And Ugly]

Another pic for the fellas who like the smile. Or pretty gals. Or mocha skin. Or beautiful hair. Or schwanztooga-lickin' (its a bit like KFC). Or a gal who brings a bestie to man the camera while she p*rns up the room.

So many things to like here. Still spending more time most days washing the excess poon-juice off myself.

Personally, I like all of the above mentioned things, but the smiles make my day.

[PhilJoy]

As a tourist, I spend about $US5 k per month. Some things that might be different in my case:

I'm a Cheap Charlie generally.

I don't need five star hotels but I do need western food.

I don't drink nor bar hop very much at all. Maybe binge one night for the whole trip.

I know the lay of the land and have an extensive Contacts list so my $/ shot is pretty low. Having said that, multiple girls per day isn't a rarity.

I travel around a lot while in country. This adds to my travel expenses and nightly accommodation costs.

Settling in one place would halve my housing and food costs. I doubt I would save any pussy costs.

Another Cheap Charlie here G.

I don't need five star but can eat locally as opposed to Western. Except maybe street vendors.

I don't do the girly bars, but I do drink on the cheap. 7-11's in The Phils get raided of SML and Tanduay for when I want to relax with a bevvy at the hotel, or treat the girls to about three Red Horses. Any more than that can be problematic from experience.

Because my trips are business orientated to begin with, I need to have things planned in advance. So there's not a chance to make decisions on the run, like I used to when I was a fair bit younger. Therefore I have to sort an itinerary and hotels upfront.

I too had an extensive contact list. But I've trimmed it right back. Every now and then you need fresh talent, and even the ones you block on WhatsApp, still find a way of trying to contact you. The great thing about having the contact list is, you know you can get results immediately whilst looking for other options.

Great call from you a while back to keep a different phone just for The Phils.

Everyone has different personal expenses to consider. So it's hard to say how much money anyone would need to live or stay long-term.

If I didn't take the profitable FL route I'm experienced with, and started paying unreasonable bar fines, budgets would dramatically change for me.

_ Phil.

[Goferring]

1000 a month, maybe in province doing nothing. 1000 a week sure you can do that even more depends on you. I've been coming over a decade and of course prices have gone up. I come back now nice condo in Makati for a month $1500 and spend around 6500 to 7 k when I visit. But this will not be my retirement budget. On my visits I'm wide open, bars every night, movies, dating nice restaurant's drinking allot everyday. I wake up every morning either with a girl I know or a new barfine. I may rest 4 or 5 days the other days its burning the candle at both ends. Could you spend more, I guess but for me ID be dead. I figure retired allot of things will change. One thing I will not go balls to the wall as ill have all the time in the world. Once or twice a week getting laid will be plenty and ill reduce the bars and drinking by allot. I do not need top notch condo just a decent one which can be found 500 to 750 a month, got buddies in those, they are fine. I figure 2 to 2500 will be fine probably more than enough, its just a matter of pace. Buddies on pension have no problem with this amount. Throw in some cheap province girls as when your there you'll have time to look around and meet. They all tell me you got 3 k you'll have plenty of fun, again its pace, balls to the wall will not be necessary anymore.

As a tourist, I spend about $US5 k per month. Some things that might be different in my case:

I'm a Cheap Charlie generally.

I don't need five star hotels but I do need western food.

I don't drink nor bar hop very much at all. Maybe binge one night for the whole trip.

I know the lay of the land and have an extensive Contacts list so my $/ shot is pretty low. Having said that, multiple girls per day isn't a rarity.

I travel around a lot while in country. This adds to my travel expenses and nightly accommodation costs.

Settling in one place would halve my housing and food costs. I doubt I would save any pussy costs.

Where I live, $1500/ mo would cover your rent and maybe your utilities for a very basic lifestyle. Certainly no eating out, rental pussy or social life. Most financial advisors peg a basic retirement at $30 k per year. Anything above subsistence living will be closer to $50 k at least. Again, no financial planners seem to include fucking 19 yo students in their spreadsheets.

I enjoy the Philippines but living there full time would drive me nuts. I've also got commitments back home. Hence, I fall into the category above the two week warrior but short of the full time resident. A 58 day stay cost me about US $5 k per month inclusive of everything:

$1000 International travel & visas.

$250 Domestic travel (P100/ day taxis and P1000/ week for bus or flights).

$2000 Hotels (2 star but good location).

$2000 Food & Drinks (P1500 per day for Western meals for me plus the occasional guest. I'm not a big drinker nor barfly).

$2000 Girls (P2000/ day province babe + 15 k Makati / Burgos blow out before leaving).

$1000 Sourcing costs (first dates, meals for her friends, finders fees, internet subscriptions etc).

$1000 Entertainment & Non mongering (P4000/ day diving plus tourist trips etc).

$500 Data & Incidentals.

Generally, I travel light, live simply but move around a lot. Relocating has its costs as I don't get cheaper monthly rentals but has the advantage of if I like somewhere, I stay, if I don't, then I move elsewhere.

As a comparison, a domestic holiday would cost the same weekly, not monthly and there would be no pussy included. Certainly no 20 yo pussy.

Enjoy. G.

[Locamotive]

That's more like it. I see these posts every day asking if $1,000 per month is enough to live comfortably in the PH. Of course it is always followed by replies like "That's plenty" or "we have a family of 4 and eat out several times per month on less than that. " Maybe if buying 2 - 10 peso lumpia from street vendors is their idea of eating out. The market is considerably cheaper for fresh meat and produce and labor is still cheap but to have a quality of life you need around $1,000 per week.

1000 a month, maybe in province doing nothing. 1000 a week sure you can do that even more depends on you. I've been coming over a decade and of course prices have gone up. I come back now nice condo in Makati for a month $1500 and spend around 6500 to 7 k when I visit. But this will not be my retirement budget. On my visits I'm wide open, bars every night, movies, dating nice restaurant's drinking allot everyday. I wake up every morning either with a girl I know or a new barfine. I may rest 4 or 5 days the other days its burning the candle at both ends. Could you spend more, I guess but for me ID be dead. I figure retired allot of things will change. One thing I will not go balls to the wall as ill have all the time in the world. Once or twice a week getting laid will be plenty and ill reduce the bars and drinking by allot. I do not need top notch condo just a decent one which can be found 500 to 750 a month, got buddies in those, they are fine. I figure 2 to 2500 will be fine probably more than enough, its just a matter of pace. Buddies on pension have no problem with this amount. Throw in some cheap province girls as when your there you'll have time to look around and meet. They all tell me you got 3 k you'll have plenty of fun, again its pace, balls to the wall will not be necessary anymore.

[WestCoast1]

Hi, I don't know Indonesia, at all.

Can you tell me if it's possible that a goodlooking old white guy (European) can get a regular girlfriend easily and stay with her full time for a week?

I would like to rent a comfortable apartment, often cook because it is a passion of mine and get a GF experience. Is this possible in Indonesia? In which city? How easy is it?

However, I always give some gifts and money before we part ways.

If all this isn't easy I'd go elsewhere. Thank you.

Well, from Phils to Madagascar to Indonesia. He's baaaaaack. Jones, give us a FR of your Mindanao honey. Or the Malate honey. Did you find (temporary) true gastro-love?

Jones? Jones?

[Old And Ugly]

That's the same everywhere. If you want to live like the US, EU or Aus, then stay there. If you're happy to make use of local options only then it makes sense.

Becoming too familiar with the currencies, thinking everything is cheap and disregarding the USD equivalent cost are the dangers. In USD, I've seen some crazy prices: $100 k for a flatscreen Tv when they first came out, $10 for a lettuce, $20 for a small box of Kellogs Cornflakes, $15 for an ice-cream.

I've also had a dinner for $1 per head, a beach side room for $15, kept taxis for days at $2 per hour. There are also slanderous rumours that I paid girls $7 for the weekend (in the good 'ol days) or $40 for a 24 HR LT (now) but those are totally unfounded. 😜.

As always, YMMV. G.

At my age pussy is the prime factor in the equation, everything else is irrelevant. All other expenses can be adjusted, and lifestyle reinvented.

When I first moved here I was living like a Spartan (filipino) 100 P or less can fill you up at the local carinderia, but that was for experimental purposes, and after the experiment ended I reverted to "normality"
I always report to the US prices, because that's where my money comes from, and that's my reference, but I do that both ways: up and down. In the end it doesn't make much sense, the only thing I'm getting out of it is that the system is rigged in such a way for regular shmucks like me, regardless of the country, to get all your money, while keeping you alive to produce some more, only the level of comfort differs. Once you stop working, and don't need to be physically present to produce it, you have the freedom of taking the money allocated to keep you alive in an expensive place, and spend it in another where certain commodities that you're interested into, like "pork belies" or pussy are cheaper. Or maybe the weather is to your liking. And that's exactly what I'm doing.

[Goferring]

I covered it before, I spend around $5 K a month to have a regular life, without any other excesses beside pussy. Giving the fact that rent is maybe 1/4 of US for similar, I would say that life in the PH is actually more expensive than US if you want to maintain certain standards. I don't know the latest prices in the US since the Iranian war, but I'm sure that a bell pepper (1 piece) doesn't cost $3 like in the PH.

That's the same everywhere. If you want to live like the US, EU or Aus, then stay there. If you're happy to make use of local options only then it makes sense.

Becoming too familiar with the currencies, thinking everything is cheap and disregarding the USD equivalent cost are the dangers. In USD, I've seen some crazy prices: $100 k for a flatscreen Tv when they first came out, $10 for a lettuce, $20 for a small box of Kellogs Cornflakes, $15 for an ice-cream.

I've also had a dinner for $1 per head, a beach side room for $15, kept taxis for days at $2 per hour. There are also slanderous rumours that I paid girls $7 for the weekend (in the good 'ol days) or $40 for a 24 HR LT (now) but those are totally unfounded. 😜.

As always, YMMV. G.

[WestCoast1]

Jarango: Remove the semblance of law and order and these guys will be back jerking off in Florida if they can still get it up..

There are numerous expats in the Philippines who live in remote provincial areas. SNIP

To them, living like a coconut farmer and rooting their country bumpkin beats jerking off in their condo in Miami or bumping raw raisins with the lovely old hens at their Florida nursing home.

You fellas been reading my diary? Hmmm?

[Old And Ugly]

That's more like it. I see these posts every day asking if $1,000 per month is enough to live comfortably in the PH. Of course it is always followed by replies like "That's plenty" or "we have a family of 4 and eat out several times per month on less than that. " Maybe if buying 2 - 10 peso lumpia from street vendors is their idea of eating out. The market is considerably cheaper for fresh meat and produce and labor is still cheap but to have a quality of life you need around $1,000 per week.

I covered it before, I spend around $5 K a month to have a regular life, without any other excesses beside pussy. Giving the fact that rent is maybe 1/4 of US for similar, I would say that life in the PH is actually more expensive than US if you want to maintain certain standards. I don't know the latest prices in the US since the Iranian war, but I'm sure that a bell pepper (1 piece) doesn't cost $3 like in the PH.

[Old And Ugly]

Jarango: the Philippines could go tits up very easily if the remittances dry up..

So, its possible that this little hottie will drop both her panty and her price point? I might have to start showering several times daily just to wash her hoo-hah off of me?

Yes indeed, that's a very nice smile.

[WestCoast1]

They are about to be hit by a tsunami of cheap puss. Some may not survive, even with the little blue pill. Artificial intelligence is about to decimate the call center and BPO industries. This is happening at the same time the Iran-US / Israel War is pushing Filipino OFWs out of the Middle East, while driving energy and food costs higher. That means a flood of desperate women into sex work at the same time that mongers balk at expensive flights and fuel surcharges.

Jarango: the Philippines could go tits up very easily if the remittances dry up..

So, its possible that this little hottie will drop both her panty and her price point? I might have to start showering several times daily just to wash her hoo-hah off of me?

[Keen Eye Joe 1]

Expats relocate to the Philippines to enjoy an enhanced quality of life. I'm here for the tropical weather, low cost of living, and the easy poon harpooning.

But I'm sure there are more than a few here to escape nefarious aspects of their past lives.

If you know of an American who is in arrears in unpaid court-ordered child support payments, they soon could be in for a rude surprise, courtesy of the passport division of the USA State Department.

Old overdue threshold was $100,000. Looks like it's soon being dropped to a mere $2,500. The article says if the holder is outside the USA, they will have to apply for an emergency travel document to return to the States and face the music.

I've seen more than my share of foreign beggars on the streets here. I wonder how many of them have decided that living like a bum in paradise is preferable to returning home to face legal justice.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...192857639.html

[Beavis]

This fantastic for the hobby, moving into uncharted territory, pressure on oil is expected to last years. With any luck we maybe moving into a golden era of girls not being able to count on the local online hook up / walker market and gcash transfers and move back to sitting around in bars. These girls are literally starving they don't have food to eat at home, jobless and are "just another mouth to feed". I met with a local girl in the province and in her pictures she was normal looking and supposedly was going to be going to college but she was skin and bone not due to anorexia or illness but starvation.

I spend about 25-40 k per weekend (including travel expenses) and my grocery bill is about 50-70 k a month fueled by my need to eat real food. This doesn't include eating out, Gordon Ramsay Bar & Grill for some, Ruby Jack's Steakhouse & Elbert's Steak Room where I spend a minimum of 10 k. This place really isn't cheap if you have one standard of living let alone "standards".

I don't live here to save money or to live cheaply or to live a local lifestyle I'm here for one reason. Even if I were to exhaust all my savings I could sustain this style of living for 30 years+ most likely indefinitely at least the rest of my life time. I'm here to enjoy as much pussy as possible before I kick the bucket that was never going to happen in America. I don't really see the need to come here and suddenly drop every single one of my western standards. BUT this place still has women that are amazingly naive the unwoke kind here that is worth being here for 100% and paying whatever price that is. American women of any race even filam's the thought of them turns my stomach their very nature is revolting, they send chills down my spine their screeching and Karen logic is unbearable.

That's more like it. I see these posts every day asking if $1,000 per month is enough to live comfortably in the PH. Of course it is always followed by replies like "That's plenty" or "we have a family of 4 and eat out several times per month on less than that. " Maybe if buying 2 - 10 peso lumpia from street vendors is their idea of eating out. The market is considerably cheaper for fresh meat and produce and labor is still cheap but to have a quality of life you need around $1,000 per week.

[Locamotive]

This fantastic for the hobby, moving into uncharted territory, pressure on oil is expected to last years. With any luck we maybe moving into a golden era of girls not being able to count on the local online hook up / walker market and gcash transfers and move back to sitting around in bars. These girls are literally starving they don't have food to eat at home, jobless and are "just another mouth to feed". I met with a local girl in the province and in her pictures she was normal looking and supposedly was going to be going to college but she was skin and bone not due to anorexia or illness but starvation.

I spend about 25-40 k per weekend (including travel expenses) and my grocery bill is about 50-70 k a month fueled by my need to eat real food. This doesn't include eating out, Gordon Ramsay Bar & Grill for some, Ruby Jack's Steakhouse & Elbert's Steak Room where I spend a minimum of 10 k. This place really isn't cheap if you have one standard of living let alone "standards".

I don't live here to save money or to live cheaply or to live a local lifestyle I'm here for one reason. Even if I were to exhaust all my savings I could sustain this style of living for 30 years+ most likely indefinitely at least the rest of my life time. I'm here to enjoy as much pussy as possible before I kick the bucket that was never going to happen in America. I don't really see the need to come here and suddenly drop every single one of my western standards. BUT this place still has women that are amazingly naive the unwoke kind here that is worth being here for 100% and paying whatever price that is. American women of any race even filam's the thought of them turns my stomach their very nature is revolting, they send chills down my spine their screeching and Karen logic is unbearable.

Your last paragraph is spot on, couldn't have said it better. I've tried to explain this to the local's but those type of women they have no idea what I'm talking about.