Pattaya Reports

[Pokler]

Freelancer scene: Nightclubs (the dancing type) are stock full of freelancers from 1 am - 6 am. Beach road is full of bottom dollar street meat every single night. Dating apps is stock full of freelancers. Pattaya is probably top 3 globally when it comes to sheer volume of freelancers.

Cost: It varies widely. For bottom dollar street meat on Beach Road and some dating sites = 1500 baht (plus / minus 500). For nightclub freelancer = 2000 baht (plus / minus 1000). These are all ST. I have zero experience negotiating LT upfront. I get LT organically after a solid ST session. In that case, I will normally add another 1000 - 1500 baht. LT is extremely complex for a first timer to the scene in Pattaya. A good portion of these ladies have some sort of mental or life issues so trying to have her stay with you for 6+ hours with multiple sessions is a recipe for disaster and waisted time. LT is great when you have chemistry and it is all mutual. Money can't buy chemistry.

Cost. Honrable Mention: I left out Gogo, bar, GC ladies since most of them are not technically freelancers since they work out of an establishment..

Good info but a few questions. I like sessions that are multi pop. The first two pops sex (covered) and the two more BBBJCIM. I like 3 hour sessions. (I'm 71 and yes 4 pops not a problem).

I like to spend a lot of time going down on her. I like my pussy bald and I want to get rimmed. So for all this activity doing I just ask for ST and then once I the room ask her to stay longer and ask her how much more she wants? Or before going to room lay it all out for her and ask her how much? I should ask if rimming is OK and is CIM OK? And is she shaved? Money isn't no a problem as I am used to paying far more in NYC. TY.

[SwashBuckler77]

Hello,

I'm thinking about heading out this way in a few months and wondered what the freelancer scene was like. I've seen a bunch of videos on YT showing some stunners heading into the clubs and walking around on Walking Street. How much should I expect them to ask for? Short time? Long Time? How long is each type of session? Clearly new to the Thailand scene. Thanks for any help and guidance.

Freelancer scene: Nightclubs (the dancing type) are stock full of freelancers from 1 am - 6 am. Beach road is full of bottom dollar street meat every single night. Dating apps is stock full of freelancers. Pattaya is probably top 3 globally when it comes to sheer volume of freelancers.

Cost: It varies widely. For bottom dollar street meat on Beach Road and some dating sites = 1500 baht (plus / minus 500). For nightclub freelancer = 2000 baht (plus / minus 1000). These are all ST. I have zero experience negotiating LT upfront. I get LT organically after a solid ST session. In that case, I will normally add another 1000 - 1500 baht. LT is extremely complex for a first timer to the scene in Pattaya. A good portion of these ladies have some sort of mental or life issues so trying to have her stay with you for 6+ hours with multiple sessions is a recipe for disaster and waisted time. LT is great when you have chemistry and it is all mutual. Money can't buy chemistry.

Cost. Honrable Mention: I left out Gogo, bar, GC ladies since most of them are not technically freelancers since they work out of an establishment. Cost there also varies from 1500 - 6000 baht. Some ladies that are smoking hot (instagram model types) that already have a few European sponsors that still work at Gogos will be highly highly selective if they even still dabble in outside work. These types will be 4000 - 10000 baht.

How Long: ST is normally one pop. Maybe 1-2 hours. LT is all night and they normally leave in the morning or afternoon. Another caution on LT in the rare case you find one that you have great chemistry with. It might be challenging to get her up and out of your room before noon. A problem if you have shit to do or just want to be alone.

How much should I expect them to ask for: Depends. How do you look, how old are you, how are you groomed, Is she attracted to you, Does she have 1 or more sponsors already helping her out monthly, how does she look, what time of the day or night is it. I think you get the picture. I would be prepared to spend 2000 - 5000 baht depending on many factors.

[OhioTraveler20]

Hello,

I'm thinking about heading out this way in a few months and wondered what the freelancer scene was like. I've seen a bunch of videos on YT showing some stunners heading into the clubs and walking around on Walking Street. How much should I expect them to ask for? Short time? Long Time? How long is each type of session? Clearly new to the Thailand scene. Thanks for any help and guidance.

[Explorer8939]

And still I was turned away last night when I saw a huge screen in the first bar in Treetown showing Champion league live. They asked me what I wanted and I said "watch football" and they said "no have maybe you can try the next bar". Well I went to the bar across. Ended up playing bar games and buying ladydrinks to girls and forgot football.

But I guess some bars have too many customers even they seem empty.

Bars in high traffic areas may have plenty of business year-round. But there aren't many of those.

And it is true that bars in low traffic areas do poorly in Low Season every year. The question is the quantity of customers in the lower traffic areas like Soi Chaiyapoon, Sois 7 and 8 and similar places.

About once a month, I walk down Soi Chaiyapoon to see the new bars, there's always at least one new bar every month. I was shocked this month to see "new" bars that have already closed.

BTW, there has been a quasi-scam going on since Covid concerning bars: a guy will open a new bar at the start of High Season, and in January sell it to a sucker. By June 1, the bar is empty, and the sucker can't give it away, the rent is too high to ever make a profit.

[LittleBigMan]

Shocked why? Everybody knows there is a glut of bars, massage shops, weed shops, tattoo shops, etcetera here. The only thing that shocks me is that people keep throwing their money away on that bullshit. Grand opening; grand closing.

Been saying it for years! More money than brains and add that to the ego's! But to each their own! I'm glad they are stupid enough to continue to open them gives us all something to experience before it closes. This also keeps the balloon chasers happy?

There is this farang owner he must have so deep pockets, I think the building is brought by him through a Thai, he has had this bar / building for sometime, from passing it is his 3rd attempt to renovate the place, each time he barely gets a customer a week? Girls are outside playing with their phone, talent isn't anything to stop for, This time he is doing renovation to the entire building I see the pool table is still there so my assumption it is going to continue to be a bar?

These cases are usually money laundrying etc.

[Bunky]

The gentleman's club I went to was pretty quiet. I found a little chubby girl with big boobs that seemed surprised I wanted her vs the others. I thought she was cute and she gave me a stellar performance overall!

During my recent 80-day holiday I spent quite a bit of time in the gentleman's clubs. I often had the same experience as Khun Garden when I asked one of the girls to join me for a drink: surprise and delight. Naturally I figured the girls were chuffed because I am such a hansum man. ;-) But I suspect the truth is they sit around for hours on end waiting for somebody to walk in the door. Moreover, in those GCs where the girls approach unbidden they probably get knocked back again and again. When a gent arrives and singles them out it's just human nature to be pleased.

I could tell that even the girls who played it cool were happy to have a live one on the line. So I tried to be a good customer. Showed up well groomed, neatly dressed, breath minty fresh. Quickly offered to buy a lady drink. Let the girls take the lead during the pregame warmup with regard to kissing, clothing and the handsy stuff. In the rare case where I made the real time call to tap out, I did so with a rueful smile and a couple hundred baht in hand, then changed bars so the girl wouldn't lose face. If we did take it to next level, I got what I came for without pressuring or embarrassing the girl, and cheerfully paid her asking price.

We talk about the girls' amazing ability to remember customers, and how they share information via the Coconut Telegraph. I theorize that goes double when it comes to GCs, especially those that are clustered in one area like Soi Boomerang or Soi Bong Koch 8. If the girls are going to talk about me behind my back, I'd like them to speak well.

[Pekkakoo]

If you were in Pattaya, you would be shocked at the number of empty bars.

And still I was turned away last night when I saw a huge screen in the first bar in Treetown showing Champion league live. They asked me what I wanted and I said "watch football" and they said "no have maybe you can try the next bar". Well I went to the bar across. Ended up playing bar games and buying ladydrinks to girls and forgot football.

But I guess some bars have too many customers even they seem empty.

[Mr Enternational]

But the big lesson (it's seems super obvious now) is that while 21 year olds TF likes you, I'm old enough to be their grandad. The action I received with older women (32+) is waaaay better. More connections. More kissing. More girlfriend experience. Just saying.

And more doing chores they see need to be done as soon as they walk in the door.

[Mark Garden]

Guys,

I'm in Pattaya at the moment for two weeks and I leave Sunday sadly. I told a friend I'm in a low grade euphoria almost all the time.

I've had:

1) Massage with boom boom or blow job.

2) Gentlemen's club with boom boom.

3) Thai friendly.

4) In call massage.

5) Sat in several GoGos on WS to admire the talent.

I've spent too much time in TF but friggen amazed by the platform and the interest. I shake my head every time.

But the big lesson (it's seems super obvious now) is that while 21 year olds TF likes you, I'm old enough to be their grandad. The action I received with older women (32+) is waaaay better. More connections. More kissing. More girlfriend experience. Just saying. Also the gentlemen's club I went to was pretty quiet and I found a little chubby girl with big boobs that seemed surprised I wanted her vs the others. I thought she was cute and she gave me a stellar performance overall!

[Mr Enternational]

If you were in Pattaya, you would be shocked at the number of empty bars.

Shocked why? Everybody knows there is a glut of bars, massage shops, weed shops, tattoo shops, etcetera here. The only thing that shocks me is that people keep throwing their money away on that bullshit. Grand opening; grand closing.

[Explorer8939]

Pattaya has been 3 months away from a meltdown for 50 years.

If you were in Pattaya, you would be shocked at the number of empty bars.

One quirk: Soi 6 will be okay, due to its dependence on Korean whales. That's a long term problem, not a 3 month killer.

[BlackPantherXX]

Meh. I've been going to Pattaya for 16 years, they've changed the visa policies countless times and will change it right back when they don't like the annual tourist numbers.

It won't stop the riff raff from coming or applying for 30 day extensions unless you also stopped all those direct flights and made it more expensive for them to come. Hell India had 2.4 million tourists in Thailand last year, they'll still be there.

Yes but it's better to let the riff raff know somehow they're not welcome. If you read the article, it's even stated Thailand economy depends on tourism, so they can't go hard on it either,. They wouldn't have to change rules all the time if westerners behaved like they ask in their home countries, so adding that layer of annoyance for them is better than nothing. You can still lie that you practice muay Thai and get your extension indeed.

[Akka76]

I give Pattaya 3 more months before the meltdown happens. Too many bars, and too many massage shops for a tiny number of customers. By the end of August, tons of bars will be for sale or closed. Of course, landlords will increase rent to make up the difference.

In the meantime, Pattaya will be a mongering paradise, with so many broke ladies.

It's always the case, but moreso now, that the ladies are divided into 2 groups, those with foreign sponsors, and those without. Sponsored ladies can throw money around and be picky about customers.

When ladies come to my condo, they always talk about how crazy sponsors are. The lonely guys who insist on talking for an hour every day, and check their location constantly.

20 years ago I saw exactly the same post as this I seem to recall.

[Karikamiya]

I give Pattaya 3 more months before the meltdown happens.

Pattaya has been 3 months away from a meltdown for 50 years.

[Explorer8939]

I give Pattaya 3 more months before the meltdown happens. Too many bars, and too many massage shops for a tiny number of customers. By the end of August, tons of bars will be for sale or closed. Of course, landlords will increase rent to make up the difference.

In the meantime, Pattaya will be a mongering paradise, with so many broke ladies.

It's always the case, but moreso now, that the ladies are divided into 2 groups, those with foreign sponsors, and those without. Sponsored ladies can throw money around and be picky about customers.

When ladies come to my condo, they always talk about how crazy sponsors are. The lonely guys who insist on talking for an hour every day, and check their location constantly.