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06-27-26 19:59 #21361Senior Member

Posts: 2560Supposedly Gulf States will pay the $300 billion. And apparently Iran's expecting another $40 billion a year from ships transiting the Hormuz Strait, which it might split with Oman. I have doubts about whether all that will happen.
Originally Posted by Sirioja
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06-27-26 19:51 #21360Senior Member

Posts: 2560It’s not an opinion, it’s fact.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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GDP is measured quarterly. It was up 2.7% from the 1Q2025, when Trump took office, to 1Q2026, the most recent reported quarter. For the 2Q2026, which will end shortly, the consensus forecast on Bloomberg, from 65 contributors, is 2.5% for the quarter on quarter seasonally adjusted annualized rate. Economists think long term GDP growth will be around 2% or a little lower. So 2.5%+ is pretty good.
That said, GDP growth would have been higher without the tariffs and the second Iran war.
On the other hand, all else being equal, GDP growth would have been lower without Trump's Big Beautiful Bill and probably without deregulation.
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06-27-26 13:22 #21359Senior Member

Posts: 1298France in total disaster
France like several other Europe countries were stupid enough to fall for the climate change hoax. It has increased energy costs so much that people can't afford to cool or heat their homes. France also followed Biden woke policies and Biden open border disaster which continue to destroy the country. At least USA is trying to correct their problems but France continues their failures.
Originally Posted by Tiny12
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06-27-26 11:10 #21358Senior Member

Posts: 27098Funny
Not only me and 60% Americans, but also seaweed don t like Trump megalomania. So funny, they are fucking his painting. Newton had the apple fall, now the orange fall, no peace, but defeat at war, needing now to pay 300 billions for same geopolitics than before. Americans will have to pay his spending and feeding seaweed. So funny. In fact, not really when he doesn't care about citizens, a president scorning most of citizens.
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06-27-26 10:40 #21357Senior Member

Posts: 7751The Cmdr makes an observation
The Dis United States of America is an excellent place (used to be) to make money. Quality of life by all reports from individuals I trust is that it has declined. Oklahoma run by Republicans is an example.
If you mean be a wage slave on a corporate / government plantation then you might be correct now. But AI is taking jobs away from people. So your statement might not age too well.
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No!
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Point of fact, you have never lived in another country have you Canada?
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06-27-26 06:02 #21356Senior Member

Posts: 27098Yes, sad, terrible accidents for 3 young children, same like so many young who are drowning, not having good level enough to swim, whatever they can think they can do everything, but dying in water, not able to swim. When people tell me I'm crazy not to use AC in my car, but for 3 children, it was totally different: Cars were not working but parked, children played and hide in cars under high heat. Mothers looked where were children and discovered hidden in cars and dead. Just 2 very sad accidents, nothing about safety, nor people who forget or let pets or children or granny in car under heat like in oven. I think you are too much a Trump blind follower about immigration, even I agree this is also a now uncontrolled problem in Europe, but we don t have your Epstein and all those who did benefit around him, with stars and politics, when we have Caucasian types who rape women and under 18 and kill children, not always Arabs or Black, even also, but not always. Some white are also rappers or pedophile, like your Epstein and all his friends and Trump accused by several women. Do You think all these women lie?
Originally Posted by Tiny12
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06-27-26 05:42 #21355Senior Member

Posts: 809France!
Hah! The French are always insulting other countries and thinking they're better than everyone else, so how can they in their infinite wisdom allow a little tiny heat to kill off people? Puh lease. We're talking about Phoenix like weather, that's nothing! (I want you guys to imagine PePe Lepeu speaking now in his accent) Zee French should learn how to tolerate 110 degree heat a little better like us folks here in Arizona. Give me a break! Freaking 43 Celsius or 110 Fahrenheit ain't nothing for the South West baby! Bunch of cry baby euros.
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06-27-26 05:10 #21354Senior Member

Posts: 2560Well, Ive recently read a couple of articles about children dying in cars from heat in France. Maybe the French need to get over the fear of pollution, climate change and catching cold, and leave their engines running and air conditioning on when kids are in the car. I realize that gasoline costs a lot more and the French make a lot less than we do. And if you leave your engine running with your kids inside in France, there's a good chance an immigrant will steal your car and kidnap your children. I guess there's no good solution.
Originally Posted by Sirioja
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06-27-26 03:15 #21353Senior Member

Posts: 809This is all I'm going to say. NFLX is at 52 week lows, a good company with decent valuation. Buy a bunch now, and in a coupla months when it hits 100 bucks, you'll thank me. That's assuming we're all still alive in a few months. This is a way better trade than they idiots buying MSTY. There's no future in AI! Also, Ebola is in France, while it's having its worst heat wave in decades, so France ain't shit either!
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06-27-26 01:49 #21352Senior Member

Posts: 7973Lol
Tell us more about your totally unfounded and unsubstantiated opinion that GDP has been "chugging along" despite Trump's Tariffs rather than declining.
Originally Posted by Tiny12
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06-26-26 19:56 #21351Senior Member

Posts: 2560Nobody's going to fall for that Tooms.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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06-26-26 19:39 #21350Senior Member

Posts: 27098Typical American thinking he knows, when just ignorant, believing everything written on internet, probably by stupid US AI. Since 2003 very high heat, all residences for old people must have a with AC room to refresh all old people living in the residence. For old people living in their home, employees from towns administration follow these old people situation, calling them reminding them to drink, asking them if they are fine. Reality in France where I live and get all true information. Of course, not healthy are at risk under high heat, same like obese. Many young also have problems, because not healthy from US foods they eat and thinking they are able to swim, but not really able and also ignorant, not knowing cold water can be dangerous when high heat. Yes, in France, we don t put AC everywhere, I never put on in my car, when lowering engine power and bad for health, catching cold. US Trump not caring about pollution, make heat going higher, more fire, more tornados, killing people, just a criminal, after war criminal who killed 150 young Iranian girls in a school. At least, true facts, for Trump and his pollution, competing with China. A American pollute almost double than a Western European I am.
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06-26-26 17:27 #21349Senior Member

Posts: 2560From what you quoted: "Total tax rates (income tax + sales tax + property tax) on middle income Americans are much lower than European levels. " In an earlier reply to you I also said you'd have to impose a regressive value added tax to pay for what progressive Democrats want. Of course the USA has the ability to raise tax substantially on the less-than-wealthy and become like France. Progressive Democrat politicians refuse to admit they can't do that just by taxing people who make over $300,000 a year (Biden) or who are worth more than $100 million (Warren and Newsome). They're using class warfare to get votes.
Originally Posted by HotDog666
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As to tariffs I don't like them for the reasons you don't. However GDP growth has chugged along nicely despite them. When I get some time, I'll elaborate in a reply to Elvis who disagreed in another of his thought provoking (honestly) posts.
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06-26-26 16:13 #21348Senior Member

Posts: 7973Like the increase in USA factory construction? Thank Joe, not Donnie
Joe Biden caused factory construction to increase. By American companies, for American companies, benefitting Americans and hiring American workers.
Originally Posted by Canada
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Behold the usual stark contrast between the economic policy and stewardship results of Dems like Joe Biden vs those of Repubs like Donald Trump:
Trump's tariffs are causing harm to American manufacturers instead of benefiting them.
March 18, 2026
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy...enefiting-them
Attention actual USA Citizens qualified to register and vote in the USA; if you prefer the latter results in the above linked citation, vote Dem up and down the ballot in every election. If you prefer the former results, either don't bother to vote or, worse, vote for candidates other than Dems anywhere on your ballot.Manufacturing jobs have declined during Trump's first year back
Trump's core rationale for tariffs has been that they would force more factories to open in the U.S. and would generate enough revenue to close federal budget deficits. But that hasn't materialized.
Factories continue to shed workers, with 98,000 manufacturing jobs lost during Trump's first full 12 months back in the White House. American companies that foot the bill for tariffs are now suing the Trump administration for more than $130 billion in tariff refunds. Meanwhile, the federal deficit is projected to climb over the next decade.
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Construction is up but that's due to Biden's bill
Some of the bright spots in construction cited by the White House appear to be the result of programs launched by then-President Joe Biden, a Democrat.
Factory construction spending began to accelerate in 2022 with the anticipation of government support from Biden's CHIPS and Science Act, which included big subsidies for computer chip plants. The law was a primary contributor to a historic surge in the annualized rate of construction spending on manufacturing facilities, said Skanda Amarnath, executive director of the economic policy group Employ America.
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06-26-26 15:54 #21347Senior Member

Posts: 2560Another reason not to want to make the USA more like France
The climate virtue signaling in France has become so strong that people are dying. Instead of encouraging elderly and infirm French men and women to seek and install air conditioning the government encourages coping mechanisms, like wetting yourself with water and eating cold soup. If you have ac you should confine it to one room and set the thermostat to 79 degrees Fahrenheit. This is from today's WSJ. Meanwhile, the good people at the left-of-center Economist took a model developed by a French researcher and applied it to forecasted temperatures on June 24 to June 26. That indicates there will be 1500 excess deaths from heat in those 3 days in Paris alone! And the death rate should be up about 300%! I'm writing from my mobile phone and those are pay sites anyway, but if you have subscriptions you'll have no problem finding the articles.

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