Medellin Reports

[KeviKev68]

That's not entirely true. I am not on any sex offender list nor Interpol lists. The last two times I have returned to the US from Colombia, I have been flagged in the system for extra screening. That is done before I even get to an agent, so questions and answers are irrrelevant. The first time, I was told it was because I make frequent trips to Colombia. The last time, they said because they are looking closer at the safety of Colombia. I doubt the agents at the airport know why. Since the system instructs them to do extra screening, that's what they have to do. After the first time, they revoked my Global Entry, reason "You don't meet program eligible requirements". I had met those requirements for 14 years, and I haven't had any encounters with any law enforcement authorities, nor imported any prohibited items. I haven't encountered any problem entering Colombia. That's the reason I can say fairly confidently that I'm not on any lists.

I have dad dozens of trips to Colombia over the past 3 years and to no other country. However, I went to Tijuana a few weeks ago with friends and I got flagged when I tried to return. I told them I had Global Entry and and have been traveling for years. They said land entry was different. I went to a secondary office and they went through my things. I did not have a bag only a crossbody wallet.

When I was cleared I got a dirty look or mean mugged by one of the officers. What a bunch of assholes!

[Huacho]

If I would have gone to Colombia within the first year of mongering I would be dead. Glad I tried other spots first to get a feel for how the game goes.

I went to Colombia for the first time in 1977 when I was 20 and my tour guide took me in the jungle in Iquitos to this little clearing with four like cabin type bars. I picked out a chica and she led me by a shelf where she picked up a blanket and a pillow. I was thinking we would then go to a room but was wondering logistically where those rooms could be. Then we went out the back door into the weeds and she threw down the blanket and pillow and we fucked right there in the aire libre. However and importantly, I had been fucking dominicana and boricua hookers in the NYC areas since I was fifteen so I was able to take it in stride.

[Fun Luvr]

2. Immigration does not care about any of us who are not flagged on sex offender or Interpol lists and are able to logically respond to routine questions without weirding out the agent.

That's not entirely true. I am not on any sex offender list nor Interpol lists. The last two times I have returned to the US from Colombia, I have been flagged in the system for extra screening. That is done before I even get to an agent, so questions and answers are irrrelevant. The first time, I was told it was because I make frequent trips to Colombia. The last time, they said because they are looking closer at the safety of Colombia. I doubt the agents at the airport know why. Since the system instructs them to do extra screening, that's what they have to do. After the first time, they revoked my Global Entry, reason "You don't meet program eligible requirements". I had met those requirements for 14 years, and I haven't had any encounters with any law enforcement authorities, nor imported any prohibited items. I haven't encountered any problem entering Colombia. That's the reason I can say fairly confidently that I'm not on any lists.

[Elvis 2008]

I wouldn't call that a "girlfriend", I would call that a "fling" or "friends-with-benefits". But, different words mean different things to different people. Like I wrote, that's something I think I could do here, I've done it before. But for me, that takes a lot more time and effort to find them and get them into bed, than the on-demand availability of a chica who is offering pay-for-play. Plus, it's been a while since I used to do that, so I would probably be rusty (and yes, a bit shy). I think I would be spending more time hunting on this short visit than fucking.
20-something me would totally be up for that challenge. But 40-something me, at least right now, is fine with paying for it instead. If I already had friends-with-benefits relationships set up here, like you do in the DR and other places, of course I could just jump right into that and not worry about trying to meet someone new.

I wouldn't call that a "girlfriend", I would call that a "fling" or "friends-with-benefits". But, different words mean different things to different people.

I wanted to respond to this post for a while but I could not organize what I was trying to say. I used seeking.com to meet women back then and I guess you are using Tinder but what I did not really get is how swamped the women are on even on social media sites like seeking. I had a girl on seeking show me her phone and she got hundreds of messages but basically outside of maybe 2 or 3 guys it was a bunch of losers trying to con the woman into fucking her for free. She had a level head about her, and she was the rare woman who got what the guys were doing and we saw eye to eye. If I had told another woman that was the case, I might have gotten something like, "OOh, you are just jealous because I have gotten so much attention. "

Because women are on social media and getting so much attention from men, even men trying to scam them into bed, the ego inflation of women has been absolutely unreal. And the egos of men get sunk because so few women are interested in them. Because of all the attention they are getting, women who are 3's and 4's expect to be treated like 10's. Many women cannot tell the difference between men who want to marry them versus men who want to fuck them, and many are offended if you tell them the truth.

If I had to do it all over again, I would have used seeking as a base of women in Colombia and started setting up a network of women which I kind of did anyway. I have been listening to the Men of Action podcasts and seen how much evolutionary biology plays with regards to sexual desire and the same desirable physical traits were mapped out in culture after culture, and I do not have those traits. But there was one thing that trumps even that, and it is having other women desiring you, and I had that in spades. Before I committed to my gal, I told her that I had a trip with three other women. It seems like kind of a dick move to say, "Before I commit to you, I have made plans where I am going to be banging three hot girls for a week", but I really did not want to cancel. In fact, in hindsight, I think it was important to show her that I was desired by other women. In other words, I am happy in my life right now and if we do not work out, I am not going to be miserable going back to these women.

When I did the seeking meet and greets, I would put women into one in four categories: not interested, hookers, possible sugar baby, and ony one time did a girl make the GF / wife category (and that was not my current gal). Everyone gets the first two categories but what separates a SB or FWB from a GF is that you are a friendly acquaintance to them with few expectations outside of a little time or money. So they are always glad when you pop into see them versus a GF who expects you to want to spend time with them and has expectations like your being monogamous.

What I did not get on this forum is how many guys here are expats who are time rich and money anxious whereas working guys like me were more anxious about our time in Colombia versus money. Anyway, the sugar relationship was the type of relationship I preferred as there were far less demands on my time and much fewer expectations than a GF. The sugar babies had had no expectation of monogamy and knew I was fucking other women bare and while they may not have approved of it, they tolerated it.

In fact, if you can get women in your circle, you will attract other women who want to have sex with a woman in your circle. I did not get this at first but for many women having a threesome is different than their being a lesbian even if they are going down on another woman.

Thing is that if you play the social media game, it is inevitable that the women will have their egos lifted and the men have it depressed, but that is not real life. I met one Venezuelan girl in Mexico who was a stunning 10 type who modeled all over the world with 200,000+ instagram followers, and I was intimidated but in hindsight, I know now that I should have not been because she was dead ass broke. The pandemic left her without work.

It is such an American thing to be worried about what women want. In Colombia, I think you need to define what it is you want.

Unlike their American counterparts, it takes a lot of trust on the Colombian woman's part for them to gripe about men, and I think that is because there is no money or attention coming a Colombian's woman's way if she does so. It seems to be seen as a sign of weakness in Colombia for women to complain about men. I asked my gal's female relatives to make a joke about how I looked, and they would not do it.

Of all the husbands I had met, there was one I thought who had not cheated on his wife, and I just learned he has. I do not want to say it is okay to cheat but it is mostly tolerated.

At the work place, in Colombia, it is perfectly legal to put in a want ad where you say that you want skinny, attractive women under age 25 and have them attach a photo to their resume. Hell, if you even said part of the job is banging you the boss, I don't think that many women would reject the offer unless they were taken. It is legal to bang your employees in Colombia.

Thing is I get it. We all have been conditioned to treat women the Western way. You approach a woman the wrong way in the USA, she can put you on blast and ruin your reputation. It was almost a game in the Northern USA to see which sex could dump the best on the other. In contrast, do you know what the title was of Shakira's recent concert tour after she broke up with the father of her kids? Real women do not cry. They earn.

The real issue is men target the wrong Colombian women. Hookers and blue collar women are too short term oriented to understand a mutualistic relationship. It is the ones you think would not be open to an arrangement that are the prizes: the hot dentist, the lawyer with the low cut blouse, the medical student in her tight scrubs. If they are not taken, IMO most are open to an arrangement where you get to keep your sexual freedom and who have no expectations outside of being glad to see you when you are around.

Looking back at things, there were very few times I proposed an arrangement to a woman out in the wild and she turned it down, and I should have done it more than I did. I vastly underestimated how many of these stunning women are dead ass broke.

[GringoLoko]

I always say if you want to visit Medellin for the first time Go to the DR, Colombia is not a country for the clueless monger. That being said some of th newest mongers manage to figure it out all the time.

If I would have gone to Colombia within the first year of mongering I would be dead. Glad I tried other spots first to get a feel for how the game goes.

[Combo]

Thanks for your input, Trip! I don't have a girlfriend in Medellin, it's more of a sugar-baby arrangement with a chica who really blurs the lines. I know it's conditional, and I know it's temporary.

I have talked with a number of Colombians who think that Cali has the most beautiful women, even though Paisas are more famous for their beauty.

Anyway, perhaps this bit of information about myself helps make more sense of my mindset and my posts. As always, I appreciate the critiques and advice.

FWIW Caleñas are probably more recognized for their beauty by Colombians. You're hearing the foreign view and way more foreign men visit Medellin than Cali so that's what we hear.

[Chico Bonito]

But women are women all over the world and you seem pretty tinder around the zipper. That being said I guess you've been to Rio and Meddy and haven't died so you will be fine in Kenya.
My overall point is what are you looking for? You say you got a girlfriend In Medellin and you do well in SD and you've been Rio what are you looking for that you're not getting?

Thanks for your input, Trip! I don't have a girlfriend in Medellin, it's more of a sugar-baby arrangement with a chica who really blurs the lines. I know it's conditional, and I know it's temporary.

Regarding the mongering style I want, yes, I love GFE. And extended GFE even better with the right chicas I click with and trust enough. That's why I have asked a lot of questions about Semi-Pros, since that sounds to me like an extended GFE, while potentially being more sincere and natural, and less expensive, than being with Pros. And yes, I also want to run through as many different attractive women as I can, because I also love variety. It's not that I haven't been getting what I want so far from the places I have been, I just want to keep exploring and having new experiences in different places with different types of women.

Maybe it's the thinking-out-loud way that I write, or the kind of questions that I ask, that make me sound more naive than I actually am. Yes, I am relatively new to mongering, and I know I have a lot to learn about that. That's one of the reasons why I write my reports here, as a way to process my experiences and learn from them. And receiving feedback on my reports, on both the good and the bad, helps me learn too. I also post my reports because I want to pay my dues here, by providing real boots on the ground information and honest experiences that can hopefully benefit others too.

But I actually have a ton of experience and knowledge when it comes to traveling and women in general. I have been with many Non-Pros while traveling and living in various countries around the world, picking them up, seducing them, having sex, relationships. And I've been with many American women and foreign women living in the US. And then a long, toxic, and mostly sexless marriage took me out of the game for a long time, and really fucked with my self confidence.

After my divorce a few years ago, I came to Colombia to spend time with some people I know here. That's when I began mongering for the first time, because I wanted to start having sex again with the least amount of friction, and I wanted to try to fuck all those years of a terrible relationship out of my system. Since then, I have come to appreciate mongering as a shortcut to getting sex, with the quantity and variety of women that I want. I can picture myself continuing to pay4 play for the easy and on-demand nature of it, while also balancing that out with real relationships with normal women.

Regarding some of the cities you mentioned, yes, I have been to Rio and loved it (as well as Salvador Bahia). I haven't mongered in Brazil yet, since every time I have been there, I have always found Non-Pros who wanted to fuck me and date me for free, even when there for only a few days. But because guys speak so highly of it, I would totally try out mongering in Rio, and maybe check out Sao Paulo, too. The way you describe Nairobi, I think I should definitely check it out. When I set my Tinder location to Nairobi out of curiosity, I got an insane number of matches very quickly. Thailand is a country I have always wanted to go to for many reasons. Probably would have been better to go 20 years ago or so when I first got the desire, but better late than never. I haven't been to Cali yet, but I have talked with a number of Colombians who think that Cali has the most beautiful women, even though Paisas are more famous for their beauty.

Anyway, perhaps this bit of information about myself helps make more sense of my mindset and my posts. As always, I appreciate the critiques and advice.

[Knowledge]

1. When you find a place where girls do not betray please let us know.

2. Immigration does not care about any of us who are not flagged on sex offender or Interpol lists and are able to logically respond to routine questions without weirding out the agent.

Reading the recent posts, I'm wondering if it's still worth it going to Medellin.

One can be betrayed by the girls, police and immigration don't like us, citizens reporting us and you can get in trouble and have to explain yourself or in worst case get arrested. If you are american even your own migration hassles you eventually.

I understand that this whole thing was getting out of control in Poblado, too many foreigner flashing and bragging. If everyone would have tried to fit in, discreet like Colombians do it, low profile, align with culture and respect towards people and country, the situation would be half as bad.

Hopefully policy will change with the next government.

I love colombians and their culture, so will return one day for sure, but not now.

[Hunglow1625]

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[Triple Darknes]

Reading the recent posts, I'm wondering if it's still worth it going to Medellin.

One can be betrayed by the girls, police and immigration don't like us, citizens reporting us and you can get in trouble and have to explain yourself or in worst case get arrested. If you are american even your own migration hassles you eventually.

I understand that this whole thing was getting out of control in Poblado, too many foreigner flashing and bragging. If everyone would have tried to fit in, discreet like Colombians do it, low profile, align with culture and respect towards people and country, the situation would be half as bad.

Hopefully policy will change with the next government.

I love colombians and their culture, so will return one day for sure, but not now.

Yes and no.

If you're the traveler who hits several countries on the Trick Trail then right now Costa Rica is better than Colombia. If you're invested Colombia is still one of the best places to go. You got newbies reporting Tinder success despite the massive scoping mobs on Tinder.

Keep in mind it's a war of numbers. 5 million vistors came to Colombia last year and 60 people were turned back. That's an infinitely small number.

I always say if you want to visit Medellin for the first time Go to the DR, Colombia is not a country for the clueless monger. That being said some of th newest mongers manage to figure it out all the time.

The new President promised a crackdown on drugs anyone believe that he'll be successful? I'd say anyone who glances at this board is miles ahead of anyone else.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[Triple Darknes]

This is a subject I care deeply about and if you want to go down the rabbithole check out The Hated One's Youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkmTxBTe52o

But a simple thing to do is to just not back up anything into the cloud. There was a case where a woman was found not guilty on a murder that she was clearly in and your phone was used The police cracked her IPhone but because she didn't back up her IMessage in Icloud they couldn't find the old messages.

That's not going to work if an intelligence agency is on you but will work for customs. Also I buy cheap droid burners off if Ebay before a trip and usually dump them after. If you have numbers or information that you want to save if you factory reset I have a laptop with Bitwarden where I save important notes. I don't even have the Bit warden app on my burner phones so even if they broke into my phones there would be nothing there.

If you really want to get sexy you can get a Yubikey and even a Buskill device for the laptop but this is rarely necessary.

Generally speaking as of now Laptops are seen as different than phones and don't get the same level of scrutiny.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[PSAddict]

Reading the recent posts, I'm wondering if it's still worth it going to Medellin.

One can be betrayed by the girls, police and immigration don't like us, citizens reporting us and you can get in trouble and have to explain yourself or in worst case get arrested. If you are american even your own migration hassles you eventually.

I understand that this whole thing was getting out of control in Poblado, too many foreigner flashing and bragging. If everyone would have tried to fit in, discreet like Colombians do it, low profile, align with culture and respect towards people and country, the situation would be half as bad.

Hopefully policy will change with the next government.

I love colombians and their culture, so will return one day for sure, but not now.

[El Capo]

Great report, glad you found yourself a diamond!

I noticed in this report, and in your recent post about Tinder tips, how you set it so that only the women you swipe right on first can see your profile. Why is that? Why do you think it works well for you?

There are women there that will report profiles that appear to be looking for P4P. And if enough of them report your device gets banned. I got burned twice and had to buy new phones. With this method the chances are less. And I won't talk business on Tinder. Only via Whatsapp with a throw away number.

There are women in Colombia that hate us!

[Chico Bonito]

I had a quick overnight in Medellin and decided I wanted to have some fun. I had 19 hours from arrival to departure. Opened Tinder and started going through the motions. Left and right over and over. I pay for a membership and have mine set so only the women I swipe right on can see me. That works well!
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Great report, glad you found yourself a diamond!

I noticed in this report, and in your recent post about Tinder tips, how you set it so that only the women you swipe right on first can see your profile. Why is that? Why do you think it works well for you?

I also have been using Tinder a lot in Latin America the past year, but I do basically the opposite of what you're doing. I have Tinder Gold, and rarely ever swipe anyone first. Instead, I wait a while to accumulate a queue of women who have swiped right on me, and then I swipe the ones I like most from among those who have already chosen me. I do this so that the majority of my swipes will convert to matches, so as to not lower my score by wasting my swipes on women who will never see my profile, or worse, be penalized even more by swiping right on the women who will end up swiping left on me. The point being to try to keep my score high.

That seems to have worked well for me, as once I figured it out, I started getting a larger number of women swiping right on my profile. Especially in cities that are very Tinder-active, like Medellin and Santo Domingo. However, for the past few months the algorithm doesn't seem to like me as much as before. On my recent trip to Medellin, I didn't get nearly as many swipe-rights as I did on my previous two trips. And this past week when I set my location to Santo Domingo for an upcoming trip, and used a boost, I got only a handful of swipe-rights, which is really weird. The first time I ever used a boost in Santo Domingo, back in October, I got 100 swipe-rights in a single day, and 50 more swipe-rights the next day. I couldn't possibly have just over-fished these locations, could I?

I don't know if Tinder changed their algorithm to prioritize other behavior, or if it has penalized me for swiping right too many times, or for swiping left too many times (I do swipe left often on women I don't like, to keep my profile "recently active" even when I'm not making matches). Or if there is a penalty against having a large number of matches saved up without messaging them (saving them for future trips). I see a lot of speculation on the internet about how Tinder's algorithm works, but it seems like they change it from time to time, and people rarely seem to agree on how it really works or what are the best strategies (other than "have really good photos".).

So, I figure it could be worth trying out your method for a while, and I'm interested to hear your reasoning behind it.

[ToastMonger269]

Day time is Botero.

I painfully want to go back to Medellin but one thing I hate is the lack morning-noon services, the need for setting up appointments, and traveling to one of the few places you know that give good BBBJCIM.

The appeal of just walking from a hotel to a BJ bar for a cheap morning nut makes me want to put up with the long flight, uggos and LBs in Thailand.

Has anyone negotiated just BJ service from Lleras chicas for less than the standard rate? I want to walk out of a Airbnb to the park and bringing back a girl for quick no fuss service. Considering there no action for the few that hit the park early, I'm wondering if they're willing to negotiate.