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  1. #61674

    Appreciate it

    Quote Originally Posted by SamSanuk  [View Original Post]
    Hey Boobs. You've been given a lot of excellent info and advice from a number of long time expats and frequent visitors totaling decades of experience. In addition, YouTube has some good videos produced by guys living in BKK and Pattaya and elsewhere. Read, watch, and learn. Hand holding is not often on the menu here. You've already been blessed.

    Sam.
    I appreciate it. That is why I love this Board LOL. You guys are hella interesting and helpful.

  2. #61673

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]

    Thailand's scene doesn't really specialize in top-shelf looks or ticking exact boxes like age. Most hookers look worse for the wear, with bad tattoos, ugly nose jobs, horrid makeup. There's still fun to be had, so chill out, enjoy looking and when you spot someone you like, try to have a bit of chemistry.

    Accept that you're a newbie, that you're not going to outdo anyone or unlock some secret venue or method that's so much better than average.

    I appreciate the advice. I've only been to Thailand once, so I'm definitely still a newbie, but even just walking around Nana I saw plenty of gorgeous girls. Maybe it depends on the venue or just personal taste. I was mainly asking so I can make the most of my next trip, not because I'm expecting some secret place.

  3. #61672

    Sage Advice For BoobsMcGhee

    Hey Boobs. You've been given a lot of excellent info and advice from a number of long time expats and frequent visitors totaling decades of experience. In addition, YouTube has some good videos produced by guys living in BKK and Pattaya and elsewhere. Read, watch, and learn. Hand holding is not often on the menu here. You've already been blessed.

    Sam.

  4. #61671
    Quote Originally Posted by BoobsMcghee  [View Original Post]
    I only have about 2 weeks so time for "courtship".
    Why bother with all the bullshit and expectations, then? Just make a list of places to check out, visit them, have fun. Don't forget the freelancers, still some decent Viets on Soi 4 and Soi 11. If you see someone you like, great, if not, move on to the next place.

    Thailand's scene doesn't really specialize in top-shelf looks or ticking exact boxes like age. Most hookers look worse for the wear, with bad tattoos, ugly nose jobs, horrid makeup. There's still fun to be had, so chill out, enjoy looking and when you spot someone you like, try to have a bit of chemistry.

    Accept that you're a newbie, that you're not going to outdo anyone or unlock some secret venue or method that's so much better than average.

    If you have a specification fetish, try high end places like Maria massage (usually for Asian customers).

    As for the "second city", for mongering split your time between Bangkok and Pattaya.

    Regarding price negotiations, it depends on the venue. Most "massage" style places have fixed prices. If you know the going rate, it's best to offer first and start on the low side, but still realistic (e.g. you can offer 1000 for short time to a freelancer on Soi 4, but not in an agogo).

    BTW, 20 is the minimum legal age in the pay-for-play industry, avoid any lower than that.

  5. #61670
    Quote Originally Posted by BoobsMcghee  [View Original Post]
    The search function doesn't seem to be working for me, so apologies if this has been covered before.

    Aside from ThaiFriendly or possibly SWs, where do you guys find the better-looking 18 yr olds Bangkok?

    Are there any particular massage shops, soapy massage places, websites, apps, cafs, nightlife areas, or other venues that tend to attract that age category?

    I haven't really seen a dedicated thread discussing this, so I figured I'the ask. I'm mainly interested in hearing where the veterans have had the most success and whether there are places that tend to be overlooked.

    Thanks in advance for any recommendations or experiences.
    So you want to bareback cum-in-pussy an 18-year-old Thai stunner, but you are a middle-aged farang with only normal looks. Honestly, hardly any Thai stunners that age will want to risk breeding with you. However, if you put in a lot of work and offer at least 350,000 baht and 60 grams of gold for Sin Sod, you may get a taker.

  6. #61669
    Quote Originally Posted by BoobsMcghee  [View Original Post]
    Thanks. I should have clarified that I was thinking more along the P4 P side rather than cold approaching university students.

    I'm 38, so while I don't think that's too old to date younger women in Thailand, I also realize walking up to Chula students probably isn't the best play. However, curious is You think it could still work for a normal looking 38 year old?

    I was more wondering whether there are particular soapies, massage places, MPs, bars, websites, or other venues that tend to have a younger (18) group of women compared to the average. That was more the direction of my question.

    I want True age if at all possible. I also don't mind going to a second city at all. I only have about 2 weeks so time for "courtship".
    Having read a bunch of your posts and a couple of DMs, it's apparent that you are doing a lot of learning in an attempt to get results of a seasoned punter while you are still green. It won't happen until you have invested time and money in kingdom. It's going to take a long time until you understand things to the level of seasoned veterans, like Eih Tooms. I estimate that I've spent cumulative 18 months in Thailand and my knowledge is far below the true veterans.

    It's time to take your trip, enjoy the successes, learn from the failures. If you are satisfied with CFS and have some baht to spend, you will have lots of success. At age 38 with average appearance, clean, well groomed, and polite, some of those successes will be with girls 25 and under. As Eih Tooms has written, the challenge is getting CIP or CIM/swallow from pretty girls.

  7. #61668

    Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by BoobsMcghee  [View Original Post]
    I've been reading through a lot of older threads and noticed different approaches to negotiations on ThaiFriendly and similar sites. Some guys seem to ask the girl for her rate first, while others appear to simply make an offer (e. G. , "X baht for why") and let her accept, decline, or counter.

    For those of you who've been doing this a while, what is your typical approach?

    * Do you ask her rate first?

    * Do you make the first offer yourself?

    * If you make the first offer, do you usually get a counteroffer, or is it mostly take-it-or-leave-it?

    I'm not asking what the "right" price is. I'm more interested in how the negotiation itself usually unfolds in practice. I'the be interested to hear how you veterans typically handle it.
    I won't ask her fee first. I will ask if she would like to go upstairs (Soi 6, Pattaya) or if she would come back to my hotel for short time. At that point she will mention bar fines and rates. If she quotes a high rate, I will frown and tell her I won't pay that much. I will make a counteroffer only if she requests it. I will only negotiate briefly. I don't go for rock bottom pricing as it ruins the vibe. My stack permits me to do this. By the same token I won't accept her offer if it is way out of line. On very rare occasions I'll bring up pricing if she doesn't first. But I never sit there and haggle. I'll do one counteroffer at most.

  8. #61667

    Let me clarify

    Quote Originally Posted by SamSanuk  [View Original Post]
    IMO, there are a lot of variables to consider. Looking for true age? Looking like an 18 year old? Looking for a pro / porn star? Looking for BKK or are you willing to go to a "second city" like Buriram? You age, looks and "game" will probably be a factor also. How soon your need requires fulfillment? (If a non pro, do you have the time to invest in at least a week of "courtship".

    If I was under 30, look good / presentable, I'the hit Siam Square at lunch time or late afternoon. LOTS of eye candy from Chula readily identifiable by their uniforms. See how far a bit of flirting / gamesmanship will go. Don't be discouraged if rejected.

    I once scored a student from Bangkok Business College. She was a true cousin of a regular I "dated" who danced on Soi Cowboy. It was an "accidental" meeting. I won't say her age, but I was 47 and she was 30 years younger. Apparently ready to work her way through college, "getting' a lot of knowledge".

    You might ask your hotel maid if she knows any potential targets. I've had a couple of maids offer up a young relative.

    Like said at the top; a lot of variables. Good luck.
    Thanks. I should have clarified that I was thinking more along the P4 P side rather than cold approaching university students.

    I'm 38, so while I don't think that's too old to date younger women in Thailand, I also realize walking up to Chula students probably isn't the best play. However, curious is You think it could still work for a normal looking 38 year old?

    I was more wondering whether there are particular soapies, massage places, MPs, bars, websites, or other venues that tend to have a younger (18) group of women compared to the average. That was more the direction of my question.

    I want True age if at all possible. I also don't mind going to a second city at all. I only have about 2 weeks so time for "courtship".

  9. #61666

    Got it

    Quote Originally Posted by AsianRain  [View Original Post]
    You asked about negotiations. Do you prefer the snarky Twitter-sized replies? Or do you appreciate that somebody gave you a somewhat detailed reply based on their preferences and IRL experiences. AR.
    I understand.

  10. #61665
    Quote Originally Posted by BoobsMcghee  [View Original Post]
    I think your premise rests on a couple of assumptions that may not actually be true.
    You asked about negotiations. Do you prefer the snarky Twitter-sized replies? Or do you appreciate that somebody gave you a somewhat detailed reply based on their preferences and IRL experiences. AR.

  11. #61664
    Quote Originally Posted by BoobsMcghee  [View Original Post]
    Aside from ThaiFriendly or possibly SWs, where do you guys find the better-looking 18 yr olds Bangkok?
    In my experience, NONE of the 4 Bangkok girls who gave their age as either 18 or 19 on TF were actually 18 or 19. Actual age was either 20 or 21.

    Honestly, if there was such a mythical oasis that had a reliable well of "better-looking 18 yr olds" in Bangkok, the last thing I would do is advertise it to all and sundry. Finding such P4 P girls is a prospecting game. It takes time, effort and patience IMHO. Those traits are in short supply amongst most mongers. AR.

  12. #61663

    Please don't encourage him

    Quote Originally Posted by BoobsMcghee  [View Original Post]
    First, you repeatedly describe BBFSCIP with an above-average P4 P girl as "the only real challenge" in Thailand.
    As he has already done hundreds of times. Really annoying.

  13. #61662
    Quote Originally Posted by BoobsMcghee  [View Original Post]
    The search function doesn't seem to be working for me, so apologies if this has been covered before.

    Aside from ThaiFriendly or possibly SWs, where do you guys find the better-looking 18 yr olds Bangkok?

    Are there any particular massage shops, soapy massage places, websites, apps, cafs, nightlife areas, or other venues that tend to attract that age category?

    I haven't really seen a dedicated thread discussing this, so I figured I'the ask. I'm mainly interested in hearing where the veterans have had the most success and whether there are places that tend to be overlooked.

    Thanks in advance for any recommendations or experiences.
    Quite a few hotels only allow girls to join you if they are 20, the laws in Thailand re age of consent, age of majority / minors etc is quite complex. Bit of a mind-field. Buyer beware!

  14. #61661
    Quote Originally Posted by BoobsMcghee  [View Original Post]
    Aside from ThaiFriendly or possibly SWs, where do you guys find the better-looking 18 yr olds Bangkok?

    Are there any particular massage shops, soapy massage places, websites, apps, cafs, nightlife areas, or other venues that tend to attract that age category?

    Thanks in advance for any recommendations or experiences.
    IMO, there are a lot of variables to consider. Looking for true age? Looking like an 18 year old? Looking for a pro / porn star? Looking for BKK or are you willing to go to a "second city" like Buriram? You age, looks and "game" will probably be a factor also. How soon your need requires fulfillment? (If a non pro, do you have the time to invest in at least a week of "courtship".

    If I was under 30, look good / presentable, I'the hit Siam Square at lunch time or late afternoon. LOTS of eye candy from Chula readily identifiable by their uniforms. See how far a bit of flirting / gamesmanship will go. Don't be discouraged if rejected.

    I once scored a student from Bangkok Business College. She was a true cousin of a regular I "dated" who danced on Soi Cowboy. It was an "accidental" meeting. I won't say her age, but I was 47 and she was 30 years younger. Apparently ready to work her way through college, "getting' a lot of knowledge".

    You might ask your hotel maid if she knows any potential targets. I've had a couple of maids offer up a young relative.

    Like said at the top; a lot of variables. Good luck.

  15. #61660

    18 yr olds

    The search function doesn't seem to be working for me, so apologies if this has been covered before.

    Aside from ThaiFriendly or possibly SWs, where do you guys find the better-looking 18 yr olds Bangkok?

    Are there any particular massage shops, soapy massage places, websites, apps, cafés, nightlife areas, or other venues that tend to attract that age category?

    I haven't really seen a dedicated thread discussing this, so I figured I'the ask. I'm mainly interested in hearing where the veterans have had the most success and whether there are places that tend to be overlooked.

    Thanks in advance for any recommendations or experiences.

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