Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[SubCmdr]

Having watched 6 to 8 videos of someone walking down Soi 6 and seeing all those girls hanging out in front of bars I have a simple question: in your opinion, what percentage of these girls on Soi 6 are offering sex for cash and not just looking for you to buy them lady drinks? I understand it's not 100-percent but what percentage of these girls are sincerely interested in sex for cash, in your estimation? Thanks for taking the time to answer my simple inquiry and I'm going to spend the next few months reading through this threat for information..

With all due respect brother Gopnik, forget those videos. The representations of Pattaya in videos are wack. Rarely do I see representations of the actual Pattaya I am posted up in. There are some good content providers. But not many. When you arrive, what you will find is completely different what is present from the reality on the ground.

Soi 6 is a in person venue. There is NO requirement that you buy a girl a lady drink. Do not be concerned about the percentage. You only need the girl you are interested in to fuck. Then the next, then the next. You get the idea. It is very easy to avoid the lady drink trap. Before you step in the bar ask the girl if she will bar fine or do short time with you in the bar. It is that simple. If she does not enthusiastically reply yes, The Cmdr does not fuck with her. If I am certain I want to fuck with her I say lets go. I will buy you a drink afterwards. I have never had a girl lie to me. If I am not certain I will buy her a lady drink. I use the time to vet her. Does she take time to talk to me and make eye contact. Does she sip her drink or gulp it down. I buy lady drinks because I like the girl and want her to spend time with me. Fuck what you heard. Don't swim upstream. If you gots alligator arms then those sorts of International Tricks should stay out the bars. It is a system. There are plenty of ways to hire a prostitute in Pattaya without buying a lady drink.

You will be doing yourself a disservice if you limit your International Trickin activities to Soi 6. Soi 7, Soi 13/1 and Soi 13/2, Agogos (1st Tier and 2nd Tier) Naughty massage places (Oilies), Soapies, Beer Bars, Gentleman's Clubs, Beach Road and Thai Friendly. Don't worry about which girls fuck will fuck you and which girls don't. Find the prostitute you find attractive. Offer her money for sex. Get you nut! Rinse and Repeat.

The Cmdr be ballin like a mother fuckin pro!

[SubCmdr]

Initially I offered 1500 baht, but then she countered and asked for 2000. Seeing as she appeared to be a cute 18-year-old, and I am not going to lose this opportunity over 5-10 USD, I promptly agreed.

500 THB = 15.13 USD as of the date I write this. That is 50 - 100% error.

[SubCmdr]

If your objective is to fill your face with excessive calories then I can see how knowing where the excellent buffets are is important to you and to the other old, fat, ugly farang mother fucks posting about them.

Is that the purpose of ISG?

Its called about making the forum useful instead of just having newbies think that spewing your thug dick worship us relevant to Thailand.

But the purpose of ISG is to share information on having sex with girls. If the conversation was about restaurants where it is nice to take a date to I would understand. But no, these conversations are about how to you old, fat, ugly farang mother fucks strap on the feed bag at buffets. Don't try to claim that the conversations improve the forum overall. There are regular sites for regular people that have restaurant reviews from people who travel. Or is it your contention that only International Tricks can recommend restaurants to other International Tricks.

I might be fat, but I can lose weight if I stay out of buffets.

Actually you can't. At you age it will take a complete change of your eating habits plus exercise and maybe even medication for you to lose weight. If was that easy you would have done it long away. I am not obese or even overweight. It is a personal choice that I back up with action.

You on the other hand, will always be a thug scumbag with a dick fetish and a big mouth, boy.

We are all allowed to express our opinions. Just note for yourself I don't care what you think of me. And, nothing that you say is going to help me or hurt me meet my objectives with the assistance of Thai Girls. What is my objective?

My objective is to nut!

[SubCmdr]

You ain't paying no 1000 bhat for no choochie in Thailand bro, that was the rate back in the late 90's to early 2000's!

You have made the accusation. You are the prosecutor. That means the burden of proof is on you. Proof means more that your faulty memories or claims from yesteryear.

You can find any number of posts in the Thailand threads documenting the prices I report. No one in the Thailand Threads disputes the prices that I report. Why? Because I know the market in Pattaya better than anyone else posting there. If you say prices are different; fly half way around the world from where you are in the Dominican Republic (SDQ) and come to Thailand (BKK). The then take the bus (or private car if you can afford it) down to Pattaya. I'll meet you anywhere in Pattaya and it will be up to you to prove the prices I report are inaccurate.

But be careful, here in Thailand defamation is both a serious criminal and civil offense. Most of what you write from the safety of the Dominican Republic would be considered defamatory here.

The Defense Rests!

When was the last time you were in Thailand? Do you know the difference between short time and long time? Do you know the difference between low season and high season? Do you know the economic dynamics between a International Trick and a Sexpat?

The Cmdr presents the following exhibits:

I can hire prostitutes off of Thai Friendly for a cost that ranges between 1000 - 2000.

All prices in THB.

I'm quite sure 1000 bht is impossible in Soi 6. Some girls could offer 1500 bht (more likely in low season), but it's not the usual. In BR I was asked 1000 bht, but the ladies were not to my tastes.

LT is 2500 for me, and includes 2 or 3 shots.

[SubCmdr]

If bar owners do not want their bar girls to leave the bar with bar fines then why have bar girls in the first place?

It is because the bar owners are a bunch of greedy mother fucks and exploiting the fact that prostitution is NOT legal in Thailand.

The money a bar girl gets after a customer pays the bar fine is all hers. No need to receive chump change from 220 THB priced lady drinks and the girl gets a 80 THB commission. Mean while the lady drink cost the Bar owners nothing.

If a bar owner does not want their bar girls leaving they should just hire waitresses and put them on a salary like other legitimate food and beverage service businesses do.

[Nyezhov]

Last seven posts in the Bangkok Reports thread are about food. The old, ugly, fat farangs who don't fuck anymore are having a field day. I guess when you can no longer perform then you turn to food as you comfort. But the rest of us who are here to share information about having sex with girls, well we really don't give a fuck about your restaurant reviews in Bangkok.

Its called about making the forum useful instead of just having newbies think that spewing your thug dick worship us relevant to Thailand.

I might be fat, but I can lose weight if I stay out of buffets. You on the other hand, will always be a thug scumbag with a dick fetish and a big mouth, boy.

[SubCmdr]

One question is, would decriminalization of commercial sex work in what would then be legal prostitution establishments of bars, clubs, shops, brothels, etc in Thailand be a good or a bad thing for the market.

Prostitution is NOT legal in Thailand. So, the bill being proposed is to make it legal.

I assume it would provide more protections and benefits for the sex workers in those venues as mentioned in the article. But then they would be getting taxed on their official and presumably tracked and monitored incomes.

Right now because of the lack of status legal work for sex workers they are not recognized as having legal recourse against employers. Taxes are the price EVERYONE pays for a orderly society. I will take the opinion of a sex worker over a International Trick reading from his tome in his ivory tower every time. The protections put the sex worker on equal footing as every other employee in Thailand. It also allows them to put International Tricks in check if they get out of line (and they often do). That is why you see dumb as mother fucking farangs who think they rule the world getting a well deserved beat down every so often on Soi 6.

You know damn well one requirement by the tax collectors and regulators would be that the payments for the sex work be made upfront with a receipt. Already a bad idea for the customer imo.

No, I do not know this. Neither does the OP. He is speculating. When you go into a store you gather up your goods and head to the cash register, you pay in order to receive your goods. At the point of sale. If you get your hair cut, the barber performs the service then the payment is made. Prostitution although it is not legal in Thailand is a service business. If legalized payment is received after service. Receipts are not required. I don't give any information to a store if I make a cash payment. The OP is off base with his assumptions and speculations in this case.

And can we assume that the prostitutes who choose the life of a freelancer without the regulations, protections and quasi union benefits of the commercial sex workers in licensed venues but who very likely would offer better deals on the service than "employees" of a venue would be left alone to provide the service outside of any criminal charge attached to it as they do now or would that suddenly become a crime under the headings of Tax Evasion or running a business without a license?

If a sex worker has a legal way of running a sex business (which they do not have the option of in Thailand today) then if they choose to operate outside the law they deserve the penalty proscribed in the law if found guilty.

I'm leaning toward preferring it be left as it is now

I disagree. Prostitution should be legalized and regulated in Thailand.

[Sam Sanuk]

I'm not sure. But I'm thinking his hero was Kevin Gaines. Same persona. Maybe fortunate not to have suffered the same fate. Of course, that would have been possible only IF Stubby actually was LE. LOL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Gaines_(police_officer).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A2RzvRuoEU&t=2548s

[SubCmdr]

Putting it on ignore / blocking results in 90% of postings in this subforum invisible. I only see Stubby's drivel when he's responded to by another.

Actually this is not true. Sam Sanuk is constantly responding to my posts where no one has quoted me. Take a look at the last post he made about me. So, he is making posts about me and posts about restaurants. Is he having sex with girls in Thailand? Not historical reports about his glory days once lived in Thailand. I cannot speak for others but I don't give a fuck about historical pussy events. The important information is current information being shared by posters like: Jizzy B.

Great report Jizzy B. Others need to follow your lead. They should eat less at buffets (it should be noted that only the old, fat, ugly farangs are talking about that) and instead eat more pussy. I hear it is low in calories.

ROTFLMAO!

[SubCmdr]

The purpose of ISG is to share information on having sex with girls. If you are not having sex with girls then I understand why individuals focus on posting about restaurants in the Bangkok reports thread. But posting about hotels in the Pattaya Reports thread when there is a thread called Pattaya Hotels well I just don't understand that.

The Cmdr knows what to post where. Individuals calling me names because of something I posted they don't like in the RANTS thread (after they claimed they were going to ignore me) when all they have to do is actually put me on ignore and not to read the thread makes no sense. But some people who are not having sex with girls in Thailand just need something to do and they like to build their post count.

[Sam Sanuk]

Last 6 posts in the Pattaya Reports thread were about hotels in Pattaya. If only there was a thread about Hotels in Pattaya then we could actually read reports about having sex with girls in the Pattaya Reports thread.

Everybody's favorite cum bucket is having a hissy fit over posts about hotels and restaurants. He should apply to be an "administrator" or stay in his most appropriate sub-forum. The one called "stupid shit".

Sam.

[EihTooms]

Legality?

Interesting article on aseannow yesterday.

Thailand's sex trade remains illegal, but its presence is highly visible.

Surang Janyam, director of the Service Workers in Group Foundation, known as Swing, said the country has more than 200,000 sex workers. The majority are in Bangkok and Pattaya, she said.

Pattaya is estimated to be home to more than 50,000 sex workers. The scale of its night-time economy is believed to generate between 100 billion and 200 billion baht each year.

Royal Thai Police data show that 19,648 people were arrested for offences under the prostitution law in 2023, down from 38, 139 arrests in 2022.

Under the 2022 Act on the Imposition of Regulatory Fines, offences under Section 5 of the prostitution law are punishable only by fines and are no longer treated as criminal offences. Authority to impose the fines was transferred from police to officials under the Social Development and Human Security Ministry.

https://aseannow.com/thailand-news/t...w+after+murder

That article is referring to the possibility of legalizing sex work in venues such as brothels, bars, massage shops, etc, where the commercial selling of it as the business of those venues is clearly cited as illegal and a crime in the Thai Penal Code and / or the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act and therefore would have to be decriminalized in order to achieve that end. The indicators for that being the point are sprinkled throughout the article, while the social workers and service worker representatives quoted in it hope to create quasi union benefits and protections for the staff in those venues and businesses that would not necessarily apply to those who move into freelance prostitution, for which there is no criminal citation other than the Section 5 type of prostitution-related activity of soliciting openly and shamelessly in a manner that creates a public nuisance and so on.

And it is interesting to see that even the prostitution-related activity of Section 5, which must account for at least 90% of the media reported prostitution-related criminal arrests and sweeps in Thailand has already been unofficially "decriminalized" by the authorities.

Just reposting your linked article here:

Thailand sex work reform calls grow after murder

https://aseannow.com/thailand-news/t...paign=Thailand+sex+work+reform+calls+grow+after+murder.

Thailand's sex trade remains illegal, but its presence is highly visible from Soi Cowboy in Bangkok's Sukhumvit area to Pattaya's Walking Street, where nightlife businesses continue to draw visitors from around the world.
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Some workers moved from venues to freelance work advertised through social media platforms, she said. Swing has also observed that the workforce is becoming more diverse in gender, reflecting changing demand.
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He said some entertainment venues and massage parlours were known to covertly offer sexual services. That grey area, he argued, creates opportunities for officials to demand bribes or extort money from workers.
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Ms Surang said the illegal status of sex work leaves workers effectively outside the formal employment system and wider economy, without meaningful power to negotiate their livelihoods.

One question is, would decriminalization of commercial sex work in what would then be legal prostitution establishments of bars, clubs, shops, brothels, etc in Thailand be a good or a bad thing for the market.

I assume it would provide more protections and benefits for the sex workers in those venues as mentioned in the article. But then they would be getting taxed on their official and presumably tracked and monitored incomes. You know damn well one requirement by the tax collectors and regulators would be that the payments for the sex work be made upfront with a receipt. Already a bad idea for the customer imo.

And can we assume that the prostitutes who choose the life of a freelancer without the regulations, protections and quasi union benefits of the commercial sex workers in licensed venues but who very likely would offer better deals on the service than "employees" of a venue would be left alone to provide the service outside of any criminal charge attached to it as they do now or would that suddenly become a crime under the headings of Tax Evasion or running a business without a license?

I'm leaning toward preferring it be left as it is now; the exchange of sex for money and money for sex between consenting adults not being a crime or punishable by any penalty. That doesn't make tax collectors happy I know. But unless there would also be social workers and representatives looking out for the benefits of the customers who pay the entire sex work fee upfront and get issued a receipt at the bars, clubs, brothels and shops, as I know there won't be, I suspect the value for money in the deal will sink like a rock in a pond, customers fleeing from those venues even faster than some do already and everybody loses. And if tax collectors are chasing down freelancers for the new crime of Tax Evasion vs nobody chasing them down today for no crime at all other than that easily avoidable Section 5 kind of stuff, that would be a major shame.

[SubCmdr]

Last 6 posts in the Pattaya Reports thread were about hotels in Pattaya. If only there was a thread about Hotels in Pattaya then we could actually read reports about having sex with girls in the Pattaya Reports thread.

[SubCmdr]

Last seven posts in the Bangkok Reports thread are about food. The old, ugly, fat farangs who don't fuck anymore are having a field day. I guess when you can no longer perform then you turn to food as you comfort. But the rest of us who are here to share information about having sex with girls, well we really don't give a fuck about your restaurant reviews in Bangkok.

ROTFLMAO!

[EihTooms]

Use Thai Friendly wrong and you will end up violating Section 7 of The Act.

If neither you nor anyone else nor even your favorite past poster who eventually gave up trying to prove a point contrary to all available evidence still couldn't find the words, phrase or sentence in Section 7 of the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act nor anywhere else in that Act nor anywhere in the Thai Penal Code that made exchanging money for sex or sex for money between consenting adults a crime in Thailand punishable by any penalty whatsoever, nor even for engaging in a discrete discussion and agreement to do it, then I would say Boom! No crime has been committed for engaging it that activity.

But don't worry. I will not abandon you and others in your struggle and so far failed mission to find and produce so much as a shred of evidence in a Code, an Act or any repeated news reports of prostitutes being arrested for things other than exchanging sex for money between consenting adults that such activity is a crime and punishible by any penalty whatsoever;.

I promise to do my best to read every detail in every post by you and others on this particular topic in the ISG Thailand Forum and if I ever see anything that does prove that the exchange of sex for money or money for sex between consenting adults is a crime in Thailand punishable by any penalty whatsoever I will most certainly reply to it and grandly congratulate you or whoever finds it for being the very first person in ISG history and in the history of Thailand in general to discover and reveal what must be the most secret of secret hidden statements and legally enforceable Sections in any and every related document ever published.

I swear to god I will. I am here for you in that regard.