Jakarta

[HotelAl]

Thanks for your info, very informative. I am planning a trip later this year. Your detailed info about the places to go was great, I too will stay at the Vertu Harmony Hotel and look forward to some fun in Jakarta. I plan to visit Classic and Travel. I will be in PI and plan for a 6 day trip before going home.

Third time in the awful Jakarta, a horrendous city where beautiful young girls and extraordinary experiences awaited me, as always.

Hotel: I chose the Vertu Harmony. 5 stars. A long pool with perfectly cool water. Gym. Corner room almost bigger than my house. Top. The only problem was a slight noise from the street, even though it's on the top floor due to the cars on the streets below. I slept with earplugs, but I'm very sensitive to noise. The price is fair. Agoda 34 a night. THIRTY-FOUR. 5 stars with a huge room. Wow!

Classic:
- 5th floor, nothing special.
- 2nd floor: some pissed off girls, others less so. Lots of smoke. But several very beautiful and young girls (19-24 years old), and for 365 + 100 tip, you get them in a nice room.

Travel:
- Very beautiful girls. Excellent experiences. 365 k + 100 k tip for one for 60 minutes. 500 k + 100 k + 100 k tip for two, for 90 minutes (tested). Clean rooms. I read on the forum that some users were caught after taking photos of the girl (you can't). The reason is simple: there's a camera in front of the bed, a huge one at that. It's supposed to ensure the girls' safety.

Emporium:
Amazing sex, hot make-out sessions, and finishes in a luxury room. The girls were very helpful. They hired one model at a time. However, I paid around 2 million each. But it was a superb experience.

King Kross:
New experience for me. Beautiful girls, different prices depending on the girl (from 460,000 and up). Taller and curvier than the girls at Classic and Travel.

Lokasari:
The girls weren't perfect. A few were pretty, but they all seemed to have some kind of ailment. Maybe it's my idea, or maybe it's those days. I never try noones this time

1001 Colosseum:
Very luxurious, but I didn't have a good time.

The girls seemed to be more interested in Asians.

They brought me a nice line, and I chose a nice one who was pissed off (at least to me).

Excellent thing: after the fuck, you can go to the thermal pool as much as you want! It's included in the entrance fee.

I also ate there: the food was ok.

I didn't have a good time, it's not for me.


Mulia:
Women 30 and up. Only 2 young people. The old band disappeared, the new one was nothing special.


In short, with a few criticisms that I've highlighted, the hot scene in Jakarta is superb. I was there for *another* 16 days, but I don't pretend to have seen even a lot of it.

It's a shame the city is truly awful. The only thing that stands out for me is the Ancol water park. I bought beautiful shirts in the malls, but I don't need many other clothes.

If it were a beautiful and fun city, I'd go back again. We'll see, anyway.

I recommend it for girls: you can spend 20 euros to be happy with gorgeous girls for an hour. Or 100 euros to relax by the pool with top girls, followed by enviable services in a luxurious room. Not only is it cheap, but it has everything.

The City of Hotties! (and that's it)

[Giovanni Volo]

Third time in the awful Jakarta, a horrendous city where beautiful young girls and extraordinary experiences awaited me, as always.

Hotel: I chose the Vertu Harmony. 5 stars. A long pool with perfectly cool water. Gym. Corner room almost bigger than my house. Top. The only problem was a slight noise from the street, even though it's on the top floor due to the cars on the streets below. I slept with earplugs, but I'm very sensitive to noise. The price is fair. Agoda 34 a night. THIRTY-FOUR. 5 stars with a huge room. Wow!

Classic:
- 5th floor, nothing special.
- 2nd floor: some pissed off girls, others less so. Lots of smoke. But several very beautiful and young girls (19-24 years old), and for 365 + 100 tip, you get them in a nice room.

Travel:
- Very beautiful girls. Excellent experiences. 365 k + 100 k tip for one for 60 minutes. 500 k + 100 k + 100 k tip for two, for 90 minutes (tested). Clean rooms. I read on the forum that some users were caught after taking photos of the girl (you can't). The reason is simple: there's a camera in front of the bed, a huge one at that. It's supposed to ensure the girls' safety.

Emporium:
Amazing sex, hot make-out sessions, and finishes in a luxury room. The girls were very helpful. They hired one model at a time. However, I paid around 2 million each. But it was a superb experience.

King Kross:
New experience for me. Beautiful girls, different prices depending on the girl (from 460,000 and up). Taller and curvier than the girls at Classic and Travel.

Lokasari:
The girls weren't perfect. A few were pretty, but they all seemed to have some kind of ailment. Maybe it's my idea, or maybe it's those days. I never try noones this time

1001 Colosseum:
Very luxurious, but I didn't have a good time.

The girls seemed to be more interested in Asians.

They brought me a nice line, and I chose a nice one who was pissed off (at least to me).

Excellent thing: after the fuck, you can go to the thermal pool as much as you want! It's included in the entrance fee.

I also ate there: the food was ok.

I didn't have a good time, it's not for me.


Mulia:
Women 30 and up. Only 2 young people. The old band disappeared, the new one was nothing special.


In short, with a few criticisms that I've highlighted, the hot scene in Jakarta is superb. I was there for *another* 16 days, but I don't pretend to have seen even a lot of it.

It's a shame the city is truly awful. The only thing that stands out for me is the Ancol water park. I bought beautiful shirts in the malls, but I don't need many other clothes.

If it were a beautiful and fun city, I'd go back again. We'll see, anyway.

I recommend it for girls: you can spend 20 euros to be happy with gorgeous girls for an hour. Or 100 euros to relax by the pool with top girls, followed by enviable services in a luxurious room. Not only is it cheap, but it has everything.

The City of Hotties! (and that's it)

[Werqweq]

The one I've been visiting is at Pavilon Retail Arcade, which is really nice and with nice staff. Next to it is a nice Japanese restaurant that I have also visited a couple of times. It takes about 30-40 minutes from KI when traffic is not too bad.

Was at this restaurant, the Japanese restaurant, the other day, minding my business and enjoying the food, when I heard the rhythmic trampling of a herd of women in high heels. I lifted my head out of the noodle bowl, just in time to see three high-heeled white girls trample past my table, heading with the determination of a group that have walked the same path a thousand times, though I did not see if they were being led by a restaurant employee.

This was some upper-class tooty, elegantly dressed. I only had time to catch a glimpse, as they were walking so rapidly, but I think, 22-25 years old, long blonde and dirty-blonde hair, and I think I heard some Russian sounding words. They entered a private room (the only one in this restaurant?), which I later could see was populated by two Asian gentlemen around 35-40 yo.

During their stay, some Asian (Indonesian?) girl briefly entered the room twice. I'm guessing some agent / handler checking the gentlemen were satisfied, but I don't participate in these expensive circles, so just guessing. No idea really.

Tried to find those girls on michat on my way back in the taxi, to offer them 400, bebas kondom, or possibly 800 k for threesome and two shots, but couldn't find them. Possibly you need to subscribe to michat premium, which I believe requires you to have an existing subscription to Grab Feel, but I let my lapse.

[KennyWu]

This girl I met two years ago in Empouriam hotel and she shared her contact and we were in touch and she is popular on Tiktok having 200 k followers. After two years of exchanging messages time to time I paid her remotely. She is no more working in Emporium hotel or any other outlets like this. We decide to meet, on my USA trip return took a stopover and booked a nice hotel (Service Apartment with two rooms and two bathrooms with a great living room), that included a breakfast and it has a few other options to eat and a nice pool. The property is Citadines Gatot Subroto Hotel. We agreed to meet around 4 pm, but she took time to come to the hotel. She arrived 7 pm.

The plan is two nights one full day together to explore all possible fantasies. She arrived in a nice jeans and a tops, huge boobs (I mainly attracted for that), Took her to the room, she took a refresh and changed to pyjama and came to next to me on the living room couch. A bit english to exchange our conversation. Ordered red wine and started drinking after sometime took her to the guest room, removed her pyjamas to explore her boobs a bit, big sizes and she was enjoying giving a solid sucking of the boobs. Started slowly to play around with boobs with my dick, she was enjoyging again and gone wild, could see that she is almost wet, she pulled my dick to her mouth and given a solid BBBJ, then turned her back to started fucking on the backside, then come to the front and in a few minutes round one was over. Both went to bath room and she cleaned herself and myself too. Its around 11 pm.

Came back to the living room started again drinking the rest of the wine and ordered some food. Chit chat, not wearing any dress purposefully. Around 1 pm again my dick came up and asked her to go to the main bedroom. We went again started slowly, same pattern sucked her boobs and she gave a long blowjob and side fuck, missionary and doggy, its hard for cum again, she helped again sucking hard to brought the dick to her mouth and splash unexpectedly on her mouth, she was not expected but with a smile she cleaned and back to the bed, ended around 2 am, slept a few hours and woke up around 7 before breakfast asked her to give one more BJ, couldn't cum but its good in the morning.

After breakfast, took her outside for a bit shopping and lunch then came back to the hotel. Started the third round and fourth round in the mid night ended around 1 am. I requested her to leave after that and she left happily with the money I paid 3. 5 million. I slept almost 10 hours and checked out and left the hotel to the next destination.

She was amazing and young having huge boobs wild on the bed. I will come again to meet her sometime soon.

[Jimmyzhu]

There's girls out there that don't accept any money and will gladly pay for things for you.

Brother, not everyone is good looking like you 😂 I'm not even average, more like below average, not going to be subject to those free offers.

[Delbo1]

Jimmyzhu you're doing it completely wrong you are literally burning your money. There's girls out there that don't accept any money and will gladly pay for things for you. Giving someone 5 juta is a crazy amount. I'm not having a go at you just trying to give you another opinion you could be using that money for getting more girls. I'm not looking for that type of girl it just turned out that way. So they are definitely out there. And 2 juta absolute maximum for me for a day.

[Werqweq]

Ah, that makes a lot more sense, I guess that works but like you said, those type of arrangements are often terrible if it is a one and done thing. I guess the advantages is that you didn't have to travel away from your hotel and carried straight onto work after the meet and it costed you roughly the same amount as if you were going to classic or bar street.

Yes, that's the benefit. It's so quick and easy. Also michat is a 24/7 operation: e. G. Today, a michat girl came over after breakfast, around 11 am, when Classic / KI is not yet open. In the afternoon I usually go to Classic or KI, cause quality and selection is much better, but at night I will use michat again as I'm too lazy to go fishing for sloppy 10th's at KI or Classic.

BTW, it seems like the non-p4 p 19 Yo is somewhat well off or from middle class? It couldn't have been a village girl right since she didn't ask for any money?

Judging from her very average looking clothes I wouldn't think she's from a particularly well off family, but I didn't pry. While I am completely ignorant about Indonesian society, I wouldn't assume being a village girl or poor would mean she's also selling her pussy on a p4 p basis.

Apparently she had an ex-BF from Australia before, though she's only 19, and that's why she speaks some English. Not sure how that was working out, as she said she could only go out before parents come back (from work I presume), but seems to have given her a taste for western dick if nothing else.

I felt uncomfortable about her using what became almost four hours going back and forth (I booked the taxi car / bike of course), just to hang out with me in my room for barely two hours. Would have liked to invite her dinner / cinema / overnight or something like that another time, but don't think that is possible. Anyway, as I write this, I think I will message her anyway and ask. Hopefully she will appreciate the thought if nothing else.

For me, I had arranged a meet with a village girl on tinder and she was the prettiest natural looking girl I've seen for a long while. All the girls I've seen around the city has had the heaviest makeup on with those thick eyebrow liners. It almost makes me want to puke, a lot of girls over here have great natural soft eyebrows but they have to ruin that shit by sticking two Hitler moustaches on top of each retrospective eye. These girls are only 19 to 23 but they try to exemplify their age by putting on dark heavy thick lines on their faces, I'm wondering if there are actually any of you guys that like that kind of style or if it is just me that hates that shit?

Not me. I remember a 19 yo tf p4 p girl in thailand last summer, who I rated as 7. 5. Had banged her a couple of times already, then one morning she turned up with full makeup and looked like a 30 yo 5, tops. Told her as much, and she answered she was "going somewhere official", or something like that, afterwards.

Anyway ending my rant, my 20 Yo village girl asked for 5 Mill for a whole 24 hours and I had a feeling that it could have been a scam since it seemed too good to be true. Turns out she was a total gem and did everything I could have asked for. I banged her 5 or 6 times and never complained. I felt kind of puzzled as she travelled all the way from tangerang which is almost over a hour by car. I mean I feel bad for these girls since since she was around 20 and she was travelling alone having to trust another stranger in their hands.

Naturally I took care of her and invited her to the mall and took her around to do a little shopping, nothing much, just some creams and bathroom amenities. Turns out it was her first time in Jakarta but what was surprising is that she didn't care for the citylife and glamour. I asked her what her hobbies were and she shocked me with a picture of her holding a large catfish! This girl likes fishing of all things!? I told her that she had a hobbies similar to an Old man and mimicked a person squatting on a boat with one hand holding a cigarette and the other with a fishing rod. She giggled and told me that she would like to take me out fishing if she had the chance. Personally I'm not into fishing but this cutie captivated my heart so I might actually try it out but really I just want to see her again.

That's nice. 5 juta is a lot of money for this in Jakarta also, so I wouldn't worry about the girl feeling she lost out on meeting you.

[Expat American]

Anyway ending my rant, my 20 Yo village girl asked for 5 Mill for a whole 24 hours and I had a feeling that it could have been a scam since it seemed too good to be true. Turns out she was a total gem and did everything I could have asked for. I banged her 5 or 6 times and never complained. I felt kind of puzzled as she travelled all the way from tangerang which is almost over a hour by car. I mean I feel bad for these girls since since she was around 20 and she was travelling alone having to trust another stranger in their hands.

Naturally I took care of her and invited her to the mall and took her around to do a little shopping, nothing much, just some creams and bathroom amenities. Turns out it was her first time in Jakarta but what was surprising is that she didn't care for the citylife and glamour. I asked her what her hobbies were and she shocked me with a picture of her holding a large catfish! This girl likes fishing of all things!? I told her that she had a hobbies similar to an Old man and mimicked a person squatting on a boat with one hand holding a cigarette and the other with a fishing rod. She giggled and told me that she would like to take me out fishing if she had the chance. Personally I'm not into fishing but this cutie captivated my heart so I might actually try it out but really I just want to see her again.

Dude, 5 mio for a village girl for a day is a huge jackpot for her. And shopping on top of that is icing on the frosting on the cake. Any girl with the cajones to ask for that much is not doing it for the first time. I've had college students come for less than half of that and fucked my brains out too. Glad you enjoyed though.

[Jimmyzhu]

Hahaha. I'm with you on that. Once time the pimp was a big fat woman who also wanted to come up and wait, so I just said no. She understood I'd cancel if not, so waited in the lobby.

The pimp in this case however is a pretty 18/19 yo girl that I've banged many times already, including some days ago, so it was not a problem. I joked she stay in the room and record video on my phone, but she refused, and wanted to stay in the bathroom instead (so no, no video).

Ah, that makes a lot more sense, I guess that works but like you said, those type of arrangements are often terrible if it is a one and done thing. I guess the advantages is that you didn't have to travel away from your hotel and carried straight onto work after the meet and it costed you roughly the same amount as if you were going to classic or bar street.

BTW, it seems like the non-p4 p 19 Yo is somewhat well off or from middle class? It couldn't have been a village girl right since she didn't ask for any money?

For me, I had arranged a meet with a village girl on tinder and she was the prettiest natural looking girl I've seen for a long while. All the girls I've seen around the city has had the heaviest makeup on with those thick eyebrow liners. It almost makes me want to puke, a lot of girls over here have great natural soft eyebrows but they have to ruin that shit by sticking two Hitler moustaches on top of each retrospective eye. These girls are only 19 to 23 but they try to exemplify their age by putting on dark heavy thick lines on their faces, I'm wondering if there are actually any of you guys that like that kind of style or if it is just me that hates that shit?

Anyway ending my rant, my 20 Yo village girl asked for 5 Mill for a whole 24 hours and I had a feeling that it could have been a scam since it seemed too good to be true. Turns out she was a total gem and did everything I could have asked for. I banged her 5 or 6 times and never complained. I felt kind of puzzled as she travelled all the way from tangerang which is almost over a hour by car. I mean I feel bad for these girls since since she was around 20 and she was travelling alone having to trust another stranger in their hands.

Naturally I took care of her and invited her to the mall and took her around to do a little shopping, nothing much, just some creams and bathroom amenities. Turns out it was her first time in Jakarta but what was surprising is that she didn't care for the citylife and glamour. I asked her what her hobbies were and she shocked me with a picture of her holding a large catfish! This girl likes fishing of all things!? I told her that she had a hobbies similar to an Old man and mimicked a person squatting on a boat with one hand holding a cigarette and the other with a fishing rod. She giggled and told me that she would like to take me out fishing if she had the chance. Personally I'm not into fishing but this cutie captivated my heart so I might actually try it out but really I just want to see her again.

[Werqweq]

The pimp being a male or female? I wouldn't be able to concentrate with another person in the bathroom especially if it was a male. Props to you though for being able to get down with it, I would have declined the whole ordeal.

Other than that, it seems like you travelled far down the South for Brazillian BBQ? Is it worth going all the way down there for people staying on the North side of Jakarta? Traffic seems like hell but Brazillian BBQ sounds delicious.

Hahaha. I'm with you on that. Once time the pimp was a big fat woman who also wanted to come up and wait, so I just said no. She understood I'd cancel if not, so waited in the lobby.

The pimp in this case however is a pretty 18/19 yo girl that I've banged many times already, including some days ago, so it was not a problem. I joked she stay in the room and record video on my phone, but she refused, and wanted to stay in the bathroom instead (so no, no video).

It was also slightly amusing, as the girl she brought over did not want to do BJ, and said she did not do that (meet all sorts of strange people on michat:-/). I said ok, we can cancel then. She then went into the bathroom to talk with the pimp girl, who came out and said she could do the BJ, and then I could fuck the girl. It of course also helps that I'm paying pimp girl 100k separately for any girl here, so I figured she thought BJ-ing for a minute or two was worth it for her, plus I suspect she's also scheming part of the 400k I pay the michat girl herself. ;-)

I wasn't in the mood for that right then though. The pimp girl is a bit prettier, around 7 I guess (with some abnormally large natural boobs. They're the oversized mellons you sometimes see the stereotypical bimbo have paid for, even though they look silly on their otherwise small frame, but in her case, they're natural), while the girl she brought over was around 6. Since I fucked pimp girl some days ago however, I preferred to just cancel.

I also suspected the girl would change her mind once she understood I was serious and would really cancel.;-)
After some talk in-between them, the girl changed her mind and did the minimal 30's BJ michat girls normally do, while pimp-girl went back play on her phone in the bathroom.

Tucano's is nice IMO. I've compared it to El Toro's in Bangkok before, which is also nice, but I like Tucano's better. It's also less than half the price I paid at El Toro's some weeks ago (maybe closer to a third? I can't remember).

I've noticed Tucano's seem to have several locations, so perhaps there's one closer to you? The one I've been visiting is at Pavilon Retail Arcade, which is really nice and with nice staff. Next to it is a nice Japanese restaurant that I have also visited a couple of times. It takes about 30-40 minutes from KI when traffic is not too bad.

[Chilli1]

It is well documented machine eats card.

I always only use big branch with security guard available.

My case was another local guy withdrew huge like many millions.

And it was just bad timing.

My request for 2 mil was approved but cash didn't come out as it could be exhausted its cash reserve.

Guard was there took his wa number etc, finally.

Schawb gave it back but I had to report it to Schwab no cash dispensed.

Guard also told they can't do anything.

I was withdrawing some cash from a BRI ATM across the road near Classic when my debit card got stuck inside the machine. This was night time, so I went back to the bank the next day and explained what happened. They were polite friendly and tried to get the bank manager and technician involved, but unfortunately, they told me that any card that gets stuck inside an ATM is automatically shredded inside the machine for security reasons, so there was nothing they could do.

I was pissed off, but fortunately, I had another debit card with me, which saved the rest of my trip even though it didn't reimburse my ATM fees like the one it got stuck. So, shit happens, just be prepared and always have a backup card.

[Jimmyzhu]

Banged the michat girl, who arrived in her pyjamas embarrassing enough (talk about walk of shame ...), and was apparently somewhat scared of "bule", so wanted her pimp friend to wait in the bathroom. 95+% of these michat hookers seem to be completely uninterested in having a good time during sex, and I don't even bother trying any longer. It's the literal "slam, bang, thank you 'mam"-thing. Having just banged the one year older non-p4p girl, I appreciated the difference. At least the Classic / KI girls seem to, with varying degrees, get some enjoyment out of it, but these michat girls ...

The pimp being a male or female? I wouldn't be able to concentrate with another person in the bathroom especially if it was a male. Props to you though for being able to get down with it, I would have declined the whole ordeal.

Other than that, it seems like you travelled far down the South for Brazillian BBQ? Is it worth going all the way down there for people staying on the North side of Jakarta? Traffic seems like hell but Brazillian BBQ sounds delicious.

[Werqweq]

Good that you wrote about the spa, haven't been there myself, but I had tried and wrote about a spa I tried in Lokasari square while pricing and modus operandi was similar (walking on the back etc), they had some kind of scrub (lulur I guess was the name) which actually cleared my skin pretty nicely followed by a milk bath (1 litre milk in a bathtub full of water). It feels good to go for a change of pace in between the fuck sessions.

The dick and ball kind of massage you are referring to is Yoni massage, didn't try it myself seemed like a waste of money for an entire session of massage dedicated to one area only. Don't mind giving it a try if it is more than a simple HJ.

Well, I liked it enough the first time that I went again today (just the spa. Didn't bother going to T2 or T5 for what would have been sloppy 10ths, plus I felt a bit tired). Experience today was less rewarding. The massage woman was a notch higher on the 1-10 scale, but the massage itself was quite a bit weaker. The previous woman treated the covering towel as something to only use when necessary, while this one treated it as something to always use.

Whether the massage woman is 20 or 60, with some experience you can feel whether she's interested in making you feel good (not via anything sexual, but via a good, personalised, massage), and unlike the first woman, this one obviously didn't care. Didn't offer anything extra either, though in this case I wouldn't have wanted it either.

After she finished (they seem to finish 10 minutes early here, same as they did at another place I never bother repeating as the phone rings. I think the "excuse" for this is to give you "time to shower", as if I needed her to be present while showering, or all the rooms very so full that they had to usher me out to free up space) , she asked me if could give her a tip. I told her I thought her massage was not so good, just so-so, so I wasn't planning on doing that, and ended up paying just the standard 400 k when leaving.

[Werqweq]

Matched with a 19 yo on some dating app when I was in Jakarta two months ago or so, shortly before I left for Thailand. Didn't bother talking much with her, as no point, but sent her a message or two to say hello and that I was in Thailand now.

Some days before back to Jakarta started to chat with her again, just a handful or two of messages in total. Turned out she lives 30-40 km away, which is one and a half hour in the Jakarta traffic.

Talked a bit more with her yesterday, in the taxi on the way back from the excellent brazilian bbq buffet at Tucano's, and invited her to come over for coffee / smoothies or something like that this evening, with me booking taxi for her, but she could not she said. Was living with parents, and had to be back before they came back home she said. She asked if she could come at 9 am instead, and wanted to video call first, which I would also have asked for had she not done it herself. Video call was ok, and her dating app photo was without filtering.

Talked a bit more, and she wanted to video call again when I was at my hotel.

At this point I was still a bit unsure of whether she was p4p or not, and half expected her to, at some point before I booked the taxi, ask me how much I would give her (always zero, as these scamming sluts, pretending to set up normal dates as normal girls, then at the last moment, showing they are wh0res, piss me off. Had they been honest from the start, I would have said yes), but talked some more over video call when back at my hotel.

Messaged her in the morning, and she messaged me back a bit later, and then arrived at the hotel one and a half hour later. Up to the room, where we did some normal girl / guy cuddling, easing into CIM BJ. She wanted to watch spiderman on the hotel tv, and told me to continue working (I work from the room). Worked a bit, then banged her as good as I could in appreciation for the BJ (not great, but she was trying). Cuddled a bit back and forth after that to be nice, but she said I could continue working. Tried to offer her to go down with me for lunch, but she said up to me, and she was not hungry. I wasn't hungry either, but wanted to offer it.

Left about two hours after arriving, with her insisting on a motorbike this time due to traffic (I insisted on car here, as I would feel too horrible if there was some accident, and it's one and a half hour each way, so don't get why anyone would want to be the passenger on a small motorbike that long, vs in airconditioned car).

A bit after that my michat pimp-girl arrived with another girl in tow.

Banged the michat girl, who arrived in her pyjamas embarrassing enough (talk about walk of shame ...), and was apparently somewhat scared of "bule", so wanted her pimp friend to wait in the bathroom. 95+% of these michat hookers seem to be completely uninterested in having a good time during sex, and I don't even bother trying any longer. It's the literal "slam, bang, thank you 'mam"-thing. Having just banged the one year older non-p4p girl, I appreciated the difference. At least the Classic / KI girls seem to, with varying degrees, get some enjoyment out of it, but these michat girls ...

Already it's half an hour since the michat girls left, and I see my non-p4p 19 yo is still enroute back to her home, with 10 minutes still to go. She would like to meet again she said, not only one time, though I said probably we could not as I'm leaving soon.
There are some movies I would like to watch at a cinema however, and I wouldn't mind inviting her along for that and dinner, but if she has to be back that early each day it's probably not going to happen, as I normally work during the day. Maybe I will ask her anyway, especially as I am curious as to as to whether the cinemas here are in anyway comparable to the great cinemas in Thailand.

Not sure what her story is, and didn't want to pry, but get the feeling she enjoys sex with "bule" and does not have all that much to do during the day.

I'm hoping to meet another normal / non-p4p girl later in the evening, but not sure if that will happen yet.

Anyway, crazy, wonderful stuff ...

Edit: at least she arrived back home ok.

[Werqweq]

Is it easy to get them to agree with CIP, do you offer more money to them?

Sometimes girls will offer it without condom for extra money, which I usually accept as long as the price is not too high, but only as long as nothing is mentioned about forbidding CIP. If they want extra money, but say no CIP, I rubber up instead and don't bother leaving a tip.

If they accept BB without demanding anything extra, but tell me no CIP, either before they let me enter, or while we're already at it, I try to change their mind about it. I I cannot, I show my understanding, enjoy the session, aim for COF, and give the same tip as I would have for CIP. I don't blame the girls for not believing what some random mofo of the street says about his vasectomy.

What sounds like a good idea, from AsianRain I think, is to offer the girls the plan-b (indonesian version of course) pill you carry in your wallet if the problem is CIP. Having had a vasectomy, I've not yet bothered to try and see if that changes their mind in the heat of the moment, but if it becomes more of a problem, I guess I will ty and see if that helps. Would be a polite thing to offer afterwards anyway I think,

Not sure I'm going to bother writing a report about my KI visit yesterday (was great), but so far this trip I've tipped all girls from the bars, and all tips have been strictly voluntary. Only two days so far though, so not sure if the rest of my week will be like that.